Jess making fun of a kid for speaking differently is crazy because Jojo was always getting roasted for her speech impediment on Dance Moms…

@taylornusteling8692

2 ай бұрын

You can feel the hypocrisy.

@Screw.Hairy.Pothead.666

2 ай бұрын

And Jess cried how they were bullying Jojo for how she spoke

@selinalee1077

2 ай бұрын

Ikr

@amandaveiga6719

2 ай бұрын

And she called the moms out for allowing it!

@allisonmarler1199

2 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!!!!!! I was thinking same, like WTF!?!!??? I hope they read these comments

The abused becomes the abuser Edit: I wasn’t saying that this applies to all people in all situations. I said this specific phrase under this specific video because the situation applies. Now please stop fighting in the replies

@j-rodthelibrarykid1166

2 ай бұрын

Not if you have any morals you don't.

@evelynb4135

2 ай бұрын

​@@j-rodthelibrarykid1166 I'm sorry for you getting sa'd but this is a different story no Offense

@Anonymouslittlebee

2 ай бұрын

​​@@j-rodthelibrarykid1166 they were talking about this case. Of course not every victim will become abusers in the future. And also, it's not really about morals, it's more of like a consequence of the trauma itself, makes certain victims to unconsciously follow toxic patterns.

@niwdE25

2 ай бұрын

​@j-rodthelibrarykid1166 this isn't about you tho. Sometimes those who were abused, go on to abuse others because they think that's normal and never learned what they endured was wrong

@jinschnee

2 ай бұрын

Well shes besties with C*lleen so unfortunately not surprising

As Abby would ironically say, "Jojo!!! Have you learnt nothing?!?!"

@spaRKLES88604

2 ай бұрын

Yep I thought of the SAME line

@diongrey5033

2 ай бұрын

@@spaRKLES88604MackZBoss cool

@skylarjohnson7779

2 ай бұрын

Turns out she did learn something and it's not good. I'm not even mad, I'm disappointed.

@marikk00

2 ай бұрын

And now she loves her and now with this that makes me sense

@sissysovereign1294

Ай бұрын

​@@marikk00Crazy how Jojo has become the new Abby

As a disabled person the narrative “I don’t let my disability stop me” is so harmful. Sometimes you need to let your disability stop you for your own health and safety. Plus saying that may encourage others to push far past their limits, something I’ve learned the hard way MULTIPLE times. The treatment of all the kids is disgusting but the treatment of sick and/or disabled kids is barbaric.

@SueP-D

2 ай бұрын

I mean, too, it’s like “well I aM dIsAbLeD aNd I dOn’T LeT iT sToP ME! YoU aRe JuSt a QuiTTeR!” Like it’s a damn contest of who’s the “best” disabled person 🤦🏼‍♀️😡 You do you my Kiwi Friend 😊. You are perfect EXACTLY as you are. Much love 💕

@r3bs

2 ай бұрын

This is how it is in general. The more you look at society, the more you realize how it's designed to kill us.

@Lana-un2qk

2 ай бұрын

It's hard. Don't give up to easy. But think about your health to. It's harder. They are just evil

@JamesSmith-pp5vp

2 ай бұрын

My disability is degenerative and progressive. When I first became an adult I put everything I could into my work and pushed myself to try to be successful. I'm 22 and my body is shot. I can't do half of the things I did at 15. I hate to think how I'll be even at 30 or 40. Don't force yourself to push through the pain and symptoms of your disability. It's not worth it.

@PGOuma

2 ай бұрын

Like each disability is different and has its own limits and even if you share a same disability, you might can deal with it differently than the other person and cope with it differently. It's such a damaging statement and just is used to exploit disabled people. Like sure, don't let it stop you which is why accomodations are being made to help those with different disabilities, but don't let it kill you and dance through a bleeding ripped open wound and such

At this point, JoJo is a walking red flag 🚩

@notacatwastaken

2 ай бұрын

She's a whole red billboard at this point.

@dorisluka2184

2 ай бұрын

True. I don't feel sorry for these kids and moms at all. They KNEW who JoJo is and how it is going to be, unlike OG girls and moms from DM, who were completely unprepared for abuse they got.

@UseURHead

2 ай бұрын

Always was..

@emmyjo720

2 ай бұрын

Using Trump economics...Ripping people off, not paying people and abusing them..

@bluegodfairy37

2 ай бұрын

She's literally planet Mars

Notice how Jessalyn is really the only one who had a positive experience on Dance Moms. Probably because she was the one contributing to everyone else’s misery.

@Memeholic71

2 ай бұрын

ESPECIALLY BRYNN’S

@enriqueolguin3601

2 ай бұрын

@@Memeholic71mhm especially brynns and that’s sick

@pankajkushwaha2288

2 ай бұрын

The Nickelodeon deal was the cherry on top for her

@emmyjo720

2 ай бұрын

I look forward to Christi and Kelly taking them apart..and the crap that Holly and Nia were put through...Maddie, Kenzie, Brooke, Paige, Chloe, Nia and Kendall, were raised to have manners. Despite Abby, they are not greedy either. They have grown up to be productive human beings..Jojo is stuck, has horrible manners, thinks Abby treated her well and doesn't listen...

Absolutely. It’s sickening that JoJo and Jess are repeating history from Dance Moms, something that doesn’t need to be repeated. I can’t believe, even being in that environment, that she’d do this. Sickening.

@dannibookeddan8914

2 ай бұрын

Apparently they’re way worse than Dance Moms

@The_Whimsical_Stenographer

2 ай бұрын

It's because monkey see, monkey do. They've seen ALM in action, and how being nasty makes you money (doesn't speak very highly for people out there these days).

@lethalloveablelibra

Ай бұрын

Considering the way Jojo’s been raised with a narcissist parent, then being with Abby, it doesn’t surprise me…

@sissysovereign1294

Ай бұрын

It really is sad how history is repeating itself here. Jojo's basically continuing Abby's work when you think about it.

@lethalloveablelibra

Ай бұрын

@@sissysovereign1294 I agree with you. It’s a real shame. I used to feel sorry for her cause of the way she was raised, but not anymore. She’s an adult now. And she should know better.

“Tough love” is what abusers say they are doing when abusing people.

@amazinggraciegurl

2 ай бұрын

Exactly! It's literally what Abby would say!

@lesterine77

2 ай бұрын

Not really. Yes it's used by abusive parents. But it's also used my good people. It's hard telling my kids no, especially when it makes them so sad. But the flip side would be to give in to everything and that is a horrible parent. Sometimes, as a mom, I have to be tough when it's the best thing for my child. Now my daughter is almost 17 and we have an amazing relationship. Here's an example of my tough love with my daughter. When she was 11, she flirted with anorexia. I had that and know the damage it causes. I gave her an ultimatum. She eats at least one good meal a day and fruit throughout the day or I have her hospitalized and fed 5000 calories a day through a feeding tube. She eats. This choice is still in effect even though she knows no dr would feed her a 5k calorie diet a day. The other major deal breaker rule is she must stay in contact. If I try to call her and she ignores for very long, I'm going to get scared and she will be grounded. Is that tough love? In my opinion it is. Is that abusive? Absolutely not. Maybe you mean something other than this as tough love, but I think tough love (my definition of it) is crucial to being a good parent.

@CrokusTheDerg

3 күн бұрын

@@lesterine77sounds controlling tbh

The dance mom parallels are HORRIFYING.

@mc-rn8ro

2 ай бұрын

"We were afraid to speak up because our kids might get kicked off the team. We feared legal ramifications. We were under-paid and over-worked. We were afraid to be black-listed." Where do we think Jess learned those threats?

Stopped supporting Jojo when she started becoming a devil’s advocate. The way she attacked Christi for talking about how nasty Gianna and Abby were to Chloe and she defended Colleen was enough for me to dislike her

@crisemm5207

2 ай бұрын

Same jojo era I stopped being he fan! 👍

@mistytostenrude7222

2 ай бұрын

I stopped when she and her mother reneged on a partnership they had with a small dancewear company owned by my daughter's studio owner when she got the Nickelodeon deal

@blesbeauty1018

2 ай бұрын

@@mistytostenrude7222?

@emmyjo720

2 ай бұрын

Gianna is as nasty as Abby. She is the bullies side kick.

@j-rodthelibrarykid1166

2 ай бұрын

I stopped when she's cool with pedophiles

I almost feel like the Siwa’s are worse than Abby. You hired disabled kids for inclusivity points and the worked them to the point of illness and hospitalization, knowing full well what you’re doing is dangerous.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

They went for all sorts of diversity, when the group got down to 3 Jess had said that they were looking for 2 new people. Everyone was speculating that they would hire someone blonde and someone Hispanic as that would cover the diversity (besides disabled) that they had lost. Turns out that the one person that they hired is both (don't know if she speaks Spanish though).

i'm a professional dancer and there is NO excuses in "that's how the dance world is" when you hav an injury you need to rest because you dont want that the injury get worst.

@jalapeno1119

2 ай бұрын

I remember my dance teacher making me sit down during practice (she was VERY anti-sitting) when I was sick. I had to fight through some rough days but when it was serious it was taken seriously. Jojo and Jess have NO respect.

@arual27

2 ай бұрын

@@jalapeno1119 im glad to hear it but unfortunately they are rare..

@comics.9462

2 ай бұрын

Right. That mentality is so stupid because it’s not even how professionals act. The same thing goes for sports, if their best player is injured they’re not gonna make them go play just because they’re the best.

@icedceilin

Ай бұрын

Yeah, my thoughts too. That sounds like it could a one-way ticket to not being able to dance again.

@arual27

Ай бұрын

@@icedceilin exactly

The way Jess completely bullied Brynn Rumfalo on Dance Moms makes all this not very shocking

@SBBunny93

2 ай бұрын

None of those moms are innocent so anything they do isn’t very shocking lol.

@jadynariana

2 ай бұрын

@@SBBunny93 innocent.. no but anything close to jess no from audc to dance moms to now you can see she was always the same and has only gotten worse

@lonegirl2183

2 ай бұрын

​@SBBunny93 They weren't innocent, but most of them had a moral code when it came to involving the kids in the beef between the moms which Jess pretty much ignored.

@marikk00

2 ай бұрын

And Ashlee said in a podcast that it’s ironic that Jojo participated in anti-bullying campaigns and we didn't even know who Jojo really was.

Now i understand why Jojo and Jess are the only ones keep contact w Abby Miller

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

They aren't the only ones, they are just the most high profile ones

Just because JoJo never got a normal childhood and was forced to work in awful conditions doesn’t mean she should force other kids to as well. I don’t understand why she hasn’t already been charged with not following child labor laws.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

Because you don't have to legally pay children for social media (laws haven't caught up and they are still thinking of children being on family channels, not stuff like this). They were paying them for rehearsals and performances, not for the things for their KZread channel, TikTok's etc. If that isn't things that you have to pay for I don't know how they fit into labour laws.

@enriqueolguin3601

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@jadynariana

2 ай бұрын

the moms of those children are at fault too they signed contracts for their kids to be stars after seeing how jess acted on tv and the envirmoent that shows like dance moms created for literally every kid outside of jojo. its 100% not the kids fault but their parents deserve a lot of the blame too for being naive

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

@@jadynariana The thing is that they had to sign the contract for before the show started, the show was pitched as it was the band starting out, getting to know each other etc (the girls thought that they had already got the job). When they started filming that was when they realised that it was an elimination show with the people left being who was in the group (even then they brought back someone who they had eliminated, lots of people think so that they could tick off another diversity)

@jadynariana

2 ай бұрын

@@amandamandamands Was jess and jojo's involvement not in the contract? I only say that because if it wasn't then the only thing ill say is that its still on the moms for signing it without knowing the full details even though that's very common in these situations they're still children

Jess pulled her son out of school during the most important year of his life to chase fame and money. What a sick woman.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

The only thing I will give her is that she did hire a tutor for him so that he finished school. But yes if they had been apart for that long why is it such a big deal to wait another year until he finished school.

@emmyjo720

2 ай бұрын

Did Jojo have any education? Because it doesn't appear she did.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

@@emmyjo720 JoJo was home schooled her whole life (apparently did one semester in 3rd grade at a school). Both Jess and JoJo have said that when JoJo turned up on the first day of school and they did the testing so that they knew where to place everyone she tested at a 3rd grade level and the school recommended that Jess home school her as if she had of stayed in school she would have just been placed with her age group. She finished her schooling when she was 15, I don't know what education program etc they used or if they used tutors as she got older. Jess has said that when they first started they set up an area to look like a traditional classroom and then after talking to other home school parents realised that it could look like whatever they wanted it to. I have randomly heard her say recently that she has dyslexia and that reading is really hard for her so that adds another level to what her education actually was and how it was done.

really sad to see jess and jojo have become an abby 2.0 but i can’t say i’m shocked considering they’ve undermined the other girls’s trauma repeatedly. but also the way she says “trained” at 3:26..yikes

@aviparmy-lthatblinkedoncew774

2 ай бұрын

exactly, like when i first saw the thumbnail i was like "this isnt shocking at all" especially when you see the way she reacted to the speaking out against the mistreatment they suffered from Gianna

@gymnasticsgirlie0647

2 ай бұрын

JoJo has become the poster child for invalidation. She condemned Brooke for not wanting to be friends with Abby online and reprimanded Christi for speaking her truth about Gianna. She has stood by problematic people for YEARS, which has most recently shown up in the way she defames Colleen Ballinger's victims and fights tooth and nail to defend her. Now, it's finally come out that she is abusing her own victims rather than just disbelieving someone else's. She was exploited and abused her whole life and is repeating the cycle. Sad but predictable.

@amazinggraciegurl

2 ай бұрын

Jess always was to be fair.

The cycle continues… the abused becomes the abuser

Everyone always criticised Abby, and I'm not defending her, but if a kid was bleeding in rehearsals or throwing up, Abby would let them have a break. Jess truly is despicable

Them giving brooklyn a dog made me think of when abby gave mackenzie that little white dog malibu during one of the dance moms holiday specials

@gymnasticsgirlie0647

2 ай бұрын

Many specific things listed in this video that the XOM Pop girls went through are direct copies of what JoJo and the Dance Moms girls went through. JoJo alleged that she was more afraid to tell her mom that she didn't want to wear bows anymore than she was to come out to her. Lo and behold, Kinley was barred from abandoning the bows and ankle scrunchies by Jess and JoJo. JoJo also recalled a time where she was so exhausting from performing while deathly sick that she had to be carried back to the dressing room. Viola, Leigha also had to be carried back to the dressing room by her father because she was made to perform while tired and ill. History often repeats itself, but the specific way that it does in this case is almost poetic. It explicitly shows how JoJo is repeating cycles.

JoJo's gonna be writing a "glad my mom died" book in about 10 years

@osky529

2 ай бұрын

Highly doubt it she seems to enjoy inflicting the same pain on others so she would have no room to talk

@mc-rn8ro

2 ай бұрын

Jojo is just as abusive as Jess, or did you miss 75% of the video?

@TeddyPalf

2 ай бұрын

@@mc-rn8ro ...

@jadynariana

2 ай бұрын

@@mc-rn8ro The difference is that she was raised by it and doesn't know anything else and yes some people can grow from it but those people don't usually become billion-dollar brands and millionaires from their abuse. In time she could change and if she does bc she's only 20 people should accept it if she apologizes. Is it likely? doesnt seem like it now but you never know.

@pankajkushwaha2288

2 ай бұрын

I don’t really think so.. cause she’s grown in this environment for her whole life. She inherits this ‘tough love’ abuse from her mother and thinks there’s nothing wrong with it

This is why I can never get too excited when people start praising a child prodigy. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, and if they're being pushed too hard for their age. Health and safety NEED to come before everything else, pushing children to work before getting proper medical clearance is negligent at best.

Penelope and Leah: having major surgeries and aren’t cleared for dancing Jojo and Jess: LAZYYY SLOPPY BORING

@avatiede1512

2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of when Abby made Paige dance with a broken foot and yelled at Brooke for not dancing when she couldn’t breathe

@chrispleasantable

2 ай бұрын

Jess and JoJo are completely showing narcissism, which I hate! They clearly have no remorse for the hell they have put these young ladies through

Something no one has discussed yet that I find particularly interesting - is Jess & Jojo’s lawyer is the SAME ATTORNEY who Tucker Carlson hired. The fact that the siwas would rather spend all this money on damage control/legal counsel over just paying the families in the first place is astounding.

@ashliel4111

2 ай бұрын

Oh interesting! I didn't know that it is the same attorney

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

It is the same lawyer that Colleen used. Would be interesting to know who introduced him to who.

@Eggyeggzalea

2 ай бұрын

Oh that’s…

Leaving another generation of girls scarred. Well done, Jess and Jojo. What a legacy.

I think its funny because Jojo adored Abby and is the only one still in contact with Abby, now look at where they got her. Everyone needs to realize that Jojo is not a good person when she defends Colleen Ballinger and does this now.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

The scary thing is that JoJo isn't the only one still in contact with Abby. Cathy is at least work friends with her again. Kalani has been on Abby's podcast, I think that Brynn doesn't ignore her. Most of the season 8 kids still talk to her too.

@wolfie1234100

2 ай бұрын

And James Charles

@viviennemorgan7217

2 ай бұрын

jojo keeps on supporting those awful people, abby, colleen, Shawne and james.

@miafoor3496

2 ай бұрын

@@amandamandamandsto be fair to the season 8 kids most of them are still minors or barely adults

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

@@miafoor3496 True but another big difference is that they were all really big fans of Dance Moms before being on the show so like JoJo they went into it with the mindset that this was a part of the gig. Another big difference is that none of them knew each other before filming so their arguments as a result were much more surface level and at times the arguments I was laughing at because of how over the top stupid they were. I think it is really telling that Lilly is one of the season 8 girls that doesn't still have contact with Abby and during season 8 she was Abby's favourite.

Proud that she never coddles kids and believes in tough love....wow who does that sound like? 🤔🤔

@Livrockz103

2 ай бұрын

Let me guess...Ruby Franke?

@hnichole

2 ай бұрын

@@Livrockz103 I would've guessed OP meant Abby, but Ruby Franke is also eerily exactly the same way.

@Livrockz103

2 ай бұрын

@hnichole Oh yeah, seriously, these people need to realize you can give a child discipline and some tough love without hurting them and treating them like garbage

I’m glad you covered this. It needs to be seen. Quite ironic for Jess to mock the way other people talk yet she got fired up when Kira mocked Jojo’s speech impediment in season 5…

@sashaking1115

2 ай бұрын

And when Kenzie, Kalani and Kendall made fun of JoJo in Ireland

@amazinggraciegurl

2 ай бұрын

​@@sashaking1115Maddie never made fun of JoJo. She was trying to get the other girls to stop.

@sashaking1115

2 ай бұрын

@@amazinggraciegurl sorry my mistake

What was kind of shocking to me is how suprised people were that Jojo is a pretty bad person. Like for years she's been defending and supporting Abby and Gianna, she hangs out with James Charles and Shane Dawson and when the Coleen balenger news dropped dojo supported her and claimed all the victims were lying. its not a new thing that she's pretty awful

@jalapeno1119

2 ай бұрын

I was willing to give her a pass on some things when she was younger. But she's an adult now.

@faithfm1

2 ай бұрын

Personally I haven't been following her so all of this is new information

It's very telling that they always expected the children to thank them profusely for everything they did as well as low key criticize the Zieglers for not doing that with Abby despite the fact that Maddie and Kenzie have both talked about being in therapy thanks to DM and Abby.....

4:57 one thing a lot of people don’t get is that being a victim can be an explanation, but not an excuse. If we’re holding parents accountable when they “raise” (mistreat/abuse) their kids like they were raised, then we need to hold Jojo accountable too

@jessice293

2 ай бұрын

This 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

@jessice293

2 ай бұрын

It doesn’t stop JoJo from going to therapy and deciding to stop the cycle of abuse and make changes to her life!

@hnichole

2 ай бұрын

100%, as someone who was a victim of childhood abuse, I have so much empathy for anyone else who lives through that experience. It's soul-destroying. It changes who you are as a person. It's something most people can't understand, and it makes you feel like a freak, like you're living in isolation because you can't relate to other people's normal. But even at my lowest, I knew that I would rather die than be like my abuser. To this day, I work with children, and I would die before I did to them what my parents did to me. You make the choice to be different. It's so sad to see Jojo choosing not to be, when she has so much influence and fame she could do such good with.

@greenbeantm1096

2 ай бұрын

@@hnichole I think now that she’s moved away from her family she might start to get a realization. (Keep in mind my OG comment cause I’m tired and feel like I might word what I’m about to say as excusing her unintentionally) as a young teen it was literally a trend online for people to hate her, make fun of her etc. during this time she also largely only hung out with 1) her mom (who I’d call her main abuser) 2) Abby (her most public abuser) and 3) adult KZreadrs exploiting her for views because “Jojo from dance moms is on MY?! channel?”, and a fair number of these KZreadrs have been found to not have the best relationships with kids. If that was her support system while seemingly the world was on a hate campaign against her that’s gotta fuck up her feelings/thoughts about things. On that same note because of the hate I think everyone made her numb to any criticism coming from social media. I obviously do not know her personally so my opinion means less than Jack shit, but I do genuinely believe that Jojo is a good person who has not realized the harm done to her, and in turn the harm that she did/encouraged/allowed to happen to at least the ex members of XOMG pop. I genuinely really hope that her finally and legitimately being on her own will at least open the smallest crack, and then that crack might lead to her getting into therapy, and as unfortunately awful it would be for her, that the floodgates will finally open. Unfortunately no one can make her see the harm she’s done yet, because I truly don’t even think that harm she’s dealt with has even occurred to her yet. I just want to clarify again that I’m am by no means trying to excuse her of anything, I personally have unfollowed her and don’t have any plans to consider refollowing her unless those floodgates open (and I’m still debating where I stand with the actual XOMG accounts cause I want to support the kids but not those in charge of them). But for anyone who does still choose to follow JoJo, please remember what I said about how I think the hate made her numb to criticism from the internet. I’d definitely keep mentioning things, asking for a statement, etc. but at the end of the day legitimate hate I have a strong feeling is going to do way more harm than good.

It's just saddening to me. It starts with the fact that Jojo sees nothing wrong with her childhood exploitation and doesn't see toxicity in other people when it's glaringly obvious. I guess it's pretty normal in artistic sports that someone brought up by a bully coach/instructor then becomes a bully coach/instructor. I guess I just hoped for better and I hope that with her current distance from her mom, she has some realizations.

@sashaking1115

2 ай бұрын

I agree. JoJo just doesn’t understand the way she was brought up is toxic😭😭😭😭

It sounds like they are following directly in Abby’s footsteps. They were incensed when Jojo’s speech was mocked, yet did the EXACT same thing. It’s so gross they didn’t pay those families… $17,000 for 2 years working 60-70 hour weeks is criminal

@rosalieduck1716

2 ай бұрын

2.5 dollars every hour (17000/2/52/60). Total amount divided by 2 years, divided by weeks, divided by total hours in a week. (I don't know for sure if I calculated this correctly tbh, chatgpt said around 2.5 to 2.71 dollars every hour). That's just cruel. In my country they aren't even allowed to have a paycheck of less then 4.31 dollars every hour (Age 15). From 18, you are getting 7,20 dollars every hour (Minimum). A kid here earns more then the parents and kids of XOMG, which is like not right. Especially with the workload they have been given

Did they really not think any of these kids would speak out? It’s kind of alarming that they are that out of touch

@dogboyirI

2 ай бұрын

they had them sign NDA’s (the parents) Anjie refused to though that’s the only reason she’s been able to speak out

It is very upsetting that the cycle has continued. It's no wonder they still have Abby in their lives when most of the dance mum girl's don't. I have only seen a few clips on youtube of the show so I can't comment on the content but it sounds like it was a terribly toxic environment. Jojo has also loudly supported dodgy people like Colleen Ballinger which made me realise what a disgusting person she actuality is. I hope that the girls are doing okay.

I get that Jojo’s childhood wasn’t all that great, but that doesn’t mean that innocent children, some with disabilities, should have to pay for your jam-packed childhood. On that note, children with disabilities shouldn’t be exploited for money. These are children, not pets. There are so many Dance Moms parallels that it’s insane. Dance Moms was toxic and abusive. Why would you want future generations to suffer the same thing? Personal opinion, but anyway I feel like they chose children with disabilities because they knew that they could control them to some degree.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

The only child with physical disabilities in the group was Leigha, Dallas has asthma. Sadie who they talked about was the first person eliminated on the show. It was obvious when they chose who the final girls were that they went with as much diversity as they could. Bella was eliminated early on and was suddenly in the group after the show ended. Speculation is that it was so that they could add on another diversity as they didn't have anyone Hispanic in the group (even had her sing some lyrics in Spanish in some of their songs).

Jojo has become her mother. Sad, but not surprising.

@tns.xcoske

2 ай бұрын

“it’s such a waste when little girls grow up into their mothers face” - Melanie Martinez

@kaidyer8761

2 ай бұрын

Not even her mother she's becoming like Abby

@charlottep4222

2 ай бұрын

@@kaidyer8761I can’t put my finger on exactly why, but the more I learn about Jess the more I think she’s worse than Abby. The vibes are somehow more rancid.

The fact that the little girl talking abt the one at a time rehearsals (Leah?) made the distinction between constructive criticism and what ever those one at a time rehearsals and critiques were shows she knows the difference between critiques and insults. I suspect that if the girls tried to handle the delivery of any criticism with tact that they would be told to be more blunt.

But the problem with JoJo is that she gets so passive aggressive when she gets called out for something. It's only an issue if SHE is the victim of something. I feel bad for the XOMG Kids, they deserve better

it’s actually such a shame how the cycle keeps on going, and it amazes me how jess can mirror so many of abby’s attributes after seeing how it affected her own daughter.

"Until girls began disappearing" lmfao.

the moment they said in the show that they wanted this group to be like a kpop group i know something was wrongs

@jeanneann3545

2 ай бұрын

She is living through the kids, the same way her mom does. If she try to become a kpop idol she will get shamed to death, she built like a square, looks like Jake Paul even more so with her balding hair, and probably have the same personality. Doesn't help that her fashion sense sucks. No wonder she tried to live through other people.

Guess Cindy and Gianna from AUDC were onto something about not liking Jess and Jojo

i expect nothing better from someone who still supports abby

According to brynn the only mother who was actually mean (off camera), and didn’t like her or her mother was Jess

I think it’s a major red flag that in the same sentence talking about Colleen she can deny the experiences COLLEEN, not Jojo had with minors and then say, yeah I became her best friend AT TWELVE! Like one, trying to deny experiences she wasn’t a part of, but two literally confining Colleen had relationships with minors

To quote Jojo “well if you’re gonna yell at me I’m gonna cry”

The amount of similarities between xomg and Aldc is frigthing as xomg is practically an Aldc 2. This is such a good show of how abusive nature can continue through generations. The comments jojo has made about her future child are disgusting though and makes me give her very little sympathy. Because no-one knows what they wanna be when they're 4 they're kids

These girls “were doomed from the start-“ because Jess is a narcissist. And JoJo sees no problem with the behavior of people like (Colleen, James, Abby Miller…) because they are exactly like Jess. JoJo, now a grown-up, is either a narcissist herself (very likely since she was near-exclusively raised in her mother’s influence and the lack of a safe environment that is), or she will have MANY narcissistic traits. She has NEVER BEEN entirely out of the shared-delusion of that a narcissist (here, her mother) makes you live in: one where She is always right, she is always a victim, ANYTHING you achieve had better be attributed to and in support of Her, and if you don’t meet these standards you are BERATED and taught to feel lucky just to get out of that abusive state;; YES the girls were “doomed from the start-“ like JoJo was doomed from the start (and Jess herself, was probably doomed from the start) because narcissists breed narcissists breed narcissists…

Honestly i dont think Jess thinks this is wrong at all. She was the only person i can think of who quit dance moms not due to Abby.

I was waiting for you to do this topic after it came up everywhere, because I know how much research you actually put into these videos to make sure you’re as accurate as can be.

No wonder Jojo minimalizes all of the verbal abuse Abby made her and other students endure… she was used to her mother’s teachings. 😢

It’s so scary seeing Jojo not realizing what has happened to her and now continuing on the abuse that she has been put through. Expressing emotions is okay, it’s okay to be hurt. I hope Jojo realizes what she is doing before she hurts even more people. Jess is the problem here.

I read the Rolling stones article and I wasn't surprised at all the only reason only one of the girls can talk is because she didn't sign the NDA and all Jess and Jojo actions just proves why so many people can't stand her

A victim can be a perpetrator. This is so sad.

JoJo and Jess turned into a mini Abby

There's a reason Jojo kept in contact with Abby for so long: she thinks it's "normal".

The cycle continues, let’s hope she’s not accused of being a groomer like the people she hang around

This makes me sad for Jojo. She went through so much “tough love” and harsh moments growing up that it’s the only thing she knows, so now she is doing the same. It’s what my mom says “they only do/teach what they know”

Thank you for making this video I’m not too sure how many people were aware of this before but I’m glad jojo is finally being called out for the way she’s been using these girls

JOJO! HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING??

she really said ‘imma come back like a boomerang’

This is scary. It shows that things haven't changed since the days of dance moms. Child exploitation, overworking of minors and kids being fans of creeps (Not the kids fault obviously). I understand being around terrible people, overworking and strict teaching is what JoJo has been through when she was a kids. But she needs to know that what happened to her was not okay. Also as an LGBTQ+ person, can we have one big internet celeb who isn't problematic with minors.

I see why she defended abby now...

She's talking about all this like she's proud of it. Like no girl that's not okey. Not for you, not for others

I am shocked , that Jess and Jojo were rude , abusing , and saying nasty things to the kids. The one thing that's disgusting is that Jess and Jojo don't care at all with those kids , and how they're treating them. I hope the kids are doing okay and I hope they'll never see Jess or JoJo ever again.

We’ve all been waiting for this episode. All the girls deserve justice

It's really unfortunate that JoJo wasn't able to learn from the mistakes of the adults around her. I hope at some point she's able to realize that her childhood was not normal and she shouldn't be continuing this pattern, especially since so many young children idolize her

jojo and jess also bought kinley a puppy in dec of 2022 (then heard dallas also got a puppy from them) clearly they tried the ziegler treatment with kinley as she was arguably the favourite and having her in pigtails with scrunchies to stay as cute and young for as long as possible being marketed as the new mini jojo. i can guarantee the girls were compared to kinley aswell as kiya was on SDPR before kiya dyed her hair. also kinley was the one who brought the views as arguably again she was the fan favourite along w leigha so i assume they tried to keep the cutesy stuff with her to get the siwas money.

Honestly jojo is turning into the next abby Lee miller she has to be stopped

I used to watch Jojo Siwa and it was odd to say the least. Xomg Pop just seemed a lot weirder and darker.

This is a tough situation, I feel bad for Jojo cause she went through explotation, but at the same time she should know to break the cycle

Pausing dance moms…. To watch dance moms uncovered.. I love your channel and I appreciate all your hard work 💜😊Aussie fan

Now THIS is a topic that needs to be discussed more. You’re great for bringing this to peoples’ attention

As someone whose partner worked in this industry, this treatment is the norm. I need people to understand how this isn't a rare thing AT ALL. Keep kids out of the spotlight.

@jalapeno1119

2 ай бұрын

Yep. It's normal. But still not okay.

@r3bs

2 ай бұрын

@jalapeno1119 Yeah. It's not okay, but I think people figure there are "good stage parents" or "healthy child star" environments. There aren't. There are no "good people" in children's entertainment.

@r3bs

2 ай бұрын

My point is that the entire industry needs to disappear. It's built on exploitation, and everyone should be side-eyeing the people involved and looking for warning signs.

@laurenmaxell5917

2 ай бұрын

Yup, completely agree. I'm my country kids are quite well protected. Yes, we don't get child stars, but atleast we don't exploit them.

@r3bs

2 ай бұрын

@@laurenmaxell5917 Yup.

my new favorite channel…i binged almost every episode in the past week

No bc she is an abby lee miller dupe…. And I would argue she is even worse bc she is doing this all under her own will, without producers forcing her to act a certain way

I actually was surprised at publicity shots of the Dance Mom reunion. JoJo seemed to be hosting.

I’m actually not surprised.. JoJo still says she got succes because of dance moms and that she is greatfull for Abby Lee, basically saying she is happy that she grew up in an environment where most of the girls have gotten huge trauma and don’t ever want to talk about. JoJo & Jess now doing the same thing fits in how I picture them… idolising and talking good about an Abuser, to being one too. Although for JoJo I’m just a bit concerned or sad as well.. she might have never been in a real save environment. If Jess also teached her dancing trough screaming and punching her kid trough pain, then JoJo might not know a different way of training.

Jojo was failed by all the adults in her life, and is now continuing the cycle of abuse.

So disappointing. I hope Jojo is able to unlearn the harmful behaviors that was normalized to her. As for the girls, I hope the girls who left have the best new opportunities. And the current members, If Jojo and her mom cant change their ways hopefully they leave too. The girls are all so talented. Jess and Jojo just destroying their own group.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

The girls who have left seem to be doing great things and having other opportunities, you can find them all on social media.

The part when jojo made the kids say rude things to each other reminds me when Abby did that to her.

It's like Jojo and Jess learned about Lou Pearlman creating NSync and Backstreet boys and thought it was a how-to manual...

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

I'm wondering if they even know that. They wanted to create a group version of JoJo now that she had aged out. It was supposed to be a new project for Jess now that she didn't have to be on set with JoJo anymore. Watching the group there were so many things that they should have had sorted out before they formed the group that they were still playing with and changing even in the second year.

Is that Leigha from Alyssa's/Justin's Beyond Belief Dance Co.? Also, Jojo has clearly drunk the Kool-Aid and thinks that the treatment she faced as a child was justified due to the position she is in now. It is also reflected in her saying "that's just how the dance world is". That is exactly what people said about USA gymnastics until over 150 girls and women were in a court room giving victim impact statements. These discourses and narratives are so dangerous because they encourage children to stay (and parents to keep their children) in toxic or ab*sive environments.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

Yes it is the same Leigha and as she said Justin is tough but not abusive. I am so glad for Leigha that her home studio is supportive.

this is just dance moms pt 2. all they’re missing is pyramid

just a quick clarification re: mall of america concert - MOA is in Minnesota, not Michigan. we have horrid winters and get waaaaay colder than michigan, its hard to breathe outside when temps are -30F (which is not as abnormal as it may sound), those girls are at no fault for having breathing issues if they were exposed to that and not acclimated to the ice-air. doesn't explain the nausea and throwing up (maybe poor care from the company?) but you absolutely dont want your lungs dealing with MN winter right before you have to go sing and dance your ass off like that. mine are freeze-burning just thinking about my lungs heaving in frozen air, not being able to consistently get enough oxygen through poor circulation due to the cold, and then having to go dance and sing a full show. the body often can't hydrate the dry cold air in those situations leading to constricted blood vessels and narrowed/tightened airways and lung spasms. i wish better for them.

Thank you because I've been waiting for a good breakdown video of this❤

jojo and jess are like abby 2.0 and jojos like the only girl still in contact with abby 😂💀

It's so sad. Jojo's just replicating the abuse that she saw Abby dishing out. The way Dancing Pop Revolution was structured, with the inter-competition, the mom drama, etc. was basically Dance Moms 2.0.

And the cycle repeats itself, I knew this was gonna end horribly but I have like the slightest sliver of hope that maybe Jojo could break the abuse cycle in the entertainment industry and it sucks to see how she’s just adding to it.

i've been waiting on you to cover this! love your commentary!

I was watching dance moms a few days ago and Abby told Jess, she is raising a monster. I guess she was right! I also think Brooklyn and Dallas have powerful voices and you will never know because of those kiddy songs they sing. Being in that group is definitely hindering their careers.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

They have also been on BratTV shows Chicken Girls and Mani. They aren't bad.

@Vell3rdw

2 ай бұрын

@amandamandamands I know that they’ve been on chicken girls and Mani. I don’t get how that’s relevant to me saying their voices or not being showcased the way it should be.

@amandamandamands

2 ай бұрын

@@Vell3rdw It is relevant to your last sentence of saying that you hope it doesn't hinder their careers. They all say that they want to be triple threats and I was saying that they have done other things. I have no way of knowing how much of their career that you have followed. There will also be other people reading these comments that don't know.

@Vell3rdw

2 ай бұрын

@amandamandamands it’s still not relevant to me or my comment I was literally talking about their singing careers I truly didn’t think I had to put singing careers because I was talking about their voices in the previous sentence What I was saying was being in that group will hinder their singing career because of the kiddy songs that they are singing

@Vell3rdw

2 ай бұрын

@amandamandamands All you said was they were on two shows and said they aren’t that bad I truly do not see how that connects to me saying they voices or not being showcase and singing those songs will hinder their careers context clues should’ve brought you to me talking about their singing careers not what shows they have been in and what’s not that bad the shows the songs the group what’s not that bad because if it’s the songs do you really listen to “sparkle sparkle sparkle pop” and think that’s a good

I don’t think “tough love” truly exists OR works as it’s supposed to, it’s just cruelty and in worst cases full on abuse. maybe you can get one kid to do what you want using those teachings but that’s because you are traumatising them into complying and not giving them the option to ‘fail’, they live every second with that pressure on their back they don’t have space or time to ‘do wrong’ or fall behind but just because you get the behavioural outcome you want doesn’t make what you’re doing any less abusive and wrong

Makes sense why JoJo is still the only girl to this day who gets along with Abby and visits her.

We, as “fans” and viewers, need to hold ourselves accountable. Jess has made herself very clear in her mindset and dynamics way back since AUDC. She was clear she wanted fame, attention, etc, and was going to make sure Jojo was there along for the ride. Sure, some of it could’ve been edited, but the patterns were still evident. None of this is really shocking. Yet, some still wanted to continue to support Jess and Jojo despite all this… will this be when enough is enough, or are we gonna wait for more situations to occur?

@youthought1343

2 ай бұрын

Remember this when the reunion comes out lmaooo

they need to be taken to court.

@christinathewolf6547

2 ай бұрын

Exactly sounds a lot like child labour to me.

Tbh I onew once they said "we love abby" gave me this suspicion that they loved this kind of abuse.

JoJo is still friends with Abby, its no surprise JoJo is taking her qualities. She was exploited as a child both by her family and then Abby, no brainer that it influenced her in a bad way and she is doing the same to other kids

Been waiting for this!!!

Your mom should be the one person who comforts you and is always on your side.