It's really awesome that you had enough humbleness to realize what you were seeing when you went down the Jordan Rabbit hole. Respect. Jordan is a whole other animal, James has nothing for him.

@Jo.MeL95

7 ай бұрын

To say that LeBron isn’t even comparable is crazy

@HYB1111

7 ай бұрын

​@@Jo.MeL95Statistically it might be possible to TRY and argue. But in regrds to winning and gameplay. Its not close

@Jo.MeL95

7 ай бұрын

@@HYB1111 winning yes for sure Mike did more when it comes to championships. But in gameplay LeBron was arguably better , and if not better definitely on a similar level , especially when looking at the numbers across the board

@HYB1111

7 ай бұрын

@y0y0320 Again, you're talking about numbers. I said statistically he MIGHT have an ARGUMENT. But then it's which numbers you're talking about. I don't see a definite in anything. In game play, I don't see Lebron having a chance

@alonso21100

7 ай бұрын

Dame straight

He didn't mention the fact that the rule changes took the big men out of the paint. It's easier to score now and nobody has had a 3000 point season today like Mike did.

@danielleparra4800

7 ай бұрын

They like to pick and choose. Like people at church lol

@MillsOnWheels

7 ай бұрын

this is nonsense players shoot higher uncontested fieldgoal percentages by double didgit numbers... read that again... uncontested fieldgoals are shot at a double digit clip players are BY far better shooters guys are just more skilled in a wider spectrum. the league has BY FAR more parity... there in the 90s there were 7-10 guys who could put up a 40 point game... today there are easily 50+ the game has advanced... give it up its a clown world to assume the game hasnt improved and players havent figured out how to get better at basketball in 30 years

@marshalljankins4526

7 ай бұрын

@@MillsOnWheels : overall better shooters. Yes. Fundamentals, heart, Basketball IQ. No. It's too easy to score today, no handchecking, no bigs in the paint. . People just stand around on D. Elite Centers are a non existence . The game evolved in a bad way with the rule changes. No rim protectors make it boring. The mid-range game is a lost art.

@lestonclark2398

7 ай бұрын

​@@MillsOnWheels 1 word for more uncontested 3s curry he thought damn near the whole league how to get alot of uncontested 3s with a mixture of screens and off ball movements and quick releases......

@chrishedricks308

7 ай бұрын

@@lestonclark2398 English please and Steph Curry didn’t do shit the coaches teach players players play Curry might give feedback but that doesn’t mean what you said

Takes a real one with courage to, as a Lebron fan, actually go down that rabbit hole and come back with answers you didn't want. I respect ya for that boss. I think other LBJ fans are frightened to go where you did bcuz they already know the answers but prefer to live in ignorance. Good stuff. And remember... The truth shall always set ya free 😂😂

@Vvrroommm

6 ай бұрын

WILT CHAMBERLAIN ERA OF STUDY WILL SET YOU EVEN FREEER.. WILT HAS A SCARY NICK NAME"THE RECORD BOOK" .. NOTHING SCARIER TO DIVE INTO THAT RABBIT WHOLE AND FIND MORE ANSWERS FROM PASS COACHES, PLAYERS, OTHER SPORTS ATHLETES TESTIMONIALS ABOUT THE RECORD BOOK...EVEN THE GUY WITH THE MOST RINGS BASICALLY SAYING YEAH WILT IS THAT GUY AND MORE.

One very important detail on ball handling. Back then you couldn't carry the ball over. So the players from back then would be better ball handlers if they played today and the players today would not be as good ball handlers if they played back then. If you watch todays game almost every dribble is a carry over. The players back then didn't have the advantage of the euro step/traveling.

@ronnieturner3110

7 ай бұрын

Both of y'all sounds Stu Stu Jordan had pippen an Phil with out Pippen and Phil what have MJ won... Y'all idiots keep making videos about who the goat is ain't nobody the goat it's a team sport

@noreply6947

7 ай бұрын

Don't think the euro step is traveling. It's just basically 1 foot jumping side to side for two steps. Reason why it wasn't utilized in Jordan's era, my guess because of spacing. The floor is so spaced out in this Era they have enough room to side step defenders in the lane. That would be impossible in the 90s, you would get your soul snatched doing that.

@garygnu8775

7 ай бұрын

@@noreply6947 regardless of that, traveling and carrying is at an all time advantage. They had to acclimate due to the popularity of AND1

@arguseyed9982

7 ай бұрын

@@garygnu8775 Euro step was not used as it was not ”invented” yet. It was first used during Jordans career and was popularized after it.

@nathanbartel9442

6 ай бұрын

@@noreply6947Pippen was the 1st player to regularly get away with euro step not called as a travel.

When you're good at something, you'll tell everyone when you're great, they'll tell you. Walter Payton

When Jordan played with the wizards his first yr he was averaging 25/6/6 the first 50 games before the knee injury after a 3 yr retirement smoking cigars playing golf not staying in shape to do that speaks volumes and he still averaged 21/5/5 the 2 yrs in Washington

When you're good at something, you tell everybody. When you're great at something, they tell you. - Walter Payton

Michael is the prototype for basketball athleticism. When you give praise for longevity, I think of Kareem. He went through more adversity. Players traveled coach on planes, teams actually practiced on off game nights, greater physicality during the game, and players wanted to be known as Iron men, who played through injuries. There was a greater focus on being in game shape. The game was tougher and the athletes were in shape to play deep into the season. Players today may party often on the off nights and are given rest between games, which means they are not in top shape. Jordan has all of the advantages like Kareem and the intellect, speed, quickness and hands to take advantage of all of his athleticism.

@antav9371

6 ай бұрын

"Michael is the prototype for basketball athleticism" Nah, ...Elgin, Baylor, Connie Hawkins, Gus Johnson, David Thompson and this guy, Julius Erving kzread.info/dash/bejne/ampmu7OxfZWbeKw.html

MJ birthed all the NBA Players. Everyone Inspired to be like MJ, still till this day! 40 years later and his shoe & brand is still going strong, that's GOAT Status

@antav9371

6 ай бұрын

"MJ birthed all the NBA Players" *** As Jordan was birthed by those before him, Walter Davis, David Thompson. and this guy Julius Erving kzread.info/dash/bejne/ampmu7OxfZWbeKw.html

When people want to debate me on this topic I often say do your research on MJ and get back to me yes it’s impressive bron is still going but if MJ played for 20 years straight at least 8 to 9 chips at least

MJ played 3 years of college, retired for 1 1/2 seasons, then for 3 years... Now just wonder how many points MJ would have with 7 1/2 years more in the NBA 😂

@noreply6947

7 ай бұрын

Also was injured in 85' only played 18 games, played only 17 games coming back in 95'. So technically he really only played 11.5 seasons with the bulls and 2 seasons with the wizzards, 13.5 in total. Lebron playing his 21st season. His numbers compared with Jordan in that context aren't as impressive in the whole picture. His longevity is impressive though, but he's always been a freak athlete built like a brick house, so it's easy to see why.

@PC-tc5je

6 ай бұрын

Still couldn’t win without Pippen

@tankeater

6 ай бұрын

@@PC-tc5je And? LeBron couldn't win with the same team... That's MUCH harder than draining a teams resources and jumping ship ever 4-7 years. Wonder what the Spurs would have looked like with MJ, from the late 90s on... LMFFFAAAOOO 🤡

@PC-tc5je

6 ай бұрын

@tankeater Sorry you got butthurt over that.. lol I never said lebron was better..

@tankeater

6 ай бұрын

@@PC-tc5je using it as reference guy... Sorry if a factual rebuttal got you so lost that all you could do was throw an insult at me. An intellectual would spit some knowledge back at me to prove your point/statement. What are you saying child? You've made 2 comments, but ain't said $#1T 🤡

In the 90s, it was RARE to not have 1 guy on each team foul out... Now, it's rare for 1 guy to foul out AND the game is called softer 😂🤦‍♂️

@wpriddy

7 ай бұрын

The game is measurably softer. They don't foul out because they never touch each other. Now, going straight up with a shooter is a player spacing foul. Now, touching a ball handler at any time is a foul. Now, normal fouls are flagrant. Now, being in perfect defensive position when the ball handler changes direction into you is a foul. It's like this: if the second threepeat bulls played the durant warriors, the rule set would determine the outcome. 90s rules: Bulls absolutely destroy. Win by 30 or 40. The physicality of the game is too much. Curry has 6'6" Ron harper literally living inside his ass. Klay is wearing a full on wizard robe named Michael jordan. Durant is being guarded by scottie fucking pippen. A dude in the hall of fame for being one of the greatest defenders in nba history. If durants height is too much, then there's still a whole ass dennis rodman. Another guy in the hall of fame for being one of the greatest defenders in nba history. Today's rules: Bulls foul out in the first quarter

Yo, facts on that. If LBJ played in the west and made it to the finals, he aint losing. He would have less rings and less appearances, but i very much doubt he would have a finals losing record. The fact thst he lost to Dallas with the most stacked roster he ever had, says alot. Making a finals in the 2000s as a superstar without a jumpshot, says alot about the east back then. Also says alot about the dominance of 1 Kobe Bryant and 2 Tim Duncan.

I love when jordan is being petty 😂😂😂

I'm a 90's kat you provided great breakdown to his talking points and you were objective before coming to your conclusion you got a new sub for that

I agree with you on the idea that they care about being embarrassed on defense too much. If I have to hear one more fan or player say “He made a business decision” one more time……You see the videos of Jordan dunking right on Zo or KJ on Olajuwon. There is tape of Zo and Olajuwon blocking MJ and KJ. They were actually trying to challenge and keep these guys from scoring. When did effort become such a bad thing if it fails?? LeBron didn’t compete in a dunk contest like Dr. J, Kobe or MJ….not because he would have lost but because he COULD have lost. He was more worried about embarrassment than he wanted the challenge. MJ has the worst three point contest showing in history but he wanted to try it because he already took two dunk titles. So he stood out on that court on All-Star Weekend and bombed. He was willing to.

@fitzroy6970

7 ай бұрын

A quick correction mj is tied for worst 3pt contest showing with detlef schrempf

They shoot better today because there is no hand checking. That and the emphasis has moved away from the big men in the 70s-00s

LeBron is great no doubt 4 rings, scoring leader but Jordan made the league globally known after Magic and Bird legit saved the league

The 3 second defensive violation added in 2001 also made a huge difference. It prevented big men from camping out in the lane, Just waiting for people to try and drive to the Basket. That did 2 things... the Current Big Man are gonna have less blocks because they can't stand in the paint defending the basket waiting for on someone driving to the basket. On the other hand it made it easier for everyone else's to score because the lane is always wide open for an easy dunk or lay up!

@badas95Z

7 ай бұрын

@bigdan21 another thing too there aren't many real "big men" now

@Ilovemylightskinqueens

7 ай бұрын

​@@badas95Zgiannis embiid AD Jokic. Lebron Dwight Steph Kawhi PG Harden KD Perkins Horry Shaq Yao Ming Zydrunas Varejoa. HAKEEM Kareem. Ewing. We have biggs wilt Magic

@jondoe7237

6 ай бұрын

​@@Ilovemylightskinqueens ain't now way u tried to make that list seem long by just adding players like steph pg kawhi lebron and others.. u funnier than a mf😂😂😂

@Ilovemylightskinqueens

6 ай бұрын

@@jondoe7237 thanks I ran outta ppl

I love your opinion and I love how you're humble enough to like change your mind a little bit about it after seeing the big picture. Do there has never been anyone like MJ that would take over a game and you just knew that they were going to win because he was going to come back and he was going to will them to win and I've only seen that in glimpses from others but nobody like MJ . He's the number one pick in the all universe draft

Ty 4 this.

It's stupid to think about this debate .Jordan was another level

Lebron: I’m gonna get who I need to get me a win and I’m taking the credit. MJ: I’m going to win and I’m taking you with me.

Thank you for your honesty little brother and I'm 45 the watching basketball for a minute I've been watching basketball for Michael Jordan era and Lebron's and I can truly honestly Michael Jordan over LeBron

From 2008-10 KOBE faced 11 out of 12 50+ win teams in the rout to 3 finals, going 11 and 12. During those 3 years, KOBE beat more 50+ win teams, then LeBRONZ faced... I was born in 1987 in Southern California, the KOBE and Shaq eara was legendary... MJ is better than KOBE. But, because of KOBE's ferocity on defense, I don't think LeBron has a better legacy then KOBE. Call me bias, but, KOBE WAS A KILLER ON THE COURT! LeBron is an analyst, better at certain times, but not at the best of times.

The video of LBJ making zero effort to retrieve a loose ball is embarrassing! Are you too tired to compete? Are you weak hearted? What, exactly, is your excuse? That is NOT NBA quality competition! That is weakness!

Loving the funny commentary! Keep up the grind man!

You know When Michael Jordan play centers were allowed to stand in the paint.

You exactly right on the fact that players are more scared to become memes😂 and would prefer to allow a point then get dunked on.

Idk why he brought up the all time scoring champ. Mj wasn't driven by stats. He was driven by winning & challenges, yes he loved scoring and taking guys on defense. I thought that hypothetical was unnecessary. If he wanted to address it he could of brought up all mj's scoring titles compared to LeBron, & ask which represents the better scorer.

@steverenom.299

7 ай бұрын

You've just explained why Bill Russell is the true GOAT and you don't even realize it. Lol.

Lebron james needs to get a senior citizen award...😂

This debate was over before it even began!

I enjoy your content bro, new content

I think today has better overall 3 point shooters but the past has better midrange shooters and that is because of the emphasis put on these things in each error!!

I like how u mentioned the defense aspect cuz thats where most fall short; they dont even accept the responsibility of dominating the opponent

I just became a fan of yours because you are willing to keep it real. I'm 55 yrs old and I've watched both players. LeBron is one of the best to ever play. However, Jordan was a different animal fr

Thanks for shedding light to people this generation and showed respect from past generation of bball legends

The debate never really started for anyone over 35

I’m 57 years old and was in high school when MJ hit the NBA by storm. I’ve seen his entire NBA career. Obviously I’ve lived to see LeBron and his careers as well. He grew up 45 minutes from my hometown. Being someone who lived to see the entire career of both these great players, I’d have to say that MJ is definitely the G.O.A.T. and there is no comparison. 1. MJ 2. Bird 3. Kobe 4. LeBron 5. Wilt

Love your insight at the 5 minute mark. Your right. They fear getting embarrassed, so they don't try. It's how I was in school. "I don't care that I got an F because I didn't even try". (I was a dumb ass, LOL) However, I'm not sure which is worse: being on a 600px by 600px meme, or being on a 6ft poster on a kids wall.

I don't blame the league for taking the physical play out. The athletes were getting too big and too strong to keep letting them beat on each other... but There were large men beating on Jordan trying to break him and he'd just go back and dunk on them.

NO-1 has prettier moves than MJ. Jordan was Basketball poetry in motion. Not just a sameAzz No touch bowling ball move.

Didn't Allen Iverson cross TF out Jordan with hand checking?? Stop playing man Kyrie dem Boyz cooking shit if u drop em in da 80-90s

@tw3314

7 ай бұрын

Right

I have never seen such high scoring games!! 2023 just proves it!! Teams are not just scoring over 100 points, they are scoring over 120 points every night

Defense is effort multiplied by aggression.

2:05 To hear him say “Lebron is great” in the midst of HIS HIGHLIGHTS is hilarious😄😄😄♥️♥️♥️

Michael Jordan doesn't think that HE is the greatest of all time, he has always acknowledged that there are many other greats, especially ones he was never able to play against.

IF LBJ PLAYED in 80's or 90's his body wouldn't have held up aswell for 21 years

i will give lebron james the longevity award for staying so long in the game at a still high level..but as a warrior i give that to mj bird and kobe..these players had killer instincts the modern players should learn..remembe..if lebron played in 80-90s era his career would be less from the brutal play and the handchecking rules that was played in those days..he is like a karl malone to me but he is not even in my top 10 of all time which says a lot...im happy for lebron and his play in a soft nba league which will get softer and so soft they will use strap pillows all over their bodies so they wont get roughed up..the new rules have taught kids to just jack up shots and not strategize with the center the guard or forward in the game..its a predictable game and thank god i gave up on basketball football basesball hockey and wont spend a dime on this inclusive sports we have to watch and say..why am i paying $13 for a hotdog?

@tw3314

7 ай бұрын

Yes he’s def not top 10 🤡🤡

Well presented...

it's never been a debate MJ- 6-0 only player in the league to ever be MVP finials MVP Defensive player of the year offensive player of the year in the same year, 3 peat twice never swept never lost in the finals never a game 7 Lebron swept three times 4-6 in the finals 21 years and still haven’t won a 5th title Kobe is better then Lebum.

No matter what LeBron try and says, he will never be like mj...

Mike said: "I cemented my legacy at 35" He's retired enjoying life when he was 36. ...leflop still trying... ... Mike didn't need to flopped... 90's basketball was so much fun to watch... sorry I'm 42. Thanks Mike!!!

He's being respectful. Truth is, as you pointed out, it's harder to get your shot off against the old heads!!!! So players now aren't better shooters, in my opinion, or more skilled. It takes more skill to play offense in a tougher defensive era. The lack of D in this era is why players seem better than they really are. LeBron isn't top 10

@pinkt1t5

7 ай бұрын

Come on dude, Lebron is somewhere in 2 to 10.

@iriemon3504

7 ай бұрын

@pinkt1t5 negative. Longevity or accumulative numbers can't make you great, just like they can't make you the worst. Lebum has the most losses in the finals. Most sweeps most turnovers, most missed shots in playoffs etc etc, so does that make him the worst if the opposite makes him the greatest. He's an above average player, not a great player.

@pinkt1t5

7 ай бұрын

@@iriemon3504 so Steph Curry is average? Luka is average? Giannis is average? Dwayne Wade is average? Kyrie is average? What are you even saying??

@iriemon3504

7 ай бұрын

@pinkt1t5 All those players you named have a lot more basketball skills/fundamentals than lebum, he's just all size.

@pinkt1t5

7 ай бұрын

@iriemon3504 so Shaq, Bill Russell, Wilt, DRobinson, Giannis etc. Are all average? You are literally a case of someone drinking way too much haterade. Your trolling is just sad.

Even in Shaq's era, he would tell guys "don't come down here, I'll put you on your back". That's how it was driving to the basket. These days, sheesh, it's a freeway to the bucket.

The major problem with these type videos is they only show mj highlights in a bulls uniform,only exaggerated clips of him in 90s and won’t show clips of him in a Washington uniform

NBA should have throwback rules for 1 season 😂

Love to see the young men waking up. Keep growing

I would agree with y’all about ball handling if we didn’t have a stat called TURNOVERS. Yall literally judging ball handling off of moves 😂. The NBA hides turnovers because Lebron is the King of them and it exposes all the bs about today’s NBA🤦🏾‍♂️. Another reason the NBA is 💀.

All respect to this host... IMHO you are wise beyond your years.... perspective, awareness and knowledge is spot on.... Not because he is leaning a certain way.. .its the use of actual facts and reference... not just.. feeling based opinions. Well done!!

Greatness do not flop Never

As an Oldhead myself, and HUGE fan of MJ, Bird, Magic, Ewing, etc, Today's game seems like an offshoot of the original. 80s BBall was all-out war! not specifically about aggression, but the mindset. and you also had great shooters as you do today, but you had position-centered BBall. you go up against a real shotblocker back then, and they had extreme experience in that, and he took it personal if you got though him. These days its Curry BBall (no diss to Curry, he deserves to be ONE OF the goats more than Lebron I think.) but you have 7footers constantly going to the 3 pt shot, that seems out of place.

Guys. Jordan has 7 of the top 10 playoff series scoring AVERAGES of all time... he averaged 40+ in 5 playoff series, including once in the finals. That's insane. Lebron, Kobe and Wilt don't even appear on the list once. That's how dominant he was - all hyper efficient series, by the way. This includes the only back-to-back 50 point playoff games against the Cavs, including the series clinching famous shot over Craig Ehlo... if he missed that shot, the Bulls lose. Legendary.

yeah they speaking facts when LeBron win his 6 now maybe we can have a debate 6 losses in the finals is bad for his career its like Jerry West

Its refreshing to see a young man like you so open minded with basketball. You will go far in life kid. Well done

The difference in defense from 80's and 90's compared to now is in the 80's and 90's defenders were territorial. It was an insult to allow someone to score on you. You wanted to destroy your opponent and to do that you had to stop them from scoring. Nowadays, the mind set is just out score the opponent. There were also a LOT more players who took pride in their defense more than their ability to score. Players played roles. Nowadays, some NBA teams have a full roster of the same player. Everyone just shoots. To be honest, I'm not sure how the coaches of NBA teams handle coaching. I would be floored most days by the amount of laziness. I'd end up cutting everyone because I'm enjoyed old school basketball. Too many people taking off plays and stopping to complain to a referee while the ball is still in play. I don't know a single person, personally, who still watches the NBA.

LeFlop is not even comparable to Jordan..Jordan was a different animal ....Totally would dominate every era ..Black Jesus would almost average 50 plus a game ..Today's game is to open and no in your face slamming you down etc. There will never be another Jordan ever..Jordan is the greatest player to ever play the game it has nothing to do with his rings ...and really only maybe 14 seasons .....

@tw3314

7 ай бұрын

Bron could also dominate in any ERA 🤡🤡 And Jordan WOULDNT avg 50 in todays game not even close

NO VERSION OF LEBRON IS BETTER THAN ANY VERSION OF PRIME MIKE

@tw3314

7 ай бұрын

Trippin

@lancehood7916

7 ай бұрын

Check the Numbers only a casual will dispute this prime Mike was from 87-93 No version of Lebron was ever better than that Version of Mike. In the 80s and the 90s most players prime was from 24-31.

You're very intelligent. Keep up the good work👍

As someone who played basketball and trains and scouts current players, it's a fallacy that current players practice shooting more. What has changed is what is considered a good shot and what is considered a bad shot. I promise you dudes were pulling like Steph Curry in pickup games, but that wasn't tolerated on a team. Analytics changed the perception of good shots. They found that you can get more points per possession if you took more 3s than 2s.

15:46 its facts the Western Conf has been stacked since the 2000's..AND ITS STILL STACKED.

LIL UNC, IN REALITY THERE WAS NEVER A DEBATE! LEFLOP USED THE GREATNESS OF OTHER PLAYERS LIKE D. WADE & CHRIS BOSH TO WIN TO SELF AGGRANDIZES HIS OWN GREATNESS! G.O.A.T., M.J. TAKES THE RESPONSIBILITY ON HIMSELF TO MAKE GOOD PLAYERS GREAT & WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS FOR HIS TEAMMATES WHO HAD NOT WON A CHAMPIONSHIP! WHEN DOES 40% 4/10 BETTER THAN 100% 6/6!

These players today are allowed to travel and carry the ball without it being called. The league is softer and nobody really defends the rim today.

Hey man. I like you. I like your reactions and I think you're pretty real. You've made me bust out laughing when you did that one thing after y'all were talking about defense. Keep it up man I'm going to check out your channel

Not gonna lie here, i'm of the old school crowd who thinks basketball died in the early 2000's.. The rules against defense only made this game more boring and though I love the sport, I hate the way its evolved.

There's also that stupid 3 second rule where the big man can't just guard the basket and prevent layups and dunks. Nowadays they are in the 3 point zone and throwing up 10 shots a night. A 3 point shooting center was unheard of back in the day. Your primary job was to block easy shot like dunk and layups. Today, everybody just moves out of the way and gives players a clear lane.

@TheIcemanthomas

8 ай бұрын

There definitely was outside shooting bigs back then. Bill laimbeer was one of them. Jack sikma ventured out occasionally. Mcadoo was a great shooter. Maybe not many 3s but definitely deep twos.

Thats one of the biggest reasons I really dont like LeChina...The man has no humility.

Respect, young homie. It would be great if others from your generation accepted facts ☝🏾

Ralph Sampson would have loved to play in 2023

there never was a debate it's MJ

I always said...If you have to say you're the GOAT, you're not.

What’s even crazier is that the season MJ won DPOY, he also won MVP (scoring title).

Also Kareem & MJ played college…if Kareem played all of those years in NBA, it would take Lebron 5 extra seasons to catch him (40 yr old ppg vs 20 yr old ppg)

I'm a subscriber to BTM. We're roughly the same age. I saw this video quite a while ago. As an older guy, I saw MJ play when I was a kid, same way you saw LeBron! Jordan did shit no one else could do or had done! On too of that he was clutch like all the greats before him. He didn't pass the final shot...he took it and made it! Since college! LeBron will always be like Kobe in the fact that he entered the league at 18. Jordan went to college and the Olympics before entering the NBA. LeBron is an all time great, but I would choose Bird in that position as my starting #3, I want to put LeBron in as a #4 but in the 80's and 90's IDK if he could actually play down low like that! His mind set would have to be different that's for sure.

It's not even close.

These players these days don't focus on footwork. They don't focus on handles. They just shoot. They don't know how to create separation without a teammates help....and it's hilariously pathetic. When was the last time you seen someone get crossed over?? My point proven...

Would LBJ had made 10 appearances in the Finals if he was in the WC instead of the EC?

You look like Carmelo anything rookie year too on the nuggets…. 😂 crazy! 😂

Back in those days that defense worked because as you stated in the beginning of your statement players didn't shoot as well from range so that cluttered everything within the 3 line both offense and defense now if you run down on defense to get set up and you're not above the 3 line then you will get rained on with 3s

The handcheck thing is a false idea. We literally see Beverly draymond and everybody else handcheck. Defenders still put their hands on each other.

100% true. That’s why he has never participated in a slam dunk contest because he is scared to fail and this will bring a bad image to his name. Kobe wasn’t scare of this, MJ wasn’t afraid to fail. Lebron passes because he’s afraid to fail.

Lol hey mom😂

Them boys back in the day had to play for they money now it’s jus giving to them 😂 another reason they not playing hard every game 😢

He left out the fact that Jordan also won the scoring title, the same year he won the defensive player of the year

I would agree with y’all on the shooting, if we didn’t have the percentages 🤦🏾‍♂️. Just because you shoot more don’t make you shoot better lol. If the shooting percentage isn’t better, then they’re just shooting more of the worst shot🤦🏾‍♂️. Another reason the NBA is 💀

I agree on a lot in this but half the reason they not blocking shots as much is more because its a lot of shooting bigs now and it was almost no shooting bigs back then so bigs can help easier and more often because they didnt have to worry about giving up a 3 for helping on drives in the paint and also ball handlers are more skilled shooters so they pull up more than drive now or throw up a floater

Lebron's argument is that no one since he's entered the league or likely in the future will approach what he has done, especially considering that he averaged 78 games and 40 minutes a game for his first 8 years, and played 282 post season games including 4 rounds of post season 9 straight years. You can only find someone who looks more dominant by going back in time: Jordan, Kareem, Wilt. If no one who's entered the league since you is better, you have a "case". He may be as good as a player can possibly be right now. The big men today, Jokic, Embiid and Giannis have great efficiency but play 33 minutes. Embiid has never played 70 games in a season. Giannis hasn't played over 33 minutes a game or more than 67 games for the last 4 years. If you have to go back in time to find anyone who approaches your career dominance then you are in the conversation. If a player who's playing now clearly exceeds Lebron's accomplishments then you can knock him out of the discussion.

How do people just skip over Kobe and go to Lebron?

Overall, the game is smarter today. Less physical, but smarter. Less players getting hurt, less fouling out. Fouls are called more today as well. It’s just smarter to reduce the contact and not give up wasteful fouls. However, Jordan would still dominate today. He is the best ever. The complete player!

If you REALLY knew basketball and what the game is all about, you would know that Bill Russell is the true GOAT.

@bertooo1358

7 ай бұрын

No 😂

@steverenom.299

7 ай бұрын

So you don't know basketball and what the game is really all about. That's fine. Your choice to stay dumb and stat driven. Lmao!!!@@bertooo1358

@WSNight-

7 ай бұрын

He's mines as well, too many lies about how tall his opponents was he wasn't playing 5 foot centers like these youngsters belive go to nba refrance they have every roster I'm history the nba had same amount of tall players as 80s and now.

@steverenom.299

7 ай бұрын

You understand the ENTIRE game of basketball and understand that it's about winning with team play and not just about stats. Bill Russell went up against the likes of Wilt Chamberlain, Nate Thurmond, Walt Bellamy, Bob Pettit, Zelmo Beatty, Wes Unseld, etc., night in and night out. Good for you for learning about the entire history of the game.@@WSNight-