Hope to see you analyse Flow-vis paints from some of the cars seen at testing. Be nice to get an idea on how to read the patterns created.

@monger6726

2 жыл бұрын

@alexiss man this was quite a reply, a little out of place in a car channel.

@Superstocker669

2 жыл бұрын

@@monger6726 Its a bot, dont reply

@monger6726

2 жыл бұрын

@@Superstocker669 I know man I was attempting to make a joke.

@Superstocker669

2 жыл бұрын

@@monger6726 👍

@topiasr628

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Would love to know more about flow-vis and those cages you see them running!

Hi Kyle, will you do a video discussing the porpoising issue that we are seeing on some of the cars, and how the teams would approach fixing this issue?

@Tommmmmmmmmmmm

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was also going to comment. Would be very interesting to hear potential solutions to it from Kyle.

@raytrevor1

2 жыл бұрын

And do IndyCars suffer from it? And if not - why not?

@jubuttib

2 жыл бұрын

@@raytrevor1 At a guess: Longer experience with the platform in action, and overall less extreme aero? Porpoising can definitely be tamed, Group C and GTP managed to do it while still utilizing massive Venturis under the body, but they will need a bit of track time.

@davidcarroll5701

2 жыл бұрын

@@raytrevor1 I think its because all indycars are the same so they can set the ride height

@cryptominingsauce4043

2 жыл бұрын

+1 on this. Also. What strategies can F1 teams deploy to cure the bouncing down straights which is currently occurring on most of the cars? Do they try and stall the floor or play with the suspension? Can F1 learn anything from IndyCar?

This channel is so underrated, and as for an aeronautical engineering student, a lot of the things you tell isn't commonly known to us

@Lion-wd1px

2 жыл бұрын

good luck studying bud

@amjan

2 жыл бұрын

Who underrates this channel, huh?? Nobody. Everybody thinks it's great.

@lekkerreplekkertastic

2 жыл бұрын

@@amjan I agree. This channel is definitely not for everybody. But the people who like it, value it a lot.

Good to know I wasn't completely crazy about a single element Beam Wing being ok! Which car from testing is your favourite so far?

@madness_za_4671

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the Redbull the car and areo design is just facinating

@ShotgunAU

2 жыл бұрын

Ferrari, but for looks only :)

@RCmaniac667

2 жыл бұрын

Haas looks kinda promising, very advanced for their standards

@ChrispyNut

2 жыл бұрын

Easily the Alfa, doesn't have all the annoying branding and shizz. I wish I was kidding more than I am.

@inikous58

2 жыл бұрын

the real question is which car impressed YOU the most! (aerodynamically speaking)

I have been refreshing your page since minute 1 of testing, its finally here! :)

Well, that was noticeably more measured and circumspect than the "OMG, Newey's done it again, the aero magician's blown away everyone else" kinda hyperbole I've seen from a couple/few others. :-D

awesome video. love the explanations from someone who actually knows aero. as opposed to other channels who repeatedly says 'improves air flow' or 'cleans air flow' cause they have no idea what they're talking about. good stuff.

@dexter_ay

2 жыл бұрын

lmao, true af

this guy is definitely using way more thinking noodle than my smooth brain can comprehend. genius

Hey Kyle. Just a thought, could you please enable cursor in what ever program you're using to capture and draw on the screen. I'm often having trouble seeing the things you are drawing on the screen since I have deuteranomaly and protanomaly. Loving your analysis on the cars so far!

@blackeyes9870

2 жыл бұрын

@alexiss damn really thats crazy

@suestoons

2 жыл бұрын

@alexiss Jeez you're annoying. I've clicked open 3 comment's replies and you're posting this BS on all of them so far. Have reported once, hope you're gone soon.

@Matthijs3476

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

Thanks for the coverage again! Some amazing work went into this by the looks of things.

10 months later and its one of the most successful cars history 🤙🏽

I've been following F1 since 2005 but your videos are the first set of videos where I can attempt to understand the aero philosophy of these cars in some actual detail, as opposed to gut feelings about what they may or may not be doing. Appreciate your experience and ability to hypothesize some theories (at the risk of being wrong) to give us some detailed insights into understanding what the engineers are trying to achieve. Great stuff.

Hi Kyle, Absolutely loving this series of videos. So many times over the years you see people trying to explain aero but without the real inside knowledge to be accurate in their assessments or the humility to say that it really is difficult, if not impossible, to accurately say what is actually happening. Bravo. You asked for ideas for future videos. Well, while at the moment you will be busy with all the car launches, I think it would be great if you could cover some of the more unsual and exotic cars and concepts of old and explain how you think they were working. Examples being Brawns front wing and double diffusor, the Mclaren with the U shaped pods, The Tyrell with boomrang wing, the high rake Red Bulls and their exhaust blown diffusors. Anyway, you get the idea. Thanks for the videos they are truly excellent.

18:30, they legit just implemented this in Hungary gp 2023. Well spotted

You’re channel is so awesome for helping us understand

Hey Kyle, great video as always. Could you please make a video discussing the porpoising, like what causes it and possible solutions?

Great and illuminating analysis!👌

This was absolutely fabulous! Thanks so much. It sure seems they have a lot of areas to develop over the season. Keep up the great work sir!!

This is fascinating stuff Kyle! Thanks for all these videos. So much detail!

Awesome video as always 👏 I'll be the first to admit I don't always understand fully the technical stuff, but your intelligence and enthusiasm in shining a light on the 'Dark Arts' of aerodynamics is incredible, just a joy to watch 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Thank you Kyle- there is nothing else out there for us fans right now that is even remotely comparable to your analysis. Absolutely outstanding 👏

Wonderful video-for a F1 fan it’s fascinating watching an analysis from by an actual F1 aerodynamicist

YES!!! I was checking YT every 2 hours for a past 2 days waiting for this video! Thank you!

Have been loving your analyses this season, feels like I'm learning more about aero even though I've been following the technical side of F1 for over a decade! I would love to see your analyses of the images from the wet testing on day 3, there are some inverted colors photos that really show the airflow directions and spread coming off the cars, they look like they could give you some information about the cars' flow field directions and help inform us plebes! Thanks Kyle!

Love your content. Another great video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us fans, very interesting.

As a massive car nerd and relatively new F1 fan I’m so happy I stumbled upon your videos recently, you’ve really helped me better understand the engineering side of the new regs. You’ve done a great job of simplifying everything with each of the cars while not dumbing it down too much. Keep it up! I’m curious though what you as an aerodynamicist think about the porpoising effect that has apparently caught the teams completely by surprise and what different solutions we might see from each of them. I know that’s probably extremely hard to do without seeing their wind tunnel, CFDs and any other data, (which is probably why you haven’t made a video on it) but I’d highly value even small and obvious bits of analysis. Thanks!

Really great analysis; appreciate your work

Thank you for your great work! Love it!

Looking at these shots now, I have some thoughts on the front suspension geometry. I think the lower whishbone is angled back slightly to position both the front and rear legs, as well as the steering rod, purely for aerodynamics. They look like very well aligned with the front of the floor, the start of the underbody tunnels. But at that angle the mechanical geometry would create some dive during braking. So to counteract that, they had to put the upper whishbone at an extreme anti-dive angle . Which would also explain why the upper whishbone shrouding looks quite skinny, they just want to minimize its aero impact. Would all make sense to me, and is an interesting solution.

Hey KYLE !!!! Thank you 🙏🏼 I been wanting a tech channel ! Love watching all Scarbs videos and now I have yours thank you keep up the content

Wow, cool video Kyle. Could you maybe do a video about the flow vis on the new cars? To maybe compare some previous investigations from you to a new investigation including the flow vis. I am quite interested in how teams read the airflow from just paint.

Great work as always

Finally, a technical F1 channel with a credible aero engineer who is not afraid to get technical. Subscribed!!!!!!

Great vid’s mate glad to of found you at this point in F1 you really are helping keep it up I can’t give you enough thumbs up 👍👍👍

What I would love to see, would be a video on wich car may be the best aerodynamicly this season, after the first race. Meaning which is the best on the straights, on slow tight circuits or fast flowing onces. Which car is the worst to follow(has the most dirty air coming of) etc.

@magicalthings7031

2 жыл бұрын

This would be great! Kyle might need a couple of races to do it tho

So glad i found this chanel. So insightfull and interesting!

Excellent video as usual, thank you!

Finally! I’ve been looking forward to this one!

Amazing, thank you!

Very interesting one! I discovered your channel on the first video you made about the new F1 regulation. You are explaining everything very clearly, thank you! I have just seen a picture of the Haas during testing, they are quite a few interesting things going on on this car, the fin on the top of the engine cover, the front of the floor and the endplate of the front wing. If you have time, it will be interesting to do a video on their real car. Thanks.

Great analysis!

I really love your vids. Very clear!

As always, the best analysis.

Awesome analysis! :D That was realy interesting!

I love your analysis.... keep it up

Another perfect piece. Thanks!

outstanding - i have been looking forward for your view on this one... 👍

This is beyond what my Brain can handle but i love it! Thank you very much!

YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. thanks man, appreciate u!

Are you able to make a video giving some Insight on the problem of porpoising that most teams seem to have

Finally, I have been waiting for this, THANX Kyle 😀

Very interesting! Learned a lot. Tnx.

Thank you for this crazy analysis

Finally, we've been waiting for this.

Thanks a lot for making these video's, I'm a litte Aero head my self (un schooled) and I want to learn from this. So keep up the good work!

Outstanding Kyle.

I've been waiting for this video for days.

love your work man, you are the best

I love your insight. Thanks

I'd love to see you cover pourpousing and what solutions there are

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!

Great analysis)!!!! Thanks for ur work!!!! so interesting !!!

Shared :) Awesome work Kyle

Been waiting for this video!

Most anticipated video on f1

Nice video, as always. You should cover The Porpoising of the cars.

Do Mercedes and RedBull both use NX? - Great Video again. Saves me a lot of time watching the Analysis of the cars here instead of the more general Analysis of the cars on other KZread Channels. Love it!

I was looking forward to this!! Thank you! Are you going to analyze Alpine car?

Given all the new designs, can we get a general "Flow Viz analysis" review on how to read the airflow tracings? It will be difficult to do one specific racecar design given limited images but we are going to see a lot of Flow Viz being used during the pre-season and in the practice sessions at the first several races. Thanks!

Was waiting for this

Is it just me, or this... Kyle is enjoying this

Hey you've probably already gotten this question but a video on porpoising and how teams will solve/deal with it would great. Plus I imagine it would get into a large discussion on ground effects as a whole.

A cool idea for a video is to get all the photos you can get of flow vis thru out the testing running and just discuss them

This sort of was the one I was waiting for, thank you!

Its pretty cool to see the teams balance between downforce recovery and dirty air recovery

Mr Newey be making real miracles

The beam wing theory is not crasy, I desigbed the aero kit of a Formula Student car and noticed this exact effect when trying to design a completely crasy diffuser. This is really innovative from RedBull and I actually think other teams will explore this design. I think it is quite beneficial!

I’m guessing you saw the wet running photos that show floor sealing vortex, especially on the Mclaren. The race have done a good video on this looking at an polar inversion on the images an discussing it’s relevance to reducing porpoising due to being able to run a higher ride height but keep the underfloor sealed. Would love to her your breakdown/analysis of this. Especially in relation to how powerful this may be and how mclaren are achieving this apparent stronger vortex compared to the other teams.

Love these videos, one thing I think would help make things a litter easier to understand is to label the view on some of the legality box diagrams. E.G. @22:26 Have a caption saying "top down" or maybe a 3d compass?

Kyle- great insights as usual. As the drivers love to ride the kerbs do you think we will see a lot more damage to these lovely wavy floors this season?

Nice

I would say the double bargeboards are used to get much downforce in corners but not on the straights. The air between the bargeboard is used to create a vertex under the floor, to seal it from the outside. This creates much downforce. But you only need the downforce in the corners. Many teams dl have bouncing problems on the straights on the testdrive in barcelona. Because on higher speed the downforce goes up and it pushes the car near to the ground. The downforce increases when the car is near to the ground. This leads to touching the ground and the aerodynamic flow gets lost. So the Redbull only creates this vortex when the front wheels are turning into a corner. If my theory is right. Redbull should not have problems with the bouncing problems like the other teams have right now.

Hi Kyle, love your videos! Could you do a video on the F-duct? All the videos I've watched give a pretty high level overview eg. air intake on nose, channeled to rear wing which stalls the rear wing, but I've never understood how that stall was achieved. Would be great to see an in-depth explanation

Hey Kyle, amazing videos! With the new introduced updates on the red bull car the word coanda effect came a few times acros my screen. Could you explain this coanda effect and how it relates to Bernoulli's equation?

Hey Kyle very interesting video! One question: could you use exhaust to stop propursing, by diverting exhaust into the tunnel at high speed?

@kyle.engineers Just stumbled across this video. It’s funny, iv got the same print f1 car you have it the background. It was a gift from someone at Mercedes’ when I worked with them.

Can we have a video about porpoising? There are plenty that talks about the subject but the solutions aren't as much talked, I'd like to hear your opinion about it.

Hi kyle, what is the benefit of creating vortices to send into the underfloor?

Would be appreciate if you could analyze the porpoising problem regards to aerodinamic, suspension setup, tyre pressure, etc...

Would be cool if you could grab these pictures and put them into a 3d model with animations, to help us see what the air is doing, idk how hard that is, but it would certainly upgrade the video

Please share about the porpoise effect we are seeing its (dis)advantages and how teams can solve..

Is there anyway you can show us... 1) how they use the wind tunnel to develop these parts 2) Which parts help in cornering at low speeds vs high speeds vs reducing drag on the straights... I think we can tell how the air helps in cooling Thank you I know nothing about this stuff and your videos are super helpful

I trust this analysis the most because he approaches everything as a scientist would. Not, “this winglet does….XYZ, and that flap does…..VXY”. But more of, “what this could be doing is….” I’ve always had a hard time taking others seriously, because if they had all the knowledge they act like, they would be aerodynamicists and not artists, or F1 commentators, etc.

Please do a video on this "porpoising". Please include your take on Garry Andersons opinion on the Mclaren vs the rest, or something similar. Very interested in this. Please include what solutions other than a strong vortex (like Mclaren sealing the floor with a strong vortex) teams may be able to utilise. I'm assuming it is a left of field situation, I'm not sure you've come across before but if you have an in depth view it would be a great insight on a popular topic.

I suspect the aim with those bargeboards is to essentially eat the tire wake and squirt it out in a more useful direction. They've gone to a fair bit of trouble to get it close to the inside corner of the front tire and I don't think they would need two boards to achieve the desired outwash considering how far forwards they are. I could be getting this wrong because I haven't read the rules because of how they're written, but I wanna say they the area in which your bargeboards are allowed to go starts at the front of the sidepods and extends forwards from there. The channel like intake seems to be a way for the sidepod to start atr the front of legality but not increase the upper surface of the sidepod as I recall that they tend to generate lift.

Great analysis as always... One question though: I heard that the front sidepod panel is made of a particular material (very rough) that would prevent early flow separation, at the cost of skin drag obviously. Might it be possible, or not? Thanks a lot!

You should make a vid for your Constructor's champ predictions based on the Car designs!

ADRIAN NEWEY IS A GENIUS

Any potential fixes to porpoising without sacrificing downforce. Would a return of active suspension be good for this?

Thanks! Will you do the 'new' Haas as well? It's pretty much all different to the renders

@samkwant4050

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah even the livery is changed completely /s