If you want to know more about chemical rust removal here's a great video on the subject from a chap called Geoff (he's also restoring a land rover!): kzread.info/dash/bejne/g51h1q1qmtq1Xc4.html

@chriswills9530

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I watch Geoff Croker's stuff too. Smart funny fella. His approach is very different to your's, Max! But very watchable. I must say that I'm very much muddy back yard and overalls than laboratory and clean fingernails, but he's good.

I have a 1966 88”. As I was fixing my sending unit last evening, I noticed large paint scales and rust in the tank. I found this to see how difficult dropping the tank was. Looks pretty straightforward. Glad it comes out the bottom. I’ll have a local radiator shop boil it out and put in a sealant. Thanks for this.👌

@maximusironthumper

3 ай бұрын

Yep, it's pretty straightforward to remove. On the sealers, I used the POR15 treatment on a motorbike tank (kit of cleaner and epoxy) and it was quite successful, gave me an extra 5 years of use.

The only thing better then tinkering with an old landrover, is watching someone else tinkering with an old landrover. Awesome stuff mate thanks

Ah, a man after my own heart! A scraggidy tin of Hammerite that has been knocking round in the shed since who knows when. Just right to use for the Landy. Honestly, is there anything better in this world than an old Land Rover with a non turbo diesel, and a collection of not exactly matched parts? It would certainly do for me if space and finances allowed...... Thanks for another smashing video.

@gramursowanfaborden5820

3 жыл бұрын

there's something special about it, gathering an aura spent sat teetering off the back of a shelf for decades.

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

@ Paul Jenkins The answer is yes several times over but for me something with a nice rover V8 in it for a start and disc braking on the front axle to stop it lol but if it were a series 2 or 2A I'd have a nice 2 and a quarter petrol in it. Lovely engine not stressed by high compression like the diesel versions. It's a pity the days are probably gone when you could get a brand new, still in its crate ex military Two and a quarter petrol engine. Like you could when I was playing Landies, back around the early 2000's. My next door neighbour had an immaculate 2A diesel, and I mean immaculate. His dad who was a mechanic restored it for his brother and my neighbour got from his uncle. He was the one who got me into land rovers, and trialling. He used to tow his series 1 trialler with said 2A and before I started trialling I used to go with him, god those journeys were boring 40 mph round the M25 top speed. Those journeys convinced me never to have a two and a quarter normally aspirated LR diesel EVER lol

Thanks for telling everyone about diesel and it's affects on motorbikes - I went through diesel once and never forgot it.

@jonnoMoto

3 жыл бұрын

That rainbow colour on bends shits me up every time.

@johnp8150

3 жыл бұрын

...and me. Thanks Max.

@blacksquirrel4008

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a truly scary feeling to start away from a stop sign and have your bike just slither away from under you.

Another grand video Max. The joys of Land Rover ownership, but at least series trucks can be repaired without plugging a computer in to it.

a Land Rover must have "issues" otherwise it's not in equilibrium. if you solve everything and make it perfect, it will retaliate and something very serious will go wrong instead.

Nice to see you keeping the old girl on the road. Owning a landrover is a hobby, But you get to learn them inside out.

Hello, I am a Spanish fan of Land Rover, but especially those manufactured in my country by Santana Motor, also tell him that I love everything he does for these magnificent pure and hard all-terrain cars, which sadly will never be used again. manufacture, but luckily for the fans, we have people like you, who delight in seeing how they work on these magnificent machines, and their fabulous end result, thank you very much for your work in preserving these magnificent Land Rover Series.

I found the best way to store part used cans of paint is to push the lid on tight and keep them upside down, the skin then forms on the bottom of the can, no more bits of paint skin to mess up the paint job.

@jagvette1

3 жыл бұрын

i do that too, especially with Por 15

Great tip on the phosphoric acid descaler. That Hammerite Kurust stuff is more expensive per litre than a good whiskey!

Love this channel. Make a list of what's NOT wrong with the old girl. Save a fortune on paper.......

@buzzofftoxicblog791

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🤔🌍

Brilliant vlog max thanks 😁👍👏👏👏

Your thumbnail for this video "The other Landy. Has some issues" is a masterpiece of understatement :)

Its so nice to listen to all the birds in the background, starting sound a lot like spring! Its still -15c here up north and I cant wait for spring to finally come, I miss it so much!

@maximusironthumper

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, I'm thoroughly bored of winter!

@rodden1953

3 жыл бұрын

@@maximusironthumper You have to make an EV

Whenever I find myself preparing to start a project I’ll watch one of your videos to get me in the mood. So tomorrow I’ll now be ready if the shocks arrive. Luckily for me I’ve a nice warm concrete slab with a roof over to work on. I also have my own grease pit, as I’ve a burial vault plant nearby who were nice enough to drop one in for me when I built my carport. Luxury, and I’m ready for the afterlife, too.

Diesel dripping is not just a hazard to other road users… it is also a killer of soil microbes and animals living in the soil. Just sticking up for the voiceless ;)

"Billy-o" there's a word I haven't heard used for a good long while! Good job with the Landys fuel tank.

Love that old lanny

I loved the sound the wellies made squelching through the mud. Absolute nightmare to work in but absolutely doable. First time I have seen your channel, loved it, great stuff a real get on and can do example to us all.

Ah nice job and you can fix almost anything on a land rover and will have to at least once at some point. Geoffrey Croker's channel is superb and I still laugh when he says things like 'if you want to shock your friends, park your land rover on their new concrete drive'.

You could do with a few ton of crushed stone and some gravel for the yard. interesting video.

@phildxyz

3 жыл бұрын

He lives in the West Country like me - not enough stone in the whole world :)

@oakashthorn5714

3 жыл бұрын

@@phildxyz I can also confirm this to be true

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

@@phildxyz yes maybe so but about ten square metres of level concrete would be a place to put the Landy on and jack up, or just crawl under to work would be nice and civilised, but looking at Maximus's forked beard civilised is another word! Lol Sorry Maximus lol you seem like a nice guy.

Always a pleasure to watch how you re dancing around an old Landy!

I find brush painting stuff with hammerite so therapeutic :)

I'm very excited about a potential EV conversion, would love to see that!

Another great vlog. Loved the sound in the background of the crows chasing off the buzzard when you were bleeding the fuel lines. Stay safe .

I have be eagerly awaiting your next video to come on the landrover. With a cupa tea in hand i will enjoy. THanks Max for keeping us all sain.

Nice one Max! I enjoyed that. I didn’t know about the pros/cons of phosphoric acid vs hydrochloric acid. I now know what to use the next time I’m dealing with one of the many rusty bits of my Series LR.

When I took the tank out of my S3, it had "Made in Canada" stamped on it, which I found bizarre. Obvs not original, well I presume it isn't (1981), but seems a weird journey: I hadn't known Canada was an international fuel tank exporter of any note. Would personally enjoy seeing you go through your MOT work (inc transfer box seal) on this one. Enjoyed this one, as ever.

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

I would hope that he did the transfer box rear seal in the workshop rather than a muddy field! Lol

Ypu know your chemistry . Well done. Looks like a good tank going in.

Max, I think you should set up a little spray booth to go with your little sand blasting cabinet.

Thank you Max - an interesting video even to a viewer who know nothing about motor vehicles apart from how to drive one and fill the fuel tank

It’s a beauty that just needs some Ironthumper magic to bring it back to its former glory 👍🏻

Love it Max. 'if I can make it interesting' birds start chirping, good edit if it was one, 7.09 puts pull-off acid lid retainer in overall pocket

Great stuff Max .. soon be spring 👍

Yay! Nice bit of snow there!

@maximusironthumper

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't last long though, barely enough time to get the sledge out!

Another great and informative video, thank you. Stay safe.

Another smashing video spurs me on to do all my project s,I have an antique boat and bailey maru 60s carvan to do up,thanks freespirit

Max, not only did we get to watch paint dry in this episode, but phosphorus acid dry as well.🙉 Good content Max and I learned a few things. I'm guessing you should add to your list putting oil on the bonnet support bracket. You and yours stay healthy and safe and cheers from this old retired coot living across the pond in Tennessee.💖 👍 😷 🍻 ✌

Oh the joys! Probably true to say that every owner has a "to do" list with one of these. Mine is pretty much a full rebuild this year ahead of an adventure next summer. Hard work keeping these things as daily drivers, but really rewarding on a good day.

@maximusironthumper

3 жыл бұрын

Crikey, I always thought of yours as mint compared to this one!

@steamwally

3 жыл бұрын

@@maximusironthumper It's not too shabby, but it's time to address all the things I've never been satisfied with, as you say these things just niggle away at you don't they!

Brilliant, landrover videos. Don't worry about making it interesting......... It always is

Wonderful channel max thanks we learn so much

Please do more Land Rover content. I'm in Germany and really contemplating whether I should buy one or not.

@gramursowanfaborden5820

3 жыл бұрын

much of the culture around Land Rovers is make-do-and-mend attitude, nobody should own just one, it is a commitment to having a considerable stockpile of spares, often partially assembled as other vehicles. buying all new or reconditioned parts every time something goes wrong is not the right way to do it, it's inefficient on money and misses the point of what makes the cars special. people say owning Land Rovers is a hobby or a lifestyle, but it isn't really, it's a philosophy.

An aspirational MOT .

Same reg year as my Morris Traveler - it has aluminium and moss parts too.

Very civilised approach Max, no grinding disks or slitting disks..... watching with interest having spent my day fitting the A Pillars and footwells. I think my fuel tanks a way off any dose of looking at ! All the best fella. Mat

@maximusironthumper

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mat. Plenty of grinding and cutting happening this week, but that's for another video!

Nice one Max👍

Great tip! 👍🏻

As always, entertaining, educational and inspiring, but what a muddy mess at this time of year. Ever thought about throwing down some paving for the projects that won't fit in the workshop? You are a great example of what can be done if you just keep chipping away. Big things can be achieved, a little bit at a time.

Great video, learned a lot of tips from it, thank you

Re examining the tank interior. Fibre optic inspection cameras that display via a laptop or smartphone are available from about £10. They're not exactly HD, but are very useful for examining otherwise inaccessible spaces.

when a Landy does not leak it's empty.

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

So true, so very true ! Lmao

@tonyalways7174

3 жыл бұрын

Nailed it 👍🏻😂

I once put some sealer in a motorbike tank, then sealed the filler and outlet wrapped it in a blanket and stuff and jammed it in the cement mixer for half an hour to coat the inside.

@lawrencewillard6370

3 жыл бұрын

Good thinking!. Using what you have.

I would suggest putting the plug and extension lead end in a carrier bag and tying it up as we would like you to keep making videos as long as possible

Thanks max loved it

A good rust deterrent is spraying on a mix of bar & chain oil with paraffin over the underside of the jalopy (paraffin evaporates leaving the oil, oil attracts road dirt which creates an oily cake which keeps water and salt out), Mustie1 swears by on his various vehicles it and it does seem to do well with keeping the tinworm at bay given like the UK they salt the roads like McDonalds' fries in the winter... :D

Anyone else feel nervous watching the extension plug sat in the middle of a big muddy puddle at the beginning? ;)

@frankdeegan8974

3 жыл бұрын

No, mud no standing water yes.

@alastairmackay4589

3 жыл бұрын

The general filth of everything is starting to make me feel nauseous

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

@@alastairmackay4589 you are obviously watching the wrong channel then mate lol Geoff Croker is your man!

The original tank on my Landy lasted 28 years before being replaced, however the aftermarket tanks only appear to last 4 or 5 years before they weep from the seams, and that’s with them being painted and waxoiled. It’s currently weeping again and I’m going to bite the bullet and go stainless this time.

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

Ouch! Says your wallet!

That engine bay is filthy!

great vid, there should be more guys like you , chemical metal leak fix ,is really effective to repair tanks, good chance to paint outriggers too , i used s/s fixing kit for tank ,so easy to get of and on . yes not best of designs

I replaced the original tank on my 1984 88 last summer, rotted where mud gets trapped between out rigger which also had a few holes in. On the new one I seam sealed all the seams and give it a good coat of dinitrol. Hopefully good for another 36 years..... I wish the cradle was a seperate piece...

I've replaced two of these over the years, it's such a daft design to have the seam ready to catch all the spray water from the wheels and road. I'm never sure if they rust from the inside or the outside. Yet a 1930's Ford tank I have is bulletproof it seems!

‘We got a nice healthy moss growing in there’. lol

I enjoyed that!

Great entertainment again.

Class

I've got a similarly long list at the moment. Summer's coming! ;)

They like a bike just keep topping it up and keep on going

The right door top is from a 90 or 110, not a Series vehicle, but they’re directly interchangeable and apart from being more resilient alloy, the 90/110 type are also better for having both panes slide so you can better control ventilation. I suppose there is an aesthetic change for those worried about authenticity, but I’d rather have those than the poorer steel earlier types.

@steveky7829

3 жыл бұрын

an outfit in Canada makes aluminum door tops, a little pricey. But they look really good. Rocky Mountain Products...

@nickboylen6873

3 жыл бұрын

@@steveky7829, yep. They look like a halfway house between the SIII and 110 tops. Not cheap, but quality rarely is.

A man with a conscience,like myself. Spent too many years on two wheels, spotting rainbow splodges on the tarmac,to be complacent about my landy dripping derv. A good original tank is a lot stronger than a BP replacement. And a swish of petseal isn't a bad idea so long it's mechanically sound. Nice vid max

@alanhoughton3252

3 жыл бұрын

Only use pet seal on diesel tanks, modern effinol fuels dissolve petseal.

@highdownmartin

3 жыл бұрын

@@alanhoughton3252 cheers. I know. A lot of petseal type products now make it clear they’re ethanol proof. I was being generic

'Got a few issues...'...looks almost forlornly at the ground....I feel your pain...

"So that's not helping economy" LOL - classic

Would love an old series 2

That acid we use at work to clean stuff, didn't know it would help with the rust too

Good video as all your vids you posting up

I’ve owned my s3 now two months and after driving it back the 175 miles I noticed it leaked at the rock shield seam. Bought a new one and seam sealed all of the seems with tiger seal and red oxide / stone chip painted. Also should be 3 bolts at the front and a single bolt at the back with rubber grommets to let the chassis flex - that’s what also aids to splitting the welds at the seams

so glad most things have a plastic tank nowadays .. so much less hassle

@888johnmac

3 жыл бұрын

and a guest appearance by project awesome .. nice

Hi Max, great video as always and very interesting info about the rust converter. Please use goggles or at least glasses when pouring the acid though! Don’t want the one in a thousand backsplash into the eyes!!

I find 85% phosphoric acid does wonders for removing not just rust but also mill scale. After drying and grinding it leaves a perfectly etched surface for painting.

please don't paint it, the patina is lovely. also, i hope the whole electric conversion idea is a joke, i'm not necessarily a purist but i think it'd be a travesty.

Hello Max, I was not aware of the possibility of using phosphoric acid for rust

the main gearbox can empty itself into the transfer box too ! best to check the level before driving it ;-)

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and that seal is not an easy fix lol

“ Should be sunny in the morning “ . Didn’t Michael Fish say something similar in 1987? 👍😂

Worth putting that gauze back on the pick up. A bit of crap could stop your pump lifting though the filter would save the injector pump I've got loads of gauze if you're short.

The old girl looks perfect as she has aged beautifully. Keep her up mechanically, and leave the rest alone would be my advice.

Someone should make a plastic replacement tank for series landies, much as I like them to be relatively original I could live with that.

@HuffoJames

3 жыл бұрын

Stainless steel versions are available, which seems like a much better solution than plastic.

@ricardopereira771

3 жыл бұрын

Yep but stainless is way more expensive than plastic...

@jwatkins5155

3 жыл бұрын

@@HuffoJames plastic tanks have been used for a good long while now, much better than metal

@VeyronBD

3 жыл бұрын

@@jwatkins5155 The major downside is they can break on impact, which on an offroader isnt too far fetched. Generally they are good solution aside from that.

If you ever go down the t-shirt merchandising route, "Alumillium!" would make a great slogan :D

@graememorrison333

3 жыл бұрын

- which rusts like Billy-O! Alubillyo? 😄

I think they are of similar construction to WW2 British fuel tins, which leaked like mad, hence the preference for the better designed Jerry can. My S3's tank has just been replaced for leaking in exactly the same place.

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

Luckily Maximus's was a SWB, the fuel tank in the Long Wheel Base is a nightmare to change with the back tub on. I sincerely hope he checks the fuel tank doesn't leak before re installing it. And if it does leak a replacement is an absolute fortune.

Like you Max - it's a classic in need of TLC and here is my top top tip to keep rust at bay - 1. clean metal 2. red oxide primer 3. topcoat 4. antichip sealer or underseal 6. waxoyl or similar However, can you fit/use a plastic tank?

A mazzing

all ways a good idea to use winns dry fuel removes water helps filters last longer.

When doesn't a Land Rover have issues ? ha ha.

Electric Land-Rover, yes yes yes!

Just out of curiosity, at my work i inspect fuel and hydraulic tanks for different company's and models like JCB ,Loadall ,dumpers, 3cx ,etc . They are welded ,DA , powder coated black or yellow, oil flushed inside , leak testing , and final filters fitted . No rust treatment .

I wouldn't recommend phosphoric acid for cleaning the tank inside. Instead hang a sacrificial iron rod inside, insulate where necessary with a bit rubber and use baking soda plus water and electricity to move the rust particles onto the rod. Make sure to coat the inside of the tank right after you emptied it, since you'll have bare metal left which will rust immediately again.

I'm seriously surprised that none of the aftermarket suppliers have started making older Land-Rover fuel tanks in plastic. They'd make a killing from people buying non-dissolving tanks... Technically, EVERYTHING on a Land-Rover is a consumable... It is worth saying that, if your vehicle has a fuel tank drain plug, it's worth running the fuel level right down and then draining the remains out every six months or year to get rid of the accumulated water. If you have driven lorries with air brakes they you'll probably know that the air tanks are meant to be drained down every week at least to stop the accumulated water corroding them from the inside out, so it makes sense to do the same thing with fuel tanks too. You can put the remaining fuel to one side to let it settle out, petrol will do so far more quickly than diesel, and then you can siphon off the separated fuel and return it to use so you're not wasting anything and you're saving yourself having to carry out a fairly awkward job in replacing the tank so often. Sealing the inside of metal tanks is also a good idea, but it's still worth draining the tank down regularly as it will also massively reduce the risks of getting water contamination in the fuel system...

It seems that all 3 of them are mud catcher!? Max, Landy and fuel tank. ;-)

The fuel tank is normally held with only one bolt at the rear so that the fuel tank doesn't get twisted when the chassis flexes on rough terrain...

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen that too.especially on unmodified trials vehicles!

I made my Own fuel tank for my series 3, Now I have 280L, From an excavator fuel tank :)

Don't worry, Max. The paint job isn't part of the MOT test. Yet. Edit: Sounds like you have a bird of prey keeping an eye on you. Take care.

@blacksquirrel4008

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a pair of red shouldered hawks that remind me of their presence every time I come outside.