Determine if a Holy Book Is Reliable | Rob - Long Island, NY | Talk Heathen 02.51
Talk Heathen 02.51 for December 23, 2018 with Eric Murphy & Jamie Boone.
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Robb is either a troll or he’s clinically insane. I’m not buy8ng for 1 second that someone from NYC never heard of Spider-Man.
@jeremymeek471
5 жыл бұрын
This is a Long Island accent. I can guarantee this guy does not live in the city lol.
@channalmath8628
5 жыл бұрын
sarcasm i hope
@trejt
5 жыл бұрын
I think he is just pretending about Spiderman, just not accepting a point he doesn't understand
@Celticshade
5 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure he even understood the spider man reference last time he called in.
@VestigialHead
4 жыл бұрын
@@Celticshade Oh what a web of lies Robb is weaving.
Man Rob understands that if he answers a question at all he will loose the argument! So frustrating lol
I remember Rob from the atheist experience. He is less productive to talk to than a wall because he seems to have the memory and understanding of a goldfish.
@SoChilledOutGuy
4 жыл бұрын
MrSubsound90 Hey that’s not fair... goldfish have actually good memory.
@chriscutler7373
4 жыл бұрын
As if any religious person is different
@cush6827
3 жыл бұрын
Well, he is US-American. He is the product of 300 years of failed education systems. He is dirt. No need to insult goldfish.
@sweetsour4375
3 жыл бұрын
@@cush6827 So are Jamie and Eric. Being from the US doesn't guarantee stupidity.
@cush6827
3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetsour4375 Our assessments of Jamie and Eric differ substantially. From my perspective these two are only marginally smarter than the caller.
Eric's all grown up! Stopping a bad line of reasoning cold instead of allowing the believer to rant. Good for you!
@user-gb7ji6xy5d
5 жыл бұрын
True. His skills have been perfected, now he's officially classified as one of the Matt-pups!
@The1980Philip
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-gb7ji6xy5d No, unfortunately they relapsed back into their old ways in 2019.
@user-gb7ji6xy5d
5 жыл бұрын
@@The1980Philip wut?!
@The1980Philip
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-gb7ji6xy5d Yep.
"But if you don't let me use my fallacies i got nothing" yeah that's why we dont let you use them
Holy shite! I didn't think it was possible to make Eric angry! I'm so happy to have witnessed a proper Bible shredding. The call was frustrating, but that was beautiful
@AcidHatchet
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Absolutely beautiful. Had me tearing up 😢
No excuse for willful ignorance. The caller is a prime example of that.
Eric rips a page out of the bible: "This bible is now better than it was a second ago" That should be on a t shirt.
And Rob claimed to be an expert on the Bible but he had to be pointed to the verses.
@krisaaron5771
4 жыл бұрын
Rob sounds like someone who has been stoned... and still is.
Abandon all hope. This man is beyond the point of return. He's gone. He's an ex thinker. His logic is no more. He is bereft of thought
@teresaamanfu7408
Жыл бұрын
The brain, on religion!😢
@scottc1857
7 ай бұрын
He's both a boomer AND religious that's like arrogance and thoughtlessness squared.
@steveanton763
6 ай бұрын
His thinking has joined the choir invisible.
@CeezGeez
2 ай бұрын
yeah he’s too far gone. i’m baffled he is even able to function within society
"Who's Spiderman? A comic book character? Is he- Spiderman's his name?" 👋 😶💥👈
Wow. When Eric tore up that bible, I got chills. Well done!
I like how he teared up the bible it was so satisfying and fullfilling
The caller never even addresses Jamie's questions.....the caller is absolutely crazy in his reasoning and logic....
@elsadolan3962
3 жыл бұрын
What reasoning and logic? 🤣
He said "God has multiple personalities". Umbilieveable!!!
"That is the thesis of this entire conversation, Rob, do you get that? - "I don't know but it's true". Nailed it.
This is so frustrating.... Rob is not listening, not even trying.
@kaybikerow
5 жыл бұрын
It's as if his brain failed to fully load the logic subroutines during startup.
@Arkloyd
5 жыл бұрын
I noticed he didn't like to answer the questions meant to make him think… If I thought he was dishonest, I would say he was actively dodging…
@aprilknight9240
5 жыл бұрын
I think he’s listening, but he’s too stupid to comprehend the question while simultaneously thinking he’s intelligent so he goes off on tangents thinking he’s being brainy. He’s really just a moron who I think reads a lot but doesn’t comprehend what he’s read.
@blulumwaquepajoo7158
5 жыл бұрын
This guy is a troll.....who’s spider man? 🙄
@savantus1
5 жыл бұрын
He listens fine, he just does not care about being truthful.
I love it, Eric! Tear it up! "The bible gets better the more pages you tear out!" I'm cheering from here
I liked the well timed facepalm background.
This man Rob is a professional time waster.
@elsadolan3962
3 жыл бұрын
“If you let someone waste your time for five minutes, three of those minutes were your fault.”
At 13 mins and decided I didn't wanna waste another half hr. What a poe
@marlonthomas8042
5 жыл бұрын
Roses are Red yeah pretty much same point I got to
@rosiebanks5618
5 жыл бұрын
I get they're trying to be more patient etc than say matt on AE. But this Is such a waste of time. He doesnt give a crap. I feel like they need to be a little stricter with the guests when they say bullshit.
It's like he's answering questions from a different show completely.
Soooooo frustrating! I love that Eric tore pages out to make a perfect example of what people all need to do with ALL religion. Go Eric!
I love Eric! He says "Rob's reasoning is ass-backwards." So true, and that statement just sums up religious believers.
Not sure what bit i like more......Eric starting to 'bark' at Rob.....or the face of Jamie when that happens, a real amused 'oh snap, he's going in for the kill now!' stare. xD
this guy is gonna be february in my cognitive dissonance calendar.
@iancastor69
3 жыл бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
@jaydinledford6990
Жыл бұрын
No cap I'd buy one
I have honestly never heard such an obtuse caller on ANY atheist show. And that includes every caller on AXP
Eric, personally, I would have thrown the pieces of the book into the fireplace.
The more I listen to these calls, the more I become convinced that some people are simply not intelligent enough to have productive conversations with.
Oh Rob Rob Rob... You make me sad for Humanity
A few months ago I was hospitalized with a terrible infection, kidney stones and an incarcerated hernia. I underwent three surgeries, one of which was done without anesthesia (the doctor used a probe to go up through my urethra, through my bladder and into my ureter to remove the stent he'd put there). That was the *second* most painful experience of my life. I'm not done watching this video, so the *most* painful experience isn't over yet.
...Let me get this straight, Rob: the "pinnacle of God's creation" is a book, and books are a human invention not created by any God... I see... Nurse!
@shatishprasadjaiswal5629
5 жыл бұрын
Wooow
@iancastor69
3 жыл бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣
This was the best segment ever uploaded. Way to go Eric especially.
Your patience, Jamie and Eric, borders on divine. If I were you, I would tear my hair out and run away screaming.
So close. For a second there, I thought he had it. He seemed to have grasped the basic concept, but then it just slipped through his fingers
Thomas Jefferson made his own bible by taking out what he did not agree with and keeping and compiling the verses he agreed with. It's called The Jeffersonian Bible.
@kenbee1957
4 жыл бұрын
It has three pages? Two of them covers
@BudgetFilmmaking
4 жыл бұрын
The third, of course, is the fly leaf.
@phillipseifert694
3 жыл бұрын
He only took out the supernatural aspects of the Bible He left the rest rather he agreed or not
Rob is wriggling like a worm on a hook to get out of addressing the questions. He knows what he's being asked and desperate not to answer!
@coolcatcass10
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t even know if he knows what he’s been asked honestly, not sure if he knows what’s going on here
There is no way Matt Dillahunty would of talked to this guy for this long.
Anyone the age of the caller that pretends to not know Spider-Man is a bit of a troll.
Well done guys, teaching ways to be skeptical with so much patience. I appreciate that you guys hold onto callers a little longer to take the extra time to teach and plant seeds of doubt.
The devil horns at 28:30 were a nice touch.
Now, that was wild. Once again, both of you are extraordinary in your patience, and ability to maintain your composure. I could see the cracks forming. But even upon breaking, it was a controlled demolition. Magnificent.
Listen to the words of the song "Imagine" by John Lennon.
@dylancoleman1921
3 жыл бұрын
Anarchy!!!
Wow. Never seen Eric get that frustrated before. I do understand that frustration though as Rob is so brainwashed it really isn't funny, it's scary actually. I was the same way before I finally took the blinders off. He will hopefully soon too.
I love how Rob is digging a hole for his religion so other doubters are even more confused and turned down by his reasoning
I'm placing my bets on this guy being a troll. I wouldn't care if the discussion were interesting but at this point there's nothing of value coming from the conversation.
@elgar104
5 жыл бұрын
I wish oh how i wish he were a troll. But he's not. I meet such minds in droves every single day on this planet.
@eleSDSU
5 жыл бұрын
This asshole has called the show more than once and is always the same, they shouldn't have given this guy more than 10s of air-time.
@tedgrant2
5 жыл бұрын
Other than amusement.
@johnmorris2170
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. His voice I recognize. He is a known troll.
The Bible specifies a number of gods - Marduk and Baal being two.
@blatherskite3009
5 жыл бұрын
True. Even if we assume that these "other gods" are only mentioned as examples of "false gods" popular at the time, it's Biblical acknowledgement that humans tend to invent and promote bogus gods ... which is an interesting tactic in a book that's doing exactly that.
Love the show, keep up good work. 9:48 background change - priceless! :D
I appreciate that Jamie shows up in such nice attire. Represent
Wow, these two guys have a impressive amount of patience with some these callers, good on them
Gotta dig Jamie's "Sunday go to meetin'" get-up. Really classes up the joint like a modern day Elmer Gantry, without all of the hypocritical, cynical sensationalism. Did the individual who is responsible for dispensing meds at Rob's facility miss a shift?
One of the best episodes ever! Well done guys.
What a MASTERPIECE! You boys are awesome! Great finale Eric!
This was a waste of your time and ours.
@Boris99999
5 жыл бұрын
I disagree! This is a great example of how not to construct your arguments for god!)
@robertallan6373
5 жыл бұрын
@Amy Xoxo I agree totally.
@StephenButlerOne
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, he was boring as fuck. Usally these fools are entertaining. This guy was just dense.
Excellent job at trying to walk this caller through to a logical conclusion, Jaime.
29:41 *Caller:* _"Stoning a kid to death" means yelling at them till they cry_
@stevewebber707
5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for him to claim it meant giving them a drug overdose.
A marshmallow on a stick is a tool, but it's not gonna work as a hammer.
"Is that a satisfying answer?" No, it's a quite moronic answer... It's a hard task deconstructing religious convictions with logic.. for all logic is abandoned when becoming religious in this way of literally and blindly following scriptures.
The BEST Eric Murphy EVER!!! Loved this episode.
Can two contradictory positions be held at the same time? Yes *click* That is how the conversation should have gone...
Their amount of patience is honestly goals. I'd rather get my teeth pulled than argue with this caller for more than a few minutes.
That was frustrating to sit through, but so worth it to see Eric rip up a bible!
Spades, hoes and hammers are great tools, but the reason you need to have more tools in your toolbox is that sometimes you need to replace a pane of glass, and those are not appropriate tools for that job.
When it comes to patience, Jamie is the GOAT.
Jamie is so patient. He’d be great at giving directions
I like listening to Rob because he has an interesting voice.
Your patience in persisting with this guy is ASTOUNDING
I give you guys soooo much credit for putting up with this nonsense. I wish I had your patience.
35:37 Wow, that was so cool
Rob is the reason Religion will NEVER die!!!
Jaime you have the patience of a cat on the hunt. It is awe inspiring to see.
This is the most intense call I've seen so far. Holy crap.
This conversation hurts.
Jamie’s face when the caller says, “If you could suck all the religions off the world,” is priceless😂
Damn, Eric got sooo pissed! Love it! :D
Jell-o is easier to nail to the wall than getting Rob to answer a direct "Yes/No" question.
This guy knows how to non-debate. He knows how to focus on an irrelevancy and start obsessing over it. He knows how to "misunderstand" terms. I'm sure this guy drives his poor wife crazy.
24:41 "God has multiple personalities", there's medication for that! So his god is schizophrenic?
@AcidHatchet
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. So he's following a mentally ill person!!??
@iancastor69
3 жыл бұрын
Based on the Holly babble, he'd have to be.
The Spaceballs giant vacuum background is hilarious!! 10:00
The fact that he didn't "know" Spider-Man shows one of two things: 1) He is that out of touch due to his own self-induced ignorance Or 2) He just wanted to be "right." Evidence and Logic be damned.
Kinda reminds me of a coworker I used to have who claimed that none of the holy books of the religions that aren't his are holy. As a non-believer, I find all religions equally absurd, so I give all believers equal footing and respect their personal make-believe. When he said that the Quran was not holy, I went into this argument with him that lasted days, since a Muslim would definitely find the Quran very holy. Holier than a Jew finds his own bible.
A plain background would be less distracting.
There is NOTHING HOLY ABOUT THE BIBLE.
It is a shame that many people spend most of their lives not putting much though into analyzing and criticizing their beliefs and world view
This caller is always A recurring classic
I still believe he is Victor from new York.
@orionred2489
5 жыл бұрын
I disagree. That guy (Victor/Wotan) has a MUCH smaller voice at a higher register.
@DJ-ov2it
5 жыл бұрын
@@orionred2489 Pretty sure Darren was joking.
@orionred2489
5 жыл бұрын
@@DJ-ov2it ah. ..
@VestigialHead
4 жыл бұрын
+ Darren Bonner I am pretty sure he is actually spiderman. That is why he tried to throw the panel off his scent by asking who that was.
Jamie is great! Really miss him on air.
29:15 best interpretation of stoning, love this
Epic performance, Eric.
Holy shit. You guys are angels of patience
Eric is my hero
Rob doesn't realize that he's actually a powerful device for deconversion. As frustrating as he is, he's very valuable.
I am betting this may be the first time this guy has been encouraged to think logically and critically about religious stuff
29:03 This moment made my week.
35:27-35:49 Eric is now one of my heroes
Lol he can fill all the holes
@funkyd3321
5 жыл бұрын
He obviously CAN fill all the holes. Filled with bullshit, but filled.
@righthandofdoom77
5 жыл бұрын
Which would get him stoned to death according to Leviticus.
@corberus3119
5 жыл бұрын
he should start with the ones in his head
@iancastor69
3 жыл бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣 Well, he filled up his own ass hole, apparently he uses his head.
@30:24 hahaha nice erik dude!
Eric with the power play
I cant tell if he's activly avoiding questions or if he doesnt understand them... or possibly not understand how to give an answer
@lucifers.morningstar3805
4 жыл бұрын
He is actively avoiding answering the questions because of the fact that's he cannot.
@AcidHatchet
4 жыл бұрын
All of the above... At the same time lol
gotta love rob