I remember when you started this channel, now look at you getting called to review rogues new bench, nice work man!

@bro_nah___1

Жыл бұрын

FACTS!!!!

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that man! I honestly couldn't' believe it when it was offered! I'm beyond grateful for all the opportunities that have come my way and obviously wouldn't be where I am today without the support of people like you/the community!

Great review, answered my questions.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

Matt thanks again for the great review

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching it!

Sick lighting and camera shots man, you’ve definitely upgraded from your reviews back in the day looking professional af my dude

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thank you man! Just trying to improve a little more with each video! I appreciate ya watching!

I ordered this as soon as it went live. Still waiting for day it shows "picked" in their tracking system. They're building them as we speak, which is pretty cool in itself. My LP-2 replacement took a couple months for them to build and ship.

Rogue Please make this pad available for the 3.0 so I can take that hard foam off and start using my bench again

Just ordered one, looking forward to checking it out. The 7 gauge is what sold me. As a hobbyist fabricator as well, 7 gauge will make this bench bomber, regardless of the weight out on it. Heavy, yes, but I don’t care about that. Expensive, yes, but also a key part of any gym, regardless of your discipline, be it bodybuilding, powerlifting, etc. Thanks for the review.

"CAN'T WAIT!!" - in Bart Scott voice

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Haha!

Just subscribed, great video Matt! How difficult is it to pick up & wheel around the manta ray? I want to order it but my fiancé is concerned she won’t be able to pick it up and move it around in our home gym.

@MattPendergraph

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the sub! I apologize that I'm just now seeing this (took a bit of time away from KZread) I personally find it manageable given it's INSANELY heavy size, but unfortunately someone smaller with less strength might struggle a bit IMO

Missed not having you at home gym con buddy. Hopefully next year That is a sexy looking bench 👌

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Keith! Hated that I couldn't swing it this year! Looks like everyone who attended had a great time!

That was a fun review, happy you have had the opportunity to work with Rogue on this bench. Happy lifting!

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I was beyond excited to have been given the chance to provide feedback and review it! Glad to hear you enjoyed it! I spent SO MUCH time on this one and STILL didn't even touch on everything I could have (guess that leaves it open for a follow up video! lol).

Glad i held out. My red arriving Tuesday

ordered mine less than 30 secs after i received the launch notification email! really digging your reviews and your content in general, Matt!

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Haha! Dude was READY!! Thanks man! Appreciate the support!

Been waiting for this. Showtime 🎉

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

That's what I like to hear! Hope you enjoy!

@marvellstarks2434

Жыл бұрын

I wanted and still want this Bench so bad. But if I can't get it in red that's a deal breaker for me. All black is boring and I don't like playing it safe with my colors in my gym

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@marvellstarks2434 I figured that would be a contingency for a lot of people! Hopefully they make it happen, but only time will tell I suppose.

So good!

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thanks guy!

Thanks for the review. Would have liked to hear more about the areas it falls short, other than the mention of the plastic handle as a missed opportunity. For example, the inability to flip the leg catch over for Nordic work, as advertised on the much cheaper Rep Blackwing. I don't have good experiences with Rep benches, but it seems like a major oversight on the Manta Ray if the only necessary change to make Nordic's a possibility would be an additional hole on the opposite side of the catch post.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

You can definitely flip over the leg catch and perform the Nordic Curls BTW, you just can't technically lock it into position due to the pop-pin hole is only on one side (at least that's how it is on my review model). As far as the points I make in my video...the plastic handle, lack of color options, and high price-point are what personally stood out to me and my specific interests. I tried to cover as much ground as possible without being too long-winded and drawn out, but the end of the day it's virtually impossible touch on everything only because everyone's interests/curiosities are going to be different which is the main reason I encourage people asking questions in this comment section. I'll probably end up making a follow up/use-style video in the future as well as comparing it to other company offerings if their is enough interest in it. I appreciate the feedback, thanks for watching!

@billchurch4460

Жыл бұрын

You can do Nordic curls without having the foot catch secured. Based upon my experience, the foot catch isn't going anywhere. That''s the case on my AB-3, at least, and I suspect the same holds true with this bench. If you want to secure the foot catch, you would need to drill a hole. Having said that, I agree that it should come with a hole on each side.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@billchurch4460 You're exactly correct! You CAN perform the curls, you just can't technically lock it into position due to the hole is only on one side (at least that's how it is on my review model)

Excellent review. I would still choose the REP Blackwing bench over this as it's the best bang for the value.

@MattPendergraph

Күн бұрын

Thank you! Yeah, I'd say the Blackwing makes the most sense for the majority of people

About time! 🙌

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

You don't even know the half of it....lol

Really hope rogue develops a leg ext Curl or a more robust Pec fly attachment. Better build but similar to the powertec attachments

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Would be sweet for sure!

While you have a nice gym and camera skills, I don't really feel like I came out of this video knowing if this bench is for me. Considering you've had this bench for months I'm not hearing much insights on what it's like to use regularly or what kind of quirks to expect that only someone who has used it intimately would be able to provide. It was nice to get some great shots of the bench but I would like a bit more thoughts on what's good, what's bad, and what can been improved of to be aware of that's not as obvious. Thanks for the video!

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

I approached this review based on the assumption that the majority of people watching has some prior experience with basic ladder-style benches, especially if they are even remotely considering purchasing one at such a high price point. I was also hoping that by pairing multiple shots/angles of the bench with my own personal thoughts along the way would paint a nice overall picture and give my audience an idea as to what to expect out of the bench. At the end of the day, the Manta Ray is pretty straight forward ladder-style bench, just at much more premium/over-built level (not too many bells and whistles here beyond what I focus on in the video). As always, I'm happy to answer any specific questions you have, just let me know. Thanks for watching.

@Pler1978

10 ай бұрын

​@@MattPendergraph.your review was great. If you had made it a 30 min he would have complained how it was too long and hes too important and doesnt have the time. One of the best reviewers.

@MattPendergraph

10 ай бұрын

@@Pler1978 Thank you! I appreciate that! I realize I'll never be able to please everybody but I always do my best to cover what I feel is most important within a decent amount of time and have no issues following up on anything I may have overlooked! Just got to ask! lol Thanks again!

@shanedm3396

2 ай бұрын

@@Pler1978I also think Matt’s review was more than adequate. Off how that guy has disappeared, given all his simmering questions.

I love the names Rogue gives to their products. So the question is, do you get to keep it?

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

I sure hope so! lol This video has been in the making for MONTHS now!

@carps_gym

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if you know about making videos reviews he has probably spend double or triple what it cost in time filming, equipment, editing, and testing the bench so They definitely get their moneys worth with the basically free advertising.

@azuwhr

Жыл бұрын

@@carps_gym yeah I have reviewed so many rogue items they should give me a free bench. Lol.

@carps_gym

Жыл бұрын

@@azuwhr probably so

@carps_gym

Жыл бұрын

@@azuwhr yeah and getting a rogue affiliate is no cake walk either. But if you get denied 4 times in a row just keep after it! 5 times the charm lol

Just when we thought AB's couldn't get any heavier. 3x4 x 7 gauge. Lawd have mercy. Makes me want to compensate for something just looking at it.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Haha! Yeah, Rogue didn't hold anything back with this one!

What are the chances that Rogue uses the roller pad attachment tube for some other attachment? Wouldn't it be cool if Rogue developed that part of the bench for a leg extension/curl attachment and for your benefit PenderBear, calf raise attachment. 😂

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

I feel like it could be a definite possibility given how beefed up it is!.....and yes, a calf raise attachment is CLEARLY a must! 🤦‍♂😂

@lsmjake

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph is the attachment tube the same size as other bench attachment tubes... for example, is it possible to use another company's leg ext/curl attachment in place of the roller pad?

@jackviviano7231

Жыл бұрын

I've suggested that to Rogue for the AB-3 many years ago since I have that since 2017. They never listened

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@jackviviano7231 With the receiver on the Manta being much more robust/secure than the AB-3, I'm hoping that Rogue actually takes advantage of it this time around. It seems too obvious NOT to take advantage of it IMO.

Does it have a dip or pull-up attachment?

@MattPendergraph

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately not

HI MATT CAN YOU REAVIEW THE CAR JACK DEAD.LIFT ATTACHMENT or chest supported row or the horizontal row machine from fortis equipment ? ?

@MattPendergraph

9 ай бұрын

I would love to! Have them reach out if you have contact with them!

@borgarknappur1997

9 ай бұрын

@@MattPendergraph sorry i don't have any contact with fortis equipment

Needs a leg curl/extension attachment and I will buy it

@MattPendergraph

3 ай бұрын

I agree! It's certainly beefed up enough to accept one!

Long shot, but any chance you know if the pad's hole drill pattern is the same as the Straydog Alpha's? Asking just in the slim chance that they sell the pad separate, then I could get it installed on my SD Alpha bench..

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

I honestly couldn't tell ya man, sorry 😬. Probably wouldn't be terribly difficult to retrofit it though if you had to. That is of course if Rogue decides to sell the pad separately.

@LL-tz8lo

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph I'm so ready for this bench! Are you asking rogue to provide you an affiliate coupon code to get your viewers a small discount?

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@LL-tz8lo I wish! Lol. Unfortunately I've NEVER known Rogue to supply anyone with any sort of discount codes. All I can do is ask viewers to use my Rogue affiliate link if they find the video helpful and decide to make a purchase as it really does help to fund my content creation!

whats the width of the stand off post in the back? im curious if this bench will work with the rogue bench prop

@MattPendergraph

11 ай бұрын

Great question! It's identical to their 3.0, therefore it should fit the bench prop without issue.

@_itsvini

11 ай бұрын

@@MattPendergraph thanks! rogue told me it wouldnt fit because its a 3x4 rather than a 3x3 steel frame but it looks identical for that section in your video

@MattPendergraph

11 ай бұрын

@@_itsvini 😂 not surprised 🤦‍♂️. Consider using my affiliate link if you do end up making a purchase! I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks for watching and reach out if you have any other questions!

I agree about this should be replacing the AB-3. I sold my AB-3 and ordered the Rep Fitness Black Wing. My FB-5000 is providing my bench needs right now while I wait.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

I got a chance to play around with the new Black Wing at the Arnold and was really impressed! While I also have REP's original Zero-Gap, and it's technically fine, the new Black Wing improves upon it in just about every way! You'll be satisfied for sure! Thanks for watching BTW!

@lsmjake

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph thoughts on Blackwing versus the Manta Ray? Big price difference...

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@lsmjake Seriously! Without having actually used the Black Wing beyond just playing around with it at the Arnold, I can't definitively speak much towards it. I can say that I felt like everything about it seemed much nicer and more thought out in comparison to the original Zero-Gap! Given that REP has been absolutely crushing it in the adjustable bench department, I think the Manta Ray will be SOLID option to consider if you're in the market!

@markhalstead2386

Жыл бұрын

@@lsmjake The Rogue Manta Ray will have better finishing, but the Rep Fitness Black Wing will be 95% of the Rogue for 60% of the price.

Hi Matt. How does the Blackwing compare to the Rogue Manta Ray? I'm asking because I have a red Blackwing in the Box with wide pad which I can return If the Manta Ray is the superior bench. I also want to state that decline is very important to me so if the decline option is better on the Rogue, that would be a big selling point for me.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

11 ай бұрын

Bueller?

@lsmjake

11 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 from a reply of his in the comments from about 2 months ago... "Without having actually used the Black Wing beyond just playing around with it at the Arnold, I can't definitively speak much towards it. I can say that I felt like everything about it seemed much nicer and more thought out in comparison to the original Zero-Gap! Given that REP has been absolutely crushing it in the adjustable bench department, I think the Blackwing will be SOLID option to consider if you're in the market!... The Rogue Manta Ray will have better finishing, but the Rep Fitness Black Wing will be 95% of the Rogue for 60% of the price."

@MattPendergraph

9 ай бұрын

Appreciate that!

@MattPendergraph

9 ай бұрын

Haha! Sorry I'm just now seeing this! @lsmjake nailed it though man!

Though there does not seem to be a hole for it, can you turn the “foot catch” upside down and do Nordic declines with it?

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

While it'll technically fit, it obviously doesn't latch in due to the hole only being on the one side (at least that's how it is on the review unit I was sent) That being said, someone could easily drill a second hole on the opposite side and make it work if they really wanted to 🤷‍♂️.

Is the Manta Ray's pad more of a firmer, or softer pad? I've owned their Adjustable 2.0 for quite a few years now and that pad is definitely more firm and dense which is nice to bench on.

@MattPendergraph

10 ай бұрын

Oh yes! It's a very firm pad! If that's your preference, then you'll have zero complaints with this one! lol

@DeepVoicedOne

10 ай бұрын

@@MattPendergraph Exactly what I'm looking for, good to hear they didn't change firmness on it from the previous versions! Thanks Matt, this ones on my list to get 👌

@MattPendergraph

10 ай бұрын

@@DeepVoicedOne No problem, happy to help! Keep my Rogue affiliate link in mind if you do end up purchasing! Appreciate you watching!

@DeepVoicedOne

10 ай бұрын

@@MattPendergraph No doubt and thanks again.

@DeepVoicedOne

10 ай бұрын

@@MattPendergraph I went ahead and purchased the bench along with the leg hold and used the affiliate link, the Adjustable 2.0's gonna find a new home soon. Thanks again Matt and keep cranking out the honest reviews 👌

Nice review Matt. As we spoke about, Rogue really needed to offer customization in order to compete with folks like REP, PRIME, LEGEND, EliteFTS etc. All of these companies offer color options which at this price point should have been a no brainer. The build on this looks insane but if I compare this to my Rogue 3.0 in red with stainless ladder the build of the Manta just doesn’t seem enough for the extra $$$ when one considers the 3.0 is an absolute tank and aesthetically, gorgeous. Lastly, Rogue needs to be a bit careful on possibly offering color options ( after initial release ). If I’m a buyer of an $1100.00 bench with only black offered and a month later color options are available…I’m not a happy customer. Thanks again for your work 👏👏

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! You absolutely nailed it my friend! All valid points/considerations!

@Pler1978

10 ай бұрын

Lol...I think the owner knows what hes doing...

That shiiii beefy son , The Manta Rey got me saying hey can you come out and play 😂

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

🤣😂! Too funny man!

THE HYPE IS OVER!! Just what we’ve been waiting for!!! 😎🔥🤟

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

SO much time invested into this one! lol

Awesome video as always, any commentary on getting onto the bench without a handle at the rollers and using it in the decline position? Maybe a Reel or something, as that is the only reason to considering upgrading from my Rogue Adjustable 2.0 Bench.... p.s. I can't believe it's 15lbs heavier than the heaviest bench I've used 😆

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Spent a good amount of time on this one! Not gonna lie, it can be a struggle (especially the higher the incline!) but yeah man, I can certainly make a dedicated reel showing off how I get on/off the bench, great suggestion! Thanks for watching!

Im happy with my AB4100. This is sweet, and I'll continue to watch everything you put out. But unlike you and Gluck 1 bench is enough for me right now 😂

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Haha! One bench is probably PLENTY for most everyone! lol

Subbed

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Neat

Not too crazy about using plastic on the ladder adjustment mechanism. May get all scratched and dented in time. Should be steel.

@MattPendergraph

9 ай бұрын

So far so good, but I know what you mean! Fingers crossed they hold up!

Matt pulled some punches on this one

Matt, Excellent Review as Always!!! I totally agree on the following: 1) Dislike of the “plastic” handle which I think Rogue need to change this to a stainless steel knurled handle for this Premium price bench 2) The Foot Catch should be included in the price as I am sure those who will buy this bench will surely need the “Decline” in their daily workout 3) Colour Options: I think Rogue can easily offer this option but no idea why they didn’t. I think it would also be good if Rogue is considering to offer a 316 All Stainless option. Overall its a great bench with 7 gauge steel and its a tank!

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it Adrian! Dude, I couldn't even begin to imagine the price tag on an all-stainless version of this bad boy! lol. I'm a sucker for the raw/grungy steel look myself (I believe Rogue calls it their "satin finish") and would love to see that option available on this hardcore of a bench!

Wondering if the lead time is still 8 to 12 weeks...

@MattPendergraph

9 ай бұрын

I honestly don't know. I want to say the pads were the biggest hold up originally but they may have worked all the kinks out by now.

Considering they offer a knurled stainless steel handle on the Monster Utility Bench, I just don’t understand how this isn’t an option on a premium bench. Makes ZERO sense

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Yep, incorporating knurled handles has basically become the new "standard" nowadays

@andrewstearns9276

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph Well except on a Rogue Bench that is $1000+ 😂

Is the leg press gone?:(

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes! I Got rid of it a few days after publishing the video. I wasn't a fan plus it took up ENTIRELY too much space!

@kozmo7

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph which leg press was it that you had? I’m having trouble remembering.. what did you not like about it? Thanks man

Hey Matt, after using the manta ray, I would still buy the ab3. I think it’s a better bench. Manta ray is heavy duty and very nice but I think the ab3 is better overall. The gap is a non issue and the aesthetic, weight, sturdiness/stability are all in the ab3(nautilus) favor. I would encourage you to test an ab3 if you haven’t. While not using as much steel, I think the way it’s welded together and designed just creates more stability in use.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

So while I don't own an AB-3, I have used one a few times in the past. It's certainly not a bad bench (and if you love it then that's perfectly fine! You do you man) to me it just feels incredibly dated compared to other/newer designs on the market, not to mention the fact that it utilizes a pop-pin style system (I absolutely HATE pop-pin adjustment systems! 😂)

@jackviviano7231

Жыл бұрын

Sure, the AB-3 is based on the highest rated utility bench of all time the Nebula 1080/awesome bench. And yes the way the two steel brackets hold it flat is very stable. For me it has never failed in 6 years and the quality is second to none. I do think the pad gap of the Manta Ray is the ONE big improvement. But thats the ab-3 only downside. The Pop pin is actually advantage over the ladder in my book as it NEVER goes out of position or has degraded. I think they both seem like great benches but I doubt anyone owning an AB-3 would replace it.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@jackviviano7231 Appreciate your insight! I'm sure that's why Rogue has kept it around for all these years. Obviously it'll ultimately come down to personal wants/needs and budget of course. In the grand scheme of it all I don't think anybody can go wrong with purchasing a bench from Rogue!

@centralparkpiper

10 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 I want the ab3! I guess that’s more than nobody. I’ve actually now used both the Ab3 and the manta ray. Hands down without question the ab-3 is 100 percent superior, in my opinion of course. Remember, the wheel is also dated and still does the job better than any other option. I find the ab3 more stable and solid, likely because it is welded and comes as a single unit. Manta ray is still good, but still doesn’t quite overtake the wheel.

If they add leg curl and extension attachments I will replace my 3.0

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Could be an absolute game changer for a lot of people, not to mention help further justify the higher price tag!

@jeffcahn3625

Жыл бұрын

Rep had basically confirmed they are doing this on the Blackwing. Would love Rogue to say the same thing. Leaning Rep for now….

Good info. Solid review. But at $1400 shipped I think I would just rather have 2 AB 3.0s. I would potentially consider it in the future if they came out with more color ways, but at this point my AB 3.0 is still looking pretty good it’s already a tank.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Thank ya Mr. Carp! While the Manta is fantastic bench, I believe most people won't be able to justify the cost and simply don't need this much bench and will be more than satisfied with Rogue's 3.0 line!

Don't think this one can be called FID bench as the back pad does not decline. With the help of leg rollers, you can do decline work, but the transition from incline to decline is not as smooth as the traditional FID bench. You have to move the bench 180 degree to do decline. Not that convenient considering it weighs over 140 lbs.

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I definitely agree with you! While this method of decline isn't the most ideal to set up in comparison to just dropping the back pad into a decline, it's just one of those things that Rogue and a few other companies have been utilized for several years now. As someone who RARELY (if ever, lol) decline presses, I personally prefer this style over the traditional because of the vertical support post at the head of the bench which allows it be stored upright without having to depend on the back pad for support and it adds to the overall stability while in the flat position.

@sagaking9736

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph I agree the storage of traditional FID is difficult. I was expecting this bench to be the ultimate FID bench that is sturdy in every position (even decline) and can be stored vertically, but it just turns out to be a ladder-style AB-3.

Looks like it should be in a professional upscale gym with a $200 membership per month price tag.....

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

I mean....you're not wrong 🤷‍♂ lol. That's personally how I view it as well. I'm sure that won't and shouldn't stop anyone from purchasing it if it fits their needs and budget.

@NoFate247

Жыл бұрын

@@MattPendergraph going to screen shot this and prove to my wife I am finally right once in my life

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

@@NoFate247 Haha!

must be rich to own one

How do you even decline? Does it come with a ladder?

@MattPendergraph

Жыл бұрын

You have to ask for assistance getting up and down, lol. Seriously though, it can be somewhat of a challenge (especially the higher the incline) since you have to basically climb up the bench to get into position.

@dirtdog5045

Жыл бұрын

When I do decline sit-ups at 60° I use my pull-up bar on my rack to swing myself on top. I'm 6'2", so for decline bench, it's a non-issue. I currently have the ab5000, but I should be receiving my Manta in 2 to 3 months lol