Glad this conversation is happening. Trams people can be treated with empathy and respect , but not at the cost of women’ rights. Our sisters, daughters, granddaughter, etc. should also be respected and protected.

Great episode. Inga is very sharp and understood the issues quite well. Super discussion.

Inga has been the most balanced voice you have featured on this. The fact that she mentioned the Biden Administration redefining Title IX is important. We should all be safeguarding women’s spaces, and realizing that when we give rights to some by giving up right the right of others, we are not creating equality.

Lance was my first super hero, I love cyclist because of you. I might not agree with everything you did but I respect you. I’m from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷. This was a great podcast. We need to be more vocal about this new changes and make sure women rights are respected. Stay strong Champ 👍🏻☀️💪🏻

Thank you for for standing up for women's sports and bringing common sense and biology that cannot be argued. I'm a so-so age grouper that started competing in my forties. I'm happy just to finish races, but I do not want to compete against men. I ride regularly with a coed group and cannot, not matter how much I train or try, outride the men. I can occasionally out climb a larger, less fit male, but I am small and light, so that goes back to simple biology. Thanks again Lance, for supporting women's sports.

Lance, the people I know are mainly upset about trans men competing against women and that children under a certain age are not yet capable (yet) of making a decision on their own

@janicelgo4522

10 ай бұрын

Completely agree.

@cristinafaria154

10 ай бұрын

All this discussion is ridiculous. Make another category: trans men and trans women category.

@keithbronson9777

10 ай бұрын

@@cristinafaria154 There are not enough trans athletes in any sport to have a competition. Transgender people are such a minute % of the population and there is even a smaller number that are interested in competing in sports.

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

@@cristinafaria154 Not a 'trans' category, just open up the male category so anyone can race. Keep the female category natal-females only, no exceptions.

Love this! Such an important topic for female athletes! We see this in amateur cycling also. Starting to see “open” categories as an option where the women’s category are for people born as females. Thank you for your work on this.

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

You mean born as *males. :) Open category makes sense, or replace the men's category with 'open' where men have the advantage. For female categories, keep it for natal women only.

An average Cat 1 male racer could be almost any female pro. Biology is real and must be enforced.

@ronm9357

10 ай бұрын

Likely cat 2 or top cat 3s

@1vaneligbruker

10 ай бұрын

Name one that have done that

@1vaneligbruker

9 ай бұрын

@@stewartpaul3979 so name one

@1vaneligbruker

9 ай бұрын

@@stewartpaul3979 so you have transition for how long?

@randycallow3736

9 ай бұрын

I know this to be true..I have seen it. In high level gravel racing this is playing out..mass start men mixed with women and women can't tell where the race is.. did the move go up the road because women are allowed to draft off men.. mixing races is fine if that's a category..but I have seen races mix at crits and it's a disaster.. women should be able to race against other women and if you want to do a men's race cool.. but men should not be able to enter and race in women's races because they feel like it.. and at Jr. level this will destroy young female athletes.. should not have to race against boys and men or athletes who cross dress

Great coverage of this topic...and good podcast. It could be greatly improved if somebody would work with Lance on communicating more succinctly (i.e., without so many asides, so much stammering, etc.).

Reasoned. As a female athlete I just want a fair race.

It's as if time stands still during this conversation. 🤔 I say that because according to the clock on the wall behind Inga, the conversation starts at about 1:50, and ends at 1:50. 🙂

100% agree with Inga. Thank you for speaking out.

I am a 84 year old dude and fully aware of things going on at present. Watching this discussion about the sexual nuances in existence was an eye opener for me. What I don’t like is the news media using this topic dominating it's reporting. When it comes to sport, why don't we separate Olympics for each sexual category? We already have it with the handycapt.

Inga you are a gem, its so clear

Great to have such an expert on fairness in sports talking on that topic. And Inga, too.

Why there is a controversy on this issue is baffling. The consensus even in the trans community is that “gender identity” and biological sex are two different things. There is no reason to give preferential consideration to gender identity over biological sex, especially regarding sex-segregated sports or locker rooms. What someone feels “in the heart and soul” sounds like a religious or spiritual matter, and should have little bearing on matters related to biological sex.

@sherwoody14

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you and feel like 99% of people do. The controversy seems to be there's a group pushing Trans on everyone, including sports. It must be a powerful group with the progress being made. And it's not a transparent group because I'll bet not many could tell you who is pushing the trans agenda.

@otteottema6839

10 ай бұрын

Gender and sex are the same. Trans people try to change the true meaning of gender. It's nonsense.

@cambell-yi2gh

9 ай бұрын

@@otteottema6839 Talk to some trans people about gender dysphoria. It's real. It's been a thing forever. Unless they're all lying, it's just how it is.

@otteottema6839

9 ай бұрын

@@cambell-yi2gh yeah, the dysphoria is real, what means there is a mental issue. If someone believes he is Napoleon, he is fooling himself. And when a man believes he is a woman, he is very wrong. A man is not and cannot become a woman.

I was there when Armstrong and Thompson won the U.S. Nationals in Jeremy Ranch, UT in 1991. Tough course that blew up both men's and women's fields. I rode around the course taking pictures. Met Eddie B. too.

I wonder if it will dawn on Lance eventually after his talk with the two trans people that biology, science and evidence doesn’t mean anything to them. They are unfortunately of the new school of thinking that reality isn’t as important as the way they they feel, which no one denies they feel that way, however women have feelings too and they are not less important than trans women’s feelings. We compete in sports with our bodies not our identities.

@Musikcheckerpro

7 ай бұрын

Just curious, bc I‘m still learning on this issue & your last sentence somehow really resonated with me. How do you feel about the following thought? In most sports self-identification works up to a certain age (puberty) and later up to a certain level of competition, between there sports should be viewed more as a hobby, exercise and social event ans to a lesser degree a „real“ competition. There being sports, especially those where there is a risk of injury if your opponent is too strong (like maybe Volleyball), where you still end up with 3 Brackets. And there being a cut-off where you say: look all of you are shit enough at your sport that this is not primarily about competition. The trade-off between protecting the woman‘s right to fair competition and the transgender-persons right to social inclusion has now tilted far enough to just go with self-identification.

@Musikcheckerpro

7 ай бұрын

*Between=because

@susiegluxman9041

7 ай бұрын

@@Musikcheckerpro I swam competitively from about 4 years old to 18 yrs old, and even at that young age, the boys times were a bit faster. When they hit puberty of course the difference is even wider. However even at a very young age, girls need their own sports, because most elite women athletes start very young and if they are competing with boys and continually losing, the discouraging nature of that will make many girls quit sports, that was the reason for Title 9, to make sure we provided fair sports for girls and young women. We will not create the elite female athletes of the future if we teach them young the playing field will not be equal, nor fair. This issue was solved already and any male who identifies as anything other than male is not excluded from sports, they are excluded from the category they are not eligible for, they are welcome to compete in their biological category regardless of their identity. That makes it fair for everyone. There is no reason they can’t compete in their own sex class, and if they choose to weaken themselves with hormones that is their choice and a male on estrogen does not a female make. Heart size, lung size, bone density, fast twitch muscle fiber, angle of the hip to knee, faster reflexes, I could go on but hopefully you understand that it is incredibly insulting to women to imply a male on estrogen is just like us. We deserve and fought for our own spaces and sports and I for one won’t give them up without a fight.

Lance, have you interviewed or tried to interview Lia Thomas or Austin Phillips?

This interview is the textbook definition of irony.

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

No it's not really. Someone who was punished and stripped of titles for cheating is not the same as the ultimate doping....developing as male and competing against natal women. Trans women in women's categories makes Lance look like a philanthropist by comparison, especially because the whole field was doping. Arnold Schwarzenegger admitted to using steroids to win his many bodybuilding competitions because the top competitors were all doping, but nobody stripped him of his titles. If Arnold is against trans women in female sport then his past steroid use doesn't undermine his opinion. Imagine Arnold as Annie competing against female bodybuilders in his prime. He'd never lose. That's how absurd it is to allow trans females to compete against natal females.

Inga is really smart. I have been a huge fan of her since the 80s

I am a women's basketball player. Title 9 allowed me to compete and attend college on a full scholarship. I played on the boy's team in high school. Once sophomore year came on, I could compete anymore. Where are the women? This shouldn't even be a conversation. Hormones don't start when puberty hits. Men are born with testosterone. Also, puberty is starting sooner and sooner. This drives me crazy. Please tell me any groups I can join to fight this problem. It should be called "Take a Knee."

Being an older American, what I have seen historically is that whenever there is social upheaval regarding rights for any group, the pendulum usually swings to the other extreme before it comes back to the middle. For example, the Gay Rights movement allowed closeted people to "come out" in the face of great backlash. They had to fight for themselves and then it normalized. This is no different. Just my opinion based on the observation of historical events over the years.

@kensheck2049

9 ай бұрын

One difference between gay rights and trans rights is that gay rights didn't infringe upon another group's rights. Two men wanting to get married to each doesn't prevent two heterosexuals from getting married. But a transwoman wanting to participate in women's sports does infringe upon a woman from being able to engage in a sport designated solely for females. Then there's the issue of female-only spaces. Are transwomen to be allowed in, as mentioned in this discussion, women's prisons? What about battered women support groups and shelters? For those reasons, IMO, it's just not quite the same as movements like the gay rights movement.

I think the best option is that instead of having "women" or "men" competition, have "XX" and "Open"/"All". Everyone can participate in the open category, men, women, transgenders, XXY (Kleinfelters), non-binaries, etc. We exclude nobody in this "open" competition.

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

Exactly this. Women and Open. Simple, effective, plenty of participants.

@neologian1783

22 күн бұрын

​@@spacep0d 100% will not work. Because the trans-activists end game and goal is not to have a separate category. Their end game and goal is nothing less than, or short of, "If I say I'm a woman then I am a woman...with all rights, access, and privileges that designation grants....full stop." A separate category like an "open" category would not go far enough and would continue to fail to affirm, in some small and unacceptable way (to them at least), that what people "feel" in their heads is what creates material create reality. Which is what they want everyone to accept at its philosophic or epistemological root. They want to get the idea over on everyone else that their consciousness, their feelings, are what actually generate and produce the facts of reality as opposed to the facts of reality existing prior to and independent of the contents of their heads. The main reason for this is that they themselves know, however dimly, that reality itself will never provide them with the validation they so desperately desire. And so the only other place they can obtain validation is from other people....the mouths of other people Since reality itself will never affirm the contents inside their head, then other people must be made to do so. This is an epistemology problem disguised as a "trans issue". But in the end all you are are really dealing with are people who cannot (or who refuse to) distinguish between their inner state and the outer world. They are mystics who say "It is the function of my consciousness to create reality" as opposed to rationalists who way "It is the function of my consciousness to perceive reality - however imperfectly at times."

@spacep0d

21 күн бұрын

@@neologian1783 You're conflating what you think will happen with what should happen. I'm not interested in your predictions. We know that trans 'women' cannot be allowed to continue to ruin women's sport.

@neologian1783

21 күн бұрын

@@spacep0d Sorry.....I may have misspoke.. Did I say something that made you think I'm in favor of allowing transitioned men to compete in women's sport?

Rather than having self-serving links to other social media accounts, it would have been nice to have a link to for example that Swedish study Inga Thompson is referring to.

Inga is spot on. I agree with her. Smart lady. Think about it you don't see a woman who has trans to male competing in men's sports. There's a reason why you don't. Does anyone think about that?

@silverbambi5922

9 ай бұрын

We are always saying that too!

I've never seen Lance this cautious. Not a knock, because it's a definite minefield, but it added an interesting element to this interview compared to many others.

This is a simple issue. Trans athletes ARE VERY WELCOME to compete, IN THEIR OWN LEAGUES. I don't understand what the fuss is about.

@sherwoody14

10 ай бұрын

Most agree with you but the fuss... there's a group pushing Trans on everyone. It must be a powerful group with the progress being made. And it's not a transparent group because I'll bet not many could tell you who is pushing the trans agenda.

@jenspetersen5865

10 ай бұрын

It is about the chance of winning!

@valleytruthers3827

9 ай бұрын

"SEPARATE BUT EQUAL", where have I heard that before?

@jenspetersen5865

9 ай бұрын

@@valleytruthers3827 Yes - imagine the evil of woman's sports where men are excluded.

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

Just open up any 'male' category and rebrand it to 'open'. Men, women, trans, otherkin, etc. The men would still win where male advantages are a factor. There aren't enough trans people to have their own category. We only see a super high incidence of trans women in female categories because they have a HUGE advantage and life-changing fame and fortune as a result. Those same trans women would get destroyed in open classes.

How can one be canceled for the word "woman"? The word 'female' is already considered 'bad' on Reddit, if this is a harbinger of the next level of crazy. Yet, the word 'male' is thrown around with impunity.

I probably would not have watched this if I hadn't followed Inga on Twitter -- where she is a known defender of biological women (which aligns with my beliefs).

She is absolutely right!

Good for them both for having the courage to express opinions on this taboo subject.

@daveleonard7282

9 ай бұрын

We need to start questioning who is silencing us and making us feel that any topic is taboo. We can respectfully question anything. Critical thinking and understanding begins with healthy debate.

I agree with ALL previous comments; that praise this conversation which is SO needed and Inga Thompson is incredibly balanced and rational. It is so frustrating to hear about the ineptness and carelessness of the IOC. Wish women could just quit the IOC, and SUCH a good point about what is the power and money behind the lack of common sense within the IOC?

I would love to watch Armstrong's thoughts on cycling, but he really needs to put out some videos that are more to the point. They don't have to be 4 or 6 minutes, but an hour + is too much. Trim it down. Hire an editor, please.

@wesdizz6297

10 ай бұрын

Some of us like long form conversation.

Nice to hear a sane conversation.

I would love to hear a discussion between Carol Hooven and Inga Thompson, minus Lance. Lance interrupted Carol so often during their podcast that I felt like I never got the opportunity to truly hear what this intelligent woman had to say on this topic.

Both of these people can speak to sex separation in sports when it makes sense and have experience with mixed events. Here are a few names that Inga can verify as lightning fast in their day..Inga herself, Rebecca, Betsy King, Heather McNair, all of Team Lycra, Patty Peoples.. many many many more..all these female athletes did training races w men. Many did the men's race w a realistic expectation of most likely not contesting the final sprint. Lance probably wants to forget his days of Eddie B yelling encouraging words at the famous Ziggurat races and because of his career path, I will confirm it for him, in some of the tiny S. California races women participated in some races in a limited capacity. Never the other way around..men never raced the women's event.Racers that I saw years ago Jeanne Golay( tall, powerful,fast) Sandy Miester( small, fit anywhere, fast ferocious) I saw both women contest training races and sanctioned men's events..the reason I named those 2, because I saw them win primes( pronounced preem) in men's events. Inga Thompson knows what she is talking about, in her day she was wicked fast and fierce competitor... she was always able to race in 90% of men's races.. she didn't because of a physical reality. All this and the most important words are from Inga .." don't deny biology" .

Clearly, the T crowd is totally dominating the discussion and owns the politics, when it took an hour of gentle, pussyfooting around a clear-cut topic to hear they both agree: sex biology matters tremendously in sports.

In general my opinion is for all sports, we are open to anyone doing any sport and competing . All are welcome anytime regardless who you are. Trans athletes ARE VERY WELCOME to compete, IN THEIR OWN categories I don't understand what the fuss is about. . I think it is most appropriate and i think the measures are taken already, having categories of male, female, non binary etc, keep it open i understand how people feel if its a male claiming to be a women going in the female category, yes i think it can make heads turn etc. i just think the categories need to be simplified more, have male, female, and a category under one name that can cover non binary, transgender etc? i think that could be the proper way to address this in sport events? thoughts?

About 8 minutes in video they were talking about stuff boys do. I had to laugh as I did some stupid stuff as young boy. Jumping off the roof of my house thinking I was superman, playing with fire, setting off firecrackers, cherry bombs and 1/4 sticks of dynamite. My 2 boys were never as reckless as me and my friends, BUT my oldest did jump off a 6 foot retaining wall with his razor scooter and ended up with 22 stitches also fractured bones and concussions from skateboarding half pipe and biking stunts. Youngest boy almost had to have surgical pins in wrist and a fractured sternum!

@WEDU do you read your comments?

I think she hit the nail on the head. It's about language too. All the terms that are being thrown around like they should mean something. How in fact can people be 'canceled'. Such a stupid term to use. I think people should really stop adopting terms that just make no sense in the scheme of things. People don't get canceled. Subscriptions get canceled. Your insurance policy gets canceled. Your netflix account gets canceled....

my first boston marathon I was just some random age grouper---everyone started at the same time back then--i remember picking off elite women with numbers on the backs, etc.....

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

This is how it would be in an 'open' class where male bodies have a natural advantage.

YT wouldn’t let me click on the video watch on the regular feed. I had to save it to watch later and only then would it play.

The UCI settled this one.

Why did the clock not move??

The green screen isnt working super well.

When life was harder you couldn’t survive without employing common sense. Now that the common sense generations are dying off, there is more advanced technology and programs to assist pretty much anyone that wants it, life has become easier and common sense has become uncommon. And like Inga said, that’s a problem.

12:30 Going through puberty as a girl or boy is mostly physical differences happening, where a trans boy or girl will be going through, primarily, a mental stage with normal puberty playing second fiddle.

Talk about the ultimate “doping” being a man in women’s sports

The UCI and now USAC have finally decided to promote fairness and reality for women cyclists. Will you do a wrap up video to cover this news?

This has set women back 70+ years

The overarching umbrella is to protect both women, trans-women, and trans-men. The sports issue is a hard one but separate. It doesn't feel fair to be born in the wrong body, that doesn't mean we have to be unfair to everyone else. I think the Trans community need to stand up and fight for cis-women rights. CM 4, 3, 2, 1, Pro; CF 4, 3, 2, 1, Pro; TM 4, 3, 2, 1, Pro; TF 4, 3, 2, 1, Pro.

Great topic I agree with you.

Why not encourage the end goal that transwomen participate in men's sports? It's not about the clothing (most sports teams wear very basic gender neutral uniforms anyway). I think many people will have the reflex to say "No way - men will never accept this". Well, seems we are all fine with women losing out, being discouraged etc. Seems like a reasonable goal to work towards.

A man has higher bone density, higher cardiovascular output, stronger musculature, quicker recovery, and tougher mental drive. Wishing the facts away doesn't change them.

@TheCyclesport

10 ай бұрын

the "tougher mental drive" I am not sure! There are some superhuman mentally badass Women out there and more power to them. I think mental aspects are sort of not what this overall topic should be considered. I think it is science-based in the womb and at birth. I think there are also some amazing athletic Women out there. And they should be celebrated equally to Men, from their own true gender sports division dominance if they can achieve that. Be kind and be true! That was well said by Inga!! Who is a champion of her sport.

@ronm9357

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that "tougher metal drive" is just chauvinistic bullshit. But the _physical_ differences are truthfully undeniable.

Alright, it’s enough now. LA is nice to listen to but somehow there is no progress in his discussions, picking up lots of topics, hardly any gets discussed/concluded

@fionam.1784

10 ай бұрын

Yes like Piers Morgan interrupting all the time. Both are hard to follow.

#LETWOMENSPEAK ❤ BODIES COMPETE NOT IDENTITIES ❌❌❣️ #KEEPMENOUTOFWOMENSSPORTS

Lance is great at conversations but he can’t finish one thought.

@danfox8819

10 ай бұрын

I thought the exact same thing. You can tell where he stands on different facets of the issue, but it’s sad to see that his conviction is lacking to the point of him stumbling through the conversation. The solution to this problem is super simple. Race organizers need to make new categories for people that claim to be something different than they were at birth. Period there is no other way to settle this issue.

@paulineweber9331

10 ай бұрын

Agree!!

@IvanGonzalez-xc8td

9 ай бұрын

Nobody is perfect, relax bud

@FreeMTrider

7 ай бұрын

I don’t think he did a bad job at all, but more importantly he stated that he’s learning and letting Inga do the talking.

@onemanfunkband5545

7 ай бұрын

Its important. It express a solid opinion.

Trying to silence these athletes is almost like riding up to a cyclist who's speaking out against doping and then making a "zip your lips" gesture. It really is reprehensible.

This isn't even a discussion -- males compete with males and females compete with females. Make new divisions if you want but it's just that simple.

1000 ways to say the same thing, even if it is screamingly obvious.

Great chat. I would love to see Lance have a sit down with some old school legends like Alexi Grewal, Rebecca Twigg. That entire 7/11 team was legendary. Add THE voice of cycling Phil Liggett also. Throw in Marcus Allen, Dave Scott, and Paula Newby Fraser from his young triathlon days too! What the heck, throw in Courtney Dauwalter for good measure….

I agree with most of what was said in this podcast, but please don't go down the conspiratorial road in explaining what's going on in terms of powerful shadowy groups. Trans advocacy groups are merely exploiting a preference in organisations to champion inclusion or at least not to appear in opposition to it. For most trans rights this is the right approach. But in women's spaces and sport a common sense approach is needed to protect women's rights. No need to theorise about dark forces.

Inga is correct. It's the politics. Regarding, biology vs ideology, you cannot discount biology.

They keep saying we are scared to stand up...WHAT ARE WE SCARED OF?

@cambell-yi2gh

9 ай бұрын

Some are scared of a viral (millions of views) post on their social media that ruins their sport/life. Like Bud Light in reverse.

Lance, would you please try to finish a sentence?

We all respect there choice, but not the fantasy of equality in sports. We all go through different experiences in life but you’re saying their hardships are harder and more important than any of ours.

You need to fix the clock

And next up, a conversation with Phillipa York?

@okantichrist

10 ай бұрын

I’d watch that

@jvogel431

10 ай бұрын

I wonder how she would place if she entered a women’s elite race at her age.

@EMC2Scotia

10 ай бұрын

@@jvogel431 Well, as she is 64 now, that might be your answer.

@jvogel431

10 ай бұрын

@@EMC2Scotia Hey there, so are you saying that she would perform well against the elite women as a 64 year old?

@EMC2Scotia

10 ай бұрын

@@jvogel431 quite the opposite. And besides, she retired from competition many, many years ago.

Well this is news to me, that it hasn't been solved by cycling. my impression was that it had been. Why, because am in the UK. And CTT (cycling time trials)have been saying for some time, the following: That first of all the Male category is now the open category and that second a transgender Male to female must compete in the open category (other way round-female to male may compete in this category). A non binary must compete in the open category. So I think that is what Inga wants (and Lance). A stickier issue may be inter-sex, which CTT are maybe talking about when they say in their regulation that the purpose of the policy is to satisfy all three below requirements. One to only compete in the category assigned at birth, two , they must not have gone through any part of Male puberty and three, that their testosterone level must not be over 2.5 nmol/L before competing even if they satisfy the first two requirements. Now let us look at BC (because in UCI and CTT are not) , it is the same. It states that Transgender Women (so therefore Male to Female) must compete in the open category. So now there is either open or Female. If there is any doubt, the open one is the one you will be competing in. This is for all competitors either in CTT or BC, so not just elite. UCI seem to be taking a more lenient view , that if you transitioned after Male puberty you must not compete in women's events. no mention of open category as far as I can see. But for masters events it will be the open category. Having said that this is as of the 14 July so 3 weeks ago you wouldn't know. Not sure how come BC and UCI are different, as BC are in UCI. Same in the US, how come they have different rules . You (Inga anyway)appeared to say there is no open category ,well why not.

As kids we all grew up reading science and how we would have mag lev trains as well as supersonic flight for everyday people. Instead we debatinf this.

How does being autistic and having sensory overload work with being homeless? I can't think of more sensory overload environment. People that become homeless due to circumstance typically turn to drugs to numb the agrophobic feeling of being exposed to the elements, helped along by their fellow homeless that are homeless due to addiction.

while listening to Inga and Lance I am reflecting on experience with trans gender athletes I coach a high school cross country team, a few years ago my girls team lost the state championship race by 3 points. later that day I learned that the winning team's second skier was trans, leaving me at a loss. Wonder how my girls would take it, I thoughtfully explained to my girls the situation. To my surprise my girls were upset with me for even thinking that it would be an issue? they were fine with second, the coaches on the other hand were (are) very disappointed. Just adding this to the whole conversation.

@carafitz8072

9 ай бұрын

Because they are terrified to speak out against it, there is so much social pressure. I went to university in the 90’s and again as a 50 year old in 2019-20, it’s jaw dropping how terrified to speak about ANYTHING students are. It is truly sad how lost and afraid this generation is.

51:28 What is Self-ID?

@Oceanfoxy

10 ай бұрын

Declaring you are a woman when you’re male, with no requirements or evidence just your own feelings, at any time, it’s extremely dangerous for woman and children which is why we’re seeing rapists being jailed with woman who are victims of sexual violence because self ID will place a violent criminals feelings over safety or rights for single sex spaces

@iamthenews5624

10 ай бұрын

@@Oceanfoxy Yup! It’s bananas! B

The problem is when ideology and politics takes over Inga being a Democrat who cares!! ..I know a Cuban American man no politics in sports just hard work and organic. X cyclists champion 3 times in my life. I grew up with Chris Carmichael Lance's coach and raced with him since 11 yrs old in Miami. The human endeavor and intelligence should be left to develop with hard work and organically. My opinion !

Lance is really owning those goofs he was on "mars" with.

@spacep0d

7 ай бұрын

Those woke morons on 'Mars' hated him from the jump. Lance handled himself pretty well.

11:07 It will never be a loving and accepting place….

Simple solution: 3rd category: Misfits. Anything goes - have at it :)

Sport's , men that think their women Division in sports would work ! Back When 7 11 teams the magazine So Awesome Then the Trek 2000 LoL !

58:44 what do transwomen know about breast cancer?

@KBella2324

10 ай бұрын

not as a biological woman, they don’t: they never went through female puberty, they have never had a child(yes, some biological females have never had children)they never had a menstrual cramp/bloating, they have different chromosomes, they don’t have a uterus, ovaries or the ability to breast feed milk. transgender women are biological men, this is basic science.

@annoravetz5908

9 ай бұрын

Males get breast cancer, too.

I identify as a motorcyclist even though I only have bicycles.

Throw a woman’s team in the Tour De France and watch what happens.

@sarahnewton2550

9 ай бұрын

They did, it’s the Tour de France avec Zwift

Just add female Cheetahs and Dolphins, to male sports. And watch the pushbacks.

So great to have two people apply critical thinking to a subject that is quite simple to understand.

Common sense returns? We can only hope...

"listening to all these loons?" If you want to have a podcast that people want to listen to, don't denigrate 50% of your viewers.

Round & round in fall over himself nice circles trying not to offend anyone. ‘If scientists could make a pill and then it was even , well I suppose we’d say ok. No lance. Lance that boil you have. That’s magical thinking. Women are women. Men are men , The end.

48:39 What are they going to do to Title 9?

Inga is amazing 👏. LANCE is just so ridiculous, his entire demeanor is off. I know it may be uncomfortable for him but speak to the TRUTH which is biology. I only watch this because of inga ...Lance i see why you are a lifetime cheater

With all the drugs that Lance has taken over the years, perhaps he's considering a transition to be Miss Lacey Armstrong? Opens up a whole new opportunity to race in the Tour de France femmes. If he fails a drug test in that race, then he could always claim that it was for his transition surgery. Lance brings turd polishing to a whole notha level.

Clock on the wall not moving forward…

Tucker Carlson in not a loon! I like these conversations too, but when you were off-handed about Tucker, I had to comment

LANCE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN STRIPED OF HIS TITLES. NO MATTER WHAT LANCE DID OR DIDN'T DO ; HE COULD NOT HAVE WON IF HE WASN'T THE ATHLETE HE WAS. TRANSGENDER COMPETING AGAINST WOMEN, HOW IS THAT A LEGIT, OR A HONEST WIN. WHY IS THIS BEING A OPRAH MOMENT; YOU GET A MEDAL, YOU GET A MEDAL, AND WE ALL GET A MEDAL. WHAT WE WANT FOR OURSELVES , AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS TRUTH FOR OURSELVES IS NOT REALITY. EXCEPTING YOUR TRUTH DOES COME AT A COST; NOT AT THE COST OF OTHERS.

@pmoormann

10 ай бұрын

Uhhhh..........he broke rules of UCI

Girl I want your job. I would love to ride an excavator and other farm equipment

Lance, a cheater who ruined many people lives, has rebranded himself as an anti trans demagogue.

Get a real clock.

You want to be trans fine but stop trying to be something that you are not. It's pretty simple. Funny how trans women that are now men are not trying to compete against men !

Why give this insanity any credence with this kind of protracted discussion. Just reject it. The real issue is the deliberate social engineering driving this and what the end game is. This is not a spontaneous movement.

1:00:39 Why to transwomen get to change our sports, use descriptors to describe us? Who do they think they are? 🤦‍♀️