Felt weight was a good addition

14:20 Winnie made it to the big leagues 👏🏽

@mantequillas1278

9 ай бұрын

She's in there twice, same clip though.

@kumbazzz

9 ай бұрын

Team Winnie

I actually used the Rogue Manta Ray today at the gym I go to. I have to admit that it's the best adjustable bench I ever used. It was as stable as could be and just felt really good to bench press on. If I were in the market for an adjustable bench, and I had enough money to spend, this would be the bench I would get, hands down. As a side night I'm 61 years old, lifetime lifter, I had no problems moving this bench around in the gym.

@kahiau4life

3 ай бұрын

You made me buy it! That's what I told my wife as a 60.4 years old and lifetime lifter!

I compared this vs the REP Blackwing when upgrading my bench. Very happy with the Blackwing although it is heavy. It was one of the few times I didn’t pay the premium for the Rogue name for my home gym.

Cool to see the cameo of Winnie from Gluck's Gym in this review.

@johnhernandez4763

9 ай бұрын

I wonder why he chose Winnie instead of his wife 😂

Great review, as always. I have the mata ray bench. The manta ray has zero back pad side to side play. The hinge points need to be tightened correctly to ensure the bench doesn't have any play and at the same time maintaining that the ladder system still moves freely.

love the felt weight section, extremely important I would say for this review because when I saw that 140lb weight I immediately started looking at other benches

Why these companies don’t put a friggin handle on the foot catch is beyond me. Ironmaster has a handle on theirs. Even Titan has a handle on their leg roller attachment for their bench that costs $539

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Great comment. I agree.

great reviews, very in depth and it really shows you think about the small things people will care about with day to day use. great quality videos too. thanks for this content. I hope this channel really blows up they deserve it.

Thanks for the review, ordered one last night.

At a certain price point, you have succeeded in making something useless to even consider as a home gym owner. Thanks, Rogue!

@hitleractually8180

9 ай бұрын

Get your money up, scrub

@Rectify21

9 ай бұрын

@@hitleractually8180get your IQ up, anyone that would pay $1,200 for a bench is a suckerrrrrr

@avinashtyagi2

9 ай бұрын

​@@hitleractually8180Still wouldn't buy, only fools waste money

@furezj

9 ай бұрын

​@@hitleractually8180Not all of us have Nazi money, dude. Chill.

@ozzy8422

9 ай бұрын

Over here in europe it cost 1360 usd. Insane

My home gym is almost uniquely Rogue, but I opted for the REP Blackwing over the Manta Ray. The Manta Ray just did not offer me enough additional value to justify the cost. The Blackwing has been a great bench and I'm happy with it.

@aaronhackett4647

9 ай бұрын

Ditto!

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?

Nice to see some b-roll from Gluck's Gym!

I was stuck between this bench and the blackwing but the price for Rogue killed it for me. Still a really beautiful bench just not for blue collar workers.

@hitleractually8180

9 ай бұрын

Rogue is not a blue collar brand.

@avinashtyagi2

9 ай бұрын

I'm white collar, and still wouldn't waste this much when cheaper high quality benches exist

@mattjw08

9 ай бұрын

In canada the price is similar due to shipping.

@markhalstead2386

9 ай бұрын

I am also White Collar and still would not spend this much on a bench when the Rep Fitness AB-5200 2.0 or the Black Wing are much less money.

@avinashtyagi2

9 ай бұрын

@@mattjw08 They aren't loonie without reason 😉

Did you all just use a clip from another KZread channel to demo the leg roller? What happen? You all cheap out on the leg roller after spending $1100 on the bench? Coop was like, "Screw the leg roller. Glucks Gym has the content we need for free." 😂

Been waiting for this one

For $1,250, 3 month wait time, and one color...

I hope you will review the NEW PRIME bench

I would never get this at that price. I love Rogue products but their shipping costs are too high. $200 for shipping is half the price I just paid for the Iron Master Super Bench Pro V2. The REP 3100 only costs $269 with free shipping. This Rogue Bench isn't 3x better than that. Thanks GGR for the review of this bench and the IronMaster.

@slisyd

Ай бұрын

I bought this and picked up up (in Australia). Shipping was just to much for this bench,.

The AB 3.0 comes with a welded joint now in the middle! Well they just took the original plates and welded them into place so there’s no play. Works awesome!

@BrandonSchwartz1

9 ай бұрын

Did they update product page to show the change?

It's 1430€ (with foot catch) + shipping in Europe. So like 1700€.

Let's hear your review of the rep ab5200 2.0

What’s the lowest decline I can set this Manta rRay up for? I love the fact it’s so stable for higher degrees of decline for ab and core work , but can I set it to a very low decline for dumbells work like the Blackwing? I’m really on the struggle bus between getting the Manta or Blackwing. The felt weight difference really concerns me for others being able to lift and move. The other thing is the stability and the build of the decline / foot catcher. It comes across in other reviews as well the foot catcher with the blackwing is poor and the back brace that attaches to the bench maybe not the best ? Would love here comments to help with my decision ?

On my major issues with the foot attachment for decline on these benches is no handle in the middle

What is a the best foldable compact bench

The "felt weight" concept is so helpful and arguably more important than the weight of the bench itself. Used plenty of benches at a commercial gym which are light enough to be unstable when benching or using for chest supported rows, but their felt weight didn't match up. Big consideration for me is are you based in the US or not. If so, Rep and its free shipping make Blacking> Manta Ray. In the UK, you're paying almost £900 for the Blackwing so the gap in price closes

I like the luggage test but I store my zero gap bench down the side of my functional trainer so have to lift the bench fully off the ground, so for that reason, I’m out.

It makes sense for Rogue to go after University gyms, plenty of opportunity to improve those. My own university (from 20 years ago) had a ton of equipment that was all 3-4 inch spacing for safeties in power racks or those squat rack things with fixed safeties. My son's university also had the same exact equipment and I just worked out with him at their gym last year. I feel like my Rep Fitness set up at home was far better than what his university had with the sole exception of the university having calibrated bumpers and calibrated steel plates which I would never pay for to have in my home gym.

@golfinguru11

9 ай бұрын

Sorinex has a near monopoly on pro/elite D1 gyms. Rogue isn’t touching Sorinex, even if they have individual items like this bench which compete.

@golfinguru11

9 ай бұрын

Sorinex has a near monopoly on pro/elite D1 gyms. Rogue isn’t touching Sorinex, even if they have individual items like this bench which compete.

@golfinguru11

9 ай бұрын

@@path4061 I suppose, but there isn’t much demand for top tier open gyms. 90% of kids aren’t doing anything other than machines/bench press, at least when I was in school 10 years ago.

The front handle - could it be plastic, instead of steel, for the inevitable kicking it accidentally with your toes?

We'll know how truly influential Coop is when "Felt Weight" becomes a standard spec on gym equipment.

I’m surprised this video didn’t mention Eleiko’s adjustable bench at all. That bench is even more expensive without the added features of the leg rollers and the Manta Ray stability platform. It doesn’t even offer as many positions as the Rogue. Are they comparable quality though?

As an owner of the AB 3.0, I was so close to pulling the trigger on the manta ray, but passed because of the exact same reasons Coop discussed at the end.

Good review

I just ordered a Prime Fitness adjustable bench using your link. I’m 5’8” so I need a smaller bench. Hopefully it won’t disappoint.

I emailed Rogue twice asking if the Manta Ray foot catch can be flipped around for nordics (another reviewer showed doing so) and both times Rogue told me doing so is not supported. While it’s easy enough to drill a hole, having to do so after spending $1,300 on a bench is nuts.

@mattjw08

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for noting that. I thought you could.

@billchurch4460

9 ай бұрын

My guess is that it would work fine for Nordic curls even without the hole in the foot catch. I have their AB-3, which has essentially the same foot catch, although the hole is on the opposite side vs the Manta Ray, and it works just fine flipping it over, pulling out the pin and sliding it in. It's not gonna go anywhere. Having said that, I thought Rogue had indicated they would be drilling a hole in both sides of the foot catch. It's kinda disappointing that they didn't.

@hitleractually8180

29 күн бұрын

I tried the Manta Ray for Nordics yesterday and it worked fine? Not a movement I would ever really do, but it works for those who are wondering

Any reviews on some of the concrete weights I’ve been seeing on my feeds lately? Rock weights make a dumbells and another makes plates. You get sent the molds and mix concrete and fill the molds for a lot cheaper than rubber sets you typically see. Thanks

Such a beautiful bench..... but, I'll be sticking with my old X-Mark FID adjustable bench that I've had for 10-years or so 🤷🏿‍♂️😊

Rogue confirmed on their IG that they will be adding color options to this bench.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Great

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

When though? Did they give a date..?

At 14:29 the roller example’s for the Echo GHD and Abram 2.0 GHD bot show REP as the manufacturer in the text and not Rogue.

Everyone in the comments keeps saying 200.00 for shipping. For me, it was 81.00 for shipping.

The price 1700€ in Eu is absolutely out of brain

Do you think Rogue will release a leg curl/extension for this bench? This is the premium bench would love if they build some extras for it like a leg curl/extension.

FYI...DJI now allows you to turn off those lights on your lav. Firmware update came out a while back. 😐

How does this compare to prime?

At that pricepoint, that bench better coach me

What brand of shirt are you wearing?

I'll buy one the first day they paint one red. Black is boring

Price is high, but comparing it to other commercial/university targeted benches it’s not much difference. Williams Strength/Elite FTS, Sorinex, Stray Dog… Coop is the first person I’ve seen who’s actually used this bench and not claimed it was the best bench they’ve ever used.. I was looking at this or WS for my gym.

Great review as usual. I bought the Rogue adjustable 3.0 several months ago and it’s outstanding. The Manta Ray was shown at the time but good God is it overkill (and I thought the 3.0 once assembled was overkill but it’s $400 cheaper and will be an heirloom some day). The bottom handle on both Manta and 3.0 should be stainless steel knurl and they don’t have to machine a new part to implement, they already have it available with the MG-3 handles (I bought a pair to replace handles on a Paramount Total Chest in my garage gym and they are a spectacular upgrade). The other issue I didn’t see you comment on (I may have missed) but this isn’t really a decline practically speaking for use with heavy dumbbells, it’s more of a decline ab bench. Rep’s decline FID is far more functional if you are trying to get in position solo with 80lb + dumbbells for decline DB bench press as your feet are still on the ground vs 3 feet in the air. I had an old FID and it’s just not safe to try to maneuver into place solo when it’s a reverse decline like this.

@hitleractually8180

29 күн бұрын

If you can't get into position with 80lb dumbbells, the weight is just too heavy for you to manage. If it's *really* that big an issue, I offer you Titan rack mounted dumbell holders. Wheel the Manta over to the rack, get into position, urack dumbbell from the holders. Problem solved.

Here we go! Pricey AF adjustable bench. I would just add a plate to the 3.0 bench post if I wanted more stability.

@hitleractually8180

29 күн бұрын

Are you just mad that you can't afford it? Who cares if Rogue priced it $10k? If you can't afford it, just move on and buy the bench within your means. But to be outwardly angry at Rogue because of your monetary shortfalls is just weird. What's really going on here???

I’d love to see a review of the different benches that have come out since your last bench comparison video! I’d also love to see a video comparing barbells for women, (and any other legit equipment for women).

@hitleractually8180

29 күн бұрын

lift like a man or GTFO out of the gym

When is the TruLap adjustable DB review coming? Asking for a friend.

Supposedly the nicer vinyl pad from the manta ray can be be purchased separately and attached to the adjustable bench 3.0 for between 200 and $300 from what I recall in an exchange with a rogue member services person but this was months ago during their expo at the arnold so idk if this option still exists.

@hitleractually8180

29 күн бұрын

Home Gym Discord members have reported trying to buy just the manta pad and getting a resounding NO from Rogue on every attempt. I would speculate Rogue will refust to sell it because it'll cannibalize Manta sales. they want people to have a reason to spend more on the Manta Ray and one of those reasons is the pad (which is incredible, btw!)

They need to make a leg curl/extension attachment for this and I will buy it same day

I have the Rogue Adjustable Bench 3.0, and for the value would never upgrade for hundreds more. It does everything I need...

The felt weight needs to be the inspdutry standard for all benches, not only by awesome people like Coop who KZread reviews, but by the companies out there building them as well…it’s a true deal breaker for some looking for an adjustable bench they can lift easily and move around without stretching and warning up for an hour first. So for me adjustable benches all need to have vertical stable storage and a felt test listing to even be considered these days. New industry standards right here with Coop….

I love seeing winnie in your vids

they set the bench mark

I like that it's heavy.

they should just come out with an adjustable Thompson fat pad and Olympic 2.5s.

is it even for a home gym? it seems commercial gym price

Major Lutie All in one trainer review please

What's the "felt weight" of the AB-4100?

@dbakerhunter84

4 ай бұрын

I would love to know as well

This is too expensive, especially with REPs Blackwing bench for ~$300 less. I'm in the market for an adjustable bench and am leaning hard towards REP's offerings, but It's too bad that all of these high end benches are so freaking heavy. My dream bench would be basically the 14in Blackwing with the zero gap feature removed at a much lighter total weight. The gf can barely deadlift 135#s, let alone move a freaking bench that weight around the garage. Sheesh!

@tonya7699

9 ай бұрын

More like $450 difference. Rogue charges for shipping. 600 vs 1050+

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Stop shacking Matt.

I love this chanel

damn havent watched coop in like 6months. that was a good watch.

This bench seems very much like the bench version of Rogue’s previous multi grip bar. They should have consulted more with customers/reviewers before pulling the trigger. And I still think a press plate should be an option instead of a “wing”. It would add weight but people would be pressing against the bench instead of the floor so it would be impossible for the bench to move. You could even make the bench considerably lighter but if you add that plate, it ain’t going anywhere.

Make a video showing what kind of home gym you could make for $1000 then have an empty room with just this bench 😅😅

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Wack

@dmiller4088

9 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 so cleverly thought out and articulated

@mytrainerdfish9888

7 ай бұрын

😂

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

7 ай бұрын

@@dmiller4088 Nobody wants to see cheap equipment.

Elitefts/Williams Strength Signature bench is a pretty dang good bench! Solid AF

@zacharykennedy5752

6 ай бұрын

There’s not a more solid bench

@hitleractually8180

29 күн бұрын

True....and you can customize it. But it also has a lot less adjustment options for even more money than the Manta

Not worth the cost, imo. Happy with the revisions they made to the Rogue AB 3.1, if you will. Welded joint in the middle, premium pad, etc. Even with the SS option, it's still cheaper than the Manta Ray. I really don't understand the UHMW ladder system either. Feels so unnecessary

$1000 - a price class all it's own

We have the adjustable bench 3.0 and the flat bench with the Thompson pads so I don’t see this one in our future.

As always thanks for the honest review. Rogue makes some really awesome stuff, but for me it is really hard to justify the price. I purchase the BlackWing and am extremely happy with it. It is a heavy bench, but for now the weight isn’t an issue. I use it everyday and move it all over my garage gym during my workouts. Thanks again!!!

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?

I bought the Black Wing due to it being 95% of the Manta Ray at only 60% of the price, which is really closer to 50% after shipping.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Pulling percentages out of your arse.

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?

@markhalstead2386

8 ай бұрын

@@pottsy1907 I find the Blackwing to be stable at all incline positions. The effective weight of lifting the front isn’t the full weight. Coop says what the weight and effective weight are in his video.

Another great review will you ever do a review video on ghe Force USA MyBench, been waiting for one for a long time now.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about that wack bench with a grand canyon gap.

@chrism023

9 ай бұрын

There are alot of people that care or would want to know about it, just saying.

Major lutie please.

Honestly, after seeing the ironmaster bench review recently, all other adjustable benches don’t seem worth it

@RedSpartan32

9 ай бұрын

They’re not. I have the Ironmaster; no question it’s the best bench with the most options.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

The narrow seat on the Ironmaster is terrible for heavy incline presses.

@paulfresh

9 ай бұрын

facts

It would make sens to compare it to the eleiko adjustable bench then. With the price. Reviewing the eleiko bench is something I’m waiting for dearly as well. 😘

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about that bench with it's grand canyon gap

@coachpaul-vedicfitness

9 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 now that you mention it, it is big indeed.

Stay Dog Bench vs Manta Ray Bench please.

That this bench have the handle so close to the floor does not seem very nice in my opinion. Would prefer a bench that have the handle under the seat.

This is out of control, weight is a lazy way to make a bench feel solid. I believe the next big improvement in benches is less weight with more stability by virtue of better design, like the “manta ray” front foot. Surprise, my Cybex already had a wide plate front foot.

Why are they not making them out of aluminum, the cost more then enough to be aluminum

Commercial gyms would go with a heavy duty LifeFitness or HammerStrength bench, not Rogue.

@bmstylee

9 ай бұрын

Commerical gyms aren't their market. They're more for powerlifting/CrossFit/weightlifting gyms.

Coop did you sneak Winnie into this review?? 😂

Here's the thing I don't think you understand Coop. When you're rich money doesn't matter, so people just need to get rich and get the Manta Ray. #lifehack

We need a comparison video of Maximum advantage grip attachments compared to the other versions

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

No we don't

@psykalag

9 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 yeah you're right, we need another comparison video of two nearly identical benches

The made at home premium is really a heavy tax on this bench. It's a shame. I think it's an awesome option I'd love to have. Maybe I'll just save up for it.

COOP... Do the Manta vs AB-3 instead of the Adjustable Bench 3.0... Do premium Rogue vs premium Rogue. Big Dog V Big Dog for Rogues best Premium Bench.

woah

I hate that Rogue cheapened the ladder system with plastic.

@markhalstead2386

9 ай бұрын

That plastic is on top of welded steel catches. One reviewer removed the ladder plastic and it is extremely solid under it.

You think Coop will ever get any bigger?

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Yes!

I would still take the Super Bench Pro V2 all day

Irwin adjustable bench. Review one of those. Adjustable king

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Wack bench with grand canyon gap. No thanks.

@jefforr439

9 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 I don't think we're talking about the same bench. Who cares if there's a gap between the pads. It's an adjustable bench. It has to have a gap or you couldn't adjust it they way you can. FYI, it's one of the most adjustable benches on the market. Again, the gap is where your lumbar is when flat. So it doesn't matter. Start inclining it and its a non issue.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

It's an average bench. Nothing special about it. Not worth reviewing.

@jefforr439

9 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 Then what's the point of a review? It's to go over and share info about it. Why review racks? Just a rack. They all do the same thing right??

Sure the stray dog bench is good. But when they lie on their delivery time and deliver material that has surface rust on it and when questioned say that it just surface rust it won't affect the strength. Basically stray dog sucks.

If only it weren’t so costly :/

@mhxxd4

9 ай бұрын

Get your money up, stop being broke

@avinashtyagi2

9 ай бұрын

​@@mhxxd4Even if you have the money, why would you get this over a Blackwing or the Rogue 3.0?

@mhxxd4

9 ай бұрын

@@avinashtyagi2 because it's better.

@avinashtyagi2

9 ай бұрын

@@mhxxd4 Not $500 better

@mhxxd4

9 ай бұрын

@@avinashtyagi2 i want the best

i got the foot catch and never use it!

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

You do not understand the power of the decline.

@32srt32

9 ай бұрын

​@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 i rarely bench as it is, screws up my front rack for my clean and jerk!

Who’s gonna buy that for a thousand bucks? It’s a bench! Just a bench to lay down at

The Rogue Manta Ray was more than the combined cost of my bar, bench and rack.😂

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

9 ай бұрын

Ugh

@johnwesley2943

9 ай бұрын

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 I take it you're a millionaire then w@#£&r!

Sorry coop, Gluck is the bench review king…….I’m guessing you agree since you use a clip from him!

Coop is looking bigger