the fact that stacey is a psychologist is so disturbing! she understands what this is doing psychologically and emotionally to her daughter better than anyone, and yet she still does it!

@amandamandamands

2 жыл бұрын

Lilly's dad is a psychologist too and as time goes on is in more of the content, her brother is her editor.

@Rachel-xu4br

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, of all mothers you'd think the psychologist wouldn't be doing this to any child, especially their own. However, she was also the one who "diagnosed" Yolanda and joking about all her different personalities. People don't need to be professional all the time, but that was a red flag to me when it first aired. "You have a doctorate that's scary. I feel so sorry for your patients." Never thought I'd agree with Yolanda.

@l3xagabrielle776

2 жыл бұрын

@@amandamandamands 😬

@burni988

2 жыл бұрын

That's so true. Sad.

@melissanicole4357

2 жыл бұрын

Not everyone graduated top of their class

Her dad calling her a Victoria Secret model is absolutely wild

@carrieb204

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It is sick that a father looks at his teen daughter that way, sick!

@MandysLittleLife

2 жыл бұрын

Totally gross.

@jennacampbell7

2 жыл бұрын

yep.

@chungleanne2690

2 жыл бұрын

wait why i dont get it

@Margot_Lazarus

2 жыл бұрын

that was one of the worst things in the video. as a grown adult if my father said that to me I'd feel so wrong

Does anyone else think it’s super creepy that Elliana’s dad said she looked like a Victoria’s Secret super model???

@makendestewart

2 жыл бұрын

yes, it was very disturbing

@amybess

2 жыл бұрын

Took the words out of my mouth

@daisygiraffes.9969

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I forgot abt that! Idk her personal life but I am so afraid of what is going on in her personal life

@rmstrumpet1

2 жыл бұрын

I literally was about to say the same thing. 🚩 🚩 🚩

@elissa.perkins

2 жыл бұрын

YES! that was very disturbing! he could of just said she looks very beautiful or something like that.

93.5% of Piper's following are males?! that's HORRIFYING.

@AmandaPaige71

2 жыл бұрын

It's true for most of these teen girls as well. It's beyond distributing bc their parents and sponsors know these analytics when they sign them up to hock their merch. It's gross.

@will2778

2 жыл бұрын

Well obviously? 93.5% of a male teen influencer followers would be female.

@gentledreams6398

2 жыл бұрын

But when the audience is significantly older than the teens it’s gross

@BABob-hr8bd

2 жыл бұрын

How many of the viewers of Dance Moms do you think where pedophile males? The producers knew they were a huge target market..

@JavelleElaine

2 жыл бұрын

@@will2778 I’m guessing you’re not seeing the issue here because that 93.5% of viewers watching a male influencer are teenaged girls. The statistics of the men watching these girls are not teenage boys. Look it up. I can also give you the statistics of male pedophiles vs female pedophiles and show you where the issue lies and why one gender is far more sexualized and objectified than the other.

I feel terrible for both Elli and Lilly. Their childhoods are being ruined by their mothers, who are clearly living vicariously through them. Especially Yolanda, she literally lets Elliana do anything and that's just so scary. I'm honestly so concerned about Elli by looking at her instagram pictures. I'm glad you covered this topic. People say "It's none of your business! Stop hating on them! You're just jealous!" NO! What is there to be jealous of? Do you really think we'd be jealous of children that are just being used by their mothers for money? Children that are probably told to wear scandalous outfits just for the fame? NO! We are just trying to help protect innocent children because their parents have failed them. It's not the girls' fault. It's their mothers'. We are not hating on the girls, so the so-called "fans" of the Piper Rockelle squad should just shut up because they are part of the problem, not the solution.

@chi7927

2 жыл бұрын

yes.

@chi7927

2 жыл бұрын

@Peppa Pig that's one of my worst fears i feel so bad for them i hope no one else will experience this.

@stanroseasifshesyourlast5523

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@kxliep

2 жыл бұрын

rmb lilliana is only 13 and elliana is 14 and they are literally wearing “mature” clothes bullied on social media… i hope this is shut down soon…

@maplemaple626

2 жыл бұрын

@@kxliep Yeah I agree

The info about The Walmsley family is beyond disturbing and ghastly to say the least a lot of darkness and dirty laundry in that family. I 100% believe Yolanda is abusive and controlling but I also believe Luke did some serious messed up things to Elliana as well. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree I truly worry for Elliana and how this will impact her when she’s older especially when we all saw what happened with Amanda Bynes, Lindsay Lohan, and Britney Spears.

@urmom266

2 жыл бұрын

Also janette mcurdy i feel rly bad for her

@pankajkushwaha2288

2 жыл бұрын

Yep this is really gonna affect her mentally, and she really will have nowhere to go or what to do. Cause she’s hanging out with her friends but they will go overtime.

@pixsdomain4886

2 жыл бұрын

Jakeob probably disassociated himself from the rest of his family.

@edie2005

2 жыл бұрын

agreed. i always got this bad vibe from yolanda

@shoshoneagle

2 жыл бұрын

No kidding. Not to mention i think elliana said she was 18 months old when she started dancing 💀

I’m glad someone’s talking about how toxic Pipers channel,team,and audience are

@Gamingwithanna301

2 жыл бұрын

It’s all over KZread

@sarxxly8817

2 жыл бұрын

I used to not like piper because I thought she was acting to old for her age and then realized that she never wanted to be like that. I honestly feel so bad for these kids to be through things like this.

thank you for covering this topic no one talks enough about the impacts of social media on kids (that get recommended to me). I have done research on the impact of social media on children since i first posted this comment. I have also seen other videos about how social media can affect kids but not many of them focus on certain people.

@rebeccastockton3904

2 жыл бұрын

If you are interested try watching the dad challenge podcast

@rachelkibler5812

2 жыл бұрын

Literally I’m 18 and wouldn’t wear, say, or do what these 13 ish year old kids do

@beautifullvega

2 жыл бұрын

They don’t care :(

@earl_gay

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people do, but most just aren't listening

@helpsaveparker7648

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see if we could get a petition going to see a dance video movie choreographed by anyone except abby lee. The "group" could pick the style of dance, the music, costumes, come up with the theme, etc... and we could have a dance special show or make it a movie or whatever. First group: Maddie Ziegler, Mackenzie Ziegler, Kalani Hilliker, Jojo Siwa, Chloe Lukasiak, Nia Sioux, Camryn Bridges, Paige Hyland, Brooke Hyland, and Kendall Vertes. Next Group: Ava Coda, Sarah Reasons, Sara Hunt, Tea Adam's, Kamryn Beck, and Jade Cloud. Third Group: Sophie Lucia, Asia Monet Ray, Ally Serigne, Bella Hoffheins, Chloe Nguyen, Daviana Fletcher, Fallon Chapman, Kaeli Ware, Talia Seitel, and Payton Ackerman. Fourth Group: Vivian Stein, Nicaya Wiley, Haley Huelsman, Chloe Smith, Tara Johnson, Zac Torres, Erika Schrade, Taylor O' Lear, Sarah Parish, Brooke Shore, and Madeleine Underwood. Fifth group: Gino Cosculluela, Justice McCort, Lucas Triana, Jalen Testerman, Nick Daniel's, Brandon Tolbott, Bryant Culler, Evan Gorbell, Gavin Morales, McKenzie Morales, Hadley Walts, and Ashton Roth. Group Six: Maesi Caes, Peyton Evan's, Mia Ciociano, Areana Lopez, Alexus Oladi, Alysa Owen, Kendyl Fay, Coco Quinn, and Kaylee Quinn. Last Group: Lilliana Ketchman, Kamyrn Smith, Savannah Kristich, Pressley Hosbach, GiaNina Paolantonio, Hannah Collins, Sarah Georgiana, Brady Farrar, Paris Moore, and Berkleigh Hernandez. Again just one dance per group, no abby lee miller or gianna martello and ABSOLUTELY NO COLLINS PRODUCTION INVOLVEMENT. The point of this would be to let the world see what they can really do. Pick a theme, have fun, show off your dance skills, makeup skills, acting skills, performance skills and entertainment skills. I think it would be a positive fun dance special to do, especially because everyone from dances moms says it was so awful and negative and stressful. So I say get any choreography, any costumes, any theme, any music, any - Just let's see these dancers creatively express themselves as artist with no one restricting them. What do you guys think?

It’s not even JUST their moms. Why isn’t Jordan Matter looked into as well. He is usually there for most of these weirdo challenges with his own kids. I used to love him back inn his ten minute photo challenge days but now it’s like he give me the ick

@FaithDrachenberg

2 жыл бұрын

thank you for bringing this up omg. i don’t see nearly enough people questioning him

@timeistime121

2 жыл бұрын

i used to watch Jordan Matter as well when he posted those 10 minute challenges, they were fun. Until he realized his young daughter is easily exploitable.

@KSMaxiefan01

2 жыл бұрын

I used to like his videos until it became all about the dance mom girls and/or his kids especially his daughter when he realized people liked watching her. It’s horrible and he’s a grown man

@ECPAdvocates

2 жыл бұрын

I used to think Jordan Matter was cool too, but I lost interest in him.

@teardropsonmyguitargentlyw7982

2 жыл бұрын

In some of his recent videos, he is always promoting zoom calls with his audience and giving out his phone number and asking people to call him, which I think is really creepy considering he’s a grown man and who his audience is.

Yolanda and Stacey are the poster moms for exploiting their children. The OG moms had their flaws but in the end they at least cared for their kids safety and always supported whatever choice they wanted. Yolanda and Stacey are putting their kids in danger and risk causing permanent damage to their mental health.

@MotherofWeePigs

2 жыл бұрын

Except for Mackenzie and Maddie's mum and a few others

@emt07

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotherofWeePigs okay that I can agree on but the majority I think their doing pretty okay I haven't heard anything recently bad about Maddie except her weird relationship with sia I don't know if their still in contact with each other im just glad that she's moving on to better things ig for kenzie im just enjoying her music lol

@subwaysurfers1508

2 жыл бұрын

N and Ch and JJ seem the most OK and grounded and least focused on outward appearance. Zieglers have had some bumpy moments, and it seems like Melissa at times was too blinded by stars in her eyes. But MZ is killing it and has found her artistic path. And KZ seems to be having an awesome time growing up. (PH and BH got out early and have really good parents). As for KV and KH… Hope KV gets her degree, I have so much hope for her. She has a really good support system, but I hope she (and KH) separates herself from creepy brands like Bing, I don’t think any parent should have OK’d that. I think KH is realizing she wants something different. Hope she opens a studio, becomes an instructor, starts an online membership program, etc. So many of us would support her art and pay for chance to learn from her 😭 her new learn to dance videos are awesome and hope she continues them. Heart absolutely breaks for Eli/Lilly, it’s a true horror show/Dark Mirror episode to see their KZread/IG feeds… almost unbelievable, until you really think for a moment about the industry they were thrown into at too young an age by parents who were aware of the costs and still willing. The OG moms/dads had no idea what it would turn into. Parents who would see the show and the hysteria around reality influencers and still sign up, are sus. The shows themselves are also sus, along with the producers/managers/sponsors/etc. Reality TV and influencer kids NEED protection and regulations and all this has to stop. Feels like YT doesn’t care one iota.

Lily’s Mum is just gross! She’s fixated with her daughter’s appearance and popularity. She even tried to insult lily by saying she had a flat chest!!?! What even!! She’s a child you should be protecting! 🤮

@Julie86Mac

2 жыл бұрын

the fact she is a psychologist is so disturbing! she understands what this is doing psychologically and emotionally to her daughter better than anyone, and yet she still does it!

@themonalisa8819

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf where did she say that

@MotherofWeePigs

2 жыл бұрын

That's disgusting!

@ninabayer4135

2 жыл бұрын

She never said lilly had a flat chest lol and I think it is way worse with Ellie and her mother because Elli can do and wear anything she likes while lilly is not allowed to wear "too" revealing things (that Ellie wears sometimes)but just crop tops and is not allowed to do everything she wants (for example her mother forbids her to have a boyfriend at that young age while Ellie already had one or even more)

@mandeel1100

2 жыл бұрын

One time a couple years ago I reached out to her to let her know that perverts were reposting her child's picture with really terrible comments. Rather than protecting her child she just blocked me

Yolanda actually disgusts me. Stacey too. Jess, while I don’t agree with how she pushed JoJo, I think did it because JoJo said that’s what she wanted to do. Yolanda is borderline a predator herself just for allowing Elliana to be in environments with destructive and disgusting people… hell Yolanda herself is likely abusive. I have always hated Yolanda and always will.

@j-rodthelibrarykid1166

2 жыл бұрын

Yolanda's shady as hell. I wonder if Elliana will defend her forever

@abbythings

2 жыл бұрын

yolanda is 100% abusive

@brianagarcia8546

2 жыл бұрын

I think Jojos mom obviously cares for her, unlike these moms, but she’s been telling Jojo she was going to be a star from a very young age, so I think she still pushed her to be famous.

@badmanicpower

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianagarcia8546 oh DEFINITELY pushed her. Buy you can tell Jess wants her to be successful in life. I’m sure coming from Nebraska, they didn’t expect to be where they are now, and Jess wants JoJo to be set for life. I think Jess’ intentions are good. It’s these other moms (Yolanda & Stacey) that something about it just seems so evil.

@carrieb204

2 жыл бұрын

Yolanda has brained was elli, so she might end up always defending her unless someone can get her away from Yolanda

When Ellie first came to the show, the thing I loved the most about her was how absolutely off-the-wall goofy she was! She was so goofy, and innocent, and sweet, I LIVED for Ellie interviews. To see her so tailored and self-deprecating now completely breaks my heart. She deserves to be 100% her own person and to know that she is safe and loved.

The fact that Pink talked about this and got bashed for it is another thing we need to unpack, these children don't even know the danger they're in and chalking it up to loving what they do. This is not okay, these children need to be protected because adulthood is going to be a spiral, it's very rare that a child star that is very popular comes out okay unless they take a step back from online content and social media. I literally fear for children because it's so obvious the grooming is right in front of our eyes, there's a reason why you have to be a certain age to do things, I understand that we are trying to build positivity but protecting your child is far more important, the world is not safe so don't rely on someone to protect your child. And don't think we can stop evil, avoid it where possible. 93.5% of men watching your child? I'm literally sick just imagining what they are in front of their screen doing while watching a pubescent girl, THIS is NOT okay.

@SavannaPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Some of Piper's videos actually got removed from youtube but still ALL of those parents need to be investigated.

@emt07

2 жыл бұрын

@@SavannaPlays frr but because their making good content and attracting all the views youtube won't do anything about it- i mean come on her comments are still on on most of her videos while for me I do youtube my comments are always off because " i have to follow community guidelines" make it make sense youtube the math ain't adding up-

@SavannaPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@emt07 yeah your right.

@randomahhuser

2 жыл бұрын

And then her young audience will back her up and defend her not knowing that she isn't influencing young kids the right way

@SavannaPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomahhuser yup exactly, I don't personally hate them, but I just think they should be more disciplined.

If you don’t have a positive voice in your ear telling you that you’re worth more than your looks and your social media, you can go down a really dark path. That’s what worries me especially for Eli. It is a losing battle. There will always be somebody prettier or thinner or more popular. Learning to value other things about yourself in the TikTok age is a critically important lesson.

@meep2026

2 жыл бұрын

amen.

I don't like how Jordan Matter enables Elliana. I have other problems with him too. Like how he still has a working relationship with Abby Lee Miller, even though he *knows* the shit she put her former students through. Seems like lip service to me how he acts sympathetic to Nia and Brynn who have been deeply emotionally harmed by Abby, but he turns around and collaborates with Abby anyways. I also don't like how he uses his children as clickbait. He used to make his son do crush videos all the time. Now he's using his daughter Salish. I think it's weird for a parent to encourage a bunch of strangers to ship their own kid with another kid. Things like your children's first crush and their first kiss should be a private affair.

@kl4227

2 жыл бұрын

THIS^^^ WHY HASNT ANYONE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS

@glogggggg

2 жыл бұрын

On top of that he generally is a public nuisance and is extremely inconsiderate to the people around him 😕

@amandamandamands

2 жыл бұрын

Talking about Abbey, it is really weird that she does videos with Pipers squad - I know that she has a history with Ellie but they are still usually the kind of prank videos that the squad do all the time.

@alial.1419

2 жыл бұрын

I agree so much. Ich used to watch his videos, but the more fame he got the weirder his videos got. I don't know why nobody is talking about him.

@jxl4262

2 жыл бұрын

I started to get really bad vibes from him a while back - he didn't always used to be like this honestly. But now he just creates content for views and it's very evident. And the fact that he's a full grown man and is always hanging around children doesn't sit right with me either

The older I get the more protective I get of younger girls, and I just wish I could protect these girls from this horrible world. They're too young to be losing their innocence like this.

@taylortaylor4985

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that

Every time I see Elliana these days it makes me sad. She’s just a glaring reminder of so many problems within our generation.

@Kiwi-gn8tf

2 жыл бұрын

Not just our generation but also how many creeps are truly out there and how bad some parents are

I’m really concerned, not just for Eli, but also for any teen influencer. They seem to always fit the “perfect body” which could lead to eating disorders to maintain that, possibly something that Eli could have dealt with

@hufflepuffprincess7347

2 жыл бұрын

They are dance moms actors

I feel like people fixate on Ellie and while I believe she does have some suspicious content, Lilly’s scares me more. Ellie’s videos are all tied back to the squad while Lilly doesn’t have that excuse. Lilly does these videos with inappropriate content all on her own. I doubt her mother, who is a PSYCHOLOGIST, doesn’t know about the predators that are likely watching Lilly’s videos

@abbythings

2 жыл бұрын

lilly's socials are managed by her mom. based on this video alone it's pretty evident that stacy unfortunately doesn't care about lilly's well being. in fact, a lot of psychologists are psychotic themselves

@ninabayer4135

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is way worse with Ellie and her mother because Ellie can do and wear anything she likes while lilly is not allowed to wear "too" revealing things (that Ellie wears sometimes)but just crop tops and is not allowed to do everything she wants (for example her mother forbids her to have a boyfriend at that young age while Ellie already had one or even more). And also Lilly does not even really do inappropriate Videos because the most she does are funny pranks on family or friends, vlogs or even Videos with like mini brands or other stuff for like 5 years olds.

@rhythmicelegance4670

Жыл бұрын

@@abbythings I have a friend who has his PhD in psychology from an Ivy league school and even he says the same thing, that so many in the field are train wrecks themselves.

Interesting topic. While im not fans of some of these girls, its interesting to see these case studies and how these girls have struggled to navigate social media

@enriqueolguin3601

2 жыл бұрын

Intresting to know also is the og girls were starting off with social media .. but these kids grew up with it and are part of it in a young age. I feel all of them didnt have that passion for dance but more into just being known.. that’s kinda sad. Or maybe they lost it and saw social media as a faster funner way to make money.

@gwenopt

2 жыл бұрын

@@enriqueolguin3601 right! It would be interesting to see the ogs perspective as well! I remember when they all actually made social media accounts. It was a high deal! Now, its kinda expected for you to have one and a following as well. i think the passion just comes down to the individual and their environment, like she said in the video a bit. Who you are can be shaped by you environment and your environment can have a large impact on who you become.

Yes! I remember when Annie/Jules LeBlanc (from the channel Bratayley) and her family moved to LA to pursue this similar LA influencer lifestyle, her dad said that they would drag her at 12/13/14 years old to industry parties and then sit in the car while they were inside with moguls, producers, etc. and encouraged parents looking to create this lifestyle for their own kids to take them to those parties and sot in the car and read a book. Idk how this is not investigated as abuse and dangerous. LA has been well known as an unsafe place for minors but these parties are definitely not playing pin the tail on the donkey and there’s definitely alcohol and heavy influence and he as an adult was not only transparent about this, he was encouraging other parents to let their own pre-teens go to the parties while they read a book in the car like they were in the car pool line at the local middle school waiting for school to end.

@MotherofWeePigs

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god that's child abuse!

@Afmedic85

Жыл бұрын

That's what Drew Barrymore was doing at 12. She ended up in rehab before she was even in high school

Elli and Lilly's moms are so obviously just trying to be relevant and get their kids rich and famous no matter the price. Even just the fact that they signed them up for dance moms, and then revealed later that all the drama was fake but they still got into screaming and physical fights in front of their kids and let Abby abuse them. A 7 year old doesn't understand that's "fake", and the girls have said themselves they got mental health problems from it. And now that the show's ended they're doing everything they can to keep some of that relevance, even though the audience may be filled with predators.

i feel like with elli‘s brother we also have to consider that his behaviour is only because of his mother‘s abuse. like if you are being stressed out, controlled and abused his reaction can be the only way you sometimes think that you can be resistant and help yourself.

@hannahpollard9297

2 жыл бұрын

I do see where you are coming from there and I do agree, but unfortunately it has been speculated that he sexually assaulted her when she was 5. So unfortunately I believe that her brother and mum are just as bad as each other

@MarkyMcOliver

2 жыл бұрын

He sexually assaulted her repeatedly as a child and regularly makes death threats to her and her mother...the man is a criminal

All I’m saying is if my dad called me a Victoria secret model publicly on social media… I’d be mortified.

The comments from Ellie abt her being self critical on her dancing, is actually her mother. I experienced this first hand last summer during “The Dance Awards” and i had been “talking to Ellie” and she was saying so much abt how she sucks at dancing and how her regression was so apparent. It ended up being her mom and her mom had responded to so many comments saying the same shit:(

@kaitlinbilous4605

2 жыл бұрын

"Sucks at dancing" Competing at TDA...

@taylorharvey6091

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlinbilous4605 yea i’m aware of what she said, but this particular year u didn’t need to qualify because it was all online

@kaitlinbilous4605

2 жыл бұрын

@@taylorharvey6091 it's still the Rolls Royce of dance comps from what I heard. (I'm from Ireland so I wouldn't know as much)

@taylorharvey6091

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaitlinbilous4605 yea it’s the most prestigious but dancers from all over the world competed since it was online. a lot of them were horrible lmao. anyone could compete so it didn’t rlly count as much.

@avieebvlogs8018

2 жыл бұрын

That’s horrible, her mom pressures her a lot and it’s not fair on Ellie.

The environment around the Piper squad seems to be extremely toxic

@kayseecoward7571

2 жыл бұрын

I am still in shock by the fact she gave kids alcohol- Melissa, Jill, and Kira wouldn’t even do that

@Nora-xl2xs

2 жыл бұрын

@@kayseecoward7571 Yes I agree! There is no way they would we done that

@avieebvlogs8018

2 жыл бұрын

It is very toxic. Hunter and Tiffany are not good people, I wish the Piper and the Squad were able to get out of that whole environment.

this makes me sick to my stomach. why have we created such a culture in which children can't even be children anymore?

I’m happy that you talked about this. This isn’t safe and healthy at all. They want to grow up so fast because it’s what they see in social media:/

@edie2005

2 жыл бұрын

exactly.. it’s tragic :/

If you are a parent and you are literally willing to put your child through all of this just for a couple of bucks (money or no money in general), you don’t deserve to be a parent. No excuses.

@MotherofWeePigs

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

The only tiny critique I have is the mentioning of Abby being a felon as the reason why she shouldn’t be around Elianna. Her charges weren’t related to the way she treated her students. I think the civil suit from the Hylands would have better reflected why she shouldn’t be around young children. Anyways, your research and content is enlightening as usual! ❤️

The way Elliana and Liliana dress for 13 year olds is completely inappropriate. I don't care if y'all say "Oh a bunch of kids dress like that now" It shouldn't be that way lol, It's inappropriate. Social media has brainwashed you guys into thinking that is okay and it's not you guys are being groomed by social media and it's sick.

@chloeemary

Жыл бұрын

I see where you're coming from, however, I personally believe they can wear whatever they want (they live in the US), and to try and put that up for discussion, goes against their right to self-govern (their autonomy). I think the bigger issue here is that their parents are continuously putting them in harmful environments (irl or online) as children. Parents who appear to care more about money/looks than their children's safety.. it's very unsettling to me

Wow it’s really scary hearing all of this I hope Ellie stays safe

ALSO THIS IS IMPORTANT! Please note that Piper's GROWN brother is the one who edits all their videos - he creates those "provocative" thumbnails and video titles. He's also the one behind the camera, the one who encourages them to act how they do, and the one who comes up with video ideas. This is incredibly disturbing if you watch some clips on the squad's channels.

@avieebvlogs8018

2 жыл бұрын

YEPP. I was looking for someone to say something about that! I always see people commenting about how Hunter “does so much for these kids” when he is in fact exploiting them on the internet. His ideas are weird and disgusting, and so many people give hate to the Squad; especially Piper when it’s really Hunter and Tiffany. He acts like that on camera so what does he act like when they aren’t even filming?

@jxl4262

2 жыл бұрын

@blue chimera where did u find this info? that honestly sounds super disturbing wow

@jxl4262

2 жыл бұрын

​@blue chimera wow... i just read the court case and im at a loss for words. it's even worse than i thought. pipers mom NEEDS TO BE BEHIND BARS. this is so crazy, i hope the other kids win the case.

@joshs7160

2 жыл бұрын

Piper doesn't need any help in this department.

@jxl4262

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshs7160 what??

just seeing these girls dressing like they're in their 20s when they're only in their teens makes me feel so uncomfortable like just enjoy being a kid, don't rush growing up and the fact that the 93.5% are creepy old men following these underage girls on social media is just sick and heartbreaking

@joshs7160

2 жыл бұрын

No one said they were all old men, that is just statistically improbable. lol

@emilyyamasaki4968

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshs7160 i don't think they mean old men as in literal old men (like senior citizens) I think they mean like men way too old to be liking that (adults).

@shimmer4771

2 жыл бұрын

The woman kissing a minor on camera. Disgusting!

I had no idea that Jess is still on Jojos bank account! That is craziness 🤯🤯🤯!

@leena75

2 жыл бұрын

Jojo is an adult, unlike Britney, she has no conservatorship going around. If she wants to leave it this way, its her decision.

@amandamandamands

2 жыл бұрын

She hasn't been 18 for that long, I am sure that there are a lot of 18 year old's where that isnt' the first thought when they have their 18th birthday if they aren't living in a dysfunctional household. Jess is also JoJo's manager, if she has been looking after the bills for JoJo then it makes sense that she has access to the account. When you listen to their family dynamic JoJo still very much asks if it is OK to do things and respects her parents even though it is in reality her paying for everything.

@Beelzebubby91

2 жыл бұрын

I just turned 20 a few months ago and my mom was connected to my bank account until just recently. It’s not shocking. Her parents probably set up a bank account that all her money went into that she would have access to at 18-21 years old.

@shabnam414

Жыл бұрын

@@amandamandamands I have my own bank account and I am 18

@amandamandamands

Жыл бұрын

@@shabnam414 I didn't say that people can't and don't. When I started working I set up a bank account without needing my parents signature. The account from when I was a small child though I don't know if/when my mum's signature was removed before I closed it. JoJo is also a bit of a different situation in that Jess is/was her manager and they run XOMG Pop together.

Excellent conclusion for topic 3. I feel like the fandom definitely over looks the danger some of these girls can actually be in and the types if people that may be attracted to them. And of course none of these if there fault, but it still needs to be discussed and monitored.

any parent who watched dance moms and still decided to bring their kids onto it clearly care more about money and fame than their child’s safety. because how do you watch dance moms and then decide “yes! this is perfect for my kid!”.

@caitlingill

Жыл бұрын

Yeah because I did dance as a kid and a preteen and when I was like 10 (back in 2014) I asked my mum if I could audition for dance moms or at least take lessons at ALDC, and she said something along the lines of “first of all, you’re not on a top level like those dancers. Second, of all, I don’t want you being in a weird and toxic environment like that.” I cried for DAYS but now I understand why she made that decision.

Thank you for covering this! I have been watching a lot of video essays regarding the “teen influencers” and by far Piper’s mom is the worst. I don’t blame the kids because they are just kids but these parents are terrible. Jojo’s mom provided the blueprint in my opinion and it just got worse. Each year its gotten worse with the amount of shock value videos from each of them. I can’t believe the moms would put their daughters in danger of predators and other deviants just for a slice of fame. These kids are gonna look back and regret everything they’ve done in their child/teen years.

Please Ellie has changed so much over internet

The dad challenge podcast and the whole community over there is incredible. Children cannot give informed consent at least until the age of 16-18. The exploitation of children on the internet need to be stopped

@daria5846

2 жыл бұрын

Even 16-18 is young

@joshs7160

2 жыл бұрын

@@daria5846 You're an adult at 18, for better or worse. I'll agree that 16 is much more borderline.

@daria5846

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshs7160 Legally sure. You are an adult. But there's no magic that mentality turns you into one the minute you turn 18. There's a lot about you that's still very immature and child-like.

@carolinewatson

2 жыл бұрын

Legally, anyone cannot give consents until they are 18.

@joshs7160

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolinewatson ummmm no? you're thinking of porn

Julia Boateng also has videos on both Lilliana and Elliana if anyone wants more info about this ❤️

@pixsdomain4886

2 жыл бұрын

I love her videos!

@izzyc127

2 жыл бұрын

I love her channel!

I worry that Eliana will end up going in the same direction as Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes etc.

Honestly I don’t hate any of them but I feel like the one that is pressured the least is Pressley, she is always seems happy and isn’t pressured that much. I honestly feel like Pressley is also very close with her family including cousins and her vlogs don’t look like she is forced. Her videos also aren’t that bad unlike Eli’s, Lily’s and Pipers.

@spiritwalker9903

2 жыл бұрын

I can't stand that she always has her tongue hanging out. I think Presley likes old men drooling on her. That's why it appears "she likes what she's doing". Eli is more mature.

@taylorharvey6091

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritwalker9903 pressley is sooo mature. she doesn’t post anything inappropriate..

@maplemaple626

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are kinda right. Though in my opinion, Chloe was the most age appropriate regarding this stuff. When she was their age her posts and videos were all age appropriate.

@Mxshy_

2 жыл бұрын

@@annaleisgoode3 yea indeed but in her yt videos everything sounds so fake and her mom just wants all of the money

@Mxshy_

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritwalker9903 agreed

We all know how child actors turned out who were exploited by adults. These parents have traded their kids childhood for a paycheck. A child shouldn’t be the breadwinner of the home.

@moonwalkerangel7008

2 жыл бұрын

Not just child actors… child performers/stars. After all some child singers have also been exploited by their parents. The entertainment industry still has a long way to go.

That part where Jess is talking about how she would wake Jojo up because she needed to post made me so sad/angry. Let your child be a child, stop trying to make them into influencers. I was watching Julia Boateng's channel where she also did a video on Piper and her squad, and boy is Piper's mom one sick individual. There was this one girl who I guess was supposed to be apart of the piper squad but her and her mom left and said no because Piper's mom basically wanted full custody of the girl who at the time was 12. She is also the one who is behind the pairings (Lev/Piper and Jetzen/Elliana). It's really sad too because like Gavin said, you are pretty much cut off from the real world. And if you leave the piper squad you are not allowed to talk to anyone from the squad, which is what happened to Sophie Ferguson.

@izzyc127

2 жыл бұрын

I’m also a watcher of Julia Boateng and I agree with everything that she puts out!

I feel like way to many people hates on the children, when it isn’t their fault

This is NAUSEATING. thank you for covering this. I'm speechless... this might be the most disturbing video you've ever made.

Oh my goodness, thank you so much for covering this topic

Who sends death threats to a *10 year old* … what the hell

And you can compare what these girls are doing vs what Brady and Savannah are currently doing. Elliana can claim she has lost her passion for dance but I don't belive thats true she has regressed because of not training and so she hasn't gone back to it.

@aoifem7596

2 жыл бұрын

The sad thing is, she has always in my mind been just as talented as Savannah and Brady, and I thought she was going to really destroy the dance world for many years. She wanted to dance forever, and suddenly she feels as if “she’s achieved everything she can in it”. I do think she spent a bit more time doing non-dance related things, regressed, and lost motivation that she was regressing. Either way, I hope she is happy. Her life sounds incredibly insane and intense, and I don’t think it’s a good place for anyone, not to mind a child.

@kimberleyharris8300

2 жыл бұрын

@@aoifem7596 oh absolutely she was a phenomenal dancer. It's such a waste of talent. She is worth so much more than what she is doing now, it's just a shame she hasn't been told that.

I love that I’ve seen more people making videos about this because the whole situation with all these kids has been bugging me for a while

Wow, it’s so ironic you decided to release this today. Just yesterday I found that same video by DadChallenge podcast and then went on a deep dive about the history of exploitation with these young teen girls. As a mother of two, this deeply disturbs me. Your own flesh and blood should never be a cash cow for your family. The primary role of parents is literally to PROVIDE for their children (amongst other things)! It shouldn’t be vice versa! Another duty is to protect them from these destructive environments. I understand you could say “oh, but the child wants to do it,” but frankly, it doesn’t matter. They’re still underage and do not understand the long-term ramifications of being exposed to the public on such a wide scale. You as the parent need to have that insight and protect your children. I would rather have my child come to me at 30 and say “you never let me be a star, you ruined my life,” versus “you exploited me online for years, you ruined my life.” This exploitation of minors online is becoming far too common, and it's about time that parents/legal guardians are held legally responsible for exposing their children to such a toxic environment at such a young age. I don't blame these poor girls; I blame their parents and whatever their motives are. If I could say anything to Elli, Lily, or any of these other girls, I would just want to give them a hug; their hearts are more valuable than their appearances, their social media following, or their salaries.

This is so depressing. Thank you for bringing even more light onto this dark topic.❤️

I was just thinking about elliana and I saw your video. Your a great youtuber who honest and displays the behind the scene evidence in a manner thAt doesn't come across as gossip

I feel sick to my stomach. These mothers are deplorable (and their father, too). These girls will grow up into maladjusted adults whose self-value depends upon strangers liking their posts. This is like watching a trainwreck in super slow motion.

Thank you for bringing this up. It’s so sad to see what happened to elli

Wow. The worst part to me is the parents willingly setting their own children up for these dangers, all for the sake of a check. I feel so bad for all of these kids.

Is anyone investigating Piper's mom after these claims and police report??

@SavannaPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Like seriously. The authorities need to pick this up

the info about piper's mom is absolutely horrifying

@ciaralee1864

2 жыл бұрын

It’s nice to know that you have more brain cells than these parents despite not having a head

@sorrynotsorryxoxo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ciaralee1864 😁😁

1:20 THATS SCARY BRO.

I say this so often, I work in healthcare and everything is making me seriously concerned for the impact social media has on the developing brain. I feel for them. So deeply. I hope there is more focus on this in the legal realm to protect youth from predatory practice 💕💕

I’m the same age as Piper, born in the same year and she’s only a month older than me so I’m in a way growing up with them. I feel like these girls go through so much and they don’t deserve this. Even just being a normal teen girl or pre teen girl on social media is difficult. Social media changes the perception you have of yourself to the point where it is a known fact that young girls are being affected by having access to social media at a young age. I feel like these girls just deserve to be normal and they shouldn’t have to be subjected to this . It’s hard enough to be a regular non popular pre teen on social media. Us teens go through enough and we already have enough to stress about just from our daily normal lives. I’m so sorry to all of the young girls who have been exposed and exploited for social media, you don’t deserve the way you’ve been treated and it gets better.

"Plus she still talks to abby.... Who is a felon" ...im sorry i cannot 🤣

Goodnight to everyone expect Piper Rockelle’s mom, Yolanda and Stacey.

@izzyc127

2 жыл бұрын

And Jessalyn

I really hope these issues result in new legislation that protects minors from being exploited like they are their parents' possessions.

Thank you for making this video. Its sad that that the people that are supposed to protect and take care of you exploit their kids this way. I hope that Elliana and other teen influencers do well in their adulthood. If u see most child stars such as the Olsen twins lose interest and disappear from public spotlight because of the exploitive nature of the entertainment industry and also the lose of their childhood.

Just one comment on Luke: boys/teenagers generally don't do things like this unless they, too, have been victims of abuse or maltreatment, themselves. I'm not in any way excusing his behavior; I'm saying it is horrible, and also a red flag that other horrible things have likely happened to him.

@raveenaminhas8375

2 жыл бұрын

also the fact that he was only a "ten" year old doing something like that shows he had a disturbed upbring

@quietworld2267

2 жыл бұрын

@@raveenaminhas8375 Yeah I'm still wondering why someone as young as 10 would do such a thing? Where would he learn this from?

@raveenaminhas8375

2 жыл бұрын

@@quietworld2267 it makes me question if Yolanda did something different while raising him than the other 2 kids which seem typically normal. Perhaps he didn’t get as much attention as Yolanda had invested in Elli.

@quietworld2267

2 жыл бұрын

@@raveenaminhas8375 Honestly tho, it all seems strange especially with Ellie's dad calling her a victoria secret model. He is saying that about a 14 year old which seems very off.

The only people I blame are these kids' parents. They should have put a stop to this. And Piper's mom.......that's a whole other level

@marikk00

10 ай бұрын

It’s sad but it’s true her mom be more a woman than a normal mother

Remember that you are only a kid for so long. I'm 16 and i would NEVER do that. I have two years left until I turn 18. Don't rush to grow up. You guys are young. You have your whole life ahead of you to be grown. Think to yourself: how will this affect my future and how will this impact the people around me?

I truly wish this was a weekly episode because your reporting is honest, important and very positive. I love it. The only thing I don't like is waiting until your next video. Lol. Do you also have a podcast? I would follow that for sure!!!

Thank you so much for talking about this It truly needs to be heard Pipers mom is so abusive thats why I rarely watch their videos anymore

Omg this is the type of video I’ve been waiting for. Thank you honestly. This stuff is just sad and it needs to be brought to light.

I've been dealing with this, I want to have a platform where I can raise awareness and advocate for the disabled/LGBTIQ communities, and yet I'm constantly struggling with this toxic culture we have here in New Zealand, of praising and rewarding people who have literally used their wealth and privilege to achieve the same goal with hardly any effort, and the most upsetting part for me is that half of the ideas and campaigns are literally identical to my own ideas, literally word for word, I've become so obsessed with trying to out do and show these people up for the exploitive scum they are, but in the end it's just lead to me feeling exhausted and depressed, and angry, because I don't understand why I'm not good enough. Truth is that I will never be enough for these people, in order for them to be able to see that they have to put aside their prejudices and assumptions about people who are working class, or on the disability benefit and they will never do that.

@moonwalkerangel7008

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like that happens in Australia. But please do not feel discouraged. I think that we as an entire human race rely on materialism/commercialism that we often forget that there are still inequalities and those who are greatly affected are minority groups such as the LGBTIQA+ community, the Indigenious people and people with disabilities. We are divided by the haves and have nots and those who want will go to any lengths to get what they want, even at the cost of other people’s lives that we have forgotten the basics of human decency. (I am not sure where I am going with this as I am not always good with putting my views down.) Until we as humans make a better change to give everyone equal treatment, I am afraid things will never change. But I will say that no matter what, you are enough so don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

I remember a dance moms clip where Elli made disgusted reactions after watching The Irreplaceables team perform The Last Dance. Fast forward a few years later she's faring even worse.

Finally someone says something. So many little kids look up to these girls for all the wrong reasons. Please let your kids be kids. They shouldn’t be growing up as 18 year olds at the age of 12. When this happens, your kids are much more likely to get into trouble and hurt themselves. Not to mention, sexualizing any child is horrendous. These girls are being put in a dangerous situation before they’re able to handle it.

This is one of the best and most eye-opening videos I've ever watched. Sometimes I wish I could be famous but this video has changed my mind. What I've learned from this video is that the reality of being famous is that you are seen by good people, but also by bad. You are forced into situations that aren't always good but sound good because they involve money. None of us are perfect, but being famous means that people see everything you do, good and bad. I wouldn't want the public eye to be on me when I make mistakes!! Thank you so much for making this video, you are extremely mature and I deeply value your content.

What's so sad is no mater how many of these videos are made, no matter how many people call out Piper, Elliana etc. for this behavior - it will continue. Nothing has stopped it yet, not sure what will. We can be outraged, but what can we do?

@moonwalkerangel7008

2 жыл бұрын

Well as Bailey Sarian says “get better idols”. In other words, find someone different to follow. Influences rely on audiences right? Well if they don’t have the platform/audience, they lose views. Yeah I know that there will always be those kids/creators with problematic behaviours, but we do have a choice in who to watch.

Thank you so much for this video!!! Everybody watches these things and even the aftermath, the drama and yes, even the girls that aren't a part of it any longer, talking about the tough time they went through and some of them still do.. But nobody is actually talking about what this whole business thing is and how they exploit children from their youngest age possible for being in front of the camera. Sick!! So, thank you so much for raising awareness ❤️

Thank you for making a video on this it concerns me so much x

This is soo sad 😞 they are kids , they have all these years in front of them and don’t understand the consequences of what they are doing now.

i’m so glad you’re covering this

yes. im the same age as them and it feels so weird knowing what they have went thro. and i feel sorry for them. its not easy to be in the public eye. And its so much harder growing up in it. I can never imagen that.

A while ago when I was younger I had a fanpage of Piper / for the squad, one of the squad members had been kicked out and I had no clue about it. I was young so I didn’t know, and I wanted to support that person. I commented on that persons posts and said I support them and “Piper” messaged me (It was Tiffany) saying something like “You were supporting a bully! We keep our circle small if someone isn’t part of it it’s for a reason.” And I was told to leave the fandom / that I’m not a part of it. I was like 10 and had 200 follows so I’m confused why Tiffany wasted her time to message me…I said I was sorry and I unfollowed the “Bully” and she said I was allowed to be back in the fandom. 😭 Tiffany also sent a picture and it was probably a screenshot of me supporting the person but I didn’t get to see it since my parents would check my phone and they saw it and I couldn’t see it anymore…

@ericleblanc9263

2 жыл бұрын

omg I'm so sorry...

Omg is so cool to see you making a video about this, love the different content. I’ve been watching them for a while and only reasonly saw the hurt in their actions

Thank you for speaking up about this🙏❤. I'm a follower of Josh from the Dad Challenge and am so appreciative that more ppl r finally waking up to the dangers of the influencer world for kids.

tysm for talking abt this issue. social media is scary in general and i do feel rlly bad for elliana piper and everyone else mentioned (even if they are not mentioned and are experiencing this)

Thank you for your in-depth, well-researched coverage on this and so many other topics. The general public has little to no understanding of the dynamics you cover - you are doing a public service.

Another great and informative video! I didnt think id be able to get into this video but I definitely found it super interesting.

i would love to see more on this topic as this brings awareness. thank you so much for doing this so people can get a better understanding of the damage this brings young girls

i was waiting for you to do an episode about this!!

I feel horrible for Ellie! Who in their right mind woul scare her at age 9! she already had abby on her back now more stress! And i feel she needs more reality checks ( in my opinion )

It has always bothered me why Eliana and Liliana are always wearing or doing things that are not age appropriate....they are so much different from the elite team....i must say some of Abby's teachings have really helped them maintain their decency....ps it's normal for Jojo to share her account with her mum because she is her manager

@shabnam414

Жыл бұрын

I would say it is important that Jojo have some independence since she is almost 19

I’m not surprised with a mother like that, that Eliana’s brother would have a lot of problems. Also, Eliana may defend her mother, but abused children will commonly praise and make excuses for an abusive parent, even as adults. Umm, and the Dad telling her she looks like a VS model? That is disgusting and beyond inappropriate for a father to say to his daughter. Yet more stage parents willing to sacrifice their child’s health, safety and emotional well-being to feed the parent’s ego and greed. She’s 18, correct? Girlfriend…get a lawyer, delete all of your socials, go zero contact with your “parents,” have the lawyer make sure you get your money, and run for the hills.

Been waiting for this 💜

I was waiting for this one! Im just really worried about her

This was so interesting! Thank you for sharing, I didn't know about this!

They should put in an age range for influencers making it illegal to be younger than 18 years old to have a massive platform

you did a beautiful job on this. it truly feels like you care.

THANK YOU for covering this. I am appalled at the outfits these young girls are wearing. It’s sickening actually. Do none of the fucking parents know how BAD child trafficking is?