Some good insights here. However, some points need additional clarification and counter-points. REP is a family owned business, and while we have always invested into R&D, we really beefed up our quality team, engineering team, and our entire business the last few years. We have continued to push the envelope and have no plans to stop. We consider Rogue a great competitor and someone we respect as well. No bad blood as Coop mentioned. Clarifications... 1) This must have been filmed awhile ago, as we launched our new barbells weeks ago and they have a similar lifetime warranty. We never really took a deep dive into barbells until recently, and we are really happy with our new lineup of bars. We showcased these at the Arnold Sports Festival and Home Gym Con and had great feedback. They should start making their way out in the wild in the next handful of weeks. 2) Neither us or Rogue have been around for decades as Coop mentions at @3:12. Rogue was established in 2008 vs us in 2012. A 4 year difference. 3) Coop is right in saying that our innovations have been more in-house. We haven't absorbed other companies, designs, or manufacturing existing products to push our innovation forward. Designing equipment in-house takes longer, but we believe ultimately leads to the best products. 4) Our upright measurements are 75mm x 75mm which is 2.95"... so super close to 3". People have added something similar small to make other companies attachments fit, like felt tape. Regarding the price comparisons... I think some clarification is necessary. 1) Most people are buying a rack that is beyond the bare bones uprights and crossmembers. When you start adding attachments, that is where the price difference becomes even greater. It's also where we shine with our cable attachments like the Athena, Ares, and more. The price difference is even bigger when comparing the PR-5000 vs Monster. For example: spotter arms for that series - $210 vs ~$350 - A 60% difference. 2) The dumbbells is an interesting one that I think was a bit misleading - note: we have free shipping so rogue is estimated. When comparing the common 5-50 with our fully knurled dumbbells it's $1100 vs ~$1300 so a $200 difference. 5-75 is $2,280 vs ~$2,600+ so a $300+ difference. Finally the 5-100 set is $3600 vs ~$4250 which is about a $650 difference. It's extremely rare for anyone to buy a 2.5lb to 125lb with increments of 2.5 up to 30lbs as described - especially for a home gym. The full sets that are common purchases are better examples. Other examples... Safety squat bars... $330 vs ~$540 BlackWing Bench vs Manta Ray... $600 vs $1,070 AB-5000 ZeroGap vs AB3.... $600 vs $1200 If you're outfitting a home gym, we should typically come in hundreds if not thousands cheaper depending on what you get. To say that it "may" be a little bit cheaper... is a bit inaccurate. Having said that, we still stake someone's purchasing decision on innovation, value, customer support. No one beats us when considering all three.

@weejitwill

Жыл бұрын

REP has literally entered the chat lol

@blakemcclary3380

Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new bar launches! I'm trying to make a decision on a DL bar that I'll be picking up soon. Can you pretty please add or respond w/ the inside length dimension from collar to collar on the Hades bar? To me, it is an important dimension for a DL bar. I see you have sleeve and overall, but I don't know how thick the collars are so I can't deduce the math. If I'm missing it somewhere on your site, please fact check me. Thanks for all of what your team does!

@psykalag

Жыл бұрын

Lots of great points. I totally agree that the ares takes reps innovation to a whole new level. With that said, I purchased an ares and pr5000 recently and I had some questions that I emailed in and just never got a response on. After 3 emails, I finally called and connected to someone who was able to help me. Also, when I made my area/pr5000 purchase, the spotter arms were out of stock. I tried to use my points to purchase them, but was told I couldn't use more than $100 worth of points in a single transaction, even though I just dropped 5k...while I understand the terms of the rewards system, I was nonetheless disappointed

@johnbrodie9815

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying on Coop's points! Seeing the price breakdowns is something I'll definitely be taking into consideration when building my home gym.

@GenXFitness

Жыл бұрын

Rep could have flexed a little bit and pointed out that Rogue doesn't have anything close to the Ares/Athena 😆

My current setup is all REP and if I had more room then it would continue to be all REP. I wish they would come out with a compact Leg extension/Leg Curl combo.

@REPfitness

Жыл бұрын

Rack mounted and bench attachment are both in the prototype phase. Coming soon.

@jasongoodman4959

Жыл бұрын

@@REPfitness Another reason to prefer Rep - they respond to people in KZread comments sometimes! = )

@avinashtyagi2

Жыл бұрын

@@REPfitness How will it compare to the Bulletproof Isolator?

@cody_dsmith

Жыл бұрын

@@REPfitnessDo you think you’ll make it compatible with Athena and/or Ares? I think a leg ext/leg curl for a home gym that utilizes a cable would really set itself above all of the free weight options on the market given the superior resistance curve.

@enriquel1993

Жыл бұрын

@@REPfitness I was thinking more in the lines of a stand-alone plate loaded/selectorized machine. Like a Titan leg Extension/Curl machine but with the taste and character of REP Fitness. I promise it would sell like hot cakes.

Coop, thank you for all the reviews. I was totally going REP fitness after your recommendations, but I'm glad I found the Rogue Monster Lite Half Rack. It doesn't get nearly the love it deserves. Neither does the new Rogue shipping offers. I just bought the Monster Lite Half Rack with the Hybrid power bar, 8 deep dish plates, a full set of steel calibrated change plates (including 25lbs), Thompson Fat Pad bench, and few other goodies. Total shipping cost for everything...$75. I tried building out the same rig with REP and the difference was only a couple hundred bucks. So if you can buy several things at once with your rack, Rogue has narrowed that price gap considerably. Also, the Monster Lite Half Rack comes with some truly nice upgrades like the numbered uprights and included band pegs. After just putting this all together last night, I can say there is nothing "half" or "lite" about this rack and with 24" cross members, I can easily expand this rack into a full Monster Lite rack with storage by just ordering the extra parts from Rogue. ZERO REGRETS!

Rogue has been phenomenal- the quality and overall heritage of quality has been awesome. I prefer the product being built and manufactured in the US and that their customer service is based here. Rep is solid and glad that the competition is tight. Great times for home gym folks.

As an Ares owner, I believe the Ares and Athena set a new standard for a cable system within a rack. I am seeing a lot of budget racks copy this design. Rogue's slinger is essentially awful in comparison. Rogue has been adding a lot of rack accessories but nothing that's as innovative as the Ares/Athena. I am looking forward to what both companies have to offer in the future.

@airgordo4

Жыл бұрын

Ares is just a copy of what bodykraft (and others I’m sure) already had but made to fit 3x3 racks. Budget racks copying that design are just copying the design Rep already copied if that makes sense.

@GenXFitness

Жыл бұрын

@@airgordo4 Please provide the link to these "so called products". I just searched for bodykraft and nothing came up, not even a website. Stop making stuff up 😆

@FitLabb

Жыл бұрын

@@GenXFitnessI just bought a PR-5000 with the ARES attachment and I agree that it’s the best of both worlds combined into one solid package. I can’t say enough how much I’m loving both, and I’m hardly even using my Cybex Bravo functional trainer anymore now that I have the ARES on the power rack. They definitely knocked it out of the park with that release!

@GenXFitness

Жыл бұрын

@@FitLabb First my condolences to your bank account 😂💸 You are going to love it! The Ares is a great gym centerpiece of any gym 👌🏾

@jugjivan

Жыл бұрын

The ares itself is a copy of a similar product that was already being sold by their own manufacturer. 😂

Both. I love my Rep PR-5000 ARES rack (93" 30+16 six post, stormtrooper scheme). But I love the Rogue 2.0 weight pegs, Rogue 2.0 leg rollers with those fantastic knurled knobs, Rogue 2.0 band pegs and Rogue 2.0 landmine. Add in my 2 stray dog GOATS and I'm set. Many vendors make great products. I'm glad they are all awesome!

I own select things from both companies. My REP PR-5000 in clear coat is a perfect piece of artwork. I can't imagine paying more for something else. I also can't stand the ergonomic dumbbells, so I got a set of REP's rubber hex dumbbells. Absolutely love the straight knurled handles. Can't go wrong with either, but I keep finding myself buying more and more stuff from REP and I've loved every single thing. Fantastic value.

Thanks for the shout out!

Love these reviews. One thing that could add value here is a summary slide of the side by side comparisons. Sort of the spreadsheet view of all your categories and the results. Then I could screenshot it. Just food for thought

As usual great inside info!!!!

If i had to repurchase my entire home gym and could only choose one company, I'd choose REP. That said, there are some things Rogue makes that either REP does not make, or they just make it so much better. Like Coop said, its really product dependent. What i like about REP is that they market directly to home gym users, where Rogue markets more to commercial facilities and their sponsored athletes. You can tell the difference in quality, as Rogue tends to be quite a bit higher in quality, but you just cant beat REPs innovation and home gym focus right now. Their rack attached cable machines are the new gold standard, and no one else is even close.

Mostly REP now, but still Rouge barbells.

@meisdetermined

Жыл бұрын

Barbells-Rogue Benches-REP New cool stuff-REP Customer Service-tie If I’m gonna spend $5k I’m probably gonna go Rogue because the free shipping makes it easier to go American made and makes the price close enough that I WANT to spend more on American made.

@ryanunderwood6827

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the bar - for me at least. Power bars/oly bars Rogue for sure. But I’ve always preferred the Again Faster Team Bar over the Ohio for general/CrossFit

@meisdetermined

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanunderwood6827 are they still in business??

@junioralvarado629

Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait for the new rep barbells to fully go to rep side

@tonya7699

Жыл бұрын

@@junioralvarado629 Yeah, their new barbells look really good. REP rack with the Ares cable attachment, Blackwing, and I'll be good to go.

Hey man. You have been super detailed and doing a great job !! Loving the energy and info you provide !!! Can you please do a comparison between g20pro with another unit similar unit. I need to get an all in one garage gym. Many thanks in advance brother love from Portugal

Just invested in a Rep PR-5000 & ARES, as well as the new 5200 bench that’s coming out in a month or two & absolutely love the power rack & functional trainer so far. The price and versatility can’t be beat, the quality is among the best out there, and they’re a great company that’s constantly raising the bar (no pun intended) as you mentioned. I added the Rogue Pritchett pad to my PR-5000 and also bought a Rogue Ohio Bar and love both, and I’ll probably continue to mix and match future purchases from both companies going forward…..but overall I see myself leaning more heavily towards REP as I see them as a better value overall for equipment that’s almost exactly comparable quality. 💪

I use both! I have a REP rack and bench with Rogue barbell and weighs. Love them both.

I'm just building my home gym, so I've had to piece things together as I could afford them. I have 8 3/4" stall mats for my flooring. I bought an adjustable bench on Amazon by a company called Youten, which I'm extremely happy with. It's quite sturdy to only cost $200. I bought an adjustable height power tower, also on Amazon for $140. I'm going to get the Quick Lock dumbells from Ironmaster in a couple of weeks as well as the Rep PR-1050 power rack. It'll fit under my short ceiling in my basement. I've also purchased 2 Ironmaster dumbell stands. I'm pretty happy with how things are coming along.

I have a Rep 5000 Ares, Rep adjustable kettlebell, Rep 4100 bench, and a Rogue purchased Nuobell set. The build of all the Rep gear is beyond reproach. However, both companies sent my QC issues. One of my Nuobells was inoperable out of the box. Rogue was friendly over the phone, communicated with the manufacturer on my behalf, and sent out a new adjustable handle. It was smooth, BUT, it the whole process took about a month. Both front lower pulley brackets on my Rep 5000 Ares were, while gorgeous, inoperable. The pulleys themselves were crushed in their housing and impossible to remove. Therefore my $5000 rack was useless. Rep has immediately shipped out two replacement brackets no questions asked. Shipping says it will arrive today. Don’t think you can go too wrong with either company.

@GuitarsAndSynths

3 ай бұрын

Life Fitness and Hammer Strength is the gold standard in my book even though expensive and they have not yet come up with integrated functional cable trainer with their power racks. If they did, that would be my top choice. Wealthy bodybuilders like the Rock use only Hammer Strength and commercial USA made quality but expensive.

I have the REP 5000 rack with the Lat Pulldown and I love it. I also have the Urethane Dumbbells 5-50lb with the storage rack. The main reason I went with Rep was the price and all the extra attachments you can buy. With Rep I feel like you get more bang for your buck.

I built my gym in the early pandemic, largely researching through this channel and similar resources like Basement Brandon and Garage Gym Lab. I mostly went with Rogue (aside from the benches). It seemed like the more established brand with more accessories and a stronger ecosystem. At the time, Rep was having some quality issues that made me suspicious of them, like how their strap safeties had failed and their belt squat attachment wasn't very good. But now, I wish I'd gone with Rep. It feels like Rep's quality has improved a lot, and their prices are often better. The biggest thing is the innovative products, though. Rogue's Slinger is embarrassing, and it doesn't seem like it's getting fixed, while Rep has the Ares. Rep has a built in lat pulldown / low row in a space efficient way, and Rogue has nothing like it. Rep keeps coming out with new stuff, and Rogue seems like it's focusing more on aesthetics or the university gym level rather than the home gym consumer. Did we really need a new dip bar instead of a working cable system? I've advised multiple friends to go with Rep, and none of them have regretted it. I hope Rogue sees this video and the comments under it and actually starts trying to innovate again.

@tier1detailing

Жыл бұрын

Curious how Reps quality control is today. About 5 years ago I tried their competition and colored bumper plates. The competition plates have been great, however...my grey, 10lb colored bumpers have almost completely discolored to an almost orange tint. Have no idea what could cause that

@pHaTtY111111111111

Жыл бұрын

@@tier1detailing don't most comp bumpers come from the same factory in China though?

@BrandonSchwartz1

Жыл бұрын

Would you say the slinger with weight stack is a bad option? It’s basically an Athena-style with 1:1 ratio since you can’t have the adjustability of a single stack without 2:1 to allow movement of the pulleys up and down.

@jasongoodman4959

Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonSchwartz1 The reviews on the Slinger seem pretty universally negative. I can't even consider it for my situation because of its vertical space requirements. Maybe it's better now that there are weight stacks for it, though? I just ordered the Surplus Strength UPS, which I'm very excited about, because I can fit it and can pair it with a drop-in Rhino for a high/low cable and low row / lat pulldown. It's funny to me though that third party companies are innovating more for Rogue owners than Rogue themselves.

@BrandonSchwartz1

Жыл бұрын

@@jasongoodman4959I have the same setup of Rhino and Surplus UPS and I gotta say it’s not the greatest from a smoothness perspective and seated rows kinda feel like garbage. I’d much rather have a selectorized or even the UPS alone is unbelievably smooth feeling since it’s just 2 pulleys. If you wanna use the UPS with the loading pin and ignore the Rhino you’ll need some 1”-2” rubber mats to make it work. Otherwise your loading pin gets all messed up landing on the end of the rhino cable

Other differences not mentioned in the video: * Rep's assembly instructions and processes are generally much better than Rogue's * Rep's marketing is generally way better than Rogue's (Rep: cool trailer videos explaining new gear, photos of people using their stuff on their Instagram / Rogue: Nothing for days, then 100 identical stories in row of just screenshots of new shirt designs) * Rogue is deeper in the CrossFit community if you're into that, and sponsors more fitness events * Rep has more locations for picking up their products in person (in the US) * Rogue used to be more customizable / amenable to one-off requests in general, but I think a lot of that went away during the pandemic

I just built my home gym and it is almost all REP products. PR-5000 w/the Ares set up. I only have a small space and wanted both a power rack and a functional trainer. The Ares is almost the only option out there when space is limited. I absolutely love my set up. Overall I feel REP products are just more fun. Designs and color options. The PR-5000 and the Blackwing bench are absolute beasts. So well made. I do own a Rogue Ohio Bar and a few sets of collars. Thanks for input Coop. Loved the video.

I use mainly Rep gear in my gym, and I love it. Great quality, great functionality, great prices. I start with them for all research for new gear. I do prefer Rogue barbells because they offer shorter barbells and I’m in a small space. I also use Rogue bumpers because they are thinner.

I’m going to build a home gym from scratch, will go with REP. The Ares is what clenched it. Thanks for the reviews Coop!

One thing that you failed to mention where Rep is killing Rogue is in the customization game. I personally own a Rogue Monster RM6 and had a Monster Lite 390BT before that. It would be nice to be able to buy additional uprights, and crossmember a la carte from Rogue in any color they offer. This is something Rep offers and something Rogue could easily do as well. Also a "rack builder" option could be nice for those looking for something custom.

@hitleractually8180

Жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying, BUT you can do the same thing with Rogue. Just have to reach out to Rogue HQ and they'll add uprights and crossmembers to your cart in any finish you desire.

@stevensecondo1103

Жыл бұрын

@@hitleractually8180 I've heard that, but it should just be right there to add to your cart. You shouldn't have to reach out them them for a custom order. It's an easy fix and would be much appreciated.

Great job Coop!😊

Hi, I love your Videos! Its just sad that its really hard to find someone doing this over here in Eleiko-land with european products! I think Eleiko is just too expensive, and now I have ordered a barbell, weights and bench from a German company called ATX Fitness instead! Do you have any plans on checking out more of the european market, or is the shipping just too much?

Started out with Walmart type lifting, biggest jump up was to Rouge Yoke setup, and im now about to switch over to Rep Ares 5000

Seriously though, originally I'd say that Rogue was better, but in last 2-3 years Rep has pulled ahead Rogue is like the Hare that went to sleep against the Tortoise

@pHaTtY111111111111

Жыл бұрын

That is a pretty accurate analogy.

@johnhernandez4763

Жыл бұрын

Rogue too expensive with shipping cost

@OfficialMarkZuckerberg

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, they made the slinger and thought it would be fine then rep comes out with the ares while they're sleeping

@zack9912000

Жыл бұрын

​@johnhernandez4763, not really, USA made products for the same prices as rep charges from charges.

@avinashtyagi2

Жыл бұрын

@zack9912000 Not so, compare a fullu loaded pr-5000 vs a fully loaded monster rack, the PR-5000 will be significantly cheaper

Best thing is you can try em both at next years Home Gym Con in French Lick, Indiana.

I am the same Coop! have products from both and honestly feel i cant go wrong with either and at the times i purchased it came down to sales so price was my deciding factor

My rack is Rep as are my Swiss bar and trap bar, my barbells are Rogue along with a few other pieces. In Canada, Rogue has superior shipping. If I order from Rogue it’s often shipped in a day, and I have waited up to 2 weeks for Rep to ship.

I was in the Rogue Bar and Rack / REP bench club for a while. However, the introduction of the ARES just blew my mind. Rogue has the "Cave" but the ARES has the footprint that suits most home gyms. I can't believe Rogue hasn't come up with their own version. The price tag is a bit higher than I'd like for the ARES, but, I'm definitely leaning that way. Listen up Rogue...you've got about two more months to make an entry into the field before you lose another consumer to REP! LOL.

@tuckertech

Жыл бұрын

Same. I love the way Rogue racks look, the beefier and made in US I love. But that Athena/Ares blows the slinger out of the water. I REALLY want Rogue to come up with something similar.

I’d love to see a comparison between Sorinex and Rogue.

Just came across this video. I have mostly Rogue items. Like dumbbbells, kettlebells, a few dumper plates and a barbell. I’ll most likely end up getting one of their squat stands in the future. For Rep, I currently only have an adjustable bench. I’ll end up getting their DB rack just due to the price. I don’t really have a preference for one or the other, so I clearly have a mix of the two when my home gym is done. Just looking for the best price that I can afford and what fits my needs

For pricing it's also worth mentioning that you can pick up REP orders from a showroom for 10% off the order (if you're lucky enough to live near one). I don't know if rogue offers that.

Coop. Nice versus video. I probably lean towards Rogue, I'm seriously thinking and getting a pair of their Fatbells and maybe a kb. What about a Sorinex vs Rogue, comparison? I've been a subscriber for a while. Great and informative channel. Thank you for this.

@beck-tn9gl

11 ай бұрын

@GarageGymReviews_ Do tell...

I'm over 40 years old now. And I started buy chrome fixed dumbbells. Because that's my last set and I'll keep using them. If your customers are older they should buy "nicer" equipment rather than just big weights.

Team Rogue here! And I live in Colorado, but REPs warehouse isn't in Colorado anymore so I don't feel like I betrayed the home team. Nothing beats the Ohio Power Bar, and 90% of my home gym is Rogue.

Nice review

Any chance you could eventually review the new Rogue/Woodway Curve LTG Treadmill (and compare it to the Assault Air Runner Pro)? Thanks!

One thing worth noting is that Rogue has presence in Europe while REP doesn't, yet. So for someone in Europe it's not even a competition :( On the REP site they state that they want to open up to Europeans in 2023 which is really good news. For example I bought a monster lite rack because REP was unfortunately not available to me. Also I bought ATX (german brand, would love to see some comparisons with REP and Rogue products) benches while I would have bought the REP benches if it would have been available to me

I have a variety of everything...eleiko, rogue, Elitefts, York, Cybex, Titan.... I try to find the best deal on equipment vs being dependent on a specific name brand.

If I had it to do over, I would probably choose REP, but at the time I chose ForceUSA (G20 Pro)...mostly because I lift alone and wanted the Smith machine integrated into the rack. My only regret with the ForceUSA rack, which I knew going in, but didn't appreciate enough, was the non-standard sized square tube used by ForceUSA, which eliminates the ability to use some innovative attachments made by other manufacturers. I have cable accessories, bars, plates, etc. from both REP and Rogue, though.

I love my Rogue rack but they need an Athena equivalent, benches are all Rep and loving them. "Regular" bars I go with Rogue but I hate the ribbed sleeves and all my specialty bars (including the ones on my wish list) are Rep. Plates I have a mixture of Rogue's Deep Dish and their competition training bumpers, My kids love my Fringe Sports Donut plates lol Dumbbells I would hands down would love Reps Urethane Dumbbells. If I could only have one ecosystem I'd most likely go with Rep bcuz the products I love of theirs I couldn't replace with Rogue's option but my Rogue products I wouldn't be that bummed if I had the Rep equivalent.

I'd be interesting in a video series that does company deep dives: History, place in market, best products, etc

@LucasSmith-ck1lb

4 ай бұрын

I second this, get to work Coop!💪🏼 we need to know what has happened thus far within each company. I feel like both are great, but, "globally sourced" versus made in the USA hands down needs to be talked about. Which REP produces in general are USA made? Which ones should we stay away from generally? There has to be some sort of guide here. I'd assume all the uprights are made in one facility, where is that? Barbell facility? Ect

Rep PR 4000 w plate loaded lat and Jammer arms, Rep zero gap, and Rep Iron plates. Rogue Ohio bar and Titan fitness leg extension leg curl machine. Everything works amazing and couldn’t be happier.

I really like both, and have both. I've found myself leaning towards Rogue for things I know I want to last forever (Barbells, Plates, Rack) and Rep for things like speciality bars, benches where I feel I either don't want to invest extra money or the quality gap has been closed. TLDR on the most important things in my gym I lean Rogue, for other things I lean REP

I’m brand new to home gyms. Great review! Any opinions on Bowflex or Torque Fitness? Or even NordicTrac? Thanks

Coop, can you please do a review on the Major Lutie PLM03 power rack

Consumers win when companies like this compete. I have products from both. They're both great. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

I went Rogue for Rack & Bar, Rep for Bench & Titan for plates. Oh and tractor supply for ya know..

Can u make videos on plyo boxes and med balls

Can you do a review on Major Lutie SML07 and the Mikolo smith machine 2200 lbs cap or a comparison rather? I have been thinking about these two to add to my garage gym as a good affordable option.

Can you buy a 4 post rack from rep or rogue, and later add on to make it a 6 post? And or add the ares system to those racks? Looking to get something to get started, but that I can build onto.

Hey Coop, Im trying to decide between the Rogue yoke or Reps new Oxylus what do you suggest? Thank you

Another deal with rogue that I’m not sure you can do with REP (although since they’re doing free shipping, all the time it may not matter) If you live in that region of the country, you can actually drive to the rogue factory campus and pick up your order in person with a trailer and they’ll put it on a pallet and load it for you. I mean, if you have a significant amount of stuff especially weights that you’re ordering from them it really might be worth it if you lived within 500 miles just to make a road trip with your buddy for the weekend to go up there and get it get lunch turn around and come back.

Rep Fitness please redesign the leg attachment for your adjustable benches. Your current design is very painful on the knees and makes decline situps and decline benchpress almost impossible.

Please review the Kabuki Transformer Bar. I would like to hear your thoughts.

Help me decide Rogue or Rep! I'm still waiting for a review of the Rogue Functional Trainer! Coop did a review on the Rep FT-5000 a few months ago... and im hoping there is a new vid coming soon via Rogue FT?!? I need to make a decision a year ago 🤪 The gym is all Rogue and Rep...but the question is, who gets to be the cable system. Help a coach out, Coop! Thanks.

I really am waiting to see if Life Fitness comes out with an integrated cable trainer add on to the amazing Hammer Strength power racks. That would be my dream setup for an American made premium setup. My sales rep there told me they were working on some new stuff last year. Avoid crap made in PRC if possible.

I’ve got rogue kb, rep kb, cff pro elite squat stands, Vulcan strength bench. The Best Buy is used equipment to save big time.

Still waiting on Rogue Manta Ray versus Rep Blackwing comparison video.

Thank you.

Both Rogue and REP are good companies. Currently, Rogue is still in the lead overall. Perhaps, some of REPs products are better on a benefit-cost basis. I believe that other companies are analyzing both REP and Rogue to improve their own products and the more competition in the home gym space is a great thing. When I was a teenager long before the Internet there was only York Barbell products. If you want to see cheap products buy York! Thank you for your informative reviews and keep up the good work for all of us and the industry! Merry Christmas 2023!!😁

Packaging could be something to compare them on. Most of my Rogue shipments come in a standard box with one piece of parchment separating multiple parts. Both barbells I purchased recently (CB-4 and curl bar) have punched the end of the shipping tube before arriving, and the end of both of my uprights were both exposed upon arrival (one piece of tape holding the end closed). You can blame the carrier, but Rogue could also do better on their end. The Velocidor and Ghost rollers had specialized packaging, but Rep seems to be leading in that space for the few things I’ve purchased. The open trap bar was way over packaged but I prefer that to seeing the product through the box.

Rep. I have a Rogue Monster Lite and it feels like Rogue forgot about that series of racks in terms of accessories.

Kabuki vs Eleiko comparison would be cool

Love rogue. But it’s some of the stuff is super expensive which prices out the home gym buyer. The rhino is almost $4k. I would love to have it but just can’t justify. Rep has only recently become available in the country and I freakinnn love it. Will definitely get the pr5000 in the future and hopefully ares. Rogue just doesn’t compare with the slinger. Although I see that changing soon but assuming that will also be ridiculously expensive.. awesome video btw Coop! 😊

@youngcouplesparty9006

Жыл бұрын

If someone doesn't have 4k then they dont have 4k. That said, your health is literally everything and the Rhino is a lifelong piece of equipment. Easily justifiable to those who can afford it IMO.

@Garage_gym48

Жыл бұрын

@@youngcouplesparty9006 thanks for the insight.

@AnontheGOAT

4 ай бұрын

@@youngcouplesparty9006the “for the health” argument justifying dropping that kind of cash is quite a stretch lmao.

REP did me dirty with the Omni Rack - I can’t put the ARES on it so I have a grudge now - you’d think they’d design an adapter of some kind for their newest rack to be able to install the ARES on it 😡

Posting early in the video but if he doesn’t talk about it. Reps customer service in my experience is far better than rogues.

Rep rack, rogue barbell, wright and homegrown bumper plates.

Rep and titan been piecing my gym as i need things looked at rogue pricing doesn't make sense unless your making large orders at once

The gap is closing, but I can get a PR 4000 and full weight setup for less than a rogue Half Rack and weights. I know they are both good, but the shipping and prices are still a differentiator.

I m buying from Rogue Europe and I m very happy with their products and service. Top company

This is why its good that we can wait for sales to happen from each and have a gym filled with a bunch of companies.

You should add sorinex to the conversation. Would love to see how they compare

Our home gym centers around a rogue rhino in a coop squat. Slinger up top and a rogue donkey. Only rep fitness we have is camber swiss bar . Love made in usa

I have 3 items from each company but my rack is the PR4000, I am wanting the Athena

How about a review on HomeGrown lifting?

Just curious… looking at Olympic bars. I’m a weightlifting coach and would love to buy a barbell for my home gym. Ideally I’d love a rogue bar with an iwf stamp, but what is a comparable rep barbell meant for Olympic weightlifting and would it be worth it?

Couple of questions, the rep pr 1050 power rack is it a good rack? Also, can I add a pulley attachment like a lat pull down to it?

I just created a Rogue account and spent $568.64 for the Jammer Pull-up bar and and Rogue RML Cross member pull up bar. I've been eye balling both for over a year now. Money well spent.

Titan and Bells Of Steel and Texas Power. 💯

Does Rogue even market to the home gym community or aren't they mainly focused on crossfit and local gyms?

@andrewelliott4107

Жыл бұрын

All the above to be honest.

@redknight2470

Жыл бұрын

Rogue will be at HomeGymCon 2024!

CAP Barbell vs Fitness Reality vs Sunny Health. Basically, the low-cost segment.

If Rogue had anything close to the Athena and/or Ares? I would get that rack instead. I like Rogue color options better and they are bigger and beefier.

I'm a fan of both. I'll buy Rogue for some things and REP for others. Rogue, as you stated, has been around longer. Their warranty and customer service are excellent. REP is starting to kick it up a notch. I own their PR5000 w/ Ares pulley system, Open Trap Bar, and Cambered Swiss Bar. I have had to contact REP due to some QC issues. But, they have done a great job at helping me. Since you did a Rogue vs REP, what about doing a budget friendly comparison? Like Bars of Steel vs Titan?

@TheCarterHomeGym

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@user-tt3gm6vx4j seems legit

@jugjivan

Жыл бұрын

Titan > BOS in terms of quality for their average product IMO. Titan has stepped up big time in recent years for product quality. BOS > Titan for customer service. I suggest Titan fitness over BOS usually, and I am Canadian (BOS is a Canadian company whereas Titan products need to be picked up at the border).

you should review bells of steel vs titan fitness. That would be interesting.

@rahul2504

3 ай бұрын

Or titan vs rep. Titan has more accessories to offer it seems. I always keep debating between these two brands but surely lower price with promos on titan products mostly wins but if when I also bring in post sales like any price adjustment or quality/shipping concern and you dealing with their customer service later oh boy that has not always been a fun experience rather exhausting so I have been rethinking my home gym brand choice for overall peace of mind. Not sure if others have similar experience.

@Williverfit

3 ай бұрын

Rep is so much better then titan. I was thinking titan vs bells of steel idea is also a good idea since they are in the same cheap league

Can we get a hades and helios barbell review?

@GarageGymReviews

Жыл бұрын

In the works. - Coop

Rep, next question

Wish Rogue would fix their Westside benches to allow for band pegs at the proper height. As is band pegs are way too high. They had it right with the first version then blew it with the second version. Loving my Rogue z reverse hyper, squat stand, and fat pad flat bench. Also love my Rep deep knurl power bar and adjustable bench 5200. But please rogue modify the Westside benches if you can’t use bands properly on them not sure it’s really a Westside bench. I’ve emailed and begged. Anyone have a modification or solution??

Rep is the bulk of my gym Rep rack, lat pulldown system, rep bench Rogue bands, plates, shirts, barbell, collars

I am comparing Rogue to Rep for a garage rack that need not be bolted to the ground. Rep seems to be much more flexible in this regard. Is this merely a difference in risk between the two companies or are there bona fide design differences between the racks that enable the Rep racks to offer more options than Rogue in their no-bolt racks?

when I first started building out my garage, I went all Rogue because they offered free shipping if you bought a rack. So everything from them. But over the last couple of years, I buy from whoever has stock in their warehouse and won’t break the bank. So I’ve got a mixture of Rep, Titan, and Bells of Steel. I’m trying to think of the last thing I bought from Rogue.

I enjoyed this video. Would like to see a similar video in the future comparing companies / products in the budget space such as Titan vs. BOS or Fringe Sport

Really solid content. Thanks for sharing your expertise.

would be good to have a comparison between rack standards 3x3 imperial vs metric and 1 inch vs 5/8. I feel like which you go with is super important in terms of options for the future. Would love to hear your thoughts.

To me , Rogue must have an answer to the Ares , period. The slinger is not it. Until they have an answer to THAT 😬

Rogue would be my go to company. The only Rep product I would shop for would be there benches.

I think you undersold the difference with respect to plates and bars. I am not a huge Rouge fan (prefer American Barbell for bars) but their bar line up is far superior to Rep. Same for case iron plates. Rouge has so many great versions of the machined cast iron plate. Benches, on the other hand, give me Rep.