i came here looking for the magic racism, commas are important.

@lewisfitzsimmons1271

5 жыл бұрын

Right?!?! Haha

@DymondLoves

4 жыл бұрын

I cannot stop laughing at this comment

@alasanoei

4 жыл бұрын

We are going to eat grandpa! Punctuation marks save lives. 😂

@ZeroKage69

4 жыл бұрын

Did you listen? Juan thinks racism is caused by magic, thus magic racism. The grammar is correct.

@pilsung26

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

That is the purest thing I've ever heard on this show. "If I see someone that's black I'm going to apply stereotypes. They're, you know, they eat rice all the time and they're bad at driving." I love this quote.

@MeiMei...

5 жыл бұрын

I really want to steal this quote but I have no idea where it would even fit as a joke cause it's so broken :'D

@allim.5941

5 жыл бұрын

That quote sounds like they’re talking stereotypical about an Asian person.

@davidstorrs

4 жыл бұрын

@@allim.5941 That was the point. The punchline was "I get my racism confused."

@VestigialHead

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidstorrs Yes it was definitely an example of razy lacism.

You guys are really patient, I could never have done this. I'd burst out laughing the moment the 'vibes' and warlocks turned out not to be a metaphor but actual magical happenings.

@suavewolf1

6 жыл бұрын

Nocturnalux we did! Lol -Eric

@Nocturnalux

6 жыл бұрын

Heh, but you guys managed to pull yourselves together and actually talk in a sensible way, somehow. In your shoes I would have died laughing.

@DrPommels

5 жыл бұрын

and that was just the beginning.....

The sheer joy on Jamie’s face @ 20:54 makes me as happy as the idea of wizards working for Bayer makes him.

i think this guy hears voices and he has to start taking his meds again.

@markmehlhorn2836

3 жыл бұрын

Voices in his head- YOU can walk on water when it freezes.

WHOOOAAAAOOOW. I think this is the most I have laughed at talked heathen, atheist experience etc yet. Wiping tears away here.

This is a well handled call. Jamie and Eric demonstrate a great ability to move conversation along without it becoming shit slinging. That’s not easy to do.

Thank you for that mental image of 'Wizards in a lab' somewhere making my medication 😂😂😂

These two are having so much fun

14:11 the look of childlike delight on Eric's face is amazing.

Sounds like he just came from medieval times, I wonder what he thinks about iPhones and how they work

@MeiMei...

5 жыл бұрын

witchcraft of the highest level, duuuh

@ParanormalEncyclopedia

5 жыл бұрын

Almost mei mei its actually imps... why do you think its called an IIIIIII phone? And no im NOT serious.

@ingloriousbetch4302

4 жыл бұрын

What about magnets? How do they work? 😉

@johnd.shultz7423

4 жыл бұрын

@@ingloriousbetch4302 Its mostly done by elves....

Poor guy has a terrible understanding of the difference between evidence and experience

I'm convinced that "Juan" is actually Thomas from Atlanta Georgia

@johnd.shultz7423

4 жыл бұрын

Yes his approuch,views seem identical.

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnd.shultz7423 called back with eric and tracie. had what tracie called good, positive call. he listened, acknowledged. So... (of course MarkofAustinStone seemed to learn, so poes may do that.)

Hey you guys are so great - just love your shows. I want to add something. This is about 'Faith' and 'Belief'. I am a retired Army officer so my story is related to my experiences. So I have faith in a weapon or some kind of war fighting method which have worked well in the past. But things go horribly wrong. It happens because the other guys have invented better weapons and methods! So we lose faith about our own systems. That is why 'Faith' is good. It gives us space to change. 'Belief' is dangerous. The Cavalry was considered the ultimate weapon to defeat the enemy. It was a belief. During the First World War large numbers of Allied Cavalrymen were shot down by German machine gunners. The Allied Commanders said that the use of machine guns against horses was unfair. They believed that their horsemen would win but please do not use machine guns. That is why 'Belief' is dangerous. It allows one to take decisions without reason!

Also it makes me very sad to hear people laugh at a person who is that confused, this is what religion can do to people especially when the real world collides with what they were indoctrinated with. I have seen people become stuck in this confused state for years before they could fight their way out of it. Thank you Jamie for being so patient and sweet, I understand that not everybody can be that way but they could also not laugh at a person who is in genuine distress.

Listening to this caller (and so many others) makes me fear for the future in so many ways. You guys are up against overwhelming odds.

That's because people put out subtle hints via how they speak via, tone, pacing, volume at which they speak, etc, which can be picked up even when talking on the phone, listening to a voice mail, etc. Likewise, we have the ability to pick up on other people's, body language, facial expressions, etc, none of which has to do with the supernatural.

@professorariel

6 жыл бұрын

acceptjesusorburn I don't get any of those clues; any of those vibes, and I got an answer for that: I'm autistic. It's all chemicals in my brain. Or does the supernatural care about ASD folks?

@jameswest8280

5 жыл бұрын

Aww, did we get our little feelings hurt?

@teresaamanfu7408

5 жыл бұрын

acceptjesusorburn That explains how you think.

@DymondLoves

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation!

@VestigialHead

4 жыл бұрын

@acceptjesusorburn That may be the case. But the people that think they have had a supernatural experience have NOT actually had a supernatural experience. It is simply a case of they cannot explain what they saw or experienced so instead of saying I do not know what that was and seeking answers they just assign a supernatural cause. Every supernatural claim that has been properly investigated has been found to have been natural. So the problem is one of people not being confident enough to simple say I do not know.

Probably the best phone call I have heard... EVER!!! The amount of happiness Eric was feeling in this call is and forever will be priceless 😂

The second they asked "Juan" if he could call in next week and he went a little vague and non committal, I just pictured him not knowing if matron would be away from her desk long enough again to let him sneak to use the ward phone or not. Lol 🤣

The caller literally has no critical thinking skills. Nope, nein, nada. What he wants to believe, he believes without thinking; what he finds uncomfortable to believe, he sweeps them aside despite empirical evidence. It's no use talking to this type of person; you might as well talk to a donkey.

This caller demonstrates the dangers belief and faith, the further down the magical thinking rabbit hole you travel; the more removed from reality you become. In as much the greater degree to which one believes in a higher power, the greater degree to which they will believe almost anything, so to exists a correlation between the belief in malevolent supernatural beings or forces, such as Satan coincide with a willingness to believe almost anything. Part of this is due to us humans being pattern seeking beings, that will often accept a wrong pattern over no pattern, another aspect is a desire to feel important, that one has special knowledge beyond the grasp of their fellow humans, a desire to feel important and or special. If such beliefs were benign and thus having no impact other then to oneself, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Sadly, the faithful have not only proven they are willing to abandon and reject their loved ones, simply because their faith tells them their loved one's, adoption of a different denomination or religion, letting go of their religious belief, having accepted their sexuality, etc, are evil deeds. The faithful are often quick to point out the hypocrisy of every other religious view, but their own; siting their own as the one true faith. The fact we have millions of Christians cheering the establishment of a US Embassy in Jerusalem, not due to it heralding in a new era of peace between Israel and Palestine, but instead as a sign Jerusalem and thus Israel will soon fall so as to call forth the second coming of Jesus, in spite of the fact Jesus himself said he would return within a generation. When you have millions praying for such devastation and loss of human life, you can't say religious belief isn't what is holding back the social development of humanity.

6 жыл бұрын

I guess you think the world is flat and that germs dont exist?

@VestigialHead

4 жыл бұрын

@acceptjesusorburn Naturalism? Naturalism is just a term speaking of natural things and events - it cannot be false. We see natural things all the time. So how could they be false? If you do not think a tree or a rock is naturally occurring then you need to go back to primary school.

I went to a Grateful Dead concert and it looked to me like everyone was having a great time, what a great “vibe”. Then I saw a jackass groping a woman in the crowd who was clearly upset about it. Later, I saw a guy sitting semi-conscious in a puddle of his own vomit. Does anyone think the “vibe” was the same for those 2 individuals? “Vibe” is our own personal interpretation of an experience. You can be in a room full of thousands of happy people and yet there is still fear, pain and misery. Case closed.

You both showed so much compassion for this guy. Respect to you.

When you get high and talk in metaphors.. to the point where you don’t know whats real anymore..... Although I agree that figuratively speaking, the effects of a good orator can possibly be like enchantment on people’s minds.

"Are you free next week?" *wink*

Absolutely no way I could have kept a straight face.

I've only found two Juan clips, but if he calls back again, maybe try and suss out if he believes reality and metaphor are interchangeable. He expresses the sentiment that something described as "enchanting" or being "under a spell" means that there is an enchanter/spell caster, for instance. A lot of conspiracy types do this "deduction by thesaurus" process (God is love, love is blind, Ray Charles is blind, Ray Charles is god). because they mistake words for the things they represent.

Eric is adorable. I like how patient they were. I used to believe all that stuff like this guy cause my granny told me it was real. To hear it come from someone else makes me see how insane it sounds! This is one of my favorite episodes because they were so patient. I cant say I would've had the ability to really listen to his "reasoning"...ijs

The word “pharmacy” doesn’t come from the Greek word for “sorcery”.

@VestigialHead

4 жыл бұрын

+ S troller Hahaha nice catch.

@johnd.shultz7423

4 жыл бұрын

Pharmakopeia? substances that aid in healing...

@chestercopperbottom

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnd.shultz7423 Almost. Pharmakopeia simply means "medicine", but it's derived from pharmakon, which can mean "spell" or "concoction" of the magical variety. I knew studying classical Greek would come in handy some day 😆

@yo-Rowe

3 жыл бұрын

You are right but the terms are tied through the origin of the word medicine. BUT the Wicans and witches who practiced using herbs and other elixirs for healing in early pharmaceutical discovery were naturalists testing and using chemistry. It was the ignorant theists that labelled them black magic for daring to do a better job than prayer to god. They did the same thing when they accused atheists of being satanists. They become unhinged by sharp skeptical minds that have the curiosity to probe how the world works because it threatens their delusional world view.

@missz9241

2 жыл бұрын

omg Shrek 2 the scence at fairy godmother factory must be the way he think drug. are made her on earth

Absolutely my favorite show so far

This caller demonstrates the dangers belief and faith

I love you guys. Keep up the good work.

Best call ever!!!

I feel like I've heard this guy before talking that pharmacy bit with Tracy on AXA

@johnmorris2170

5 жыл бұрын

Yes you have. He suffers from schizophrenia. One clear indicator of the disorder is magical thinking.

This is better than SNL

My girlfriend told me that she was disappointed because she thought I was more open-minded. You know what she was disappointed that I didn't believe? Magic. This is actually not uncommon thinking at all, and that's scary. I meet loads of people who believe in witchcraft, voodoo, ghosts, fortune tellers, astrology, etc... My girlfriend believes in all of those but not God, while I believe in none of those. It's hard for me to grasp how someone could genuinely believe these things while having no evidence that they're real, she believes a ghost story her friend told her where big X's showed up on an old family photo when IT'S NOT POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE COULD'VE TOUCHED IT.... When obviously it either was touched, or the entire story is false. I am told that I'm not open-minded all the time over things like this.

This conversation made my brain hurt

The vibe in the room is from the sub woofer.

Eric and Jamie are so cool😍😘

"Good vibes" = "WITCHES" Edit: I wrote this comment before he started bringing up sorcery. Holy shit.

Great call. :)

The big pharma wizards wear lab coats so people aren't put off by wizard robes.

@DymondLoves

4 жыл бұрын

Hilarious!

@ricardovonkrypton8908

4 жыл бұрын

"Who, me? No, I need this pointy hat. Yes, and the wand. For science."

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I just can't even. I commend you both for talking with him I would have gotten frustrated long before. Or maybe my brain would have just shut down.

aww... Eric is so happy

I think Juan underestimates how good people are at picking up on nonverbal cues.

I really don't know if I want this to be fake or not. Do I actually want to live in this guy wizarding world? I really cannot say.

@suavewolf1

6 жыл бұрын

estp23010 I want it to be real soooooo bad! I want to live in that world! -Eric

"Magic Racism" uh, yep. gonna be watching this one.

With all do respect, can we call him Onion Man? There are so many layers.

@TheChrisLeone

4 жыл бұрын

*due

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

Spaaaaace Caaaaake ================= can have layers ================= separated by Frosting

This is the best episode ever! And plaid is pretty bad in most circumstances. Either you have to go all out, or not at all.

Eric's face is the best.

Eric has a really nice voice. It has a nice timbre and sound quality to it. It's pleasant and easy to listen to. He would be great at voice over, or radio/podcast, announcer, or anything else that calls for spoken word. Does anyone know if he does something like that for a job? I mean, he'd be set for life if he went into that business.

@MrBofinn

4 жыл бұрын

I want to listen to a Warhammer 40k audiobook narrated by Eric Murphy.

"General knowledge about the world around us slams you enough" Ouch!! That line make me laugh and feel so sorry for this guy at the same time.

You were very ..... 'kind' to this poor caller.

for the love of your god.. please stop saying 'scientifical' :p

@gitbuckets

5 жыл бұрын

That was pissing me off so bad that he kept saying that.

@carnivorehitman

4 жыл бұрын

This clip was brutal in that respect. The caller said what you noted, and also „aksed“ instead of „asked“. And Jaimy said „ec cectera“ instead of „et cetera“. Drives me fucking bonkers

25:36 I can't get over Jamie's reaction XD

I got a vibe that Eric is bopping to The Mighty Mighty Bosstones at the 16 minute mark. I would say gawd told me it but Dickie doesn't speak to me.

"I believe in the Bible but I'm not a Christian." That would probably be the slickest attempt to dodge, however, I've heard it before. It was from someone who was a member of the "Victory Christian Fellowship." LMAO

I love these guys. Funny as shit

Plaid is my favourite color.

I was going to leave a comment on the obvious lack of comma between magic and racism. Then I watched the video and was made the fool.

@tawdryhepburn4686

5 жыл бұрын

Most lakes are very obvious, otherwise they’d be puddles.

@andrewkruse7899

5 жыл бұрын

@@tawdryhepburn4686 goddamn it XD

@tawdryhepburn4686

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Kruse sorry, I couldn’t resist.

@andrewkruse7899

5 жыл бұрын

@@tawdryhepburn4686 all good. I couldn't find my mistake until you posted that.

Holly... wood! AMAZING!!!

I was planning on getting high tonight, but this call is so trippy that I don't have to!

May I add that a certain part of communication is non verbal. It is the source of the vibe you feel with a person. It is subliminal. Felt not thought

I would like to hear Matt talk to this guy..

{also} How soon would Matt have hung up on this guy I wonder?? I love this episode, it was so worth it for the second half xD I've never seen Jamie and Eric so mind blown

I believe Our actions have consequences when we realize these consequences and do our best not to repeat them we can make the world a better place. And I believe for the people who think the consequences aren't there or aren't important we can assess those sad consequences with reality and the reason for those objections and determine whether or not the choice they made was the least consequential choice possible to make and if not why choose that action over the one that might be less consequential?

I live in Dallas, TX... holy shit.

I really want to see if I'm strong enough to drop acid, listen to this dude talk, and come back to reality after the trip.

Must have really hard not to burst laughing

As a God, you may and can observe anything you like

Yet a few weeks later. Eric and Tracie. And, as I recall, Juan had 5+ "huh. that's a good point" with Tracie.

Vibes are your senses working. We don't only have 5 and you can pick up on them with other senses you're not aware of.

@richiejohnson

4 жыл бұрын

Stephanie Conley no, you do not have senses you aren't aware of. You do not have any God Detector, nor do I. You're just going to have to live in the one reality there is .

@stephanieconley3234

4 жыл бұрын

@@richiejohnson I do live in the reality we live in. I didn't say shit about a god being in it. Tell me how you hear or taste or see pressure or temperature. You can't, we have more than 5 senses. But thanks for your input

It would be funny to see Eric and Jamie try to “fight” one another. 😂

This caller has found a supernatural rationalisation for Racism

You werent aggressive enough in this case I think. You should have interjected at each point he said "enchant" or "spell" or "cast" when those are clearly unnecessary words for "information" or "propaganda" and so on.

@AGrayPhantom

6 жыл бұрын

You miss the point. It's extremely difficult to reason with a crazy person, and Juan comes across as crazy. For example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6GczrOSobmXfJM.html Gene Ray came up with a "theory" known as Time Cube. It's utter nonsense, but he was still invited to speak at colleges on the subject. There were students who tried to debate him, but only made themselves look like bullies.

I miss the interaction between Eric and Jamie.

Some people are so far out its fun to hang out with them.....

@johnd.shultz7423

3 жыл бұрын

until they start hating you for being rational and not supporting their latest conspiracy theories or magical thinking conclusions they never move past,

Good conversation. However, I'm in London and I have no idea what plad is. You think plad is awesome? What is plad?

@thehiddenpaw3514

5 жыл бұрын

Think tartan. Scottish plaids...

Seriously is anybody else CONSTANTLY getting Christian movie/tv show advertisements in Talk Heathen and the Atheist Experience videos? Are we being pranked?

@MrBofinn

4 жыл бұрын

I think the algorithm groups it all together under 'religious,' regardless of whether the specific content is for or against.

Did this guy call back? I really need to hear more

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. With eric and tracie. A week or 3 later.

This guy must have just seen In Gramps' Shoes. It's a wonderful movie that premiered on YT in 2014, and shows the dangers of Harry Potter.

Ok... Honestly... I can agree with this guy that Vicodin is indeed magical. :D

@tonynatera

5 жыл бұрын

So is Lysergic acid diethylamide

@DymondLoves

4 жыл бұрын

I laughed out loud!

I think I would just tell him I reject his definition of magic.

This guy said he’s not a Christian, then later he said the lord walked on water. Hm. Screwball.

@MrBofinn

4 жыл бұрын

He's probably one of those 'personal relationship with Jesus' guys. The equivocation is strong with them.

Guys I don't know exactly how mental health care works in the USA, but, as we see often on this show there are people that are not just strong believers but that without joke seriously need professional help. In some cases you should consider them to point in that direction for their own good, it's not less serious than any terminal desease.

@huckthatdish

5 жыл бұрын

MasterPJ86 it basically just costs an arm and a leg. Even if you have what is considered decent insurance here, seeking even minor psychological help will cost quite a bit. I’m in a better spot financially now, but I neglected my own mental health out of financial necessity before.

@MasterPJ86

5 жыл бұрын

@@huckthatdish that's really bad man, sorry to hear that. You mean there is no insurance for this kind of treatment? Sorry for the ignorance, I live in Europe and I don't hear too often about the internal laws in the USA. But I thought the "Obama care" made some progress in this kind of things...

@huckthatdish

5 жыл бұрын

MasterPJ86 there is, but a lot of people’s insurance either doesn’t include it or has very high deductibles.

They let him get away with arguing “pharmacies are magic” and “tv is spellcasting” and never even said “anything can mean anything if you’re defining magic like this.” THATS NOT WHATS MEANT BY MAGIC! That’s aaaaaaall they had to say! They giggled and went down smug tangents and never even made the counterpoint effectively. “Are you saying racism transcends space and time” “Yes” AND THEY NEVER EVEN REBUTTED!!!

@somewhatinformed1208

4 жыл бұрын

It was called television programming for a reason.

@marial4707

3 жыл бұрын

That’s only because Juan was jumping from one weird “belief “ to another....there was sooooo many wacky statements to reply to!! That’s why they asked him to call back. Voices! Spells! Vibes! Majic! Even I couldn’t keep up the the crazy that is Juan! Truly a piñata of religious magical thinking based on no scientific evidence whatsoever. As far as magic, again no scientific evidence, falls under the rules of replicating an experiment exactly every time with the same outcome. So bring the magic and replicate the “spell” by you then replicate it by others exactly as you have multiple times WITH THE VERY SAME OUTCOME. That’s evidence, that’s proof. And if others replicated that spell EXACTLY and gets a different outcome, that just proves it’s a religious belief system not real scientific proof it’s real. Example of this is this equation ( or magical spell for others?) NaHCO3 + HC2H3O2 → NaC2H3O2 + H2O + CO2. CO2 gas is produced EVERY TIME. It can be replicated on every continent on the planet. Please provide a magical spell that can be replicated every time by anyone on any place on the planet with EXACTLY the same result. THAT would be the greatest find of a lifetime. But I digress, Juan just had too many seriously off the charts and when challenged, he could not provide any cognitive argument to substantiate his “theory”. What a piñata!!

That poor old man. He is way out on that Hotep trip. I hope he gets help.

oookay...things are out of control here...

The "vibe" he talks about is your conscious understanding of millions of unconscious inputs and emotional processes. You're not picking up some supernatural energy. You're unconsciously examining everything and coming to conclusions.

I really think you guys need to have a psychologist on standby 🤔

The Bible is also full of good things, like the Golden Rule, The Good Samaritan, and "love your neighbor as you love yourself", and blessed are the peacemakers.

@giorgiol77

4 жыл бұрын

Spiderman is also full of good things, like “with great power comes great responsibility”, “be yourself” and “always smile”.

@devb9912

3 жыл бұрын

@@giorgiol77 and "damn, I ran out of webfluid!" (which MUST be insightful in some way)

@giorgiol77

3 жыл бұрын

Dev B Agreed!!! LOL!

Considering the fact that witchcraft is punishable by death in the bible, I'm extremely scared by the prospect that this man thinks pharmaceuticals fall under that category

Winguardium leviosa!!

Peter also walked on water, but because his faith wasn't strong enough, he started to sink. I think that is a lesson for all of us. You must exercise your faith to strengthen it. If you have enough faith, you could get your dog to recite poetry. Or fly to the moon by flapping your arms.

@tedgrant2

4 жыл бұрын

@Glenn Heston I've seen that video. I found it very convincing and entertaining. However, it did rely on modern plastics to create the effect. I don't think Jesus and Peter had access to techmology.

@tedgrant2

4 жыл бұрын

@Glenn Heston That is a very good solution to a lot of problems. Perhaps we could start a new religion and worship time travellers. It would explain the amazing accuracy of the pyramids and the flag on the moon.

@tedgrant2

4 жыл бұрын

@Glenn Heston Billions.

@tedgrant2

4 жыл бұрын

@Glenn Heston I bet they had great fun pulling the wool over the eyes of the sheep. Talking snake, talking donkey, walking on water. "Why is your girlfriend with child ?" asked Matthew. "An angel did it ! " replied Joseph. "They'll never believe that !" sad Mark. " You want to bet on that ? " said Luke.

Another word for vibe would be mood. The mood of the crowd was positive. For example.

@donfette5301

13 күн бұрын

Just use vibe. It’s super clear and specific. Mood doesn’t always mean same thing as vibe.

Sometimes when there is a more than 30 point swing in brain power they talk right over his head .

Dude said he has "Scientifical" Evidence X D

Amazing that people can be so bereft of education and think that hearing voices in your head is a good thing. It is a sign of mental problems. No matter what the voices are saying it is not a good thing. This is different then your own voice in your head. For instance if I count things I will count in my head or if I think about things I hear my own voice stating things or pondering and questioning things. This is not hearing voices in your head. This is simply internalising.

At 20:55 😂😂

"The bible is full of horrible things" "Like what?" "genocide" "Ok what about America tho?" "um.. what?" "What about Thanksgiving?" "........" "yOu ArE tRyINg tO tRAp mE" XD I fucking can't.......