I think you might have misinterpreted Magnus's comment. I think when he says the game was pretty terrible, he means his play was terrible for his own expectations. He played below his capabilities and you definitely played very well.

@owen429

4 ай бұрын

Have u watched the video? He pretty clearly thinks Magnus is talking abt rosen’s play

@shades4313

4 ай бұрын

Considering how much trash talk magnus has done to Rosen I’m pretty sure he meant Eric’s play

@MatthewHaydenRE

4 ай бұрын

I think you misinterpreted the comment, he's like baiting.​@@niranjanrajesh1058

@woahblow4127

4 ай бұрын

It's clickbait lol

@nicolapodgornik6644

4 ай бұрын

@@owen429of course he thinks Eric played terribly. Like, apart from maybe 10 other people in the world, everyone is terrible to Magnus.

I think Magnus was criticising himself . he was totally outclassed in the middlegame in a gambit line he himself provoked . Also , Eric can take heart that Magnus had fallen victim to the "Rosen trap" against Danya so he is aware . 😊

@mikecantreed

4 ай бұрын

Rosen trap is just new name for stalemate?

@mattland3924

4 ай бұрын

@@mikecantreed The stalemate anti-premove trick he talks about at 17:00 where the queen captures a piece expecting to be recaptured but the king is moved to the corned is called the Rosen trap.

@nicbentulan

4 ай бұрын

magnus sucks at middlegames. Larry Kaufman: 'Magnus doesn't generally play such great openings, he strives to get the game out of book as early as possible usually. I think the issue here is that his greatest strength is the endgame, but FRC games are much more likely to be decided in the middlegame as the players are on their own so early. That's probably why he doesn't shine as brightly in FRC as in Classical chess.'

@mikecantreed

4 ай бұрын

@@nicbentulan endgames aren’t won in a vacuum. He creates endgames hr can win in the middlegame by building up tiny advantages.

@sirprimal11

4 ай бұрын

@@mikecantreed Only somewhat true, as what really sets his endgame skill apart is his ability to win objectively equal endings.

I thought it was crazy, that his heart rate jumped from 60 to 142 on fifth move lol. Whoever suggested him wear that deserves a thanks!

@debrascott8775

4 ай бұрын

I find it reassuring that it's not just a noob like me with pounding heart during a game.

@m3talh3ad18

4 ай бұрын

@@debrascott8775 Yes, I agree. He is an IM playing against a SGM, so maybe thats why idk.

@rbarreira2

4 ай бұрын

@@m3talh3ad18 Also it's Magnus. The name is probably enough to make most opponents nervous.

@jasonphillips3817

4 ай бұрын

The Magnus Effect exemplified through a heart-rate monitor

@stademeister15

4 ай бұрын

and he sounds completely calm too

The line "Playing Rosen... might stalemate him" sounds to me like he holds you in high regard.

„I have no idea what to do“ Me every single time i play chess.

”I disagree”🥶🥶

6 moves in, his heart’s already going at 144 lol

@burt591

4 ай бұрын

That explains the "Magnus effect"

@jeffploetner

4 ай бұрын

Wow I didn’t know it was such a good workout!!

@a_wild_Kirillian

4 ай бұрын

​@burt591 , that's just the brain trying to supply as much oxygen and nutrients as possible for a challenging game.

@zBrain0

4 ай бұрын

He was also holding his breath involuntarily. Breathe Eric LOL. It's pretty understandable, if I ever got to play Magnus there would be no stress because I know I would just have no chance I might as well just move randomly.

Yeah, he was referring to his play. I can't imagine how nervous you had to be playing him. Anytime I compete in anything and I'm ahead and upsetting a better opponent, it's hard not to let the pressure take over. Well done on this one!

“Never resign when you have a knight”

@amaryllis0

24 күн бұрын

You know that doesn't logically follow right A -> B does not imply !A -> !B Like this is 101 shit come on

@glum_hippo

23 күн бұрын

@@amaryllis0 I am duly chastened

“A terrible game… but not for me!”

@Benjamin-1776-

4 ай бұрын

Totally should rename the video to this lol nice comment

@boxofcans461

4 ай бұрын

ok, but wheres the ambulance?🤔

I think he was saying it was pretty terrible because you put up such a good fight and he had to think to win

Magnus just meant terrible as in how he played. You did great...the time situation was your biggest downfall though. You'll get him next time gg

I was expecting you to countergambit, but still respect that you fought until the end, even tried to set up your classic stalemate trap ❤

Could hear Eric's shaky breath on the mic

@phlosen7854

4 ай бұрын

His Heartbeat went from 60 to over 120 in a Minute. Cant blame him

hard to stalemate someone that still has 1 minute on the clock.

@victor6010

4 ай бұрын

and is the best in the world 😂😂❤❤

@FirestarterXX

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was weak.

I love watching Eric's games and the way he explains things, objectively and always with calm and nice attitude. He's respectful but fearless. So, when the deserved GM title?

@tmpwow4282

4 ай бұрын

Deserved how? GM title is based on his performance not his personality

@claudiog7692

4 ай бұрын

@@tmpwow4282there is this weird trend where people think you can achieve a chess title by just having a good personality or by really wanting it

I think he meant his own performance. We wasnt happy about it since you had the better position up until a certain point.

1:35 Tge heart rate jump is crazy. Can’t believe it was around 65 when the game started 😂❤

I know it's not quite the same, but anytime I play someone who has a significantly higher rating than me I just get scared to play the most natural moves, even if I'm still in the opening, because I'm so scared of tactics that I might not be seeing.

The fact that magnus is aware of the rosen stalemate is so cool

I would love to see you Eric commentating the pro chess. I watch them and think to myself, Eric should be here right now.

Eric Rosen, 76 years old: "kids, who want to listen to an horrot story... it was pretty terrible! it happened 46 years ago, and I was playing with a GOAT ... " Kids: Me Me Me

I interpreted it as him criticizing his own play and that you had him cornered. Honestly sounded like he tipped his hat to Eric

I find that whenever Magnus makes such comments, in the blunt criticism way, he's usually referring to himself. Typically when he refers to dubious moves his opponent makes, he phrases it as not understanding the purpose behind that move or he refutes the move by say, capturing a hung piece. He's not much for ridiculing his opponent's positions, but he's super blunt about his own mistakes. When he plays badly enough that someone many hundreds of ELO points below him is possibly better or clearly better, he says how badly he played. I find that he's pretty consistent about that, because he has a pretty good handle on when he's made a blunder or when his position is clearly losing or worse, but if his opponent is playing in a way he doesn't agree with or understand, he almost always leaves open the possibility he's missed something particularly in online chess where he's commenting and not spending a lot of time deeply analyzing the moves. I've seen quite a lot of Magnus playing people online, and especially in the games where he blunders or loses outright, his reactions are almost universally identical. Often he is playing an opening he knows is inferior so he knows his position is bad, so he can save lost or worse positions, points out the opening itself is bad. Sometimes he will make a move just to not waste too much time and later decide the move has definitely made his position worse, and the few times his opponent makes some brilliant attack or sack that he didn't see, he usually says something akin to wow, immediately tries to assess if he's being mated and if he can stop it, or if it is time to resign. He's usually not very prideful about his position, he suffers from a remarkable lack of arrogance for someone who could beat literally anyone. It's a very Norwegian perspective. I say this as an American living in Norway for 8 years now, this attitude is super common. Norwegian itself as a language is very blunt, for example, when you pay for gas, the machine tells you something that directly translates to "friendliest insert your card now." They throw in the word "friendliest" because otherwise, it sounds like the machine is being bluntly rude and ordering you around. The culture itself is very not egotistical. The belief is mainly that we're all in this together, we're a team, individuals who perform above expectations are helping the team, or making the country better, as opposed to personal glory. Because Norwegian is so blunt, and English is his second language, and he's not very arrogant or egocentric, he will usually dispassionately rip apart his own position using very blunt language, but watch how he phrases his criticism of his opponent's position. He tends to use that non-judgment language like I don't understand this move, or he thinks it is a mistake, especially because he is aware he could be missing something in the position that gives his opponent an edge. I think part of why he is so strong is that his skill level and experience never gives him a swelled head, he's constantly in a state of wondering how his position is bad or what mistakes he has made or leaves open the possibility he missed a brilliancy from his opponent. When the position is clearly bad for his opponent he can occasionally say something like that, but he's usually really confident his opponent is in a dead lost position at that point. Because his personality, culture he grew up with, and native language makes him inclined to harshly criticize himself and leave it open that his opponent is somehow better even against his best judgment, and because that perspective is usually wildly different from the norm, I find that Magnus' criticism of his own position often gets mistaken for criticism of his opponent. I have a similar thing where I'm too afraid of making a social mistake and too afraid of hurting someone else's feelings in person that I often freeze up and don't talk to people and people mistake that as be being too full of myself to talk to them. Inward harsh criticism OFTEN gets mistaken for outward criticism. People just don't expect it, they expect people to be rude and arrogant.

@buuythbuuyth1412

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for that comment

@vova_ike

4 ай бұрын

Ai generated comment 😭

@buuythbuuyth1412

4 ай бұрын

@@vova_ike why?

@calvinblackmon_sax

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the analysis!

@HiFisch94

4 ай бұрын

"decent" 😂

Never resign when you have a knight “immediately loses his knight”

Rosen will play into ridiculous sidelines of the silliest openings known to man and seriously wonder aloud, “Hmmm….what’s the theory here?”

Is there a link to Brahs stream so I can see both POVs

Can someone tell me what time on the chessbrah vod magnus plays eric?

I'm not sure if he called the game terrible; I think he might have meant "it was a tough game" as in it went terribly for him.

A worthy game! Being in equal or winning positions against the greatest player of all time is no small feat!

"Never resign when you have a knight." Thanks for the belly laugh!

Eric was so excited, he could feel his breathing.. i love zen mode whenever there is pressure to perform!!😅

Thank your for your service u tried hard that game and we appreciate your ability to brute force power through these set backs

You are one of the first chess content creators I followed. It was during quarantine, I'd just picked up playing again (used to play competitively until the age of 8-9, mid 2010s) to manage boredom in a healthier and more creative way. I believe I followed agadmator, then you and Gotham for more active content from stronger players. No shade to Antonio though, I still love his videos and his style of reacting to top-level games. I come back to your channel the most out of the three though. Your content is still game-oriented, not clickbaity or as in your face as other top chess KZreadrs. It's mostly you and Danya nowadays. I want to thank you for staying consistent and staying true to the game. When I watch your videos now I get the feeling that you're the best of both worlds. Cheers

I don't know about Magnus, but I'm about half the player on my phone as I am on my desktop. That little screen just isn't optimal for board vision.

@brainmaxxing1

2 ай бұрын

It's probably less significant for magnus because he can see the board all in his head though

You BOTH didn’t en passant?!??

@boopertime4282

4 ай бұрын

sacre horsey!

@WhisperingWempe

3 ай бұрын

Weakens structure in this game.

What platform is this?

I think it's safe to say that a GOAT will have a different measurement of what "terrible" means. GG

@WhisperingWempe

3 ай бұрын

Well carlsen maybe the goat but rosen is no leaf of lettuce ;)

Eric it was a good Idea to make a post on KZread, otherwise I would have missed it! Thank you for your work :) Greetings from Poland!

paused @50sec. need a tea for this content!!

I just think he wished he played a bit better saying "terrible game". great game tho Eric !

Why you move Ke7 instead Kc7 on 39 move of first match? Then opponent cant turn pawn into the queen

magnus invokes his 'terrible' play quite often when accepting another 1st place trophy

...thinking that Magnus isn't aware that you are renowned for stalemate traps. ...and also proud that you are aware that Magnus knows that you are renowned for your stalemate traps.

3:12 ..."I'm in pain."

Definitely referring to his own performance. "Let grandpa Rosen tell you kids all about the time I got skewered by Magnus Carlsen as a young lad"

In Norwegian, "terrible" is slang for "great," just as we sometimes say "bad" in place of "good."

Nice game well played sir! Was interesting to see your heart rate. :) I love the wing gambit to take Sicilian players out of theory or comfort!

Very well played. I really enjoyed that game and your analysis

Always lessons. This is why yours is the best teaching channel.

How often do you make the speed run serious? Is there a set day of the week you post?

I love your heart rate monitor spiking by move 4. Shows so much respect.

Hi Eric! I'm an 1800 elo regular watcher - I learn a great deal from your content. I agree with some of the previous comments - it sounded to me that Magnus (just from his tones etc) is commenting about the game as a whole: saying the game is "trash" but in no way indicating that your performance was. If anything, he was commenting on his own sloppiness. You lasted for over 40 moves, right? And he identified you to his buddy by your name. Grats for being a figure of such stature! Enjoy your studies, and I hope for a "rematch" between you two, hopefully sometime soon.

I think Eric is right that he had chances. For a while Eric's attack was menacing, he really had Magnus on the defensive. Not sure why he traded his queen, though, when it was so powerfully placed. But for blundering the king/rook fork, Eric still may have pulled out a victory..

Cant believe eric almost held a slightly better endgame against Magnus!

Oh I’m playing Santa Clause 😂😂

Well, you have to agree that 34 ... Ng4 was "pretty terrible" (allowing Ba5+)

3:10 listen to Eric taking that breath lol, me at 1300 takes the same one when playing on board in public

Bad luck & quite a flucuating, but interesting game, I think. Pity about the time trouble. Just judging by what the eval bar was doing, it looked like, after white's Qc1, there could be a better move than Ng4.

Wing gambit, huh? I used to play that, as a teenager. ARound that time Kamran Shirazi was coming into the club every now and then - he was from Iran and this a different period in global diplomacy before the Shah of Iran came to NY for cancer treatment. Kamran had the reputation of being something of a madman tho very a strong IM. He sometimes would play 1. a4, 2. a5 3. Ra4 and 4. Rg4 or something equally wild. Likely Magnus would have bet him too, f it makes you feel any better.

Dam Eric really dropped the ball. He always looks at the sacs first show how much magnus is in his head

Where is the "Tale of the tape"?..

You're known lol "he might try stalemate"

"Never resign when you have a knight" - keeps playing with 1 pawn.

11:46 how is it not winning the knight?

the queen trade surprised me, I'm sure if you would have kept pushing a little longer he would have collapsed

[Heart rate hits 150bpm] Rosen: Call an ambulance!

Go Carlsen! oops, I meant Rosen!!!!

I think he thought *his* game was terrible (since he got into a worse position and it was a bit chaotic game)

It is obvious that when Magnus says it was "pretty terrible", he is only talking about how HE played... Given the fact that you were 1 tactic away from taking a significant advantage with Nxh2, i can see why he'd be hard on himself about it! Gg anyway!

It is going so fast that just trying to catch up what they do is a challenge to me !

I can't believe Magnus played in this right in the middle of the Chess Champions Tour.

@WhisperingWempe

3 ай бұрын

Lol - dude needs to unwind, see. And what better way than to play a relaxing game of chess?😅

I guess he'd prefer a win that doesn't involve being in a losing position, if not for the clock.

13:59 what about Rd2?

@RGP_Maths

4 ай бұрын

And when Magnus plays Qxd2 ... ?

@ailux.

4 ай бұрын

​@@RGP_Mathsow. You right I don't see the follow up

A rise in heart rate is necessary to meet the demands of physical exertion and/or an impending threat to one's life or physical well being. Funny how we have evolved to have this happen with a chess game.

in minute 16, couldnt you put the knight back at b4 and mantain the position??

@randomsleepyness

4 ай бұрын

I think that'd give away the rook

@Orkam616

4 ай бұрын

but u recapture with king iirc@@randomsleepyness

I think he meant he put himself in positions where he could have lost

6:16 Why not King to C7 here to stop the Queen? What am I missing?

Damn!!! Its Win +16/Draw +8/Lose +0 for Eric. First time ever I've seen this

wheres the volume?

@WhisperingWempe

3 ай бұрын

Pump it up

“What a crazy game. I felt like I had chances there”. You didn’t. 😂 Awesome opportunity though. The internet is pretty rad

you got rawdogged by the bossman

I can just imagine the endgoats reaction when you got the queens off: Really? Really brah?! Well mmmkay then!

I heard it as “can we see how you won?” “You can check the game, it was pretty terrible.” Referring to how he won as pretty terrible. Winning a losing position on time usually doesn’t feel great.

4:30 does rook sacrifice offer on d3 work? if he takes, you fork rook and q with that knight. ? I don't know. My brain can only see 2 moves out. hehe

Easy to armchair QB but Eric’s problem is he plays so scared against Magnus. If this was Zen Mode he’d have won because he wouldn’t throw away a minute at the start second-guessing. Tough loss. But moral victory, in a way.

@anvikloitongbam5980

4 ай бұрын

i dont think he still would have won if it was zen mode

@Roberto-nn6kb

4 ай бұрын

@@niranjanrajesh1058 i mean, stockfish himself gave Eric lot of advantage

Wow confirmed at the end- Eric is a grandfather.

Even if he was referring to your play, you really are the one human with the bravado to disagree with Carlsen! It truly is impressive. I will never have the suave you've got, but I strive for it daily.

If only this happened every titled Tuesday

Is your heart-rate monitor broken, I've never seen it past 85 before?

So close to actually beating Magnus!

Ah the 60 second NF6 strikes again.

@WhisperingWempe

3 ай бұрын

Is that starwars first or second trilogy

@WhisperingWempe

3 ай бұрын

Oh no that was the N strikes back😅

10:50 on move 18, I was sitting here thinking "why can't you just take the knight on d4?" But after looking, at the end of the line, Magnus can take the knight on b4, since the pawn is pinned to the rook on a8. Just thought that was interesting, in case someone else had the same thought I did.

@MrTedMcForehead

4 ай бұрын

that rook on a8 is defended by the other rook and the bishop so the pawn isnt pinned... i dont get why he couldnt take d4

@inteluhdgaming1524

4 ай бұрын

wow, I initially assumed it had to do with some back rank issues, but just noticed that the knight on f6 defends e8

@therealhero9226

4 ай бұрын

​@@MrTedMcForeheadafter Bxd4 Nxd4 Qxd4 white can trade queens which forces the rook to take whites queen after which white will play bxb4 and black can't take back because the rook on a8 is now undefended because of the trade of queens earlier

@therealhero9226

4 ай бұрын

and the rook on a8 is undefended anyway because the bishop would be blocking the connection of both rooks

It was terrible in the sense of "so many blunders from both sides." Like as if it was between lower-rated players.

Terrible is a word Magnus uses pretty loosely. He often criticizes himself though.

Not terrible. Magnus might have felt he played terribly but we can appreciate Magnus's "terrible" play is still rarified air. Very exciting game IMO.

Great entertainment! Well played Eric.

Eric always down on the clock lol don't think I've ever seen him ahead on the clock in an end game

This is the best dude to watch if you want to fall in sleep.

Wow. Listening to Eric comment that he thought that his play against Magnus was "maybe a story to tell his grandchildren." Just a class player all around.