JUNKYARD TURBO CADILLAC 500-WHAT BROKE?
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
BOOST, PUMP GAS & NO INTERCOOLER-WHY WORRY? WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? FAMOUS LAST WORKS? WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR CADILLAC WHEN WE RAN A SINGLE TURBO ON PUMP GAS, WITH NO INTERCOOLER? WE KNOW IT BROKE, BUT LET'S FIND OUT WHAT ACTUALLY BROKE! THIS VIDEO SHOWS THE TEAR DOWN ON THE OTHER GUYS 500 CADILLAC MOTOR AND WHAT WE (MEANING I) LEARNED.
Пікірлер: 280
Glad it was an easy fix!
I let a blown head gasket on a Previa supercharged van sit for years and had a similar issue. I rebuilt and ported the head and valves. The block deck was pitted severely. I did not dissemble the block. Left it in the car. I cleaned the rust out with a red scuff pad. Then hand sanded the cross hatches back in with 600 grit wet and dry. Cleaned out a zillion times with oil and paper towels. Glued the head gasket back on with JB weld in the pits. Surfaced the head .020”it is running to this day 20k Miles and 4 years later. It currently has a custom stainless mandrill bent 2.5” exhaust with long tube try Y header I built for it. Boost with stock pulley is now 2 lbs. was 6lbs. Before mods. I had to install a high flow fuel pump to maintain fuel pressure at full throttle. It has a massive power increase and 4mpg mileage improvement. Does not burn oil or smoke. No piston rattle and 178k miles and going strong. Next up is bigger injectors, matched to Supra airflow meter and custom crank pulley that a made for more boost. Then Supra intercooler. ( free parts I had laying around. So cleaning off rust worked for me.
It will definetly suit to my goals of tuning/racing where my channel is all about I have an Cadillac Seville Elegante from 1980with the 368 block in it now since i need and want more HP this would be perfect, so yeah But nothing too lose, lets continue
This is a great idea, I am just getting into the Cadillac stuff and would love to see more on this engine. If you're going to put it up for a subscriber then I would volunteer, I have a 68 C-10 long bed that needs an engine and transmission to run.
So wanted to see you fix the heads with some fire rings and studs and see this thing make 1000ft-lbs with the turbos.
Great video keep it up Richard . Gm ls lt FTW
LOVE EH. he has i t going on. great honest source of NO BS knowledge.
You threw boost at a 8.1 liter Caddy? LMAO.. That is awesome.
Quick check your distributor. Pop the cap and put a socket on the crank. Wiggle the distributor shaft to feel any play. Move the crank back and forth to make sure the cam and distributor gear are not binding preventing you from feeling the play. Next, grab the advancement weight and pull out ward. You may need to pop the weight spring off for this test. There should be no in or outward movement only left and right circular movement on the pin. Bad weight pins will give you vary early timing advancement, over advancement and erratic timing at idle.
I'm building my 472 (1st build) - please keep testing🙏 Will be seeing Cadillac Co. Later this year👈
I just bought a low mileage '75 Deville 500 engine for my '93 C3500 crew cab long bed truck. YOUR 500 really NEEDS to be in my 2009 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor!!! It's all black and already such a fun car to drive. I already have a name for it... The Coupe DeVic!
A New stroker kit!!! 😄😁😆
Love the auction off idea. I got a few cars a turbo Cadillac motor would be super cool in.
What I learned is if you’re going to delay pulling the heads on a blown head gasket you should probably drain the radiator and run it without coolant to make sure the cylinders are dry 👌
I love the 472/500. I have a 73' 500" engine sitting in the stand for years with a big turbo laying on top. If I had enough time to rebuild it, it gonna take place in my 62' Cadillac and drive the shirt off from the Volvo turbo guys, haha.
Richard, the Cadillac is a very durable engine. Better head gaskets and or head studs would correct that problem. Mainly the head gaskets. The Felpro doesn't have the 'good' fire ring. It will hold up to pretty high cylinder pressures provided the ignition timing is in the right range. But too much timing along with detonation will kill the gaskets quick. Normally at the rear of the block above cyls 7 or 8. They're closest to the water passages. Ball hone the cyls with WD40 and call it good. It'll seal up. I've really enjoyed your series on the 500 Cadillac.
Fire rings and head studs. Send it. 🤘😎
You know this man is pretty good at what he does...I want to see him turbo the Camaro 3.6 LFX v6 engine bet he could take it to new feats👀
Dingle-ball hone + studs for the win!
Yeah buddy, love your videos.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
CALCIUM FROM THE WATER
Derrick at VGG needs this motor. If burnouts is what you want, he’s the man to deliver.
@christophernoto
3 жыл бұрын
That would be quite a drive to pick up a motor!
That is odd that the head gasket was pushed into the cylinder instead of out into a water jacket. This would be a great engine for an old Suburban!
Ball hone and boost
I would bet that it was too much cylinder pressure... lifted the head. Those head gaskets are so weak. Head studs MLS put it back together... with ring Gap and put it back on the dyno. Add a degree or two of timing and close the wastegate... to the top.
david freiburgers caddy gremmy could maybe try it. not sure about packaging
Let's see, I purchased a 80s El Camino to install 500 cid engine in.Was unable to afford the flower car version.Or maybe install it in 85 caddy,get rid of the 4100 engine,or throw it in the 86 Grand prix,.Either way 🤔 we're gonna have some tire smokin fun at midnight of course .Thanks Richard.
I recommend WD40 and scotch bright
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
GOING TO TRY THAT AND EMERY FIRST
@timothythomas1737
3 жыл бұрын
This should work
I had an Acquaintance about 1995 that had a NOVALLAC ( 72 I think?and 500Caddy with 472 heads) it was a Fast Clapper, about 7.50s 1/ 8 mile, I remember he only had about 2500$ in the whole deal! It's was a Torque Monster.👍👍
Forgot to mention stock supercharger is two lobe roots. Electric clutch with decent inter cooler. But system has no map sensor. Uses tps and airflow meter to calculate load and switch bypass valve and supercharger charger on. Ecu also operates AT trans. First pass trans slipped going into second. I changed out fluid to Redline racing and raided line pressure. Spins tires in first and second now once super low stall speed is overcome. Hilarious passing “sports” cars in faded paint beat up van.
@benhowe2087
3 жыл бұрын
Raised
85 short bed c10 ready
Dingle ball it with a ton of wd-40. Good as new.. I'll buy it.. I've got a 97 scsb obs that is just dying for 500 ft pounds off idle!!!
Reminds me of the power plant for Amir Rosenbaum's Spectre Performance land speed car.
Man! That’s quite a bit of rust for that little time of sitting. Crazy
Richard your a genius I know because you stick your toung out at the world and know at that moment the whole world laughs and for a moment their is peace among kaos god bless you
I have a 1970 cadillac that needs a performace motor and I would love to have a great motor that you built.
Pretty sure I would be the only one with a 500 Caddy in a Squarebody in the UK (I'll even pay the shipping). :-)
Richard, I am glad it was just head gaskets. I hope the old Caddy finds a good fun home where it can spend its golden years spinning tires and scaring girls. Long live King Caddy.
Like you said, its just a head gasket. I know some honda guys like like to wire ring their decks with positive set sleeves. Insane overkill on getting the head to seal. What ends up happening is the head can't lift and it hurts something else. If you have a racecar and a spare engine in the trailer that's one thing but for most normal guys the gaskets can act like a fuse to stop you from eating the important stuff.
@shadowopsairman1583
3 жыл бұрын
Some use deck plates to get a longer stroke even.
@timothybayliss6680
3 жыл бұрын
@@Future-Preps35 I like copper head gaskets but they are kind of specialized now. With how good mls gaskets are now guys that build race engines won't use copper unless there is a weak head bolt pattern or lots of power. For this Cadillac engine with its stock pistons I really think that copper gaskets are serious overkill, if you are lifting the head you are doing something that will hurt something that is harder to fix.
3:42 The horrors of not having enough leverage. I was PULLING a wrench toward me really hard, it slipped, and my fist hit me in the mouth. It busted out both my front teeth and cut a big slice in my chin. Scars and bad dentistry caps remind me of this constantly
Oh man I'm a little disappointed you aren't going to use it in the Nova. But then again I'm glad to hear someone else will find it a good home.
Like what you're doing keep it up. But how about borrowing one of those West tec engines and plugging it into your Nova. To quote Friberger you don't have to get it right just get it running.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
292 IS FIRST
You may try evaporust on the cylinders. It is a rust removal soak that works really well in my experience.
Comment for the algorithm 👍
Bet if you'd ran it boosted with the caddy shop heads to a higher rpm you'd not have blown the head gaskets. That's a ton of cylinder pressure at a low rpm. Get the aluminum heads back, stud it and put some real boost in it
Ok,now it´s time for ring gap adjustment
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
ALREADY DID THAT
Dingleberry hone should clean it up enough to run it.
@shadowopsairman1583
3 жыл бұрын
Crosshatching
@thereluctantgearhead4544
3 жыл бұрын
Probably stink like shit tho....
Im in tucson AZ if you pull my name out of a hat, i have a Caterpillar turbo out of a semi that will be perfect for that beautiful motor!
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
ITS FIXED
1) Richard, Please announce the bolt/nut sizes as you are loosening/tightening them. i love your videos. 2) Actually, if you are auctioning it off, how much does a cad v-8 weigh?
@michaelangelo8001
3 жыл бұрын
Around 550#.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
vc-3/8, ROCKERS-5/8, INTAKE-9/16, HEADS-3/4
That motor is going in my 63’ Caddy and it’s gonna shred.
Finally after all these years... someone else that removes the coolant drain out of the block before deheading an engine.. well done 👍
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
WE USUALLY DRAIN AFTER DYNO TESTING-IF HE PLUGS CAN COME OUT
@thewrench324
3 жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 I’ve yet to have one defeat me in 20 years.. hahaha.. would be nice if some engineers would stop tucking them behind accessories etc where you can’t get at them easily..!
I have an 86 El Camino that would perfect for that engine! 😎👍
I just watched this a week ago, I wonder why it just popped up as a new upload.
YOU KNOW SOMETHING, BROTHER... If you tire if, basically, of "Cad-topsies'... Have you ever given any seruous thought to doing insurance co. 'MO-TOPSIES? BIG MONEY THERE! JUST THINK ABIUT IT-KEEPING CLEO AND CAESAR IN BOXCARFULS IF SNASAGES ... And the money IS fabulous, too... As an inspector 38 1/2 cents an hour is BIG bucks!!!
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
I DO LIKE TOPSIES!
Bad news bear Richard.
Lesson learned? Drain the oil and coolant and put some oil into the spark plug holes and turn it over. Saving some work later. Or pull it apart right away.
Super happy it's just head gaskets. +1 for the WD and Emer-y!
Soak that cylinder with PB Blaster it will Eat the rust off several times then wipe it out and repeat then remove the piston and Hoan it! Would make a Stout Engine for a S10 Pickup!
I had a Duramax with rust and pitting in some cylinders from a blown head gasket and sitting, used a stone hone on it and it ran fine, and I didn't even remove the piston
@Wrenchen-with-Darren
3 жыл бұрын
Now that's real world stuff. But, your going to catch flak from the couch wana be builders.
@goodmanboattransport3441
3 жыл бұрын
@@Wrenchen-with-Darren Ya, I didn't really care, it was my working towing rig, and I didn't have the time to pull it apart, I have pics, and never got the pits out, LOL
@jeffreydurham5342
3 жыл бұрын
Wasted time, shoulda just let the rings remove the rust
@goodmanboattransport3441
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreydurham5342 I thought about that, but there was rust crystals growing out of the wall, and the very close relationship of the piston and cylinder head, I decided to clean it up a bit
Love your videos!
You should stash a COSCO folding table in your storage unit.
I’ll put it in my 72 Cadillac hearse and do burnouts for distance, and post it on my KZread channel!
☕☕
What have we learned? If you're storing an engine with a blown head gasket, drain the coolant and run it a dry few minutes. I wouldn't have thought of it but it's good to know. I've honed rust like that out by wrapping coarse emery cloth around the stones. It ain't gotta be perfect.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
THE 4.8L I DID WITH A RAZOR BLADE, WD AND EMERY CLOTH STILL RUNS
I will put it in a fox body mustang if I can get it. Out and great day to you Mr. Holdner.
You blew one fuse and were in the process of blowing the other. Center cylinders are the hottest yo!
Would go good in my 87 short-wide have all the kids in the highschool parking lot looking
Polish those cylinders, lightly and with abandon. Assemble everything back together and keep on trucking !
Need to do a poly 318 next.
Is that a giant manifold on the bench behind you? It looks like it's about 3 feet long and a foot and a half tall. Keep the Caddy, I want whatever THAT goes on.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
SHSSSSSSSS! TOP SECRET
Would love to have that motor. I have a 84 coupe deville with a stock low compression 500 in it right now. It would be a beast in my car.
My kid has a 1974 Eldo enduro race car with a blown up motor a 502. He needs a new motor. We would like to buy it.
That motor would look great in my oliver tractor!
Right on
Big Bang that thing!
Hey i have 1948 f1 that would nice to put that Caddy in..
Cast rods, heavy crank. Won't fit under the hood of many cars. Oiling issues with rear sump. Loads of casting flash in block. Flexplate not drilled for chevy t.c. motor blew up with turbo. Weakest valvetrain going. No steel cranks. Expensive aftermarket parts. Low revving. Etc. Bloodviking
ill put it in my 1994 Chevy pickup i blew the 305 doing a burnout i bout it as my first car i still have 2 years till I can legally drive on the road i want to put a junk yard 5.3 in it one day but id pot that engine in it
A real gearhead doesn't hesitate to teardown an engine in sweat pants.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
IT WAS CHILLY-THEN HOT AF
@karlsracing8422
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@knight0334
3 жыл бұрын
I've done a number in shorts and flipflops. lol
@thegdfp6447
3 жыл бұрын
Layering works, especially up here where a 40 degree temp swing during the day is common.
@thereluctantgearhead4544
3 жыл бұрын
I prefer to be naked when I work on engines.
Awesome
Tools on the floor?! Perfectly good tool cart just to your left. Bro!
We learned never let an engine rest. Tear it down ASAP.
You gonna cut a groove for the next gasket...?..I've got a 92 extended cab Silverado that needs it....😏
This is going to be interesting
Is nobody going to address the elephant in the room??? at 7:40, cylinder number 8 sure looks to have a broken ring land. Unless there is some incredible camera tricks going on you can clearly see the top piston ring, a chunk missing from the piston, and evidence of shrapnel hitting the top of the piston.
@richardholdener1727
3 жыл бұрын
THAT IS JUST LIQUID AND RUST IN THE CYLINDER
i was excited about the cool rocker setup but it really needs more head bolts
Depending on how radical it is, I’d be interested. My old truck could really use some stump pulling power.....
Red scotch brite with gasoline. Then a light hone to freshen the cross hatch.
@b.c4066
3 жыл бұрын
Evaporust lightly wiped on with a rag then diluted with water in a few hours will take most of it off.
The back right cylinder looked like it was suffering detonation. Fuel distribution issue leaning it out?
@michaelangelo8001
3 жыл бұрын
The RR cylinder always runs hot on these engines...
If i had that for my Cadillac it would be the baddest car ever
Seems a bit odd the the second cylinder back on each side suffered from head gasket failure. And the failure was on the intake manifold side of both gaskets.
I’ve been sitting on a 500 caddy for 15 years waiting for that day... it’s going in a 84 Chevy one ton with 34,000 miles that I’m doing a “retro Silverado “ with the 2020 grill/headlight assembly with Denali running lights updated mirrors, 65 phantom Cadillac taillights etc. with 11/2 ton Volvo C303 portal axles and a V-plow themed “yard truck” I’m a humble man but if that ole beauty needs a good home with tough love I’d be forever grateful 😁🤞
Man I would absolutely accept that 500 and put it in my van - and the 454 I'm currently building I would give to someone else...!
Soak the bad cylinders in diesel and atf for a week. Vacuum all the crap out of it and slap it back together without copper coat. It will run perfect. That's a mens warehouse guarantee.
If that cyl can't be saved ( and as long as the piston don't get damaged removing it ) it would be cheaper to sleeve that one cyl back to match the piston that's in it rather then bore and hone all eight plus new pistons plus matching the new pistons weight to the old set being replaced.
@Wrenchen-with-Darren
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed...👍
@bigsean2473
3 жыл бұрын
nah u just do the one cylinder not all of them
@Wrenchen-with-Darren
3 жыл бұрын
@@bigsean2473 yes. As a matter fact, it would make the block weak, to do them all.
I've been preparing for a caddy drag car for years now! I would love to participate in the auction!
Better check that deck for warpage!
What happened to Project Nova ?
From what I've always heard these big Cadillacs are notorious for blowing head gaskets under pressure. I'm sure there are ways around the issue, but that's why I've never tried to turbo one of them. Good that you decided not to install that engine in the Nova... It would quickly break that fragile rustbucket in half. Lol... "big bang" Nova.
You should see what my Ford Vulcan 3.0 V6 looked like after a year of sitting post head gasket failure. It's on my Instagram feed. Ball hone and new rings fixed it up.
Both head gaskets, not just the one... Might want head studs instead of bolts?
@carllmack2287
3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention MLS gaskets
@scotthatch4653
3 жыл бұрын
They don't make MLS for the Cadillac engine ...and studs don't clear the rocker arm retainer
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
3 жыл бұрын
@@scotthatch4653 The Milodon 80291 or ARP 135-4007 stud kits aren't applicable?
@scotthatch4653
3 жыл бұрын
The stud kit fits the motor but doesn't clear the stock rocker arms they figure by that point you have aftermarket rocker arms