I would love to see a full adjustable bench round up! These two are out of my budget, so it would be really helpful to see a current comparison of some lower priced offerings.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

Nobody wants to see cheap garbage

@mackvestersfitness4786

8 ай бұрын

I’d suggest the bells of steel Buzzsaw bench. In Canadian it’s 550$ but as heavy duty as these benches and has a leg extension/curl attachment

@LBJedi

8 ай бұрын

@@mackvestersfitness4786 thanks for the rec! I was looking at that one and the Rep AB4100.

@zombielord555

8 ай бұрын

I like my ironmaster super bench with dip and leg extension attachments Shits cool

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

@@zombielord555 The pizza wedge seat on the ironmaster sucks major ass.

I love ROGUE and their offerings. But $1000+ for the Manta Ray is nutty.

@dmiller4088

8 ай бұрын

Yup. Ironic that some KZreadrs have videos on how to build a homegym with $1000 and this thing is the same price lol

@bmstylee

8 ай бұрын

Yeah but I think the days are gone for building a home gym for $1000 is long gone. Unless you are buying the absolute cheapest stuff.

@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743

8 ай бұрын

​@@bmstylee Yea, I think the least you can spend with the cheapest stuff and a decent barbell is like $2000 for a home gym. Mainly because of the cost of weights.

I know everyone wants to keep comparing these two because they’re new. But I feel like the black wing would be better compared to the rogue adjustable 3.0. Since they are in the same price point and, I think, would make more sense for most of us. Especially since the manta ray seems to be out of most people’s budgets

@MelloHubb

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I honestly think this blackwing would smoke the AB 3.0.

@mantequillas1278

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you. The rogue bench is an insane amount of money, and you have to buy the foot rollers. I own the rogue 3.0 bench, even that was up there in price. I love it though.

Cancelled my order of the Rep AB5200 2.0 when I saw your Blackwing review. Got a Blackwing as my first bench and I like it a lot. I’ve learned I prob won’t need a zero gap feature if I ever need to buy another bench but I’m really happy with my purchase.

Great review. Just ordered a PR-5000 w/ a Blackwing bench using your link.

I have owned the BlackWing since it was released. I pre-ordered it in March. I absolutely love it! It does everything I could ever want a bench to do. I do agree, it is a heavy bench. At 54 years old I can still move this around no problem. If you are in the market for a top tier bench then look no further than the BlackWing. You will NOT be disappointed. Thanks for the great review Coop! V/R Shane

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?

@murdog04

8 ай бұрын

@@pottsy1907 I find the weight of the bench manageable. I am 54 and I don’t have any issues moving it around. This is a heavy bench when compared to many others, but its not too heavy. This is an incredibly stable bench. You will love doing decline work on this thing. You will need the leg attachment if you plan to do anything beyond 8 degrees or so. Good luck.

The Bobblehead Coop thumbnails always get me, I love those. Great video as ever, guys!

I chose the Rogue Manta over the REP purely because I saw in another comparative review the foot catch was way beefier on the Rogue than the REP and this is a feature that was important to me.

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

I’m looking at the manta ray for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?

Hey, Coop. Been watching awhile. Just subscribed. Great comparison, great channel.

Wanted to request an idea. Since there have been so many reviews on benches, have you thought about doing a top ten list in ranking order? Ps that would be nice for any piece of equipment. Thanks for listening.

For vertical stability, it'd be nice to get a wall-mount "seat belt" strap that could easy just clip around it to hold it up. Just some nylon strapping and a plastic press clip would do it.

i'd love to see a new adjustable bench roundup, and if you could add a category for benches that allow for nordic curls that would be extremely helpful

@chrisk7821

8 ай бұрын

You can do nordics on the Rep bench with the add-on foot roller.

Wow dude I bought the Rogue AB-2 with the rollers and it came in ONE BOX! Crazy that their new flagship bench comes in multiple boxes

Coop great comparison. I’m coming from the AB-3 and the gap is something I’m looking to move from. Would love to see you compare these benches with Irwin Fitness and Stray dog Strength. Both benches come at the same price point but I’m stuck in my decision. Thanks again for the great work!

Coop, you're talking about how good the vinyl is on the benches and as you're pushing down on the Rep bench pad I can see the pad is torn or cut. What's with that?

Coop, can you do a review on the rogue donkey please.

As long as the seat can be raised to make a 90-degree "cradle" for my incline bench seating needs, I'm good with it.

I would like to see a review of Bodycraft 730 rft pro rack. I can’t find much reviews online

I have a RepAB 5200, these benches are so long the zero gap makes no difference to me. I set up for the bench press on the back pad and I’m 5’10”. I would definitely buy Rep again, best bang for your buck.

Hey Coop - first thanks for helping me build out the basement gym. Great resource, I appreciate it. Wanted to know - you always suggest power racks, adjustable benches etc - but never Olympic style bench press benches. (one piece bench/bench press rack setup) - wonder if there is a reason why?

@drewplural

5 ай бұрын

Because he’s speaking to the garage gym market who have limited square footage and a dedicated fixed bench press takes up a ton of space for a single purpose which doesn’t make sense.

@neilparry9511

5 ай бұрын

@@drewplural Thanks Coop.

REP confirmed on Instagram that they are going to offer it in a clearcoat colorway and not to mention that 14in wide pad option. I love Rogue, but gonna be hard to justify this one.

@blakemayer9643

8 ай бұрын

Do people generally prefer clear coat as the colors chip? Isn’t the clear coat just the boring shiny polished chrome look?

@liebermanji45

8 ай бұрын

Dude their clear coat is to die for. I have both AB-5000ZG and FB-5000 in matching clear coat. Finest pieces of metal machinery I’ve ever owned and they look freaking amazing. I have been waiting for clearcoat Blackwing since the winter!

I own the rogue adjustable bench 3.0, and it’s a great bench. I’m looking into the rep black wing, only because when doing incline bench inside my rep pr5000 it’s kinda a hassle to get the rogue bench into place. The vertical beam which the back pad rests on in the flat position gets in the way, because I have the rear base stabilizer. The black wing does not have that vertical beam.

Full adjustable bench round up please.

I feel a bit like a dummy asking, but how do you mount the manta ray decline with your legs so high up in the air. With dumbbells as well? Seems like a work out unto itself.

The Rogue's teeth for adjusting the bench really shows it is a higher quality product and attention to detail over the REP with just two sets of teeth and an empty gap in between. I really like the zero gap feature on the REP even though I would probably never use it. But I don't think I could justify it to myself spending an extra $400 for the Rogue.

Hi Coop! Can you do a review on Prime Fitness Shorty bench with its attachments? I’m trying to figure out what to buy.

Do an AB4100 vs AB5200 review and the Crandall Fitness Free Motion Lever Arms!

Sup Coop. How do you think these compare to your old fav the Prime bench?

Great video and always enjoy watching these comparisons. I did notice at time stamp 10:54/10:55, Coop talks about quality (made in the USA versus imported) . He labels the Blackwing as Rogue and Manta Ray as REP. I did a double take and thought "Rogue offers the Manta Ray in blue?". I went with the Manta Ray due to shipping availability to Hawaii. Again love the videos and enjoy them watching them when I am away from my home gym.

@runiniscrazy

8 ай бұрын

Yup I caught it too. Looked in the comments to see if I'm not mistaken another instance he pointed over his shoulder at the wrong one too. 🤷‍♂️ we all make mistakes lol.

I agree, although I love Rogue and to take nothing away from them. If someone is on a budget, which most are, Rep is the better value. That being said, I would add one more thing that Rep has over Rogue, if I am not mistaken, that Rep offers a 14" wide pad on their incline bench and for me having a wide back is helpful. Thank you for the review.

@AnontheGOAT

3 ай бұрын

You are correct - extra $20 for a 14” width pad.

Coop, how could you give the pad to rogue when you said in the manta review that you didn't like that it only had the smaller pad and you can get the larger pad on the rep?

@hitleractually8180

8 ай бұрын

Thompson vinyl. Clean out your ears.

Still holding out for a leg press/hack squat video …I’m looking at ForceUSA full sized combo for reference 😂

somebody has to tell Coop which bench is on his left/right... or maybe use a different bg pic that matches which way he points when he says rogue/rep

Rep’s vinyl is already torn at 12:30 wow

@AnontheGOAT

3 ай бұрын

Could be a mfg defect.

I preordered the blackwing in blue and have had it for a couple months now. It’s awesome. I can’t even imagine a bench being better than this one no matter how much you spend. It’s better than any bench I’ve used at a commercial gym.

@pottsy1907

8 ай бұрын

I’m looking at the blackwing for the decline feature and storage.. how do u find the weight to lift up the bench and ease of moving it around? Also, do u find the decline stable at higher decline levels?

@randyweaver6911

8 ай бұрын

@@pottsy1907 It mostly comes down to how much space you have. It is a little heavy but if you have a decent amount of room it’s not a big deal. I was using it in a 10’ x 12’ room and it was a little awkward moving it around but now I have it in my garage and it’s not an issue at all. The entire bench is extremely stable at any angle both incline and decline.

Looks like a few of us caught then incorrectly placed flag on the benches when you talked about country of origin. Other than that great comparison. Would like to see some Irwin fitness reviews

I just picked up a Body Solid commercial grade adjustable for 350 bucks. All welded construction, commercial warranty. It is nicely finished with a heavy duty gray paint, compact, and built like a tank. Worth a look.

When are you going to review the Irwin Fitness adjustable bench?

Both seem like great benches but like you said $400 less is a huge difference, and you get the color options with Rep.

@timk8258

Ай бұрын

Tons of things like that in their videos that clearly show whoever is doing the editing doesn’t lift or understand the products being discussed.

Do you think the Buzz-saw is in the conversation - at least for value? Seems like it comes close to the others for just $500 - with some good attachment options coming (apparently).

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

Hell no. Wack

Let me ask you this, have you tried the wide 14in pad on the Rep. Would it limit your movement pressing

@liebermanji45

8 ай бұрын

I have 14” wide pad on my AB-5000ZG; love it and I’m going to get the same in Blackwing.

@shift3389

Ай бұрын

Depends how wide your shoulders are. If your broad shoulders get the wide

Does anyone know if Rogue's leg roller attachment fit the Rep's Blackwing?

@garagegymreviews do you have an affiliate link for Rogue Europe? People (myself included) have been watching your videos for all their inspiration and feel it's only right to use an affiliate link if you've got one for the European version of the store. This channel has been a huge difference for us home gym lovers, both in terms of entertainment and information!

Comparing these two to both the Stray dog alpha and Irwin fitness bench!

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

Wack

I'm pretty picky when it comes to new purchases. When you were comparing the upholstery of these benches, the Rep bench already had a tear in its upholstery on the side corner of it. This may not bother a lot of people, but tears in the upholstery just keep growing. Maybe As'Sam"bly Sam did it with his box cutters when he opened it.

@covidcarl7480

8 ай бұрын

was thinking the exact some thing. OCD warriors unite!

I have even looked on the website, and didn’t find a rogue donkey review.

Great video, but Rep was on your right and Rogue on your left. Lol😊

I love the idea of made in the USA, but 1,200 USD is outrageous for a bench. In this case price speaks louder when the differences are minor, so I'll probably end up upgrading to the blackwing when the times comes, unless something better... cue the pun... rolls around.

What about prime’s?

Really glad I watched this. I was ready to buy the Blackwing, but decided to go with made in America. Can't bitch about all of our jobs going overseas if you're not willing to pay the higher price for American labor. Let's face it, it costs more to live in America than in China. Since I'm buying this to pair with a Speede Challenger, I'm not quibbling over a few hundred dollars difference.

I’m saving up for the iron master super bench pro. Decline on it looks good for sit-ups.

You should do a review on the TYTAX® T1-X - a professional Home Gym, its a very interesting piece of equippement.

Love how clueless Coop is to which bench is on which side of the green screen

What about the Stray Dog Strength Alpha Bench vs these two?

Just found out I've been lifting my benches all wrong using a bear hug! Guess I'll try using the built in handles now.

As a french citizen, i have not the choice, only rogue sell product in my country, so, i go for rogue manta ray.

Where is the REP made?

It's absolutely nuts that the best home gym youtube channel has only 445k subscribers. Beautiful video even though I can't even afford either bench. Home gym growth isn't even close to reaching it's pinnacle, there's so much room for growth if people cared more about their personal fitness and health.

@hitleractually8180

8 ай бұрын

I think people care more about fitness now than ever before. But most people don't have the room or money for a home gym. It's hard to justify a home gym when Planet Fitness is $10 a month. As far as home gym growth, it's gotten soooooooo bougie!!!!! So many small companies popping up, offering stainless steel knurled specialty items. I can buy stainless knurled grips for my landmine attachment handles. It's getting pretty ridiculous.

Did you realize that you marked Rogue as imported and Rep's as Made in the USA? Hopefully that didn't persuade anyone the other direction LOL.

you picked the one I own!!! 🙂

Rep offers a wide pad version. That alone is the difference maker for me.

The Mirafit M460 is a very close competitor to these two benches at £549. UK.

@vonovine

8 ай бұрын

That includes the leg roller attachment & Zero gap.

Great coop took my luggage scale idea

I would love to see you compare it to the irwin fitness bench and the stray dog alpha bench

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

Wack

I want to order from rep fitness but they don't deliver to Hawaii, coup can you convince rep fitness to deliver to Hawaii

People always say that they are willing to pay more if it's made in America (if it's good quality) but when it comes down to it they usually aren't. 🤣🤷‍♂

Super Bench Pro beats both, major adjustability and so many attachments

I want the Manta Ray. But I'll be damn if I spend that much for a boring black bench. Please add sone freaking to the benches Rogue. Y'all already know

I'm going to get the Blackwing... In red.

A bench characteristic dear to me is how grippy the padding is. If your upper back slides during pressing, your arch is gone. I have to set a band around the bench in commercial gyms to be safe. I would appreciate it if you expand on that moving forward, Coop. Keep up the great work!

@stevenkingsley7781

5 ай бұрын

There’s a mention to this around the 12:15 mark, preference is with the Rogue as it’s using the grabber vinyl from the Thompson fat pad

I have the Blackwing. It’s awesome

U won’t buy both of them for ur garage because it too heavy. Do u any suggestions brand we should buy that give us the same concept like these 2

the manta ray is on another level, their 3.0 bench is like the same bench as the black wing but usa made

@repfitness make the clear coat version of the black wing and take my money!

@liebermanji45

8 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

editing on this is a bit off. seem to keep getting rogue and rep mixed up with the graphics, the gesturing, the cuts, and even the call outs

Error at 10:51 pointing at wrong bench at putting American flag on REP and imported box on Rogue. Pretty big mistake there guys

Round up !!

Call me nutty, but the lack of two tone color options (like the AB 5200 2.0) makes me sour on the Blackwing lol Meanwhile Rogue is the Apple of home gym equipment: charging people outrageous prices bc they can. Screw that

As soon as my dad's old adjustable Marcy bench breaks then I'll just go to Walmart and buy an adjustable golds gym bench. Might never happen though.

I bought a blue BlackWing.

you did not mention accesroies

Rep 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

2:27 “relatively large in comparison to the competition”. That’s what she said.

I think knurled grip on the handles for these is not appropriate. When you reach down and pick them up, they rotate around the pivot point (wheels). So by design, the handle should be rotating in your hand. Meanwhile, it’s not like they weigh enough to need the knurling in the first place. Anyways…just my thoughts on that

I have the rogue so hope it wins lmao if not, all good. I love it 😂

@billchurch4460

8 ай бұрын

I have no doubt it's the better, nicer bench. Whether or not it's worth the price premium is a personal choice. One thing I do like about the China manufactured bench is the ability to decline without the need for the foot catch. That would come in handy for certain exercises. I guess you could prop up one end of the Manta Ray using a bumper plate etc. I have Rogue's AB-3 and can't really imagine upgrading considering what I paid for that bench. I'm sure Rogue's foot catch is also much nicer in comparison to what is currently being offered by the Chinese manufacturers.

How many times do you have to see that hairy mustache kiss the equipment?

The Irwin Fitness AB 1.0 looks pretty sick. Don't know how comparable it is to Manta and Blackwing, maybe earlier premium models from Rep and Rogue, but it's handmade and amazing quality. Only thing - $300ish to ship from Canada. Side note: Irwin makes probably the best roller J-Cups on the market.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

The Irwin bench is wack

@mattjw08

8 ай бұрын

The blackwing is over $600 shipped to Canada.

@stefanravalli6940

8 ай бұрын

What are it's wackest aspects?@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

3rd competitor would be prime fitness adjustable bench in terms of value.

@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

8 ай бұрын

Wack

I will pay more and buy Made in USA every single time. And I am in Canada.

Made in America should be priority 🇺🇸

I have the rep 5200 and if I could get someone to give me $400 for it I would upgrade to the blackwing.

I'm curious why these benches keep getting bigger and heavier? I'm 6 foot 4, 220 lbs., and the Rep AB-4100 is plenty big. Apparently, it's the most compact bench they sell, too. Unless you're as big as Shaq, I don't get why you'd need a 57 inch, 140 lbs. bench.

Want a new roundup including anything new from Prime

It bothers me that he keeps pointing to the wrong bench. 😂

Perfect example of equal products between REP and Rogue but Rogue has an extremely higher price. It's like this going down through 97% of each ones inventory!!!!!!

@HoerigStrength

8 ай бұрын

It’s like one is made in the USA and the other is made in China

this rouge bench is totally commercial i bet most of the benches we see in commercial gyms probably cost the same or more than the manta ray but are far worse in comparison over 1k for a bench for a home gym is just silly that money can be much better spent on other things

I mean, I'd still go AB-3000 2.0 or AB-4100 for under 400... but if I was looking at the best bench... I want stainless steel touches, color options, built in decline, nordic curls (rogue's doesn't have holes on both sides of their leg attachment)... and oh yeah, not to spend $1,200... blackwing is an easy choice.

@hitleractually8180

8 ай бұрын

The AB-3100 was my first adjustable bench. Think I paid $240 for it, delivered to my door. This was back in like, 2019. You could even put it down in a decline option. I've since moved on from that bench, but as a starter bench, it was pretty damn nice for less than $300.

I wouldn't mind paying more for Rogue. But they are simply not delivering the innovation that REP is.

i had to stop video and comment: I NEED TO BEAR-HUG my bench to move it in my tiny homegym. the weight is 36kg and looking for something around 25kg in europe markets

I wish I was friends with Coop and lived in the same town, so I could prank him by just making random objects around his house that have handles knurled. Coffee cups, door handles, railing on the stairs in his house, toilet paper 😮