Imagine going to prison for the rest of your life for taking the life of someone who took your life from you from the moment you were born.

@honeydewcandy919

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!! this case reminds me of Gypsy rose and her mother. Didi took away gypsy’s life, and so did these poor boys parents. they didn’t know how to live, they were broken and torn apart, yet these people still make them look like monsters and etc. i don’t think so, this is gross. they should be freed so they can live a real life away from fear.

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

Being abuse is not a justification for murder or planning a murder. You can’t justify it because you feel like it. We all have to abide by the same rules.

@jvarasojeda

3 жыл бұрын

Allegedly

@acha3483

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 who said? You think that people can't snap for their Trauma 🤨

@Tori-tz2ty

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 so you'd rather these boys continue to be sexually and emotionally abused and hold that trauma while their parents continue living lavishly and able to hide this fact for the rest of their lives? When you grow up in Beverly Hills with rich and abusive parents with nobody to tell because they're rich and thought to perfect, it only takes so long for a child to break. Those brothers never got a chance to live like normal kids, so in a way, their own lives were taken the moment their father ever laid his hands on them. If abuse is not a justification for murder, then self-defense isn't either. yes, murder is murder, but abuse is abuse, and abuse can wreck a life just as much if not more than murder can.

“You’re a normal kid who killed your parents” no they killed their abusers

@Juanramos0621

3 жыл бұрын

Parents

@helili

3 жыл бұрын

@@Juanramos0621 no, abusers.

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

They still gave them life and despite everything still love them. Probably not forgive but sill love.

@kat8655

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 his abusers didn’t give them life they gave the brothers hell.

@kat8655

3 жыл бұрын

@Kaylin White doesn’t matter what matters is what their abusers did to them

Why do these people not mention the sexual assault. The reason they had all these issues in their schooling and in life is because of what happened to them

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t proven in the second trial that convicted the brothers. Then they would have to say alleged abuse.

@lynnetmb4706

3 жыл бұрын

Lies by the kids.

@malegi29

3 жыл бұрын

Because there was no sexual abuse. Their behavior after the murders said it all

@Jess-db3gi

3 жыл бұрын

@@malegi29 how do you explain all of the witnesses that said they were told of it when the kids were young? Or all of the child porn found .... or are you only looking at this on a surface level

@kingfuego7761

3 жыл бұрын

yeah they were sexually assaulted but they still committed murder

this case needs to be reopen!!! They were escaping from their abusive parents. ABC you are disgusting for minimizing the significant & horrible trauma that they have been through. This is just wrong.

@HopefulInterventions

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not saying the sexual abuse is a lie. But after researching this case. It was definitely first degree murder. Now does that mean the sexual abuse didn’t play a role if it is true? No! It can create animosity and killing your parents won’t be that hard. However, I’m starting to seriously doubt their sexual abuse story. Again I’m not saying they weren’t abused. But they had very spoiled lived and they’re parents although not perfect seemed to want the best for them. I’m just going by the conclusions I came to after research the case.

@minad37

3 жыл бұрын

@@HopefulInterventions Have you seen the court videos? I have watched them all. Every episode is 3 hours long and 153 episodes. There are pictures taken of them by their FATHER of their genital areas. There is no way they are lying about the abuse. I understand that other ppl who are being abused don’t kill their parents, but the question here was how wrong was it. They should def be in prison for killing someone but being in prison for life is not their case. They served more than 30 years (i think) in prison now and i think it should be enough.

@FirstNameLastName-jg5kv

3 жыл бұрын

@@minad37 none of that matters, they still cruelly and insensitively murdered their parents. there was many ways they could have handled this but they had to end their life? absolutely not.

@minad37

3 жыл бұрын

@@FirstNameLastName-jg5kv you are taljing like you know some ways pls go on and tell me. Their parents threatened them every single day what did you expect them to think? They were scared that their dad was going to kill them. Its a self-defense to get those guns in a way.

@olivianewman6661

3 жыл бұрын

@@HopefulInterventions yes it was premeditated, but I don't think that means they deserve life, of course they murdered ppl and there were clear motives but I don't believe they deserve to endure a lifetime of imprisonment when they really never got the right to live their lives as one should be lived outside of prison, they were already in prison before, just in their parents household. Maybe it seemed like they wanted the best for them, But excusing sexual abuse and also engaging in it does not seem like that to me .

It disgusts me how someone can look at them, their life, and their trauma and say they were acting out for attention or practicing to be criminals or that they were normal kids. Normal kids aren't sexually abused. Normal kids aren't raped. If that is normal then I suggest you re-examine your definition of normal.

@user-pk4ut1ge3t

Жыл бұрын

normal kids don't even practice to be criminals

@cindybrockman100

Жыл бұрын

They weren’t abused it was a lie for their defense they are just murderers!!!!

imagine going to jail forever because of your abusive parents

@latoya7477

3 жыл бұрын

Life’s fucking unfair! So where is that God people talk about when these things happen

@mickey1271

2 жыл бұрын

No, it's because they committed murder.

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

They went to jail because they murdered their parents

@hanatariq7850

2 жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby i think what they mean is, the way the system reacts to people who were abused by their parents so horrendously they felt the need to murder them isn't completely just. trauma is such a serious thing that can push anyone to kill if it's serious enough and putting people in jail for the rest of their lives isn't a solution to this. if the boys had spoken out about their father, he probably wouldn't get jail time at all despite basically taking away the lives of his sons. they can never be normal again after their experiences and thats just the way their parents molded them. not to say that the murders weren't wrong, but they were inevitable.

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

Imagine being so dumb you get conned by two lazy murderers who act so bad that they concuncevyoubwithbtheir fake acting they were abused they are evil liars

Do you notice how they refer to themselves as kids. When they aren’t anymore. It’s like their parents have taken away their childhood and they still believe they are kids

@siri5784

3 жыл бұрын

Dang thats kinda sad

@TomazazB

3 жыл бұрын

@gooogle com i heard the mom abused them, not rape or anything sexual tho. she was a very aggresive, mad, sensitive woman.

@Sophie-rl5dx

3 жыл бұрын

@Can I Call You Mista? also the fact that she probably new about it and didn’t do anything about

@reyrey5259

2 жыл бұрын

They are so deep in trauma they are trapped as children

@savannah9305

2 жыл бұрын

This made me cry

I hate these people, like seriously, put yourself in their shoes these men are victims

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t excuse the crime.

@xxcallmeniaxx3272

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 if I had the chance to kill the men who trafficked me at 5 I would've taken it, no matter how much you wanna fight to defend rapists they deserve to die they made the right choice even if they went to jail they made sure no one else was hurt and now their safe too, I'm proud that they were able to escape in some way

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxcallmeniaxx3272 I’m defending rapists. Where have I said anything close that? Oh I haven’t. I’m saying you can’t take the law into your own hands and get away with it. Murder isn’t going to be legalized for a specific group of people for their convenience. All I said it that being raped/abused in any way is not a justification for murder.

@xxcallmeniaxx3272

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 you are defending rapists by standing on their side when victims act rash, of course the law won't be change but if you believe the law is the highest form of morality then any point that could be made in this conversation will be lost on you. If someone is abused and they killer their abuser they are making the right choice and they are acting in self-defense. I hope that any survivors around you don't come to you when they have flashbacks.

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxcallmeniaxx3272 no I’m not. It’s wasn’t legal self defense because the parents weren’t armed and attacking them at the time of the murders. This behavior shouldn’t be encouraged. That’s what you are doing here and it’s not going to work because there are other ways to get out of that situation and brothers knew that.

Can we please talk about the fact that if this man, a hollywood executive, was doing this to his sons imagine the horrendous thing he did to other boys behind the scenes?

@maameadonteng5246

2 жыл бұрын

oh my Gosh I never thought abt that....

@mariaserbahm2linguistics758

2 жыл бұрын

OMG

@beautifulibra

Жыл бұрын

Oh I believe it. Hollywood is known to have a lot of pedophiles-a lot of the higher ups are

@patyabrego9215

Жыл бұрын

Jose Menendez was the record exec who orchestrated Menudo's meteoric U.S. rise. Menudo was a boys band and there had been allegations from some band members that they were abused by Edgardo Diaz, their manager, and some other executive predators. This is just horrific and sickening! 💔😔

@dianegron

Жыл бұрын

There’s a documentary that will air on Peacock about it. From the group Menudo, there was one of the boys that recalled visiting the Menendez home and was sexually abused by the now deceased father.

It's got my blood boiling that Erik said he was a normal kid and then that lady said "Erik *laughs a bit* a kid that killed their parents" obviously he knows that he just wants to feel normal..

@Estherknowsall

3 жыл бұрын

Right! honestly its just cruel

@aniriv8998

Жыл бұрын

“And you still say your a normal kid?” stupid old hag 😒 fucking hate her 🤬

Lyle said it perfectly “how can one day define 28 year” that one day was his only chance for him and his brother to escape their abusers.

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

Oh please. Looks like they escaped them by murdering them end of story.

@melaninrayy7966

2 жыл бұрын

It’s Because It’s Not Just “ ONE DAY “ , ITS A ACTION .. BUT ANYWHO !! A PERSONS ACTIONS CAN SHOW A PORTION OF WHO THEY ARE !

how can these people not realize that they were acting out because of what they went trough? And it doesn’t justify their actions but gives people an understanding. I feel so bad for them because they’re missing out on life because of what their parents did too them. Imagine someone abusing you probably almost everyday of your whole life, how would you feel? This was an act of self defense and again it is not right of them to kill their parents but doesn’t it say something about the way they were living that they went so far as murder? I think this case should get reopened. I also believe that they should’ve gotten jail time but not life time maybe just a few years. This is just not fair at all and people have no compassion. (my english isn’t that good but i’m extremely aggravated and sick of humanity)

@michelleotto2574

3 жыл бұрын

absolutely agree! Killing is never the right option but you have to see it from their perspective too. Jail is right cause you can’t make exceptions but not for life, considering what they went through since their childhood!!

@NLR759

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree with you 100%.

@stayhere9628

2 жыл бұрын

they seem to be living a better life than their parents.

@jstephenj

2 жыл бұрын

@@stayhere9628 Well, they're living. That's definitely a leg up on their parents, but I don't think their lives are better than their parents.

@Audrey_650

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! And some people will say “they could have just told someone” they knew their dad could beat any charge and then there would be repercussions to them.

"they just got bored with life and they wanted excitement." they were literally traumatized children. the commentary is harmful.

they shouldn't be spending life in jail , they are abuse victims!

@DeltaIsIcy

3 жыл бұрын

Murder is murder.

@victoireagnon8481

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeltaIsIcy they are victims.

@marissagarcia9794

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeltaIsIcy their dad was going to kill them, tfym. have you watched any of the documentaries? they survived murder, rape, sexual assault, and being abused.

@DeltaIsIcy

3 жыл бұрын

@@marissagarcia9794 bro how you survive murder 😭 you dead if it’s murder

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

@@marissagarcia9794 Not in that moment. He and his wife were sitting on the couch unarmed as they were ambushed by their sons and viciously killed. There was no imminent danger present.

What’s really disturbing is that they continue to use the money as an excuse. Making it seem like they were spoiled brats just because they lived in Cali. They based this case on the income they provided instead of the childhood trauma that the parents caused.

@melaninrayy7966

2 жыл бұрын

WELL MAYBE THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE WENT ON A SHOPPING SPREE RIGHT AFTER !!! Should’ve THREW A PARTY TO CELEBRATE 🤣🤷‍♀️ .. ANYTIME MONEY IS INLVOLVED ITS ALWAYS GONE BE A DISTRACTION ..

@LexHeroux

Жыл бұрын

People assume things because it looks a certain way but if their story is consistent with the reality of who their parents were from their friends’ perspective and people that knew them…also and the raw emotion behind the stories, there’s definitely a lot to dig into rather than just assume. A normal person would not just kill their parents for money, no, but they aren’t normal because they had sick and abusive parents. A “normal person” with that much trauma and abuse, I would venture to say would probably have the capacity to do something outlandish like this. It’s a cry for help and a symptom of sick kids as a result of abusive parenting. This does not justify the actions of these men, but it brings more clarity and I think would be grounds for more grace.

I'm so mad at the people in here saying "they were practicing being criminals" NO kids who are abused and have trauma act out....that's common knowledge

@assistancedogjourney3665

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the bitch Pam no one likes her

It’s disgusting how they portrayed the brothers. They were victims and did not live a life that normal kids do. They killed their abusers

@Alex-vf8ww

2 жыл бұрын

ur fucked

@billyswife9805

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-vf8ww no you are

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father. Even when relatives testified it was always lead to the father. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after if they were so traumatized?

@Muirmaiden

Жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby They didn't shoot their parents in the knees. That's a myth. Kitty had no wounds to her knees, while Jose had been shot just once above the knee, not in the kneecap. And by the way, several family members testified that Kitty was often emotionally cruel to her sons, especially Lyle, and that she would sometimes fly into unpredictable rages. She didn't like being a mother and even told several people that she wished her sons had never been born. She didn't protect them. There was plenty of testimony about her treatment of her children, so I'm getting really annoyed with "the mother never abused them" or "the mother was innocent" comments. The testimony of this can easily be found by watching the footage from the first trial (the entirety of it is on Court TV's website, and some of it is here on youtube). A forensic expert confirmed after studying the crime scene that it was an unplanned killing (for pre-meditated, that would mean that it was planned BEFORE the crime). It was overkill, and the brothers used very loud weapons, which doesn't make sense if they wanted to get away with it. The crime scene was messy and disorganized.

@IamGaby

Жыл бұрын

@@Muirmaiden the mother still never sexually abused her kids and speaking of sexual abuse that was never fully proven. Your details of the trial seem a little conflated especially the part of the so called expert saying it was unplanned. Because it was definitely planned. They bought weapons before the killing, stating “for protection” but when the crime scene was investigated they found that their dad was shot from behind killing him instantly so that while they were scared for their life defense goes out the window. All arguments aside it did not justify the murder, bottom line. You keep using emotions and the fact of the matter is it was completely overkill. Wouldn’t it make sense though if they were just “protecting” themselves that they wouldn’t care if they were heard? Anyway, nothing is justified get a grip

Gen z better finish School fast so we can have gen z reopening the case.

@mariannahockey5538

3 жыл бұрын

Yeas we need to

@brookemartin6053

3 жыл бұрын

it’s reopened

@brookemartin6053

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariannahockey5538 it’s reopened

@ariel6285

3 жыл бұрын

@@brookemartin6053 wait Frr how do you know

@giselleagustin8824

3 жыл бұрын

@@brookemartin6053 how do yk?

Part one was 4 years ago- 😭

@shawty.413

3 жыл бұрын

I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT WAS THAT LONG AGO I -

@mooglare

3 жыл бұрын

i think you're talking about a different video haha

@elmstreet2036

3 жыл бұрын

ur talking about the video about the case. This video is about the Melendez movement that started on tiktok. I think u misunderstood what the video is actually about

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not showing anything about the “movement” just recycle videos from a documentary.

@elmstreet2036

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 it does, if u search the exact same title part 1, they start off with talking about tiktok

This case is the first time I've heard publicly people mention about children 'playing' inappropriately because they didn't understand what was being done to them. This aspect needs to be shown more so people understand there's more victims to sexual assault than just the kids molested. Imo a molester should get at least life imprisonment for all the lives he ruins. can you imagine the guilt of knowing that you did something to your own brother because you didn't understand what was happening to you and you thought you were 'playing' then growing up to realize exactly what you did and how it feels and that because of you they feel the same exact way that you do... And looking at the person that did it to you and feeling like them even though you didn't understand what you were doing at the time... It breaks my heart.

@jodispencer4788

Жыл бұрын

This is sooo true

I do think they are victims but I also think they should’ve gone to jail, but not for life 5 years maximum

@catnior

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they’re childhood AND adulthood were taken away from them. They’ve never known peace. Sad.

@laylia4626

3 жыл бұрын

@@catnior I know they just wanted to be at peace. So sad :(

@briannaolivia5640

3 жыл бұрын

So sad I know they probably live better in jail now that they know their parents are dead they are at peace but they deserve their freedom too 😩

@donna9943

3 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how our justice system normalizes sexual assault/abuse

@megajoe811

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you judge judy

Bruce jenner when he was Bruce jenner... you the lady my lady, killing em softly

@Havealilfaith

3 жыл бұрын

My husbands Name is Leonel also. You don’t see that name very often. Just thought you should know lol 😆

@leonelperez5375

3 жыл бұрын

@@Havealilfaith yes in deed, unfortunately for your husband and I, it is becoming popular... I love it. Say hi to my TOCALLO Edit: loved that it was unique, now any dimwitted fool is got it.

@JumeckRafeal

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment lol. She didn't want to be cancelled so she tried to keep it PC.

@zeros-gy7bl

3 жыл бұрын

The producers, editors, etc all failed. Do better, be less transphobic, don't deadname people and giggle wtf?

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeros-gy7bl it was past tense and it is true. What was rude about it. Bruce wasn’t Caitlin in the 1970s.

I started to become "out of control" after a long period of abuse. It's like I no longer trusted anyone and I felt like I wanted to pay society back for not helping me. I did not have mental clarity.

the amount of times the lady says “poor kids” when comparing them to kids who aren’t rich disgusts me .. just cause we not millionaires and our parents aren’t bill gates and oprah doesn’t mean we are poor she should’ve just said the less fortunate . smh . 🤦🏽‍♀️

@KadeemLiburd

3 жыл бұрын

Or working class/lower class

@jessm3846

3 жыл бұрын

It should. That’s how the “rich” (elite, 1%, whatever you want to call them) see everyone that isn’t part of their club. We are all equally as “less than” to them. The problem is that they continue to have all the power.

@therealriyahg

3 жыл бұрын

@Diss Raps like homeless .. who aren’t as fortunate as some kids

@dylanstevens5714

2 жыл бұрын

They are less fortunate , ima different sense

“Bruce Jenner lived here...when he was Bruce Jenner”😂😂🤣😅

@dylanquinn3562

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Dance_Party

3 жыл бұрын

They are gonna cancel her for saying that because people are stupid these days, but that was very hilarious

@Dee-wt8ic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dance_Party transphobia isn’t funny, that why people get cancelled over it. and quite frankly, they deserve it. my misgendering and dead naming Caitlyn Jenner, she is disrespecting her. therefore, she deserves no respect from others.

@Manuelziy

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Dee-wt8ic It's not disrespect, facts don't care about your feelings. Just because some people want to live in make-believe land where they think they're a different gender doesn't mean the rest of us will. The majority aren't putting up with this nonsense

@juhbishfooliaaa

3 жыл бұрын

@@Manuelziy clearly you’re ignorant if you think it’s not a form of disrespect

The robberies were to try to go to jail and escape their parents, after that didn’t work, they then murdered them

@MisssKayy

3 жыл бұрын

The robberies were to show that they could do whatever they wanted and get away with it.

@pumpkindiamond994

2 жыл бұрын

@@MisssKayy I agree. It is hard for a judge to believe dishonest people in the first place like these brothers.

@NLR759

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. One of the boys said when he went to jail for murder, it was the first time he could go to bed without worrying about his father coming into the room. The father would not even let him live in a university dorm, because he wanted to continue to control and abuse him. Father deserved what he got 100%.

@nejlababali7901

11 ай бұрын

Those molesters got what they deserved

I think they weren’t practicing to be criminals. I think it was an outcry cause they were abused. Or they were acting out on purpose. That’s what abused children do. Can someone please hire an intelligent, skilled Prosecutor 🤦🏼‍♀️.

@assistancedogjourney3665

2 жыл бұрын

I think that they stole because if they went to juvenile jail they would be free

OH PLEASE BRIAN, you never cared about the brothers! You claim to be close to your sister yet you didn’t know that she was literally miserable and popping pills 24/7. Your own wife and son saw the abuse and supports the brothers! And that lady who claims to be Kittys friend: you were never there with them behind closed doors.

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she know about their home life. She witnessed Lyle come into her classroom and sit there for 40-45 minutes saying nothing. She also was shown a very offensive movie at a social gathering.

@gx9954

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 I’m not talking about miss Hercz. I’m talking about the blonde white woman in 3:17

I am now a single mother of a 29 year old boy. If these brothers didn't do this out of retribution and to punish their parents, why would they admit it and be incarcerated for 27 years now. If they are not telling the truth, why would they lie. I feel sorry but am not sure of their complete innocence. I think their case should be re-opened again!! They deserve another trial!

As for the Burglary, it was neither because they were trying to practice being criminals, nor boredom, as the 2 ladies suggest! It was likely the self-destructive behavior of severely abused children with a thought process that, perhaps atleast once, conceived escape from the horrible abuse even if it meant going to prison. OR, trying to steal a large sum of money 💰 so they could finally run away from the father's controlling clutches. I really have no doubt that their extreme behavior, to say the least, was the direct result of long-term abuse since there was zero evidence presented to suggest that they hated their parents OR were plain evil 😈 . It's obvious, beyond any doubt, that their actions all along were self-destructive, kinda Iike a Death Wish, not criminally driven. The link between juvenile offenders & child abuse is pretty well established. I truly believe that the behavior in all such cases is driven by the desire to self-destruct to escape &/or due to self-loathe (for not doing anything, for not being strong or brave enough, to end their victimization), not criminal intent. I think I make a solid case to get them out. There is enough fact-based data out there, to prove with very high certainty, that there is a very high correlation between self-destructive behavior in teens who suffered extreme long-term abuse. In Lyle & Erik's case, the abuse was off-the-charts BRUTAL so the end result was unprecedented too!

@ObiAmajoyiSrMD

2 жыл бұрын

No. You don’t get plan to blow someone’s face off, and then proceed to do so, without severe consequences. Nothing you stated justifies what occurred.

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

Nope behaviour of two lazy liars and conmen who don't want to work

@fab8506

Жыл бұрын

Well said 💯%

@seemakhan8412

Жыл бұрын

@@ObiAmajoyiSrMD And indeed I am NOT justifying their actions, rather trying to better understand their actions. I have no doubt that (a) they are not a threat to anyone else. (b) they have done their time, grown from their experience behind bars, are remorseful. I think they can be given a second chance if they have demonstrably changed.

What type of parent thinks: *Yes it is ok to traumatize and sexually abuse my kids*

" they were practicing to be criminals " what bullshit they really need to reopen this case

oh god this took 4 years for a part 2

“When he was Bruce Jenner” *laughs*😂

When you are sexually abused, if not dealt with, a victim will find some way of getting it out. Some become as "perfect" as possible. Trying to basically bury the a use. Others go the opposite way. And of course variations in between. What do you do when it i s your own parents! And father is poweful!? Never say never!

Knowing the whole story, the little crimes they committed (like the burglary and the public disturbances) are, although still wrong, understandable. They were raised to be messed up people. They had no control of their own body, so of course they’d seek control in their outside life.

Such an eye opener. U wouldn't assume there's this level of abuse in affluent houses. Somehow everyone needs to be aware of how criminals can walk around in normal appearance. Child abuse of even atrocious nature could occur in seemingly normal households.

Those parents got what they deserved, if I was in their shoes I would have done the same thing. Almost every single day of your life getting sexually and emotionally abused by the people who are supposed to “love you the most” and they threaten to kill you and your sibling If y’all ever tell anyone or try to escape. We all know the cops wouldn’t have done anything to prevent the abuse from stopping. No one could save them Even when other people knew about it, they never did anything, the only ones who could save the brothers was themselves. After all those years of abuse and torture you lose it and you can’t take it no more, you want to be free of them, doing what ever it takes. If killing them is the only way to escape then yes I stand by it, it was self defense. The things they’re parents did to them is DISGUSTING and inhuman. They already spent like 25 years in jail, it’s time to let them go and get justice for them.

@NLR759

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree. The mother knew about the father's abuse of the boys and did nothing. The father also wouldn't allow the older boy live in the dorms at university. Told him he had to keep living at home. Likely so he could continue the control and abuse. There was no escape for these boys. Abuse victims cannot think straight or logically, to get out of the situation any other way. Father was a sick man and deserved what he got. So did the mother.

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? They allowed the cops to believe it was the mafia. Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized and defending themselves? This indicates a cover up. Otherwise they would have just straight up told the police we had to do it immediately upon arriving on scene.

They were escaping from sexual abuse.. not cold blooded murderers

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

They were escaping alleged abuse by becoming convicted cold blooded murderers. They killed 2 people. They are we’re they belong

Its ridiculous how the judge told Erik he's not a normal kid because he killed his parents. Well obviously, he was molested, assaulted, and so much more. He didn't have a normal life. He doesn't need to be judged, he explains himself how he feels about that, it was a mistake. But what their parents did was much worse. If they were alive they probably would be payed out of jail.

@VintageRose75

2 жыл бұрын

That was Barbara Walters telling him that, not a real judge. Although, she thinks her "journalistic" has given her the right to judge, and do so harshly. One of the reason it has been difficult to stomach her all these years.

kim kardashian should help them

@graveraider1029

3 жыл бұрын

or trump or biden

Ridiculous that this case has never been re-opened. They have been in jail for 25 years now. Don't deserve that at all. Their parents were abusers/child abusers. Abused their own children. And if they didn't kill them they would have gotten away with it. they did what they had to do and shouldn't be punished with life in prison for it.

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby why go shopping buying rolexes? These lazy scumbags may have had a controlling jerk for a father bug their acting was so bad about the abuse, even Amber Heard could have done a more convincing job. They are arrogant and spoiled brats and Jose created monsters

@Muirmaiden

Жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby Don't make comments like that until you have watched the first trial. The mother was abusive as well and didn't protect them. There was a large amount of evidence corroborating the defense's case.

@IamGaby

Жыл бұрын

@@Muirmaiden I did watch it dinkus

it’s like they’re covering up and using the brothers bad habits like stealing as an excuse to cover up that they were abused their entire lives to make the case of them being “guilty” stronger

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

@daisyjoongie

2 жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby yeah to be honest i don’t think they should be FREE either you know, because at the end of the day, they did murder two people whether it was for good or bad. but people calling them “animals” and “coldblooded” just doesnt sit right w me…

@tanyamyrie5375

2 жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby common sense, the mother was also killed because she condoned with it!

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@tanyamyrie5375 which would throw out their whole self defense case if you are saying she got killed because she condoned the behavior. It turns it to premeditated. Soooo not sure what point you were trying to make

May God have mercy on the souls of these boys

To this day it's still so sad these brothers need justice

Look where Jose's hand is in the photo of the 2 boys on his lap.

@invadazim4320

3 жыл бұрын

Yikes

@dianezunun

3 жыл бұрын

What timing??

@mmasavant9128

3 жыл бұрын

@@dianezunun I actually watched it on hulu then got on youtube. I'll try to find it and get back to you

@mmasavant9128

3 жыл бұрын

@@dianezunun I couldn't find it on this one. if you look at the video: Menendez Case: The isolation of family secrets. by Tori Hartman. it's the picture on the thumbnail.

@fatimahaider5179

2 жыл бұрын

@@mmasavant9128 I was gonna ask the same thing, Thanks

0:54 “when he was bruce jenner🌚hehe” THAT JUS CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD😭😂

Where's the lie detector when you need one🤦‍♂️

@tamerlane9889

2 жыл бұрын

they dont work sadly

Free the Menendez brothers NOW!

love when media tries to twist the story. yall ruin lives

@Prince-jb7pv

2 жыл бұрын

There is no excuse for murder, they ruined their own lives with their actions.

@kayleeharguess2839

2 жыл бұрын

@@Prince-jb7pv 100% they deserve to serve time but not life given the circumstances. If it were females this would be a different narrative

@Prince-jb7pv

2 жыл бұрын

@@kayleeharguess2839 I doubt it. However, this crime was so heinous that we dont have anything to compare it to, no female siblings ever murdered their parents

That 90s Show brought me here!

they literally drove by Kim and Kanye’s house at 0:55 someone needs to get this to Kim so she can free them😭

@hollymorelli8715

3 жыл бұрын

Start tagging Kim in Instagram posts @name

WE MEED A PART 3

@lunnadelmar3400

3 жыл бұрын

alr up

@shawty.413

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunnadelmar3400 IT IS ?

@lunnadelmar3400

3 жыл бұрын

@@shawty.413 YES LOOK AT THEIR PAGE

bullshit docu..there are enough docus about this in the past..it's 2021..talk about who they r now and about the support they get and the hope for them to come out not resentful about past things of their teenie years which they already regret to make them look bad

why is this world so messed up man

If this happened today what would the outcome have been?

0:50 why she do my boy Bruce like that💀💀

They were acting out, because of the years of abuse. They weren’t robbing to rob, they were acting out. Clear sign of trouble.

they are victims, not monsters. just like gypsy rose, they were scared and abused and felt trapped and needed to be freed anyway possible. these “criminals” need to be freed, in my opinion. they were tortured and abused in all ways possible, they went threw stuff no human should ever go threw.

@nikmadic8363

Жыл бұрын

The parents got what they deserved. These brothers needs to be free. They did nothing wrong

"I think they thought being criminals was a fun way to earn a living" They were literally rich

A NORMAL kid does not go into a store and DEMAND service while standing on a table and throwing things around.

@lunnadelmar3400

3 жыл бұрын

they were kids they act by instinct this is the parents fault for raising them wrong and im glad they killed their horrible abusive parent

Free them they didn’t do nun anyone else wouldn’t have done 😪

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

No many abused people don’t commit a double murder to escape. Speak for yourself.

@briannaolivia5640

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 stfu respectfully 🤫

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@cathiegans2718

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 their parents were powerful and wealthy the only way they could escape this torture (in their minds) was by getting rid of them you weren't there, you didn't experience this and you need to STFU not respectfully (:

@miaparral49

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 yeah they don't commit murder cause they have other ways to get away from it, But the menendez Brothers didn't, they didn't have other options. if u were getting abused and ur only chose was to die or kill ur abuser I bet u would kill them.

Thanks

ok if this is part 2, why did they take 5 years to premier since part 1???????????

Erik reminds me of a young Ben Stiller

say it with me. re open this case!

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

No point

that’s so upsetting bro

The way he keeps smiling is something I’ll never understand

@tirzabroide3341

2 жыл бұрын

the smiling is part of PTSD symptoms

the justice system isn't the epitome of unfair and wrong

I honestly believe the reason they recieved life in prison is due to what they did after the killings, showing no remorse by going on a lavish spending spree. If it wasnt for those factors I think the abuse would have been more into play in the judges decision making. Just my opinion, but im open for discussion.

@kaylinwhite6584

2 жыл бұрын

I concur!

@dianea.4229

2 жыл бұрын

I just read one of the most longest article ever, which states that the prosecution had proven there was premeditation.... And that one of the brothers had lied.

@selenaaaaas

2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely ! They had a full fledged plan and they executed it pretty flawlessly honestly and Lyle specifically had no plan on telling on himself or Erik . He was basically livid when he found out Erik told .

@at_2527

Жыл бұрын

The only options for sentencing was the death penalty or life without parole. There were no other options the jury could consider once the verdict was first degree murder. The most the abuse evidence was able to do was give them lwop instead of lethal injection. The spending spree does not necessarily indicate a lack of remorse. People spend money for lots of reasons, especially people who live in Beverly Hills and are used to spending tons of money regularly. Their own mother was known to shop when she was depressed.

Sad case 😓

Why kill your parents? You could just leave your family and live on your own.

@Hellibra

Жыл бұрын

@Mmm Ee they should have reported to the police.

@kaylinwhite6584

Жыл бұрын

I concur!

@kaylinwhite6584

Жыл бұрын

@Mmm Ee No they should have done anything other than murder. You’re an idiot if you believe that.

I grew up with loving supportive parents who had little to no money. I would say, based on what they experienced, it's these brothers who are the 'poor' ones. Have to SMH at weird American value systems that have life SO skewed!!!

Those who gave the brothers prison proved that rape and abused are ok to do. That's why it's still happening. I feel sorry for the judge and prosecutor who has to carry the burden all his life and is resposible to other children who are still being raped and abused by their sick parents. Such judges and prosecutors and policemen and politicians will get richly hot in hell and here on earth too for sure.

@exxtraterestial

2 жыл бұрын

The system is fucked up

@iwantmyplaylist

2 жыл бұрын

I think the system is trying to tell victims of abuse that using violence to “solve” the pain is not the right way… Their parents’ abusive behaviour is not right but to react to the abuse with killing is also not right.

please they should be let out! they deserve to have a happy life with their families now ❤

No normal parents would do that to their child

I strongly agree that this case should be reopened. Sounds like their parents just became parents so that they have their children whom they can abuse and control. I can't imagine all the despicable things they went through in the hands of their father. It's shocking and heartbreaking when you found out that your own mother knows everything from the start and didn't do anything about it. The betrayal is unforgivable. I think killing them was the only thing they thought that could help them escape from their abusers. Therefore It shouldve been a self defense not a murder.

@iamonlyhuman8323

2 жыл бұрын

Ask Kim

What they went through was undeniably the cause of their crimes, but that doesn't change the fact that they committed crimes. Instead of life in prison I'd say lower the sentence, but they should still go to prison for what they did. So many people were abused by their parents, but not everyone kills their parents or chooses to lead a life of crime.

@nikmadic8363

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone is same

Lyle was like his dad. He did to his brother what dad showed them it's what u do in power. The bond they have is not bad. The parents were bad. Everyone loses.

They are the way they are because of what they were exposed to while they were still young. And their inner child needs to heal. What that man did to his OWN sons is disgusting.

I don’t think they heard very well “ they’ve been RAPED “ by their parents they didn’t just kill their parents on purpose &’ faked crying about rape , that’s not something to joke about especially when your in a court room with a lot of people .

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

@Muirmaiden

Жыл бұрын

@@IamGaby Why do you copy/paste the same comment?

@IamGaby

Жыл бұрын

@@Muirmaiden whatever you say it does not justify murder. Thousands of kids are abused on a daily not resulting in murder. These were grown men when they killed their parents. Stop justifying something that isn’t. I could understand if say the dad lunged at them and they shot a gun. Their father was sitting in a couch and was shot behind the head execution style. TF are you ignoring facts or you just pick and choose what you want to hear. Get a grip man. They are jail and they are never getting out. Get over it

Bruce Jenner sent me😂💀💀💀

Bruce Jenner…when he was Bruce Jenner😂😂

So sad for these guys 🙏

Free them and let them get the one life we have. They just need help! 😢

Set them free!!!!

At what point does this start becoming about the Menendez movement?

28 years defined by a day he says. How about someones loss of life defined by that day.

@graciemurgia5469

3 жыл бұрын

Do you not understand both of them were sexually abused? They did it as a reaction to the trauma

@i_A691

3 жыл бұрын

Hun you should watch the interviews and see how they got treated and then speak it was horrible

@Wipsplash

3 жыл бұрын

@@i_A691 I understand what you are saying but everyone is in control of their own decisions and actions. It is best when a person is able to remove themselves from a toxic situation. I do feel for them in this situation but sometimes you just have to walk away from something bad and start your own new path towards something good. Any path that leads to someone being murdered is a horrible situation.

@i_A691

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wipsplash I understand you too but getting raped and sexually assaulted continuously since their childhood Is traumatising and I think if you were in their position you would do the same but I guess it’s your opinion

@Wipsplash

3 жыл бұрын

@@i_A691 No hate here but you shouldn't assume my life has been pleasant. I am now old enough to better understand things emotionally. It is sad that it takes peoples entire life times to understand things. People have 2 paths in life. Take vengeance or push on even though difficult times and ultimately end up with the life they always have wished for.

I am a you-tuber from China, God bless the kind American People

@satinluva-4302

3 жыл бұрын

@Miss Anonymous lol

he IS a normal kid. what they did to him wasn’t normal and he didn’t want that to continue anymore so he didn’t have a choice but to do what he did. it was the only way for it to stop. that was so disrespectful of the interviewer to insult him wtf.

@IamGaby

2 жыл бұрын

let’s say I believe the abuse story these guys weaved. The story doesn’t add up. Every story that was told lead to the father and the mother was killed as well. Now if the abuse was true I could understand them killing their father. Yea some allegations were made against her but ultimately it was the father. The mother was shot at and was alive at that point then they had to actually Reload and continue shooting her like come on. Either way you slice it it’s murder. Why shoot both parents in the knee to make it look like a mafia hit? Why collect the shell casings after is they were so traumatized?

Sad situation all.around I believe the sons testimony that there was abused no one can sit there and testify like that it was purely genuine

imagine deadnaming someone and laughing 😳

@dampgoat

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this

Did the school guidance counselors or their teachers realize what was happening, if what they (The Brothers) are stating is true regarding the molestation/abuse ? Is there a two tierd justice system in the US ? How were the boys before they relocated ? It seems that there needs to be more probing into this situation /crime.

@amandanegrete1306

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, numerous former teachers testified on behalf of defense.

@jengable4888

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandanegrete1306 ...If the abuse was true, why didn't someone intervene ? Mandated reporting went into effect in the 1970's in every state in the US. I guess I would also question, why didn't the brothers move out of the parents home at 18 or 19 ? They may have financially struggled, but at least they would have been free from the abuse. That whole situation, in my opinion, ( we are still allowed to have those) is very dicey to say the least. I still think we do not know all of the facts to the case.

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

The teachers and the coaches were afraid of the parents. They said that they were intimidating, powerful, frightening, and overbearing. The teachers were afraid that they would lose their jobs out of retribution if they went to the police/CPS.

@jengable4888

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylinwhite6584 ..The parents were powerful in what way, because they had money, or something else ?

@kaylinwhite6584

3 жыл бұрын

Money and just their personalities frightened people.

these poor men had their childhood stolen and they were abused and belittled by these evil people but they're making them seem like monsters when they were just trying escape hell.

Going to jail for killing your abuser means the justice system failed you.

I think they are victims but they should talk to their grandparents or another family member.... Sorry!

Really people? The comments here are amazing. The fact is, the parents are not alive to defend themselves. For all we know, these brothers have been acting most of their lives. The parents may gave been neglectful parents but we can never know. You have to prove abuse.

@Tiffiomcdonald

2 жыл бұрын

How can you prove it though with the parents dead?

@Muirmaiden

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the first trial. There was evidence and testimony of abuse and neglect. And how often do abusers admit to wrongdoing?

The Menendez brothers were close because…..they were brothers?????? Why did she even need to say that other stuff 😂

Bruce Jenner when he was Bruce Jenner🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But we don’t mention the sexual abuse!?🤣 this video is pathetic. If your going to ‘inform’ people about this case.. do it right.

@Tiffiomcdonald

2 жыл бұрын

Go to part one