I am 80 years old. I remember when Caitlyn first came out. I really enjoyed this interview. I found it very informative and educational.

I think Caitlin is one of the few people who's looking at this in the common sense way it needs to be done. It's not emotional, it's a matter of just science and how men and women are built differently....period!

@ChristalBowlby

10 ай бұрын

I love the common sense and respect that Caitlyn has. This is the thing that people don't understand. Most people will be accepting and give respect if they also get it. We, on our own, will be supportive if given a chance verses what is going on now with the excessive and forced trans/pride movement etc. When it comes to biological men in sports in my opinion that isn't fair but again, if it's not a forced issue I'll bet we could come up with something that worked for everyone to be fair and respectful to all. Now when it comes to all the teaching all this stuff in schools, drag queen hour etc, that is a HARD no. Stay away from the kids. These issues should be dealt with by God, the parents, and whatever professional they seek and vet for their particular situation. Quit trying to indoctrinate childen. When you are an adult, such as Caitlyn, live your life as you choose and we will respect your decisions as a grown person capable of your own critical thinking regarding your own life and how you want to live it.

@elizabethgrogan8553

10 ай бұрын

​@@ChristalBowlbyI fully agree. I spoke to my daughter, using age appropriate words, about her body and it's functions. I answered her questions truthfully as she grew. One day, when walking in the park, she said "mom, those 2 women are kissing". I looked over and told my daughter how some women fall in love with women and boys fall in love with boys. She accepted my answers. She is now a lovely straight young woman who has respect for others. 2 of her closest friends are a married couple of young men. I really love how they look out for my girl. I don't want others doing my job in this matter. I'm more concerned that children are made aware of stranger danger and know that their body is theirs alone. Teachers should concentrate in that.

@ptulip

10 ай бұрын

Very sensible. The Lea Thompson stuff is interesting.

@leiselmower1529

10 ай бұрын

@@ptulip I agree, it's very interesting and I support her desire to be a woman in any way she can....EXCEPT when her biology catapults her to an unfair advantage because of her muscle mass....that's it. But it is interesting, these conversations have to happen...

@leiselmower1529

10 ай бұрын

@@ChristalBowlby I agree, everyone should have a right to choose for themselves but I don't think we want our school systems to be the voice of what's acceptable and what's not. They should simply teach the laws of the land and how they apply to all the different people.....that's it...because that's fact and history as it's being written.

Fantastic conversation! I'm a 55-year old lesbian who came out in 1984 so I've seen it all. That was back before it was even LGB. And I knew trans folks starting in 1988 and loved them back then. In fact, what struck me was how they were all quite mature, compassionate people which I attributed in part to the struggles they'd survived. It's been thrilling to see society embracing (in large part) the LGBTQ community because I literally never thought I'd see the day that I could openly marry another woman. I absolutely think Bruce/Caitlyn deserves a lot of credit for moving the trans community forward. And, Caitlyn is so pretty and a beautiful person. She's one hot 73-year old woman! 😍 I also agree that biological males should play men's sports. I don't see why they can't play with men AND be allowed to dress/behave feminine. Let them be themselves while playing men's sports. It's a tough issue for sure. Thank you both.

A voice for fairness and an important approach to this very sensitive issue. Thank you Caitlyn, we need to protect women’s spaces. ❤

As an ex elite athlete I feel Caitlyn has a unique position to discuss the impact of trans people in sports. Her position is valid, treat people with respect, encourage acceptance with the realization that it is not a level playing field.

@annieleouzon6598

10 ай бұрын

Bruce was the ex elite athlete, not Caitlyn.....He was a very good looking man then, now he is an ugly looking medusa...

@rabbit9360

10 ай бұрын

Stop calling a Bruce a woman! Bruce is XY chromosomes…so Bruce is a dude!

@remogatron1010

10 ай бұрын

He looks so male looking to me.

@magalissantiago2817

10 ай бұрын

Respect? The way Trump and Republicans treat people, which one of them is respectful.

@wouldntulike2no125

10 ай бұрын

@@Kruimeltjeliefyou don’t see trans men in sports because they have too much testosterone in their bodies. It supersedes the policy that is in place that prevents athletes from using performance enhancing drugs..I.e. copious amounts of testosterone. That’s one of the reasons. Isn’t that ironic?

No one better qualified to answer these questions from the standpoint of fairness and experience. Great discussion.

@arellatikvah

10 ай бұрын

Neither of these two have any idea what Fairness is. 🤦🏼‍♀️

@sandrost4243

10 ай бұрын

@aldabat3903 Good for you.

@michelekoupai

9 ай бұрын

yup! My thoughts exactly. She is the perfect person to speak on it.

As a biologist and later RN, it is absolutely not fair for trans women to compete with biological women. As a a biologist, I studied biology of the human both male and women. Men are biologically of superior strength but not endurance. That award goes to women. Later I as a RN, I was able to observe the strength between men and women. There was no comparison. The nursing staff lifted patients all day long. A male could easily out lift 3 women. I actually witnessed a male nurse pick up a male patient having a grand mal seizure off the floor like a baby!! Also, male nurses and aids that I worked with never complained of back pain like women did. We all had back pain. After working as a nurse for 35 years, I am now retired. Unfortunately, my back is wrecked and I am disabled. Don’t feel sorry for me. I loved nursing and would not change a minute of it. It was heck of a lot more exciting than being in a lab all day as a biologist. 😊 Deborah Chapman, RN, BS, BSN, MSN

@clhowy87

2 ай бұрын

Nurses mean the WORLD to me. They solely made the 3 times I gave birth bearable. They were compassionate and even tough/no nonsense when they had to be. Thank you doesn’t begin to cover how much I appreciate those women. My oldest is 30 and I still remember them fondly. 💕🫶🏼

@deborahchapman222

2 ай бұрын

@@clhowy87 That was one of the sweetest comments that I have ever read. Thank you 🙏 💗Debbie RN

@clhowy87

2 ай бұрын

@@deborahchapman222 awww you’re so cute! No thanks necessary … I owe your whole profession the thank you.! 2 more quick (sorta) stories: 1. I had appendicitis after having my 3rd child and I made sure to go back to the same hospital (because of the care i'd received). Of course the nurses were different, but they were still just as amazing! When i was discharged I asked my husband if it would be OK if we walked through the same floor I had our daughter before we leave? I think I was having separation anxiety from those wonderful people. 2. Two years ago I got a call that my father was in ICU and close to dying. I raced into town (we lived in different states), hoping to get there before it was too late. When I arrived he wasn’t able to talk anymore but they said and he could probably hear me. I cried harder than i ever had in my life. I remember seeing this young nurse in the corner of the room, and she was crying too! I thought to myself she doesn’t even know me or my dad poor young lady must have such an emotionally draining job to be that vested in 2 strangers. After my dad passed, she gave me a little vile that had his heartbeat curled up inside of it from one of the machine's (sorry not sure which one...ekg maybe?). That was quite, possibly the sweetest most kindest thing I’ve ever been given in my life.

@jtrastan4607

29 күн бұрын

I find exactly the same looking after patients, some of which I am unable to roll on my own, while another is washing. Men can roll the same patient and reach over and wash at the same time. Sometimes I find that when old ladies get used to having a man help them and then they get me, they take one look at me and refuse to move. I don't look safe enough in their eyes. My nephew got stuck up a tall structure when he was tiny. He would not move as I went up for him but had trust in my male friend immediately

I really enjoyed playing co-ed volleyball, softball, and I even tried basketball a couple of times. We did have some trans athletes with us, and we had a great time. It doesn't matter at that point. But when you have a highly competitive level when it comes down to fractions of seconds, and there are scholarships at risk, gold medals, world championships and records, there has to be a stringent level of fairness, and things have to be at the chromosomal level.

@dharmainitiative9152

9 ай бұрын

Scholarships and other financial rewards are being stolen. It’s not just about medals.

@sarahwieland3243

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@argosz8046

8 ай бұрын

Not to mention post competition opportunities as brand reps for big money marketing etc.

@marlahart2060

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree with all you said. I always played coed softball.

@roccoravello4738

4 ай бұрын

Playing coed for fun is not the same as “coed”competitive

It's so refreshing to hear from a transwoman in the media who's sane, rational, reasonable, and common sense, especially regarding protecting women's sports.

@user-ih8yb8lc9s

8 ай бұрын

Caitlyn is so professional and ethical on her processing the real deal being fair

@Carolina-ut3ks

Ай бұрын

Real trans women are very sensible its the trans trenders and activist that alot of time dont even have (gender dysphoria) that push gender ideology down peoples throats

@lindasands1433

Ай бұрын

Yes. Isn't it refreshing!?

Crazy how this is getting comments of being a brave interview…….no, it’s an interview between people who have both actual experience and common sense with logical views that make sense over an extreme ideology that has become fashionable. Great interview and let’s hope Caitlin’s voice and views prevail. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@song4mozart

10 ай бұрын

I am hoping this is the majority. From my experience, it is the majority; however, the media - mainstream and social - try to purport it's the opposite.

@adrianrosado2223

9 ай бұрын

In this world, you have to be brave to have different viewpoints than a small portion of society that think they hold the right to the entire narrative

@RosanFarinas

7 ай бұрын

​​@@Kruimeltjeliefporque se não aceitarem o lógico e real, eles cancelam sem dó as pessoas! Isso é um absurdo...o cancelamento é uma forca pronta para ser usada aos que se atrevem pensar diferente.

Who better to talk about this than someone who is an elite athlete like her. She has a very sound view on this and more importantly based on EXPERIENCE.

@roberthoeg1964

9 ай бұрын

Seriously you cannot call her an athlete 😒 he was an athlete. But is all OK if you're republican lies he/she tells.😂I'm surprised it doesn't think Martina Navratilova is a man.

@mariapetherbridge3116

Ай бұрын

Mr/Ms Jenner thank you for being so honest. I hope, that if you haven't you do have a program to help people like you. Write that manual, to help people who are insane out there get real meaning in their lives. The fact that you accept you have gender uforia., and blessed with an accepting family, be blessed. You are a hero among the alphabet group, they make a joke of what you say. That's why I want you to write a booklet about your own experience. A genderuforia book wiil help children to realize they might suffer even from Autism. Stopping the mutilation and healing the spirit and soul first, till the age of 18 (in my country 21).Then when you want to change it is on you, take responsibility for your own decisions youngsters. To the teachers:, SHUT UP! IT'S THE PARENT'S RIGHTS TO BRING UP THEIR OWN CHILDREN. It's your business to look after the children who are suffering and being brutelized by their "parents" BUT YOU don't care America. Always taking the Americans attention's attention away from the REAL problems. Thinking the awarage American is stupid.

Ms. Jenner was incredibly open, transparent and funny. It was a great interview. Ms. Jenner had some really interesting comments, "I am for fairness, not equity in female sports". And, "leave our kids alone, let them go play, let them be kids".

@alexred1038

10 ай бұрын

Mr

@JH-nj8up

10 ай бұрын

@@alexred1038Bruce

@brazilianbold

10 ай бұрын

@@alexred1038would you at least acknowledge the fact that Caitlyn is trying to act as fair as possible and really account for what she’s saying instead of just being a troll? All the ignorance without hearing the other person out isn’t doing ANYTHING

@alexred1038

10 ай бұрын

@@brazilianbold Bruce killed a person while recklessly driving. Accountability shouldn’t be an inference in your retort to exalt him. Go sound your ignorance elsewhere.

@gracie30ish

8 ай бұрын

​@@alexred1038You're the problem with society. I hate what's going on too with all the LGBTQ mafia craziness but because of what they are doing but this transgender person is right and standing up for what is right but you cant acknowledge that because you really are a bigot.

I genuinely had no idea that Caitlyn was this grounded and honest..... it's shocked me.... even just the admission of "I'm genetically male" .... just.....wow

@abdul-kabiralegbe5660

10 ай бұрын

I had the same reaction too.

@teeokeefe

10 ай бұрын

agreed - there's a troll here in the comments... helpmboab... that is simply stuck on repeat insisting Caitlin is "he" and blah blah blah - on the topic of the video, I was impressed with Caitlin's comments. Very candid and composed.

@pauliosantos6379

10 ай бұрын

@@teeokeefe In all fairness, they are only speaking the same truth as Caitlyn in a way, so if they are trying to troll, they aren't doing a great job of it :)

@teeokeefe

10 ай бұрын

@@pauliosantos6379 Thanks for giving me that perspective. it's a good one!

@teeokeefe

10 ай бұрын

@@helpmboab2034 touche

Caitlin said it best, “Sports is about fairness, not equity”. I appreciate his candour.

@Prieze868

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate h.e.r. candour Caitlin was born with the female brain at animates her body is she wouldn't be able to come across female that she was a real man!

@Youtuber5775-

10 ай бұрын

Her candor. 😂

@rvandy5728

10 ай бұрын

@@KZreadr5775- I wondered if anyone would catch that😳

@TheDwainfortune

10 ай бұрын

@@rvandy5728 we all did

@chickbowdrie4750

10 ай бұрын

yes, "his" candor. Caitlin Jenner is still a man

This very real and classy. Thank you Caitlin for keeping it real. I’m 60 and women fought hard for their sports. This is so important and I hope we find a way to let trans people play without ruining women’s sports.

@iolitelight

10 ай бұрын

Classy? That comment about not wanting a dinky little trophy for girls is classy?

@hreitz4169

10 ай бұрын

Caitlin's keeping it real, and I agree, very classy, however is it really "God" she should be asking? It's only nature. I'm sure there are plenty of animals out there who are plenty confused, and they just keep on, keeping on. The only difference is, that (some) humans, have come to understand that nature is very diverse. Who are we to look down on someone who is different? Not seeing this in the animal world.

@Wishes890

10 ай бұрын

It's simple, give trans athletes their own ranking, like was done for special Olympics.

@Wishes890

10 ай бұрын

​@@hreitz4169I highly doubt that any animals are "confused". Animals don't have egos that need to be stroked. They have 3 things on their minds, finding food, reproducing and survival.

@iolitelight

10 ай бұрын

@@Wishes890 There are so few trans athletes that doing such a thing actually just excludes them. Most would have no one to compete against.

Ive never been a big Caitlyn Jenner fan but this... I have mad respect for Jenner in this. I can feel that Caitlyn does have respect for women and are on our side and im glad we have someone like this on our side with everything going on right now. This was awesome and def changed my views on Caitlyn Jenner immensely.

Watched this out of curiosity tbh, and found it enlightening. Caitlyn does that rare thing - talks plain common sense. 👏🏼

@BertSmithLondon

10 ай бұрын

Me too, I expected to switch it off in under a minute, but I couldn't.

@alexandrathom-heinrich4053

9 ай бұрын

Me too

@michelekoupai

9 ай бұрын

lol so rare right

I have such respect for Caitlyn Jenner. Fairness in sports.

@1vaneligbruker

10 ай бұрын

She doesn't care. She called Lance a world champion

@keeshoogtevrees-jv9ps

9 ай бұрын

This caitly looks like a man

@deanfitzgerald6912

6 ай бұрын

Ha HA lance fairness

OMG....so much respect. One of my favorite people on this planet starting today. Just had no idea what a genuine, practical, amazing woman Caitlyn is.

@leenelson6976

8 ай бұрын

i could not agree more!!!!!

@helendancelot

8 ай бұрын

Trans identified male

I think the important thing to really take away when hearing Caitlyn talk is that if she could be “normal” and not have to deal with her gender dysphoria she would much rather go that route. Not to mention she’s really blossomed after her transition not just in her appearance but she’s doing more interviews, and talking, and laughing with people on public platforms more than she ever felt comfortable to do as Bruce. I honestly hope we can all find that kind of contentment and it shows it’s never too late to live for yourself. Very good interview!

@emilythompson7594

Ай бұрын

Excellent comment

I was a competitive swimmer and I want to thank you both of you for speaking out for women’s sports. You can support trans rights and oppose Lia Thomas and other bio males competing against bio women in sports. I support trans rights but oppose this insanity of having bio males compete against bio women. My son and I were talking about this issue recently and he turned to me and said it this issue would never happen to trans men because men would never tolerate it nor would the greater community. I see gay men who’ve never as much as run a 50 yard dash as the loudest supporters in favor of bio men cheating in women’s sports. This is a feminist issue and is a reminder that misogyny is alive and well in the LGBDQ community. Btw Martina was labeled a terf for speaking out against bio men participating in women’s sports and the glbdq rights community pilloried her, of all people, now if that isn’t insanity I don’t know what is. I’m also an athlete and wondered how Lia Thomas could live with herself, what I came up with was simple, the trans community isn’t any different than any other group and they have sociopaths in them, too.

Lance and Caitlyn, two strong ADD’ers having a dynamic duo “interrupted” conversation about a TOUGH topic! Loved it…thank you both.

@FullSugarBrah

11 ай бұрын

Bruce is a man pretending to be a woman.

@OakleafOrganic

10 ай бұрын

@@FullSugarBrah at about 24:00 "I am a genetic male. I suffer from a condition called gender dysphoria." What's your dysfunction?

@danmcgilldm

10 ай бұрын

Is it a tough topic, or a topic used to further find reason to hate on different groups. Is it groomer Desanctimonious, or Sexual Abuser Trump who said if they are president, they will insure Transgender people can't serve in the military? If we can be honest in real discussions, then a real solution can be made but when prejudice people with hateful thoughts hide behind real issues, why should people trust them? You have right wing mouth piece matt Walsh lying on Joe Rogan's podcast saying millioms of kids each year taking hormone blockers but to Joe's credit he fact checked him and blatantly told him the true number.Honest discussions can't be had when people can't be honest and are just blabbering fools spreading hate and lies.

Caitlyn Jenner without knowing this would ever happen is so so important in this conversation. She is absolutely spot on. Great discussion between Caitlyn and Lance.

Caitlin, I appreciate your leadership in keeping women’s sports “fair.” I hope you will be able to take your voice of wisdom and common sense to the law makers.

I like Caitlyn because she doesn’t try to shove it down your throat and she’s sensible about fairness in sports. I wish the Kardashians and younger Jenner kids treated her better.

@melvynobrien6193

10 ай бұрын

HE. He's a he, Bruce Jenner. This "Caitlin" shit is just a fantasy.

@danmcgilldm

10 ай бұрын

They treat him better than most of the maga crowd that Bruce praises. How can they respect him, when he can't respect himself.

@SnowboardJedi

10 ай бұрын

That's Bruce Jenner fool

@gailmpintos7232

Ай бұрын

Treated her better? Kim said she was horrified the first time she came home one day and found Bruce in drag. How DARE he publically drag his family thru this. People are born XX or XY. The rest is bullshit.

I grew up with Bruce, but don't really keep dibs on Katlin much, or her family or anything. But I think that I could sit down with her for hours, just listening to her rare perspective on life, and stories about anything. Her mind is still sharp as a tack as well. She is a pretty cool human being.

@pisces1017

5 ай бұрын

My dad as well. He's from Buffalo. He says first OJ....then Bruce. But he has a lot of respect for Bruce bc I watched the Kardashians and times change. People aren't who we think they are and we live in a time where people can feel better about being themselves. She did it fair in sports. She cares about the sport and the fairness of it all.

Live your truth! Life is short, follow happiness, don’t hurt others. So much respect for these two.

@neanda

9 ай бұрын

💯

My heart goes out to the high school volleyball girl who played against a team with a trans person and she got clocked in the head with a ball the trans player hit. At that age, you have not developed the reactions to defend yourself against that type of physicality. After going through a college program, and then competing with men on a recreational level, you can become more defensive and can deal with a hard-hit ball. Not in high school! Back in the day, our volleyball coach would bring in some guys from his team to work with us. We were improving, but those guys were not going full-out by any means.

As a parent of a Womens soccer D1, I appreciate Caitlyn’s honesty about fairness! I’d be pissed if a person took her spot on the field! Thanks Lance!

@My2CentsYall

11 ай бұрын

The answer is simple but because this is political everyone want to put their heads in the sand. Programs that have the honorable Mention program allow ANYONE to participate, it does not discriminate against people for gender, sexual orientation, or ability. If its a specific race for example female 400 meter dash people with qualifying time would be in the match. The winner for example if they are trans would get first place honorable mention but the specific event holder would get the first place and the accolades attached like NCAA qualification. Honorable mention could go all the way up to NCAA level. The only thing competitors would get is better without feeling they were duped out of anything which is the current stance because of the current politics. Local officials have not made these changes to draw the ire of people. (retyped several times because i have ADHD).

@Friday0891

11 ай бұрын

"I'd be pissed if a *Person* took her spot" Absolute clown world.

@dereknovaes4217

11 ай бұрын

@@Friday0891 You’re smart! Real smart!

@FullSugarBrah

11 ай бұрын

His name is BRUCE.

@Friday0891

11 ай бұрын

@dereknovaes4217 buddy, you're soo afraid to say it as it is, even in the case of your own daughter!! You'd be pissed if a *Man* took her place

I love how Lance brought up the fairness issue. He did a great job in this interview! Caitlin's honesty is very educational!

@bridgeth7961

10 ай бұрын

LOL. Lance and fairness.

@davidjessee7701

8 ай бұрын

I think it was Caitlin who brought up fairness not equality

@leenelson6976

8 ай бұрын

100%

Well done Cait. Thank you for being the voice that cannot be challenged. This phase will pass, I'm sure,but many women are greatful that you have spread your views all over media. And thanks for exposing the business medical machine that is driving a philosophy of passive acceptance when troubled children present themselves. It is criminal. Well done, you two.

Caitlyn you are a wonderful person. Albeit I was upset to hear you transitioned because it was a shock. I am over it even though I didn’t have that right. Thank you for standing up for fairness in everything.

Brave interview! Thank you so much to both for being bold and open on such a complex topic. We need more of this ❤

@MsSnowball21

11 ай бұрын

Fairness over equity. 💯 % agree!

@PureMagma

11 ай бұрын

I believe we need to support "goals" but out of fairness to others not necessarily every single goal an individual can conjure up. If "Transitioning to another gender" is the goal, I don't have any issues with a person expressing their identity. ...BUT when you decide to make a cocktail out of your goals so it's "I want to transition AND also I want to participate in a competitive sport" it's a shift in "motive" that should not be allowed because it causes undue harm to another. Maybe I want to be a princess. I can buy myself a tiara, a regal looking mantle, an ornate chair that can be my thrown... I might even convince my friends and family to address me a certain way. For the most part all of that is my prerogative! BUT, should I attempt to levy a tax on the people in my neighborhood and demand special treatment... suddenly I am overstepping my boundaries in a way that creates harm towards others. Which is completely NOT acceptable.

@charlesbrown-cv3jx

10 ай бұрын

The sad part is, that this shouldn't even be a conversation

@kwabenatree

10 ай бұрын

Sports is never fair

@ronshd7769

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, it shouldn't be complex. There's men's leagues and women's leagues. Your chromosomes determine which one a person competes in.

Thank you Lance and Caitlyn for being fearless on this topic. Well done.

@jaimeizreal8810

11 ай бұрын

Great comment.

@smokexsmoke99

11 ай бұрын

There's nothing wrong with supporting transgender rights. Transgender women are women. Nearly all cis women support transgender rights and have no problem with them being in female spaces like changing rooms, shelters, and sports. Transgender women are not going to cause any problems for cis women.

@FullSugarBrah

11 ай бұрын

Romans 1:26-32

@ruego-qj7bt

10 ай бұрын

A monumental cheat and a certifiable kook..oh, they're 'fearless' alright.

Only about 15 minutes into this but already surprised and edified. Have always deeply liked and respected both Bruce and Caitlyn Jenner and can't think of anyone who could be a more pertinent voice on this issue. When it comes to "elite and professional sport" level, I would defer to Lance and Caitlyn on this.

Thank you soo much for speaking to/about the children. This is what most people really don't like, leave the children alone and let them make their own decisions when they get older and their brains are fully developed. Nobody cares what an adult does as long they don't hurt anyone or anyone's property (libertarian still at heart) and yes most people believe that people should follow their hearts. Thank you Caitlyn for your talk and so glad that you are happy.

@exoticalBecky_Miami

10 ай бұрын

You say that but then ball with the ball the bang the bang guy whatever the heck is name was... He got super violent and cause an entire movement with like-minded people over one adult sending another adult one can

Thank you, Caitlyn, for being genuine. Appreciate this conversation- and agree we all need to be talking about this equally with genuine understanding for women and the need for the preservation of single-sex categories in sport. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ELITE SPORT. The majority of women who play sport are note elite- we won't have elite women in sport if young girls lose out on opportunities or are discouraged by having an unfair playing field.

@scotthorkey2171

11 ай бұрын

What are the stats that young girls are suffering from trans-girls in their sports? I just wonder if this is really an issue at anything below elite-level.

@happyfan7984

10 ай бұрын

@@scotthorkey2171 Almost never, ever happens... anywhere.

@iolitelight

10 ай бұрын

Yet Caitlyn plays golf in women's events.

@iolitelight

10 ай бұрын

​@@scotthorkey2171The trans community is so small that this issues isn't that common. And forcing trans athletes into a third or separate category in effect creates such a small pool of competitors that it nullifies it. And I frankly don't think that either of these two should speak about fairness when she competes against women in golf and he was a blood doper. I think discussion is important but these two aren't exactly the right ones for this.

@leiselmower1529

10 ай бұрын

@@iolitelight he doesn't compete in golf, he plays for fun with friends so it's not the same. He admits that if it were a competition, he wouldn't do it. His competition was a man, now he's a trans woman who has the best perspective on how he feels as a trans woman playing sports....it's UNFAIR, he knows it. It's biological, nothing more. I'm all for trans women and for equal treatment in 99% of everything they do...they're women, they've struggled because they were born in the wrong body, that's the hardest! BUT, their biological body as a man isn't even close in strength to what the biological woman has. It's not an emotional answer, just one of science and common sense. I'm with this group in every other right they want.....except for this one.

Thank you for this, I had no idea how personable this would be. I felt like I was sitting in the fuzzy chair myself. I’m 62 ,and by the by the way Caitlyn you are still a young pup, YOU GO GIRL!!!! I got a little choked up when you spoke of your LD ,as I have one too, and I hated it growing up, and sometimes now ,talk about having a label on your four head. So pleased you were able to do sports and become great at it! Thank you for your honesty and realness,and moving forward to keep our young lady athletes safe from injury. Thank you Mr Armstrong. Cuddles from Alberta Canada Canada 🇨🇦🇨🇦🍁🍁🌺🧘‍♀M

Caitlyn is my hero for addressing this issue--thank you Caitlyn.

I love that Caitlin brings up the safety of “women’s spaces,” and the rules of the sport. She, no doubt, catches grief for her outspoken views of how unfair the trans agenda (in sports) really is. Overall, anyone who has two brain cells, knows what the trans agenda REALLY is, and how it’s being used to get the masses to accept what’s coming. God help us all.

Great conversation Lance. A new level of respect for Caitlyn now. I fully agree, in that, it's not about equity, it's about what's fair and reasonable.

@cincydooley

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc Seriously, you’re the worst.

@craigcusack1751

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc if you actually listen to the interview and didn't mount you virtuous high horse and become enraged so quickly you would note that whilst Caitlyn participates in organised golf she stated that she does not and could not accept prize money or other place awards as it would be unfair to take those away from the women involved as she acknowledged she has an unfair advantage being born a biological male. Now get back in your box!

@FullSugarBrah

11 ай бұрын

Bruce will always have male chromosomes. He will always be a man.

Balanced and well covered, Lance. I'm looking forward to the rest to the Podcasts in this series!

People fear what they don't understand. We need more conversations like this to help society have a little more understanding.

This was an excellent interview! I have to admit, it took me some time to get use to Caitlin’s new look but every time I hear her speak, she is so real and down to earth and I’m really happy to hear her opinions and truly happy for her in general. For you Lance, I honestly never cared much about cycling. I knew you were famous ofc and heard about your unfortunate health diagnosis but happy you caught it and survived! This is my first time listening to you as an interviewer but you knocked it out of the park on this one! Both of you are funny and smart! Thank you!🙏 New sub here!

I've been a fan of Lance since Oslo 1993. His podcasts pull no punches. Essential listening.💪

@yourmamalikesmacncheese

11 ай бұрын

He's a notorious cheater of immense scale. He made himself incredibly wealthy through lies and cheating. He fooled fans, officials and his peers. He lacks virtue. He got caught. That's only reason why we know he cheated.

@markfournette2483

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc If everybody in the sport at the time "cheated"--which they did--then that WAS the sport. And: news flash--they still do it today. In every single sport. Maybe don't watch.

@NonFlyiingDutchman

11 ай бұрын

@@markfournette2483 They didn't all cheat

@markfournette2483

11 ай бұрын

@@NonFlyiingDutchman if you are thinking of Bassons, then you are simply proving my point. Pro cycling ran on gear back then and it does today, the same as every other sport. If you don't like it don't watch it.

@mtl-ss1538

11 ай бұрын

@@NonFlyiingDutchman The NASCAR weekend in Chicago saw the rain come and go at the Chicago Street Course. Three-time Repco Supercars champion Shane van Gisbergen beat the Cup regulars to put Trackhouse Racing's PROJECT91 car in Victory Lane on debut!

Thank goodness. A sensible debate from people who know what they're talking about. It's non negotiable - no males in female sport.

What an amazing interview. Caitlyn is such a genuine person. As a liberal, I respect her views 100%. She deserves to be an authority on this topic through her accomplishments and life she has lived.

Interesting, Armstrong talking about fairness in sport. Good on him, this is a very balanced interview and it’s very real and appropriate.

@marciamakoviecki3295

10 ай бұрын

Ironic

@thetimeisnow1210

10 ай бұрын

@@marciamakoviecki3295 do you truly believe lance was the only cyclist using PEDs during those tours?!! You silly and have no clue! He sure as hell wasn’t the only one! Stop being closed minded…

@rosep8481

10 ай бұрын

I think his sport was and maybe still is actually unfair for the athletes who weren’t using PEDS

@simonarmitage2591

10 ай бұрын

@@rosep8481 it’s a really good point. Perhaps elite athletes who reach the top of their sports aren’t the best people to judge. All athletes who reach the very top of their sport are genetically gifted, if Caitlyn Jenner was 5’4 instead of 6’2 then I doubt the gold medal would’ve happened- she’d probably be serving burgers at Maccas. It all gets very cloudy.

@KarinKuiper

10 ай бұрын

Very interesting. The very last person who should get a say in this. He was a walking pharmacy when he won the Tours. I'm very happy he came back from severe illness, but there's nothing fair about winning that kind of competition on dope.

It’s not complicated they are men

@michaellee8815

10 ай бұрын

WHAT?!! BIGOT!!! HOW DARE YOU BRING REALITY INTO THIS

@im_your_mayo_man

10 ай бұрын

You're homophobic ! 😡

@virginiap4966

10 ай бұрын

When they pass away and their coffins reopened....man bones..still a man.

@annoravetz5908

10 ай бұрын

It's not complicated, trans in women's sports are still men.

@im_your_mayo_man

10 ай бұрын

@@virginiap4966 I'm transgender and you're homophobic !! 😡

This trans stuff is so alien to me, I will never get my head round it, but I enjoyed that interview so much. My respect for Caitlyn has gone through the roof, I've never seen 5 seconds of The Kardashians, but I know what he did as an athlete.

I Loved this !!! Such an informative conversation. Such an eye opener ! Thank you Lance and Caitlyn !! I have so much respect for you both for this conversation. This should be talked about so much more . Thank you thank you !!!

I love this interview so much. Love what Caitlyn says

Outstanding conversation...Thanks Lance & Caitlyn!

A much needed discussion! Phenomenal interview. Clear eyed and frank discussion. Thank you, Lance and Caitlyn for this courageous effort.

@FullSugarBrah

11 ай бұрын

Bruce. Say his name.

@lesleyhughes3174

10 ай бұрын

​@@FullSugarBrahHappy now? Visit just to add your bit of ignorance? Sad existence.

@iolitelight

10 ай бұрын

​@@lesleyhughes3174A lot of the people in this forum actually don't care about fairness, they want to go far beyond sports and codify restrictions on transgender people. Because they're bigots.

“It might take some ball!” 😂😂😂 Two fantastic athletes, world champions! ❤ thanks for the conversation!

"Fairness means treating people according to their needs. This does not always mean it will be equal. Equality means treating everyone exactly the same." Love use of this term in this.

Absolutely excellent. Lance gets better and better. Well done to WEDU. Looking forward to TdF The Move.

New found respect for Caitlyn. That's wisdom to all of you out there.

I agree with Caitlyn Jenner’s position 100%. Her position is not only ‘fair’; she has seen sports at the highest level and is transgender. Because of this, her opinion is extremely valuable to me and I believe it should be to the rest of this country and to the extended world. She has lived as both a man and a woman. For many decades, she both experienced, dealt with, and thought about this very ‘issue’ in its many iterations. Good for her (and good for us )that she shares her wisdom.

You have explained it better than anyone I have seen. I wish people could see this. Did not expect to enjoy this conversation but I left informed.

Huge respect for you both. Big fans of both of you back in your athletic days & bigger fan of the older yous. People can criticize either of you all they want but to reinvent one’s self is near impossible and you have both done it in your own ways. Great discussion on a topic that’s not going away. Discussion is the most important part of any topic. If we can’t have it, what are we even doing. Well done 👍

@michellevey9608

11 ай бұрын

I couldn't have said it any better!

@kevbama5827

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc They were all cheating dope! The TDF doesn't post any winners for those years for a reason. You need to educate yourself on the sport and what took place and has happened since before brazenly making such ridiculous comments. Sorry if I seem ugly but his is getting old. Fewer people actually comment like you do but every now and then there's always one in the bunch.

@jazzman1904

8 ай бұрын

As we learned with Ben Johnson, the competing athletes, including the runners with Ben and bikers with Armstrong, were all taking the drugs. It was a level playing field.

Finally a discussion on this complex topic that for me makes things very clear through common sense, experience and understanding of the whole picture. 10 out of 10 well done to both of you.

@Alexcustominstall

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc A very sensible and logical discussion. It could have been two random people, anyone in-fact and it would still be so.

@huwsparky175303

11 ай бұрын

It's not complex at all. It's made out to be complex though.

@Alexcustominstall

11 ай бұрын

@@huwsparky175303 100% agree it’s not complex (for me at least) but it seems to be for most.

@tylerbrooks4892

10 ай бұрын

There is nothing complex about this....men play in mens leagues, women play in women's leagues....start a trans league if you want, but there is literally zero reason to have this conversation, it's ridiculous.

Tx Caitlin. You are for real. I am glad you are now the person you want to be. A class act. Women fought hard for sports. I don’t want my granddaughters who are good athletes to not ever have a chance to win a competition

What a great interview So glad I watched . I understand a lot more by her explaining her journey and feelings.

Fascinating conversation, thank you for sharing!

Thanks, Lance & Caitlyn for your courage to do this - you are the pinnacle of resolution for this topic in the USA 🍻

Caitlyn, it’s beautiful to see how you have channeled your energy to being such a powerful force of good in the issue of women’s sports. You are grounded, authentic and I’m so proud of you for openly speaking the truth. My 2 favorite parts of this interview are “the trans conversation belongs between child,parents, counselor and God…NO one else! Amen to that! And.. “Life’s a shit sandwich and sometimes you gotta take a big bite.”😂 I think many have jumped on the trans bandwagon as an attention seeking mechanism and it was Illuminating to hear your thoughts and experiences regarding your lifelong battle with gender dysphoria to bring about awareness of this reality, while simultaneously embracing logic, truth and humor! 💖 I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you Caitlyn and Lance! Keep up the great work!👍😊

Common sense and based on science. A breath of fresh air. I've been wondering where the adults in the room had gone. Thanks for returning!

Thank you both. Great discussion.❤

Didn’t expect things to go this way. I love it. I have gained respect. Thank you.

@dorelkynaston1468

10 ай бұрын

I felt the same way. I learned so much during this interview about Bruce Jenner - Caitlyn. I grew some huge respect as well.

Thank you. This was truly informative and it has opened my eyes somewhat

Great interview and perspective! Fairness vs. Equity. It makes so much sense!

Very brave to have a mature discussion. Good job and done well.. Thanks

A fascinating conversation. What if gender affirming care as it is applied today was applied to then, Bruce Jenner? No Olympic gold medals, no 10 children, 22 grandchildren. There is a cost and lives are changed forever. When to transition is a delicate issue. Are children / adolescents really capable of weighing the cost / benefits? Learning who you are takes time and evolves continually throughout a lifetime. Learning to accept, love and embrace who you are along the journey is one of the most valuable life skills.

This interview has got me all choked up...thank you for this amazing, sensible, sensitive, eye opening point of view. LOVE YOU!!!!

Caitlan ain’t going to let Lance get a few sentences out at one time.

This is one of the important podcast Lance has done over his whole career. Trans men beating women in women sports is absurd. It's really gut wrenching to see the look on these women's faces when they lose like that. I have a suggestion for trans men who want to compete, ever hear of doping under the radar? Just keep the one ball and go !

@Zahava

11 ай бұрын

Transgender men, who have taken testosterone, are not allowed to compete in women’s sports with cisgender women.

@alaindenis509

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc Those two ideas are separate from each other in that sentence structure. It does give me another opportunity to say this 'Caitlyn Jenner is really funny in this interview'. I'm guessing its because he was a biological male before transitioning to a woman

@pookiepookie8669

11 ай бұрын

It's more complicated than just one ball. The structure of the muscle itself is completely different in men than women. (Male muscle has criss-cross bands giving men more strength and ability to build bigger muscle. Female muscle has straight bands giving women more flexibility to have babies.) Men have more muscle mass and a greater lung capacity. Even after transiting, all 3, muscle structure, muscle mass and lung capacity give men an advantage women do not have even if they transition. How many women that transition into men are competing and winning in mens sports? NONE! There is no advantage the other way. Therefore, it is not equal and should be banned!

I really like Caitlyn and have huge respect. My only criticism is that the conversation tends to revolve around her and it's hard to keep the convo on track. Great job Lance!

@Lisa-hj9xs

8 ай бұрын

Well. It was supposed to. He was interviewing her.

Absolutely wonderful and enjoyable interview. I’m so happy I saw it.

Major respect to Caitlyn for this. It is somewhat ridiculous that we have to have logic explained by a genetic male over this 'issue' that is brazenly obvious, but yet it is necessary and means so much. Thank you.

Great Interview Caitlyn…love your view, your honesty and really respect how you love your family..

Great conversation between two tremendous athletes who each have a great sense of fairness and compassion. I'm so impressed with the views AND the politics!

@spencersshenanigans

11 ай бұрын

I mean like one of them cheated so bad they can’t play sports professionally ever again and one of them killed a lady.

@KRKimbler

11 ай бұрын

@spencerwhite1916 what view on these issues do you consider fair and compassionate then? Do you actually dispute the athletic ability of either Caitlyn or Lance, drugs or no drugs?

@lesleyhughes3174

10 ай бұрын

​@@spencersshenanigans🤡

Loved this interview, in spite of the fact that Caitlin Jenner doesn't let anyone else get a word in edgewise.

This was such a great interview. Bruce Jenner was my hero when I was a young man. I was so disappointed when he transitioned to Caitlyn. Then several years ago, as a voting member in my church’s annual conference, I decided I needed to understand the LGBTQ+ issue and concentrated on transgenders. I read Caitlyn’s book but didn't understand being transgender. I gave her book to my sister who is a therapist and we had great discussions. Then I read Caitlyn’s book again and understood transgenders. I am a retired competitive swimmer and coached youth swimming teams for 13 years. The last year I coached there were 115 boys and girls on the team so I have a good feel for the sport. There are two kinds of people; those who divide everything into two groups, and those who don't. But, in reality you can't divide everything in two groups. For example, if that were the case, as far as color is concerned, there would only be black and white like the first photographs. But even then there were shades of gray. This is the same for people. What makes up a human being? Perhaps many years ago the YMCA displayed it best with it's tringle... Mind Body Spirit Therefore, there are three parts of a human being. A mind, a body, and a spirit. The body does not control the mind and the body does not control the spirit. So what is a woman? If you are speaking of the body we all know the answer. But the body is only one third of a human being. The mind is more powerful than the body as it controls the body and causes it to act. The spirit or soul is the life of the body and the mind. Jesus tells us when we go to heaven we neither marry or are given in marriage. So it appears that the soul is neither a woman or a man. Therefore, though it is rare, a body of one gender can have the mind of the opposite gender. And which is more powerful? The answer is the mind. The mind is what causes a body to transition. So what is a woman? Or what is a man?The answer is the mind of the human being. Is it male or is it female? However, there are no biological men who are women. They are transgender women. The same is true that there are no biological women who are men. They are transgender men. And, there is nothing wrong with being a transgender woman or man. If we look at the extreme sides that want to divide human beings into two groups then one side says there are no transgenders and the other side says transgender women are pure women and, neither side is correct. And as I said above, there is nothing wrong in being a transgender man or woman. In fact they have an advantage of being able to see the world from both the male and female perspective. The problem in women’s sports is we need to find a solution as everyone deserves to have the right to compete. Here are ideas to begin finding a solution: First in individual sports, transgender women should be allowed to complete in the women’s events but there should be an * by their name indicating that they are transgender and the woman who’s time is directly under the transgender woman should receive the same place award as the transgender woman. Second, unless the transgender woman has had bottom surgery she should not change to the women’s locker room. If the two above ideas were implemented it would be fair for everyone. By the way, I just flew using the brand new Kansas City International Airport and there is an All Gender Restroom. There are individual enclosed stalls and I felt very comfortable using the restroom. In conclusion, let's start finding solutions that are fair for everyone rather that taking sides and dividing everything into just two parts.

This was an amazing and very honest conversation about fairness, biology, & awareness. Bravo!

Absolutely loved this conversation. Obviously this is a big topic. Glad I could hear what feels like "common sense " in this area. Big fan of both of you. Publicly living life with big ups and downs not my dream but so glad to see you both overcome and keep on thriving g!

@michellevey9608

11 ай бұрын

I totally agree.

@exoticalBecky_Miami

10 ай бұрын

It's the smallest of topics sports are the least of our concern this is not a national issue water that's a national issue

@KimberlyEnglish-ps2tl

2 ай бұрын

​@exoticalBecky_Miami I agree with you. However, this video here is about sports. The other person never mentioned national, but a big topic for the sports world. If you are upset about water being a national crisis why aren't you watching videos on that and being part of the solution instead of bitching over here on this damn video?

No matter what ones feeling is about the whole transgender issue you have to give this trans person all the credit for saying how unfair it is for transwomen to compete with women in sport. It's not hatred it's common sense which doesn't seem so common anymore.

Really great interview. Didn't think this interview is anything I'd be interested in watching/listening to- but I ended up watching it all the way through. I think Kaitlyn has it right. Very balanced and pretty damn wise.

Great conversation. Love hearing from you both.

@cincydooley

11 ай бұрын

@@NonGrata-tx4gc You didn’t watch. But go on.

Great job Lance. I admit I was pretty ignorant to this whole topic and really learned a lot.

Thank you Lance for showing us how truly intelligent and well rounded you are and what a gift you have for interview. I'm an old media hack so take this well: you're a little rusty here and there, but you will be so smooth if you stay at this we'll think you're doping . True respect to you and Caitlyn. I've been a Jenner fan since '75 and it only grows every time she's with a good interviewer. One of the best was Norm MacDonald. Good luck you guys, it's been a more interesting world that you're in it. Thanks for that too.

First-time viewer. These special people speaking were heroes in my life, and they went through stuff. It was hard for us fans but I will never separate their accomplishments from their new lives. Congratulations on new accomplishments. I agree with almost all of this interview content. Not agreeing prompts important thoughts and acceptance - not tolerance. Now let's save this planet for everyone. #fuckmars

New found respect of Caitlyn came from this. Appreciate the channel and looking "Forward" to following this journey. Thanks Lance

@lorena5mash

11 ай бұрын

Recently watched a documentary about Caitlyn, the Olympics and her transition, which already left me positively surprised. She clearly loves to hear herself speak but she makes very good, sensible arguments. This is without a doubt a person who led a long, interesting life, who therefore has experience and is knowledgeable on the subject.

@tarnw3301

11 ай бұрын

He's still a man parodying a woman and degrading womanhood to a costume. He is part of the problem and his creepy behavior (stealing his underage daughters underwear) is something that shouldn't be brushed off.

@kensisti2761

11 ай бұрын

@tarnw3301 he/she is free so long he does not impose upon the state. But, I want to know how he/she knows a "Math" teacher was teaching gender idenity.

@pmarieb4083

10 ай бұрын

@@kensisti2761it is prevalent in schools today. They are not even trying to hide it. They start in kindergarten by telling kids there is no such thing as a boy or a girl and that you can be whatever you want to be. It’s gotten really bad in many places. Gender identity confusion is a goal of our government…it’s all about turning us all against each other in one way or another.

I have soo much more respect for Caitlyn now than ever. ❤❤

Caitlin, thank you for doing this interview. I learned something so important. Our judgments are usually so wrong about people. ❤️

Really liked this interview. Thanks you both for talking openly and sharing your thoughts.

I remember growing up . I was then in the high school and we all celebrated Bruce Jenner gold medal. He won the most important competition. He was a true superman.

46:53 - best moment: "You don't have one of these!?" - *Pulls out Olympic Gold Medal*

@HarveyPekarsGhost

11 ай бұрын

Lol definitely "it's a long story"

@royestondsouza4069

10 ай бұрын

A long story lasting 7 long years of drug use....😂😂😂😂😂

Great talk, Catlin ❤ and Lance. I enjoyed watching this. Thank you. God bless you both.

Loved this interview. I could barely stomach the episodes with the squishy pro trans people but loved the interviews with the gutsy honest guests.