New Evidence in Menendez Brothers Case
An attorney representing Lyle & Erik Menendez tells #CourtTV about new allegations that boys' father, Jose Menendez, sexually abused a former member of the boy band Menudo.
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@Jesusiscominglive777
Жыл бұрын
Test the ink 👌 is a must to get to the truth!!!
@caroldeaton619
Жыл бұрын
Set them free if that is an original letter and why it didn't make it to trial.
@caroldeaton619
Жыл бұрын
@@Jesusiscominglive777how do you test ink I've never heard of that?
@Jesusiscominglive777
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure exactly how they do it but they have done it see the age of the ink 😉
@lornag9608
Жыл бұрын
Set them free!
I remember the prosecutor saying that “men/boys can’t be raped”. Could you imagine someone saying that now?
@dianazhora7357
Жыл бұрын
It was a silly statement even then.
@user-pt4xx4wu2i
Жыл бұрын
probably he is or was an abuser himsef
@jeniestra.
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It was crazy.
@amchristie8894
Жыл бұрын
Did he not understand human anatomy?😮
@AmethystEyes
Жыл бұрын
@@amchristie8894 it was a she
As a victim of SA abuse at the hands of my bio dad who shared me and my little sister w/ MANY friends for years- I stand by and support these two men♥️♥️♥️
@Rita-yw2tn
Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry for all that you and your sister went through no child should ever have to endure that ! 🥲
@treece01
Жыл бұрын
Wow I’m so sorry that happened to you, i pray that God removes all of those horrible memories from your mind. No child should ever go through this but unfortunately satan is very real and his biggest offense toward God is harming children who God loves so very much. My heart goes out to you
@yesseniaayala2664
Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine what you went through. I’ll keep you in my prayers.
@tonifitz6831
Жыл бұрын
Sorry if i met your dad I would smash him in the face... I'm so sorry that the very ppl that should protect you and take a Bullet to save you wd do this x😊
@luv2travel2000
Жыл бұрын
@ LittleGirlLost Sorry this happened to you. That is just so wrong. Praying for you that God would heal your broken heart.
I had a coworker many years ago, she told me that her step father sexually abused her from the time she was a little girl. And that her mother knew about it and did nothing to help her. I was sick to my stomach when she told me that. Those type of parents are the Real Monsters!
@user-om8dk9ur2w
27 күн бұрын
any mother that brings a stranger to her child can expect that. step father is nobody, no blood relations
When they separated the brothers and put them in different jails really broke my heart. I hope they get out soon.
I totally believe that they were relentlessly abused. That kind of anger does not come overnight.
@tnt01
Жыл бұрын
100%
@NORMLfan13
Жыл бұрын
Me too always believed them b/c it’s a pretty embarrassing thing to admit/claim. You can wait for money but not for the abuse to stop. I can’t wait to see them freed!
@xmanc5687
Жыл бұрын
I always thought that myself. What makes a person so angry at their parents, if they were loving parents.
@tnt01
Жыл бұрын
@@xmanc5687 common sense, for sure.
@greg6122
Жыл бұрын
Follow the money,,,
I hope Lyle and Erik get out of prison. I don't think they had a fair trial. Those parents were monsters. They served enough time.
@LadyCrimson25
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t heard about this case yet?!
@LadyCrimson25
Жыл бұрын
What an awful case it sounds astonishing! For how long in prison?!
@LadyCrimson25
Жыл бұрын
It seems like it is not easy to get any fairly Trial today how come. Is it not given more fear if not knowing if it’s the right behind bar or if a murder is out there? Evidence not enough or?!
@jennifermcgoldrick6323
Жыл бұрын
@@LadyCrimson2530 years.
@garysmith1863
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
I know a man in his 50s who has been single and alone all of his life, because of the sexual abuse he suffered from his own father. He is so mentally tortured that he can not move on.
@Kenna198
Жыл бұрын
That is so sad 😭 what a despicable monster ugh
@vj8406
Жыл бұрын
We all know a man like this. They are everywhere. Sexual assault of children was the norm and it was also the norm not to talk about it.
I remember this case and i remember thinking something is definitely very wrong here and the two brothers seemed genuinely abused. So sad this happened to them... their lives were pretty much stolen away from them twice. Their parents stole the first half of their lives and the justice system stole the second half.
“People can’t imagine a father doing this with his son.” Indeed. I’d even add that people also can’t imagine what it’s like to be raised in a home that enabled such a thing. This wasn’t just a sexual abuse case, it was a mental abuse case carried by a father that literally everyone that came into contact with was terrified of. The mother enabled it. From experience, not only does the SA mess with your mind, the fact that the Mom allowed it might be the hardest part to get over. It shifts your understanding of reality, love, and trust.
@marygoff3332
Жыл бұрын
The mother brought one of the sons into her bed and sex abused him, too. Poor kids, growing up in these perverse households. 😔
@maxmanx1294
Жыл бұрын
SPOT ON!
@angelwings7930
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍. I’ve ALWAYS thought they deserved a new trial.
@vanessamonroe1917
Жыл бұрын
I always believed them!!! Their home was Hell!!! Both parents were Monsters!
@donnar9864
Жыл бұрын
My son is adopted.. I got him at 11 yrs old.. his dad raped him on the regular and his birth mom knew it was happening.. fast forward, he is 30 yrs old now and a productive happy human being. I acknowledged what happened to him, we talked it through for years but I never let him feel sorry for himself, I wasn't going to watch him become one big pity party.. the dad got 25 yrs, but only after SA 3 other members of the same family and the state took the parental rights away from him...
They saved so many kids because their father would never have stopped.
@SFVGIRL
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Because it's true. People whom haven't experienced being SA and raped repeatedly wouldn't understand the fear/hate/distortion.
@teresarenee3829
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
True!
@unoimright5153
Жыл бұрын
Ummmm! That menudo guy stayed silent for 30 year’s! He probably needed money , now ! He got paid for this , obviously! Those Mendez brothers partying and spending thousands of dollars in the days after they murdered their parents! Why !? Did the kill their mom !? For the inheritance, duh
@chulababy2120
Жыл бұрын
IF ITS TRUE
I remember this case when I was about 15 yo. I remember seeing them testify and watched the tears form in their eyes, describing such a shameful account of their lives, that they were not responsible for, but that their own disturbed father was. I love that they have found joy, in the midst of decades of incarceration. I truly hope the case is retried and justice prevails 😓🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The real monster was the person who had that letter all these years and never showed anyone while the brothers rotted in jail.
@KennyAce
2 ай бұрын
Thats bc they still killed their parents.. now that 30 years have been fulfilled they should be let free
@user-oz6rz3ko7c
12 күн бұрын
Actually that's a bit unfair to say, because their cousin had the letter and unfortunately he passed away in 2003. So his stuff was sort was put away and that's they didn't have the letters before
The fact all the evidence and witnesses that proved the abuse happened was not admitted on the second trial was a total breach of the brothers rights to a fair trial. Shame on that judge and prosecutor. Free them!
@mk8446
Жыл бұрын
100%
@CherokeeAmericangrl
Жыл бұрын
It was admitted at there first trial !!! That letter is a fraud !!!
@schoomzer
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! It's time for the masses to understand the psychological and emotional trauma that is caused by such egregious and long-term sexual abuse of children, particularly by a family member.
@southerndelight54
Жыл бұрын
The Judge took their defense away from them.
@fernandaolivares7926
Жыл бұрын
@@schoomzer Yes, it literally fractures somone's soul. They killed them in self defense, being threatened with sexual assault is just as criminal as being threatened with death. People askobg if the father "threatened to kill them" as if that was the only action that warranted a life threatening measures need to wake up.
This is the saddest failure in justice for these victims. They told their story and no one believed them. Now someone somewhat famous comes forward and it’s deemed worthy? Disgusting.
@leighlavigne4680
Жыл бұрын
If they did it during rape...it's self defense. If you are eating ice cream on your couch it's just murdering your parents
@michelleg4346
Жыл бұрын
Thirty (30) years too late!
@vevrvivnv
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people believed them at the time, and a lot of people still do. The first trial resulted in a mistrial because the jurors could not agree to convict or to acquit. During the second trial, the judge limited the evidence that the defense could admit, which allowed the state to minimize the allegations of abuse, and they were ultimately successfully convicted. Many people were shocked by this, as their testimonies of abuse were captivating and moving.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@luzesquivel2660
Жыл бұрын
THEY WERE OLD ENOUGH, TO LEAVE HOME. REMEMBER HONOR YOUR FATHER/MOTHER. SHALL NOT.KILL." MILLIONS OF CHILDREN RUN FROM ABUSIVE PARENTS."
I joined Jose Menendez's company, LIVE Home Video, several months after he was murdered. Everyone spoke about how impressive yet intimidating he was, my boss herself telling me how much she hated him and had immediately suspected the boys were involved in the murders as she believed they were abused children. I remember her saying that she was sorry how Jose Menedez died but was nevertheless very happy that he was gone.
Their adult imprisonment seems to be easier to bear than their childhood prison of abuse
I actually feel sorry for these terribly abused young men!! ITS CALLED RAGE- for horrible parents abusing them for years. RELEASE THESE MEN.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@unoimright5153
Жыл бұрын
Why !? Did menudo stay silent for 30 year’s! WHEN TWO 18 and 21 Mendez Bros were facing the rest of their natural born life in prison !? For this reason it is NOT A typical SA case ! Lives were at stake !! Lmao ! His testimony is laughable!!
@kwassagirl5639
Жыл бұрын
@@unoimright5153 - clearly you know nothing about the lifelong complex trauma of child sexual abuse (CSA) ...... on average it takes 30 years to disclose CSA, if ever.
@unoimright5153
Жыл бұрын
@@kwassagirl5639 Well , clearly you know everything.. 30 years .. you don’t say !! Bahahaha!! Lifelong complex trauma, still laughing! Those Mendez brothers were facing life in prison at 18 and 21 , you’d think the Menudo guy would want to help their case by coming forward! No !??? 🧐 (18 and 21, the brother’s had moved out of the Mendez family home and supposed horrible environment, just to come back and murder their parents ???)
@Bleu413
Жыл бұрын
@@kwassagirl5639 Some people are narcissistic until it happens to them
I feel so sorry that these two young men had to go through this, and people who knew didn't speak up absolutely shocking
The PTSD that exists from being constantly in fear for your life makes you a paranoid, hypersensitive, adult that has trouble trusting people and forming close bonds with other people, among other things like nightmares, panic attacks, being quick to label people with only good intentions as phonies, etc. People who've never experienced this can have a hard time understanding that this kind of abuse does not end when the victim leaves the relationship or is in a position to do something even when the physical abuse isn't happening.
@savethedolphinsEgM
9 ай бұрын
You are exactly right. So few ppl understand. Very well phrased. I'm sorry for what you went through.
@TiktoksForYouGuys
4 ай бұрын
you couldn't of said this better. thank you so much.
@GoddessFourWinds
4 ай бұрын
@@savethedolphinsEgM I'm sorry I missed your comment. Thank you.
@GoddessFourWinds
4 ай бұрын
@@TiktoksForYouGuys You're welcome.
The psychological abuse is the worst. And that is why I believe them. The “ rules” in the house. Nobody would randomly make that up.
The physical and psychological abuse these men suffered is something that anyone who hasn't lived it can't judge.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@godlygirls62
Жыл бұрын
Ya left out the sexual abuse
@catrivera7463
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@enzyme181
Жыл бұрын
Bs, I was abused for 18 years and I didn't murder anyone or abuse anyone.
@realscience948
Жыл бұрын
Seems to me…..they wrote the letter as like an alibi! They had it all planned!
I watched a documentary about the horrific abuse they went through and there were actual witnesses in the house when one of the boys was screaming while being brutally raped by his dad. I don't know where all those witnesses were when the trial was going on. I pray they overturn their sentence, they've been literally tortured long enough.
@claudiacastaneda6871
Жыл бұрын
Their cousin testified in their favor. But this case is deep and complex. It’s crazy to find out all the details of what happened and who was involved. Thank goodness Roy is finally ready to speak up.
@javayna2353
11 ай бұрын
@@claudiacastaneda6871they were old enough to go to the police, get a rape kit done in themselves, and not commit gruesome murder.
@Muirmaiden
11 ай бұрын
@@javayna2353 Wow, you are very naive.
@Investigate_Mermaids
11 ай бұрын
@@javayna2353 Guessing you were never sexually abused by a family member..
@alygarden7879
10 ай бұрын
People in power can even control those near or around them such as these witnesses. No one wants to go against a powerful person!
These boys were never protected by society and the police. They had to take the law into their own hands They served their time set them free
@DeGenereteMugiwara
Жыл бұрын
no they didn't i'm sorry way more kids go through worse sexual abuse and don't kill their parents and go on the worlds biggest shopping spree like nothings wrong
The whole family had to have known what was going on but didn't stop it. Its no way they honored that rule to not go down the hallway without having an idea
Society may finally be ready to hear and believe that this abuse happened.
@dianazhora7357
Жыл бұрын
Many didn't believe the brothers were raped by their own father, because they relied on their own childhood experiences. Now, society may be ready to accept that SA of children can and does happen within families.
@thesurfergirl8465
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely time has changed
@redpillfreedom6692
11 ай бұрын
@@dianazhora7357It's more so that boys specifically can be sexually abused that's more readily accepted today than it was 30 years ago.
They should have been able to put their evidence before the jury in their second trial. I think that's unfair.
@sjohnson65456
Жыл бұрын
It is completely unfair, and has happened/still happens countless times in a trial.
Does this mean that every abuse victim can legally kill their abuser?
@slaxey7875
Ай бұрын
It should be this way . SA at that smh
@alishamashburn412
15 күн бұрын
If it’s in self defense that’s different. But legally you can’t kill someone without serving jail time. But I do feel like these guys probably served enough time.
Las victimas siempre fueron esos pobres muchachos reaccionaron asi artos de vivir tantas barbaridades por parte de esos padres cochinos monstruos ojala se aga justicia y para Roy tambien esos violadores tienen que pagar
To those who are pointing out that the brothers were of legal age to move out of the home: any type of abuse includes a type of mind control where the abuser convinces the victim they would never survive without them. If these brothers were abused from a young age to their legal adulthood, it absolutely makes sense to me why they’d still be in the home with great reluctance to leave. It’s the same concept of saying, “why don’t they just leave?” regarding an abused spouse. I am all for a second trial, or release based on time served.
@Simplegalinny
Жыл бұрын
💯 and similar to an abused spouse. Statistically, they stay because they’re afraid of retribution!
@Lisa-hc3uq
Жыл бұрын
Anyone in their right mind knows that if you murder someone for whatever reason besides self defense, you're found guilty in a court of law, it's life in prison. You don't get off for time served or the circumstances of abuse. It's like putting guns and knives in the hands of victims and its ok if you brutally murder them? It's not ok. You contact authorities, your family members, adult friends, clergy, your Dr, your neighbor, anyone who would listen. The back story to the brothers behavior prior to the murders is telling. They should serve out their sentences for what they were found guilty in the court of law for, the same as anyone else who chose to weapon up and blow away an abuser. Regardless of "the times", it's immoral and illegal to take someone else's life if not defending your own.
@LilaDaisy
Жыл бұрын
I believe Lyle was, in fact, out of the house but still relying on his parents' financial support.
@-norsecode-
Жыл бұрын
@@Lisa-hc3uq You've clearly never been in an abusive household or been abused.
@nancyfahey7518
Жыл бұрын
I say time served. Let them out. And I hope there's still some inheritance left.
I remember this case when i was a kid. The media circus, the natrative they were pushing, making fun of these 2 "spoiled kids." I rewatched about this case a couple years ago and i was surprised to find myself believing the brothers
@karenwhinesmore9347
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Those poor boys were abused. And spent enough time behind bars.
@trinity2145
Жыл бұрын
I was saying the same thing. I was young when this all happened, and from the media, that told us about it. I never got this impression that it was this bad, as an adult. This is disgusting, and they should’ve never went to jail. This father did the unspeakable to his children, and their mom.. just sat back and did nothing. I know all too well how that feels. Although, I didn’t suffer this bad, it was still bad for me. And I just hope they can get out.
@sbg1911
Жыл бұрын
Same.
@laurathomsen977
Жыл бұрын
I agree. They were punished by the media and courts on top of their horrific abuse growing up. I remember the media making this seem it was about the money.
@ColonizersBlow
Жыл бұрын
Yep, same. I think it’s time to let them go.
Just set them free. They were tortured from the time they were babies. They are not a danger to society. Let them live real life with their wives now
No imagino lo que estos niños pudieran haber pasado 😢
They probably were so embarrassed to say what they were going through. Sad that they decided to do such a horrible thing to their parents, but even more horrible that a person that’s expected to protect them would hurt them as well as other’s in such a horrible manner.
@eliaol4231
Жыл бұрын
We have this idea in our society that parents just naturally love their kids but then smth like this happens and it's not too uncommon, and people's bubbles get burst.
@janicescott6569
Жыл бұрын
As a rule children live in fear of their molester’s. And as far as the boy band member goes, he probably was afraid of ruining his reputation. Not that he would be blamed but victim’s become ashamed.
@ypcomchic
Жыл бұрын
Also had the boys reported it and not killed their parents and if the parents were charged with rape etc the amount of time they would have received would be less than 10 years!! These men have been in there for 30 years because of murder. It’s sad that rape charges don’t get more time in prison.
I have never doubted the abuse. What they did was horrible, yes, but the abuse they suffered was horrendous, nobody protected them.. Their cousin also knew about it. I think they spend a lot of time in prison and they should be free now. They are not a danger to society.
@karenwhinesmore9347
Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@jillcampbell3510
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I hope they are freed.
@remigal899
Жыл бұрын
They were never a danger to society.
@fernandaolivares7926
Жыл бұрын
How horrible the cousin sat on this letter while the boys were sent to jail...unbelievable...family members usually notice things and they do nothing, it's awful.
@SoneBlink
Жыл бұрын
@@fernandaolivares7926 One of the brothers, i think the little one, told his cousin when they were kids. The cousin admitted that, I'm not blaming the cousin as a child, but the court never allowed a lot of evidence of the abuse., i find that unfair. They wanted to close the case, it was too big at the time.
I hope they do a review and release both. Everything they go through is really hard and painful.
I'm in awe at how strong Lyle and Erik are. They are truly survivors. I only hope and pray they can get out of prison soon and live the lives they deserve with their loving wives and extended family. They have all suffered far too long because of this injustice.❤🙏
People might wonder why the boys didn't just leave home and go on their own, but it's not that simple. I lived with my parents until I was 24 because they used controlling tactics to keep me there. Whenever I expressed interest in leaving, my father would say, "Your poor mother! She'll be heartbroken!" which immediately caused me to feel like a selfish son, and my mother would say, "Don't you love me anymore?" or similar comments. My mother was a stay at home mother and homemaker and her kids were ALL she had. My father knew that, and would always resort to tactics to keep my brother, sister and I at home as much as possible to keep my mother company. Finally, I had enough guts at 24 to make a life for myself.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
Good for you. You experienced abuse from your parents!
@kathleentatar-sipple9672
Жыл бұрын
Glad you finally got out to live your life. God bless you 🙏 Stay strong. I'm sorry this happened to you and your siblings. Horrible thing to go through.
@jameshurst6119
Жыл бұрын
Man, we came up in completely dif worlds.
@elissam.corsmeier469
Жыл бұрын
Thats on you for not leaving.
@annward7794
Жыл бұрын
You got out relatively early. They could’ve held you hostage the rest of yr life. Much love. 🩵
I always asked myself why no one of the "Menudos" members never said something about it. Roy lives in Brazil today and he said something about it many, many years ago. He said that other members of Menudos were also abused by him.
@dgabster7953
Жыл бұрын
They did! Some spoke up on the tv show, Cristina, from Univision. They made them look like greedy liars 😢
@lionofjudah6774
11 ай бұрын
they did but pedo ring control social media....but we have to keep supporting them talking about it
@clarissaturcios2346
11 ай бұрын
No one cares if it wasn't Ricky Martin.. Plus you can't rape one of the Menudos, they are all gay
I hope they get out without having to go through another trial and also that they get a big payout. Their father sounds horrific
They need to bring this new evidence to judge..
Over 30 years in jail caused by a judge's shananagins. These lawyers in robes are a piece of work,
@TheRight-handedStranger
Жыл бұрын
Well after O.J. everyone couldn’t believe a murderer of 2 people can just gets free, so others were paid for it.
@Kyutenessss
Жыл бұрын
💯!!!!
@pommiebears
Жыл бұрын
Politicians. They are voted into those robes. Give them a robe….everyone thought they were Gods, back then. They’re nothing more than lawyers who brown nosed enough to be voted.
@ezragonzalez8936
Жыл бұрын
All good and dandy but what did Kitty Menéndez have to do with anything their self defense just falls apart!
@Kyutenessss
Жыл бұрын
@@ezragonzalez8936 She enabled the abuse and even seemed protect this monster of a dad/pedo so yeah she had to go too.
They should be released. This case was the example of the time back then that made ALL children feel powerless to horrific treatment.
@royharper2003
Жыл бұрын
they shot and killed their parents and you want them set free in society? You are as crazy as they are.
@Scrabble12
Жыл бұрын
@@royharper2003 The defence is working lol
@cristinamora7791
Жыл бұрын
@@royharper2003 They kill a Child sexual abuser... you should thank them ...
@mweber5459
Жыл бұрын
They were adults when they committed this crime. 🙄
@76482
Жыл бұрын
@@mweber5459 , That's exactly my thoughts. Absolutely no reason for those grown adults to keep living with "abusive" parents, especially if it was bad enough to brutally murder them. Move the heck out, report it to the police, file a civil lawsuit. Not to mention every story has 2 sides and dead people can't defend themselves against unsubstantiated allegations.
I always believed the brothers told the truth….. the father abused them! That’s what goes on in that industry. I believe the brothers should get out!!
That doesn't make them less murderers.....
The documentary needs to be watched by everyone. It’s sickening what was done to all these kids.
@victorialopez2964
Жыл бұрын
Yes was awful. I cried.
@fedfan3079
Жыл бұрын
@@lolalovesme2987 I don’t think it was one sided. I couldn’t make up my mind. It seems he did it the 2nd time but he had already been railroad by law enforcement the 1st time, why wouldn’t they do it again.
@lysatekilah8924
Жыл бұрын
Where can I see it?
@lolanila6233
Жыл бұрын
@@lysatekilah8924 peacock. Melendez + Menudo
@billythekidder7182
9 ай бұрын
Documentaries are opinion pieces crafted to make you feel one way or the other. They are not 100% truthful. It’s one side. They are murderers and belong in prison.
It always seemed that the court and lawyers were more upset about how those boys spent their daddys money than wanting to hear about what their daddy actually did to them.
@dianazhora7357
Жыл бұрын
Daddy was also raping other young men/boys, so his death saved many others from the same abuse.
@watchxfiles
Жыл бұрын
Yup
I hope their parents who committed these horrible abuses are burning in hell!!!! How could any mother allow anyone to abuse, especially sexual abusing her boys, 😠
RCA records executive. Everyone knows what they’re doing to young men nowadays. It’s a great deal of trauma. Time to clean it up
If you've never saw the old documentaries on this, their parents did sick sick things to them. It was stomach turning.
@chrisgullett4332
Жыл бұрын
No they did no't. They killed for money, and I would bet my last dollar they were never abused. They are evil killers.
@mk8446
Жыл бұрын
How horrific. 💔😢
@studiosinger
Жыл бұрын
Well they could have handled it the right way. They became murderers in the process. No excuse to kill of their parents.
@chrisgullett4332
Жыл бұрын
@@studiosinger It also does not even make sense, because if the dad is abusing you, what reason is there for killing the mom? Oh they say she must have known, but in what world does her knowing mean they get a pass for murdering her? It is clear why they killed the mom, because if the dad dies she gets all the money, but if she dies too, then they get the money. They killed for money, and nothing else. People are just dumb to believe they were abused. Also, if he had been telling his cousin about the abuse, then how come the cousin never said anything about it? Then they mysteriously find an old letter, that I think we all know is not an old letter. Ink has changed in the past 30 years, and I bet if they test the ink it has chemicals init that did not exist in ink 30 years ago. No doubt in my mind if they win a new trial, the thing that will ruin their case is the ink in that letter. Yes the state will test the ink if they have to try the case again, and then their case falls apart.
@mk8446
Жыл бұрын
@@studiosinger Do you remember how old they were when the murders happened, the kids. I was wondering why they didn't move out. I don't know the whole story I was young when this happened.
IT IS HORRIFIC WHAT THESE MEN WENT THROUGH.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
Truth!
@unoimright5153
Жыл бұрын
No , it’s horrible what these kids did to their parents!! They were so happy after the murders, the brothers spent a lot of money and were partying !! Why !? Kill mom !?
@Volaris27
Жыл бұрын
STILL.... THEY COMMITTED MURDER, THEY MURDERED THEIR MOTHER TOO SO,,, NO ONE SHOULD GET AWAY WITH MURDER. PERIOD THEY HAD OTHER CHOICES THAT THEY COULD HAVE MADE.. THEY NEED TO STAY IN JAIL.
@Souxie123
Жыл бұрын
@@unoimright5153how easy to just stand with the abusive elders. And be convinced that their victims should have pretend to grieve the atrocious parents when they had been craving for freedom and safety from the very beginning of their lives. At least, these two young brothers saved other kids from their psychopathic father. You could have been one of these kids. And this man could have ending murdering his family as well. You POV is quite narrow minded : what would have happened if these degenerate parents were still alive, knowing how dangerous the father was ?
@unoimright5153
Жыл бұрын
@@Souxie123The Mendez Bros, story has changed many times , but you believe them !? Lmfao ! Narrow minded and gullible ! The jury didn’t buy it but but but you just know that these two convicted murderer’s are telling the truth !! You haven’t even seen the evidence against these brothers, you haven’t watched the trials but but but you just know that the Mendez Bros wouldn’t lie ! These Bros. spent 700,000 in the months after they murdered their parents! Because, they were so sad and traumatized! Get out of here, FACTS OVER FEELINGS
Wow! Everyone knew about Menudo. It was disclosed many years ago about the abuse. Seems like the system once again failed. Hopefully everything will come to light and they can be set free.
They need a new trial! This was such a terrible miscarriage of justice.
They should be let out. What happened to them at the hands of their Parents is horrifying!
I never doubted their testimonies. I never understood how they could be put in jail for longer than 5 years.
@dianazhora7357
Жыл бұрын
I just saw their testimonies recently and have to agree with you. They are more than believable.
@barbarabreunis7788
Жыл бұрын
@@dianazhora7357 Exactly and you know what, they were spoiled brats too and of course they liked the money. But Lyle would have had a bright future ahead of him, probably in politics and as a business owner. No doubt about that. He had zero motive involving money. The only motive left was this. I feel that they basically put Kitty out of her misery. Since they were their parents and they had no choice but to love them instinctively, they will regret their choice every day. Especially Erik, since their mother hated him less. And who would have believed them back then? Besides that it would have been economic suicide to ruin their fathers career, the shame was too big. It would be the same if Barron Trump would go to the police saying he was raped by Donald Trump. People would think it must be a weird anger issues of a spoiled brat.
@lisastark8907
Жыл бұрын
When you see what they are trying to normalize in our society today, it makes me wonder if they knew they were innocent the whole time. They wanted to make what happened to them normal and make defending themselves the crime. Is that not what's happening today in society? They've been perpetuating and indoctrinating society in a very deceptive way for eons! Just more proof of it right here. 3 decades later and we clearly see that Jeffery Epstein, Royalty, politicians, heads of state and celebrities have gotten away with the same disgusting, vile, horrific crimes! Their attorney is full of 💩 if he believes things would have gone better for them in a court of law today! Seems to me they needed a better lawyer!!
There is always an option before murdering someone, you just leave.
Wow.Why didn’t someone step forward with this a long time ago ?????????
If OJ and Casey Anthony are walking free, these brothers should too. They served enough time
@mariapadilla8061
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. OJ is a monster and practically took Nicole's head off because of his jealousy..I don't agree that the menendez brothers should have killed their parents, but I can understand why.
@timelessmusicfamilymusic9175
Жыл бұрын
When you have a set of Dream team attorneys to have your back of course your more likely to be set free. If Charles Manson had the money to hire OJ Dream attorneys, he probably not serving time either.
@sarahdavis9275
Жыл бұрын
Seriously!!!
@MissteryDiva
Жыл бұрын
Although OJ did get his Karma! And everyone know Casey Anthony killed her child- she lives in hiding
Their father & mother were both disgusting monsters. There is no doubt in my mind.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@jennyeagan1840
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Mom failed to protect them like moving in the middle of the night very far away.
@luzesquivel2660
Жыл бұрын
Sure. Parents were NOT. There to defend themselves. Did anyone SAW THE ABUSE??
@jennyeagan1840
Жыл бұрын
@@luzesquivel2660 There's another guy as a teen he was business associated with their dad. Stated he was also molested by the dad. Be interesting to hear what else he states. If memory could serve me a bit better, I believe their were other witnesses that were called telling about the father's abusive personality. Could be dismissed as hearsay. The father had a lot of money and was powerful. Prison actually could have kept the boys safe from the dad's connections. A weird twist of irony. Interesting as why two brothers would plot to kill their father. There was no money in it for them should they have not gotten caught? That's the bottom line for me.
@luzesquivel2660
Жыл бұрын
@@jennyeagan1840 Yes. That happens very often, is why children prefer to run away. May the good Lord overwhelms you with blessings. "
Who is in control of the wealth? They're going to try to stop this!
They should never have been put in jail. The first trial evidence of what was done to them was alarming! The entire family knew, even friends new, and saw!
I always believed them. I hope this ends with them being released. It’s time for justice for Lyle and Erik.
@ashleydaniel3215
Жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed to say I believed the media back then but now...I can see that not only did they free themselves from the abuse but they are actually heroic for standing up in court to talk about the abuse at a time when Nobody would of such things in their families. Times are different now and people are speaking truth to power and believing victims more, society failed them by not believing them. There father was a powerful man and nobody would have second guessed him sadly. I hope they are freed because they deserve it😭
@margaret4196
Жыл бұрын
@@ashleydaniel3215 your reaction wasn’t something to be ashamed of. Especially back then it was almost unheard of that boys suffered in this way. I think you being honest is a good thing.
@ideagirl
Жыл бұрын
In my comment above I said the same thing. I believed them way back then too.
@FleetwoodCaddy59
Жыл бұрын
I always believed them as well. I hope they are freed soon 💙
@enzyme181
Жыл бұрын
Bs, I was abused for 18 years, I didn't murder anyone. My sister was abused for 15 years until I had my own place and moved her in to get her away, she hasn't murdered anyone. Murder is not the answer.
This is absolutely one of the saddest case I've ever heard. If a stranger had committed just a fraction of what their father did to them...both men would have been not just acquitted but probably never even been prosecuted. Why is it ok to defend yourself from a stranger but not from a family member!!! Those boys were tortured from their father from the time they were children thru young adulthood...and then sentenced to a lifetime of imprisonment! Set these men free!!
When I was four years old, a ten year old neighbor boy sexually assaulted me. My mother told me not to do it anymore. The boy continued to assault me for the next three years. I didn't say anything because I didn't want my mother's disapproval. 1954 - 1957.
These poor traumatized boys. I believed them then and still do now. Traumatized and still being punished by society sitting in prison for being innocent victims. As an abuse victim myself, I think a lot of abusive parents need to count their lucky stars that they didn't meet the same fate
I believed them on the stand about the abuse and their fear. I think they’ve done enough time. Let them go.
@dinolemma
Жыл бұрын
Seriously. People get fixated on the brutal murder of the mother but she was complicit in the abuse.
@queenofwater8783
Жыл бұрын
@@dinolemma She never protected them. What they did was wrong; I don’t condone it, but they have been in prison for 30 years. They are not a danger to society.
In the first trial, if these bros were not abused. Then they were Oscar quality actors on the stand WHOA
@angelwings7930
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. And they were misread. Ok so they spent money after the murders. They were young, immature and finally liberated from abusers. They were dealing with ptsd and not making great decisions. They high-fived each other in court, again, it boiled down to being relieved that hell was over with and they were able to tell their story.
@yikes7963
Жыл бұрын
There's no faking that emotion. It was absolutely gut wrenching to watch and to see the Prosecution belittle their truth.
The emotion they both display does not appear faked at all. These poor men... I'm a SA survivor myself and I couldn't fathom it coming from one of the people you're supposed to trust most.
I’ve prayed for Justice in this case for many years!
@judithstith6378
Жыл бұрын
There are grandfathers who rape their grand children. Break this curse!⚡️⚡️⚡️
Let those poor guy's out of prison!! Its awful what they went through and, the mom is just as guilty as the dad was!! She knew everything!! 😡
Their testimony was riveting during the 1st trial. So awful. With the letter, they would be out of prison.
@dianazhora7357
Жыл бұрын
The letter was not admitted in the first trial which makes a case for a new trial. They can authenticate the age of the ink and handwriting. There is also a band member of Menudo who stepped forward and let it be known he was raped by their father.
@90secondsuntilmidnight
Жыл бұрын
@@dianazhora7357 I made a mistake. I meant if that letter was in the 1st trial. I hope they get out. This is a miscarriage of justice.
I SAW IT ON THE BOYS FACES ON DAY ONE These boys were broken and what’s worse is their mother KNEW IT
send the trial judge to prison for contempt of court
A father as a bully, and an abuser, has a devastating effect on young people. No question. It is horrendous. Give the time the Mendendez brothers have served for this crime, the case needs to be urgently revisited.
This is so tragic. The family member that withheld the lettet all these years is so ignorant. How could they not present that as soon as they discovered it? Hopefully, the brothers will receive some sort of reasonable restitution. Complete failure of the justice system.
@Debthouse
Жыл бұрын
@Joan Arc It is beyond soul-crushing to think that after years of being abused and being pushed to unimaginable lengths to save yourself, the _victims_ of the abuse would end up incarcerated. I hope something can be done for them even though justice will never truly be served at this point. Considering many of the high-profile cases in the 90s and early 00s, it is fascinating to see how much influence the court of public opinion had in a pre-social media world.
@Debthouse
Жыл бұрын
@Joan Arc Luckily they have each other for support.
I was thinking about this case every once in a while, over these past many years. I couldn't help but think that any parents who are severely abusing a child never know when there time is up so to speak. And then something this terrible happens. A long time ago I read in the Bible where it said something to this affect; Parents, Do Not Provoke Your Children. It stood out to me for whatever reason. Parents need to be wise and especially avoid any form of abuse.
They murdered their mother also...that is inexcusable. Regardless of what may be truth about their father, they still stand guilty of brutally taking their mother’s life which goes more towards the fact they wanted the inheritance and they started spending it like banshees not abused victims.
I don't think they killed him out of anger. They killed him because they were terrified of him! They killed him in self defense. This letter proves it!!
@ANGELSURS
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@yourkeysre
Жыл бұрын
I was terrified of my mother, who lock me in closet at 5yrs old and destroyed my life but yet I didn't kill her. At 15, I ran away from home.
@chaicrimes
Жыл бұрын
They had other resources and planned the homicides. The dead parents are unarmed. Where's the self-defense?
@fernandaolivares7926
Жыл бұрын
They actually said they felt safer at jail than in their house!...Imagine the hell those kids went through...
@fernandaolivares7926
Жыл бұрын
@@yourkeysre being locked up in a closet sounds awful but not quite the same as being raped by your father hundreds of times while your mother allowed it...rape fractures people's souls to a different degree.
I truly hope these men get to see the outside. Growing up with a psychopath is a punishment in itself.
They were telling the truth! Their verdicts will be overturned. Good for them!!
Always believe children first! Some desperate women will do anything to keep a man, including sacrificing their children. It’s disgusting but takes a lot of courage for a child to speak out. Kids NEED support!
@artetface
Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯
@Sindollx666x
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
I hope these brothers can get out with this new evidence. They’ve been there a very long time.
@pamelaboisvert8976
Жыл бұрын
They didn't make it up there father was greedy and sick
@inaj27
Жыл бұрын
Too long 😢
If this murder happened now, so way those boys would have gotten a life sentence. Gypsy Rose has now been released, she served like what, 7 years? And that was medical/physical abuse. It would be absolutely CRAZY if these men never get a re-trial or their sentence overturned.
@SatieSatie
2 ай бұрын
Had to think about her too. It's utterly unfair how Lyle & Erik were treated by the court and the general public (remember the nauseating Saturday Night Live sketch?) in the 90's. Terrible things happen when the wrong people become judges.
I was under the impression that they were convicted by the killing of their parents after the court blocked any attempt by the defense of using the sexual abuse as evidence since the trial wasn't about the sexual abuse but the murders of the parents.
They need to be set free. Or at the very least a retrial. They were painted as spoiled brats wanting their parent's money to go out and party, in the media and in the courtroom. In reality, they lived in a home we'd all call hell. What those boys went through can only be summed up as torture. I don't think they got a fair trial whatsoever.
This is heartbreaking. Let them out. I believed them as sad as it was
I was undecided then but convinced now. They lost so many years in jail after being abused by their father while their mother did nothing. Their mother had to know. I know someone who was molested by his father and his mother did nothing. He just killed himself at the age of 35 this March. If in fact, their parents did this to them, let them go.
Not fair they went to jail in the first place!! Real justice for the brothers!!!!
Why didn't family members who knew come forward at trial? Why didn't work associates come forward who knew. Instead the all kept their mouth shut and let these boys get further abused by the law. Seriously? They should be charged with a crime too.
@barbarabrady1267
Жыл бұрын
They did in the first trial. The judge wouldn’t allow that as evidence in the second trial
I think they need to be set free. All the people who said "their defense was the abuse excuse" were wrong.
Can't believe it's been 30 years!
They should be let out of prison.
I’ve always believed these guys! I pray someone truly fights for them & gets this case over turned,they’ve done enough time! Praying for them both🙏🙏❤
@rosyrain8
Жыл бұрын
Amen !
So, are they implying that sexual abuse excuses cold-bloodily gunning down two unarmed people in their home, watching TV? And why would a man's claim of sexual abuse be immediately believed, when women's claims are not?
Now that we know the truth about Hollywood it's possible
Those two sons were driven by abuse to kill their evil parents . Set them free .
I remember this case. I believed the boys. I was terrified that they were sent to prison. I have heard of women in prison possibly on death row for defending themselves from their abuser. It's unbelievable. Why!
Didn't the Brothers, after killing their parents, go on spending spree?
I always thought they were terribly abused , sexually and emotionally . They had no one to turn to. They tried to tell the mother and she never believed it. They have done their time and they shouldn't have been given the sentences they were given. They need to be released .
I've signed many petitions to set them free. They were living in HELL with their father. They should be out!!! They need a new trial!😢
@dianazhora7357
Жыл бұрын
Or just let them out. They spent over 3 decades in prison which can be time served.