Jake Gyllenhaal's Steroid Cycle - What I Think He Took For Southpaw
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I don’t think we’re expecting a “what Robert Pattinson took for The Batman” anytime soon lmfao
@fathel9221
4 жыл бұрын
@@thatjackedwelder he's just trolling he does that for every role.
@varunkamal91
4 жыл бұрын
@@fathel9221 He should be dropped.
@lespour1
4 жыл бұрын
Jono Vizion dude killed it in King
@fathel9221
4 жыл бұрын
@@varunkamal91 it's pr
@danielrnuttall
4 жыл бұрын
Jono Vizion Dude Robert Pattinson is a fantastic actor. You should see him in The Lighthouse and Good Time. The guy has done a complete 180 on his career. He’s even in the next Christopher Nolan movie...that’s got to mean something.
He never said he only had chicken breast and brown rice.He's probably a natural.
Glad you talked about the pump and lighting. People forget how perfectly these shots are filmed. Imagine you physique with an insane pump, perfect lighting, all oiled up... like you’d look 50% better than you actually look.
@johnbernard918
4 жыл бұрын
Guys who dont take shirtless selfies for snapchat dont relize how lighting, angles, and editing make the difrence
@RobinHood-vy7ss
4 жыл бұрын
John Bernard Right! There’s like a perfect standing position where you go from muscular in shape guy to holy shit his physique is insane
Jake: Trains for months to look like a pro boxer Derek: I mean if you just look at his physique its really not that impressive.
@AB-su7jt
4 жыл бұрын
well most boxer physiques are not impressive
@technicaljiujitsu3399
4 жыл бұрын
And most of them are on Clen and EPO
@user-ig8vm1ns4t
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to have that physique 😂
@johnwickson5036
Жыл бұрын
lol 😂
@flakooalvarez5917
Жыл бұрын
Ahh that’s not true Lmao… world champs don’t look like everyone else…. When you talk heavyweight or light heavyweight sure…. But any other weight class they usually come out ripped… not to mention I’m sure they would whoop youre ass looking like a fat baby so stop it
The first time i experienced muscle memory i was shocked, stopped working out for a year and gained it all back in a month. Crazy
@jimmyteflon9562
4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear once gyms rekon after lockdown
@joshwilliams6517
3 жыл бұрын
Week 2 out of quarantine right now back in the gym and the recomp is REAL.
@VictoryOTP_
3 жыл бұрын
Stopped training for close to two years. Started back on an actual strength training program after never having done one, only athletics, and not only was I shocked at how quickly I got my strengrh back but how quickly I exceeded it.
@TheAcdcnz
2 жыл бұрын
Really?
@bigroncoleman11
2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but you clearly weren’t very Developed if you gained back all your muscle in one month.....
Based on his BS pseudo-philosophical answer about boxing training & how he actively avoided to answer to whether or not he actually *trained* to get that body I think we can conclude that he was engaging in some extracurricular activities that helped develop his musculature
@magnusdeadliftson7149
4 жыл бұрын
He was definitely supplementing his income
@ryanm.8386
3 жыл бұрын
Natural Hypertrophy, agreed.
@Vegeta68041
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's clear as day that he did something. Getting the most jacked he's ever been for any role with supposedly no muscle stimulus outside of push ups which would be anti-muscle building if he did to much of them[there are many guys that go into say the army and end up LOSING muscle due to cardio and calorie deficits though they do tons of BW training]. Also another support of the argument that I'm surprised Derek didn't bring up here but brings up in basically anyone elses natty or not is recovery on these mind boggling 2 times a day 6-7 days a week body transformations chicken broc and rice bullshit that all these actors do. You would NEED anabolics to recover properly and not just be a mess.
@HagakureJunkie
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously you never boxed before. I was never more ripped in my whole life than when I was boxing.
@ismaelwali9809
2 жыл бұрын
@@Vegeta68041 if you can't recover from 2 times a day, 6 days a week then you probably aren't paying attention to recovery
The best physique I’ve ever had was in my prime of boxing. I was low in body fat and absolutely shredded. My cardio was insane and my muscular insurance matched. Iv since taken a year off and focused on hypertrophy weight training and even with an optimized diet hitting my macros and training 5 days a week consistently, I look nothing like I did boxing. And when I was boxing I never touched a weight. Like someone else said in the comments, boxing gains are just different.
@taintedunicorn3551
Жыл бұрын
Late comment but, the competition and the fact that you are actually fighting will have a definite effect on testosterone, its measurable effect.
@iLoveOrtzi
Жыл бұрын
Nothing special here, with abs & was focused on powerlifting while being lean. I touched boxing for a few months and holy mother the workout it gives your shoulders & obliques was insane. Some light muscle soreness on areas I had never felt before. 1.95 BW bench with strict technique and I still saw insane gains with the boxing.
@Rednada88
Жыл бұрын
i don't agree with this. very few boxers in the lower weight classes have impressive physiques. boxing is just a lot of cardio. without a pump, most boxers just look skinny.
@dr.loomis4221
Жыл бұрын
What's muscular insurance?
@johnjames9359
Жыл бұрын
@@dr.loomis4221 endurance* not sure how that typo happened
He was on a little something. Small amounts of the right compounds to give him that subtle knotted look. Full naturals, lifetime naturals have a softer look to the skin. He is a multimillionaire with a buffet of options, you would be a fool to go into a role like that without some supplemental boost, regardless of genetic potential.
@Universally_Savage
4 жыл бұрын
I agree... its its something! But prob justva oral or test base with a cutting compound to finish
@kickinwinghotboi883
3 жыл бұрын
Would you also agree that you can kind of see a difference in the skin of people who are natural vs people who juice? I feel like people who juice, their skin looks a certain way
@user-ig8vm1ns4t
Жыл бұрын
@@kickinwinghotboi883 everyone knows that, or I least I hope they do. There’s a term that people use to refer to the skin of someone who roids. “Dick skin”
@joaoaires1457
Ай бұрын
Exactly and not to mention that is very hard to stay like that natural training twice per day, is almost impossible. Natural body don’t work like juiced bodies , natural need more rest to grow and get big
You did not give us a direct answer but what I noticed is you did give us enough information to form our own opinions. I like that.
What’s with actors taking roles that require their peak physique right after a role that needs them to be malnourished and super downsized
@TrueFilter
4 жыл бұрын
If you’re not a natural big appetite guy staying heavy is exhausting. Maybe reacting to that and also a different challenge.
@billwayne6775
4 жыл бұрын
Some Dude makes them look better as a actor the transformations their willing to take for the role then everyone talks about it in amazement. It’s great self promotion especially around award season
@justinandrews520
4 жыл бұрын
For Oscar cred
@tomstoj
4 жыл бұрын
Cpamoi Lafait but rich
John Krasinski Steroid Cycle for 13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benghazi! Great video!
Think at his age and the leaness he has in the timescale he did it, that he had perhaps a small amount of help. Also algorithm 🤷🏻♂️
3:15 that transition was hilarious 😂
@Bit2brain
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a super tight transition edit. Well done.
@ethanmaxwell2235
2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised more people don’t mention this
@dr.loomis4221
Жыл бұрын
The one at 3:18 is even better
Awesome job brother!! I have wrote Do southpaw on alot of these vids you do.I think you hit it spot on.. I think his muscles have that anabolic look for his peak (shots) something oral last 4/6 weeks of filming probably 👍💪
Been waiting for this one......I was first to request it! Nice one bro 👍🏻😁
Tbh though if you compare his body in Southpaw to some of the best boxers in history, it's very comparable, he said himself that he began prepping by boxing. If you compare a lot of boxers there is a baseline bodybuild kind of like how a lot of pro marathon runners look physically similar to each other as far as their bodies look. Not to mention Jake Gyllenhaal is a method actor it wouldn't be illogical to say that before these scenes he decided to do a weight cut that actual fighters have to go through.
Hi there , assuming I stopped my test cycle after I got to a size I was happy with . How long till you start loosing the gains? Cheers
He's natural. having a boxing lifestyle(which includes eating) and adapting to it is a very good way on developing muscle and losing/gaining weight. Also, he is already fit and active during hir young years so it is no surprise that he can achieve something like that. Comparing it to a pro boxers physique on a specific weight class, it is very similar, so pretty much natural. He probably didnt just box, he may also had proper diet or ate a lot for the role.
@lexgeorgeou6518
Ай бұрын
You don't pack that much muscle on at that age w/o gear. I have a degree in this :)
In my experience, when I stop working out and "rebound" later on. I find it MUCH easier to pack on extra muscle quickly. Almost like newbie gains... but not quite that good
Nice vid! I would add 'if' he truly was doing only body weight exercises, as he gained weight back it would kinda replicate progressive overload. Especially if he put 20-25ish lbs on, it's a bit slow, but that probably parallels some people's return to weight lifting after they've become detrained (depending on where they started)
been waiting on this one for a while, cheers
I have to point out that Jake has superman width shoulders, even in Nightcrawler he looks to me like a big guy, and he can't seem to lose delt shape even at that weight. Also, as pointed out, he's not actually that big in Southpaw, but he does look totally shredded. I spent a good few years boxing at an amateur level, training intensely three days a week, and noticed a lot of tight muscle in only a few months. With Jake's physique, training intensity and correct diet it shouldn't be difficult to look as ripped as he does in Southpaw, drug free.
He's super lean in nightcrawler so it's possible he was dehydrating himself for these shots like how they get pumped for shots in other cases. Then like you said the muscle memory and paying for an insane trainer to keep you on track and I think it's possible. He's natty imo.
*Were you lifting?* *Starts shaking head compulsively* Man you would think the guy asked him if he thought his sister was hot lol
@kodfish1985
4 жыл бұрын
Ye.that reaction alone made me think he used something
@lostinsauce4515
4 жыл бұрын
His sister is hot tho
When you say he might have taken anavar, do you mean alone or it is implied that it is with a Test base? I wish you made a video giving you opinion on the necessity of a test base regarding DHT derivative test derivative or nandrolone.
3:23 some good editing, the mirror closing on the picture of Christian bale was great
Chicken and broccoli, boys! Chicken & broccoli!
@BAAAKSEEEN
4 жыл бұрын
My chicken is pharm grade is that better?
@varunkamal91
4 жыл бұрын
@@BAAAKSEEEN UGL has higher protein.
@codythedoggo7671
3 жыл бұрын
And brown rice :D
Also Hollywood uses CG to retouch actors in some scenes to make them look a certain way. Camera angle and pump as well make a big difference
I think its natural, he didn't have to lose any fat, I'm the same age as JAke, I have been running every 2 days as I gained a gut, started 2 meals intermittant fasting and have lost my gut in the last 2 months. I have been doing dips, chin ups and pull ups which helped my buceps. I have a dip and chin up bar. That has helped with my triceps. I used olymic rings thats helped my deltoids. So I do think it is achieveable as I have bulked back up. He doesn't look huge, my body type is like Jake and Ryans the running and sprinting does help. Also he maybe dehyrated for the scene he is filming and had a good workout before hand.
Ooh nice i commented awhile back wanting to see this. Nightcrawler is one of the best films...
I've always thought Hollywood trainers give celebrities something relatively mild but definitely effective, like SARMs or Anavar or Winstrol. An "athlete" compound basically. But I doubt any mainstream actor is just going to sign up for a bodybuilder cycle (500mg test, tren/deca, etc.). Maybe GH too, especially if they are older, like Hugh Jackman for example. Like you mentioned, anyone fit can look really impressive on camera. They know how to edit, get a pump before, lighting, etc. to enhance the look.
could you do a video on high school/collegiate as use? my friends are ncaa athletes and it seems like ncaa is way harder to pass than wada
Love this series keep it up.
I don't really think Jake was that skinny in Nightcrawler. His face looked gaunt sure, but he was still wide as hell. When you look at where he was at in Prince of Persia, you can definitely see how he could rebound like crazy even without gear.
Do a video of 50 Cent, and what you think he took. That'd be an interesting one.
@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
4 жыл бұрын
Took a 9mm to the face...
U can ABSOLUTELY get that way naturally. That's what I got to naturally. He didnt take anything. My opinion, and people who know their shit and train know this is obtainable
@ashina5924
4 жыл бұрын
He maintains his leaness year round too. On his ig live he was slightly smaller but was pretty lean
@TrueFilter
4 жыл бұрын
Yes but a pro actor with millions on the line does not that the time or commitment for that.
@anonanon2614
Жыл бұрын
The shit he says about how he got there is completely horseshit though. Training twice a day will lead to overtraining and hinder progress. He clearly has no idea how muscle recovery works
@Crew7340
Жыл бұрын
@@anonanon2614that’s exactly what I was saying. Recovery is important so I think he used some peds.
11:02 , so for those wondering heres an example: Mike Tyson, Anthony Joshua, Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez, and Naoye Inoue. All these Boxers/Martial Artists don't use traditional weight training (like flipping a tire, chopping wood, swinging a sledgehammer, running with a weighted vest, pushing a sled and training with calf weights) and in their prime (some still are in their primes). They have or had phenomenal physiques.
I feel like the more an individual uses PED for their own journey the harder it becomes to interpret other peoples journeys who are natural.
Request pls!! - Edward Norton in American History X - Mike Tyson lately - Jeff Cavalier from Athlean X (dotcom had to say it)
He's jacked again in the Road House remake
What do you think about roadhouse
Josh Brolin's body transformation for deadpool 2 is pretty impressive Since it never really looked like he had a crazy Physique.
Hey Derek, what do you think of SSRIs?
@Summerbrah
4 жыл бұрын
I've done it, didn't do much for me and ruined my libido. Everyone is different though. Be careful.
That editing was clean af
It would be cool to analyze his Roadhouse physique, because it looks very different from his Southpaw physique and he is almost a decade older
I got my Gorilla Mode from Amazon today! Excited to try it out bro 👍
@MorePlatesMoreDates
4 жыл бұрын
My man. Thank you for the support
Hey Derek, I’m about to buy your stim free preworkout, I dmed you on Instagram concerning some questions.
Make some Gorilla Mind T shirts or Tanks merch homie!
i don't know a lot about the science behind it, all I know is back when I started boxing training a few times a week for about 1-2 hours/session, i gained a significant amount of muscle, while also losing some fat, i was pretty ripped, this was in my teenage years, i was like 17 -19 yrs old, ever since then whenever I started boxing again for some time, the gains have always been significant,´ i was nowhere near as crazy looking as he was in that movie, but I can definetly believe that if someone dedicates so much time to it, they can ehance their physique in a similar way that he did
Can you do one on Paulo Costa(UFC Middleweight)? Everyone suspects him even after being drug tested so many times.
@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm interested in that also. Well him, Romero and Ngannau. People talk about how there's no getting by USADA, but these 3 have the kind of body that people will tell you you're dumb to think it might be natty.
@DarkArterialGore
3 жыл бұрын
@@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant A lot of the women fighters in UFC are obviously on something too. Jessica Andrade fails the eye test and then there's Ariane Carnelossi who legit looks like "she's" on more shit than Paulo Costa. Those Brazilians MMA fighters are shameless with their vanity muscle and are really rubbing it in USADA's noses because if your gonna cheat at-least do it on the down-low without being super obvious about it like Cyborg or Gabi Garcia.
@Siile_
3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkArterialGore how about Claudia Gadelha an her male voice? Freaking hilarious. Like you said they are shameless, they do it in everyone's face in a sport where the risk of seriously hurting someone is huge.
Joseph Gordon Levitt in Don Jon next? He wasn’t massive but definitely put on some muscle
3:18 great edit
He wasn’t juicing. He wasn’t jacked, just cut. Plus they use a lot of cgi to make him look bigger and ripped. They did they same thing in the Superman movie
Great vids, please do a video on Yoel Romero
You should do one on Matthew Mcconaughey in Reign of Fire...
This is easily achievable naturally. A good weight training program with cardio and a good diet. He's not even that big or ripped. I could lose weight then gain my muscle back quickly and I've never taken steroids in my life and I'm 45! Why does everybody accuse everyone of steroids whenever they build a good physique? By the way, if you get a good pump going before picture or filming, dehydrate yourself a bit, and good lighting and it can make a huge difference. When I'm pumped up and great lighting, I look like I'm on steroids. With bad lighting and no pump, looks like I don't workout.
His physique is most definitely attainable in 5 months with just boxing and calisthenics. Most boxer DON'T do much in terms of resistance training outside of calisthenics. Boxer routinely gain 10 lbs plus of lean mass when going up in weight classes while still doing mile and miles of roadwork, rounds and rounds of boxing and calisthenics. Ali won the gold at the 1960 Olympics at light heavy weight (178 lbs in the amateurs) and made his debut about 4 months later at heavyweight weight 192 lbs and he definitely didn't lift weights and didn't do calisthenics outside of abs.
Could you do Matt Damon in Elysium and Jason Bourne movies
All these people that claim these actors are not taking steroids are not explaining why these men are in the best shape of their life the older they get. Anybody with common sense knows that Jake Gyllenhaal Juiced up for this role!
I barely watch movies but this guy is an amazing actor, one of my favorites.
A true method actor. He een juiced up like a lot of these boxers were. 😅
It's a hundred percent possible to gain that much weight with just boxing, Mike Tyson gained all his muscle with no weight training just bodyweight and boxing training. You can't underestimate the resistance training you get just hitting the bag around I mean pushing one hundred to sometimes up to three hundred pound bags around for so many rounds is like the best circuit training you can get
Need to update it with roadhouse now being out
Hey Derek you should do a Denis Cyplenkov video on what you think he takes (took)
@NaturalHypertrophy
4 жыл бұрын
seconded
@DANKIUS1994
4 жыл бұрын
Alot of hgh. Hgh is the perfect drug for armwrestling
Have you ever done anything on Herschel Walker?
2:58 I see why that is such a good movie
I give celebrities the benefit of the doubt because they can pay the best trainers, nutritionists, chef, they can sleep comfortably, to be in the best environment to build muscle.
Would have made a good Batman/Bruce Wayne.
Pls update this vid
What kind of bagel flies? A plane bagel For the algorithm
I'm sure he did a little bit of resistance training 2 to 3 times a week. I believe he is natural. He's just lying to his teeth about lifting weights. Or or he's doing calisthenics. Have you seen calisthenics athletes? They look like they lift weights.
I don't think he used anything. He just gained his muscle back. You can gain a decent amount of mass from regular boxing training , pushups, pullups, med ball stuff, tire flips and pad work over 5 months especially if you were already that big before.
Can I get that physic without roidz??? I been training for like a year and 1/4. I'm 18 and I weigh 210. I like to believe that I'm kinda strong since I use to be in sports and I was competing in powerlifting untill recently because of covid-19
Props to Derek for sending the Gymshark crew the Gorilla Mode products. Awesome move
@1baby
4 жыл бұрын
Business 101
I am an off and on amateur boxer and my guess is that what he is not completely honest about is his weight training. Maybe He wanted to emphasize the importance of learning boxing skills to prove his chops as an actor. You can see it in his footage there are weights there . He had to do weights. It would be nigh impossible to get that hypertrophy with pushups from a 25 pound deficit while doing extensive cardio. Go to any boxing gym and see if anyone looks like him (who doesn't do weights). If you see your Canelo Álvarez video that's what they normally look like at that weight. He just didn't mention he had a lot of weight days. Then I would believe he didn't use anything.
I think the 10 months training in 5 months quote was about training boxing
I think he did it naturally
Derek any ideas/tips on how to meet women? I am tired of not getting laid...I get quite a lot of matches on tinder and convert some of them to numbers but after that nothing happens.. and thank you for doing my video request
I don't think it's the question of "is this body achievable naturally in such period of time", that would be purely theoretical (and thus barely interesting) discussion - I think, the question is "how high are the chances that he did used steroids to ensure that his physique would be good enough". And I think the answer to the latter is "pretty high". He's an actor, his financial wellbeing depends in particular on his ability to be in good enough shape in movies which are requiring it - and to bring himself in such shape in really short amounts of time. And I don't think he - or most people, for that matter - would be taking chances. If there is a relatively (!) safe shortcut to the peak physique which can be taken, I'm pretty sure he (as well as most of the Hollywood stars) would be taking it. Also, it's not like he can tell to the wide audience "aside from hard training work, I also helped myself with some steroids"- imagine how it would look like.
"I always say that if you sleep four hours fast, that's like sleeping eight hours." - Ron Zook
I love his performance in Prince of persia That's the role i know him from
Great analysis
13-14% body fat in Jarhead? He looks more like 10%. I mean, based on what I've seen from people's DEXA scans, both of those numbers are plausible, just surprised at the higher estimate.
Boxing is literally the key to being ripped lol
I think when actors do interviews they leave out so much useful information like what he was eating during his prep for this role
@dr.loomis4221
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it gets annoying and exhausting after a while. You're answering the same questions over and over on these press junkets.
Please make a video on Scott Adkins the undisputed movie star
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What isnt mentioned is when you get that lean in such a short amount of time muscle memory or not, your strength output, mental clarity, and overall health is shot to hell if natural. So to go and train to be a boxer when your body more or less isnt use to the training and then to workout probably 6-7 days a week (hollywood trainers🤦🏿♂️) and in your 30’s put on more muscle than you ever have while staying cut coming from a malnutrition diet and bodyframe... I would actually hope he was on something. (He is though)
I like these breakdowns...
Good analysis
For am actor to train to that physical state requires so much 😮
Nightcrawler is a crazy movie man. I remember watching it sophomore year of HS right when it came out, shit was crazy
@dr.loomis4221
Жыл бұрын
Love that movie
Boxing beats bodybuilding
Seth rogan steroid cycle
@lunamamans7326
4 жыл бұрын
Nice
Love these vids
I doubt it, he had professional training, nutritionist/dietitian, and personal chef.
Unpopular opinion here, this guy is a celebrity with all of the options out there to train and get big without coming at a huge cost or time from him. What did he take? I think he got on MENT instead of a usual TRT protocal I expect he takes to maintain his looks as he gets into his late 30s to keep his youth.
im more interested in what he took to get the beard
Doesn't matter how jacked you look if you go brokeback mountain
@RequiemForABuckeye
Жыл бұрын
What does that even mean?
Have u done a Will Smith steroid cycle video? I can’t find it if you have