How To Take NAC
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NAC (N-acetylcysteine) is a versatile and supportive supplement with a low side effect profile. It is commonly taken orally, with the recommended dosage ranging from 500 to 2,500 milligrams per day. Most people tolerate doses of 1,000 to 1,500 milligrams well. Taking NAC on an empty stomach is ideal for better absorption, but it can cause stomach upset and nausea for some individuals.
The safety profile of NAC is generally great, with no major known toxicity levels in humans. However, caution should be exercised when taking higher doses for extended periods, and monitoring is recommended.
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I’ve had HIV since 1996…Have tolerated Antiretroviral therapy very well, but was always fatigued… NAC has changed my life, DRASTICALLY, for the better and my energy levels are through the roof… This supplement is a GODSEND and changed my life after just starting it and taking it for 5 days.
@Spicydoc1
18 күн бұрын
You are truly blessed.
I've been taking NAC daily for years. I NEVER get hit with cold or flu, even when caring for loved ones who are under the weather. It is one of my go-to supplements.
@shantinaturechild3239
6 ай бұрын
What dosage are you taking , please? I know everyone is different!
@macrocoachkellimichelle
6 ай бұрын
Same ❤
@michelecapriotti4412
5 ай бұрын
I try to tell everyone! They don’t listen. Super sad. I’m never sick and they get sick every year. I take 1000 at least once a day with glycine. Sometimes I take twice a day if I think about it
@jamiel8551
5 ай бұрын
Which brands?
@colettejaques2559
5 ай бұрын
@@jamiel8551yes...very important...Osborne may ....sell this supplement
Two years ago, Dr Lee Merritt told us that NAC increases the glutathione in the blood which increases the white blood cells which get depleted by the spike protein and detoxes the liver. Good presentation.
@marktapley7571
5 ай бұрын
There is no scientific peer reviewed papers confirming the existence of the so called “spike protein.” There should be mountains of data on its effects and performance if it existed. There are none. Don’t believe everything the MSM tells you related to the “virus."
@danielagentile8049
4 ай бұрын
Did it increase your glutathione?
@philnmdg1340
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, I don't know because the doctor doesn't ask for it on the bloodwork, but I haven't been sick in two years. @@danielagentile8049
@litpapifx
3 ай бұрын
Hey! whats the video to that?
Back in 2020 I got the big C and it about took me out. One of the things though that I started taking was NAC. Between that and a few other things I started taking it pulled me through. I continue to take it and feel great. Never got the vax and don't intend to. I am in my 60s and have watched a lot of people around me continue to get C...and they had the vax.
@amygolds2435
4 ай бұрын
I’ve seen the same thing! I had one of my clients who happens to be a Doctor recommended NAC since I shared with him that I wasn’t getting the jab. I’ve been exposed to my vaccinated clients, whom continually get Covid and by the grace of God it hasn’t infected me.
@maxprescott9371
4 ай бұрын
@@amygolds2435Amen, Praise Jesus !
@etiennetaylor8048
4 ай бұрын
Yay!❤
@PauloGaetathe_original
4 ай бұрын
Is it difficult to understand that the Vax doesn't prevent anyone from getting the big C, but it is a much less severe infection.
@slv6470
3 ай бұрын
I have vaxxes and only now got sick with C in December. My non vaxxed friends got it at least 3 times each. I never thought of NAC till now that im exhausted still after C.
I love NAC! It helps with environmental allergies, my chronic hives, viral illnesses and mental clarity and focus.
@SavedByJesus-pi3yu
2 ай бұрын
Quercetin is also amazing for allergies. Many stop allergy meds and use it
Dr Osborne, I’ve said this before: we love and appreciate what you’re doing. Blessings…
@amfohr
3 ай бұрын
I love and appreciate what you’re doing. Blessings…
I am one of those that can’t take it on empty stomach😢… great video to understand NAC..!
@emcarver8983
2 ай бұрын
Me too. I can't tolerate any supplement on an empty stomach.
NAC saved my life. After having pneumonia, I was having difficulty bouncing back. Could hardly walk, etc. Took NAC and immediately gained back my strength and vitality. I have continued taking it everyday. And I just started adding glycine because I heard GlyNAC was good.
@ileanabayas2351
3 ай бұрын
Hi which brand do you recommend?
@donnavincent2004
3 ай бұрын
@@ileanabayas2351 my favorite is Jarrows “N-A-C Sustain”. They’re time released tablets. And they don’t stink like most NAC.
@tanyawieczorek6603
3 ай бұрын
What ratios do you use of these?
@lonewolf5969
2 ай бұрын
If you need glycine just take it from collagen lol
@hanagloriaedelblum5693
2 ай бұрын
They work in synergy I think.
I have been taking NAC for 18 months …I’m an asthmatic since the age of 8 , have smoked most of my adult life ( hardly ever now ) Always had a lots of coughing and mucus…including in my sinuses….all that is gone . My breathing and asthma is practically non existent….this is my experience.. all this on 600mg per day
@tanyawieczorek6603
3 ай бұрын
Why would you smoke when you're already asthmatic??
@Jesussavesyouandme
2 ай бұрын
You gotta watch Barbara Oneil she’s straight gods 1 med dr. She says get ride of asthma stop wheat and milk cheese etc. but highly suggest watch her videos
@DebRoo11
29 күн бұрын
@@tanyawieczorek6603 no one starts smoking, drinking, eating processed foods, doing drugs, being sedentary etc. thinking it's a good health choice 😅
I just received my first order of GlyNac. I am 82, and hoping it’s not to little to late to be starting this product. I guess it can’t hurt. 😊
@WH2012
5 ай бұрын
Never too late! ;0)
@porridge57
5 ай бұрын
My Mom is 87. NAC is one of her regular supplements since she contracted covid. It really seems to help.
@artspark7697
4 ай бұрын
Not too late. IT works and it works fast. Also, helps prevent respiratory infections of all kinds. For real. I take on empty stomach but then eat like 10 mins after..
@deborah3912
4 ай бұрын
What brand are you taking, please.
@022141able
4 ай бұрын
@@deborah3912 donotage
You need to take it with Vitamin C to prevent Cysteine from degrading into cystine. Reference: Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's "More Life Extension" book from the 1980s.
@gentleoldmoviefan5680
2 ай бұрын
Thanks. I remember those 2 people :) , being interviewed on The Larry King Show a long time ago. Both admirable. Do you know about how much Vitamin C is recommended to take, each time a person takes some NAC?
The GlyNAC studies were using 6 grams each daily without any bad effects. When they stopped, the gains were lost but when they resumed, they gained back the strength and other positive benefits. I do not take that much due to costs but I have seen other researchers recommend higher doses such as 3-6 grams per day of glycine and NAC.
@kurtniznik8116
5 ай бұрын
Per the recent study in older human adults I have been on ~7.5g each of glycine and NAC for the last five months. I feel better, have much better cold resistance, no ill effects that I can discern so far.
@seaspray9144
2 ай бұрын
I think the dose was much higher than 6g - it was a certain amount per llb in body weight. It meant some of them were taking 13g of NAC daily.
@murphsviews
2 ай бұрын
If taking high doses in pill form is too costly you can always buy it in powder form. Much more economical. Tastes pretty vile though! 😄
@humble3417
2 ай бұрын
@@murphsviews buy the empty capsules !!
@lonewolf5969
2 ай бұрын
@@murphsviewsi heard it causes kidney stones when not taken with vitamin c
Thank you for the update and information.
Thank you for this information. It’s exactly what I needed to hear.
Thank you Doc. Excellent learning
Thank you for the instruction!
Your my go to guy!! Your info is always so good. I really have learned so much from you.
dr. Osborne, thanks for your great videos🫡
Thank you. I was not aware of the mold issue.
Dr. Osborne, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Answered many questions for me.
thanks for the details
GOD BLESS YOU DR AND YOUR FAMILY YOUR A LIFESAVER 🙏
Always great information
I enjoyed learning about NAC. Thank you.😊
Thank you so much for really clarifying this! I have just started adding NAC to my regimen! You are my go to for a definitive information on integrative health!
Thanks a lot Dr P Osborne
The problem with nebulizing NAC is that it can cause bronchospasm. It is given with a bronchodilator…Albuterol…in a hospital setting.
Always so informative and adds to my knowledge base for my health and massage clientele…
I take NAC together with Glycin, Glutamine and Magnesium, so that my body can synthesis Glutathion more easily.
@dysgenicsubhuman3178
5 ай бұрын
selenium
@KP-wi6in
5 ай бұрын
and molybednum @@dysgenicsubhuman3178
@tanyawieczorek6603
3 ай бұрын
@@dysgenicsubhuman3178 what about it?
Awesome. Thanks brother!
Awesome as Always
This is such an excellent presentation. I know that I am in safe hands. Thank you.
I’m farting up a storm since I started taking NAC 2 weeks ago!. Whaaaat! 😮😂
@user-nt9rj8sz4m
2 күн бұрын
You have SIBO most probably, and it is sulphur, which makes you fart
Great video! I appreciate that you mentioned considerations for taking if living in an environment with mold.
God bless you thank you so much for the work that you do
I have been taking 2400 NAC per day for two years now, split between 1200 in the morning and another 1200 in the evening. Both on an empty stomach. I combine this with another 3000 glycine twice per day at the same time. It’s been a game changer.
@marge3477
4 ай бұрын
How has it been a game changer?
@mik19mazz
4 ай бұрын
I'm too wondering How it was a game changer??
@eddaborjas9408
4 ай бұрын
Why for so long? It is not for a trestment
@danielagentile8049
4 ай бұрын
What did it help you with specifically??
@jeanpaultongeren125
3 ай бұрын
you use glycine too? do you have schizophrenia
Thanks, mine should be here anytime. I love to learn about nutrition.
Thankyou, I was wondering ‘how to?’❤
Please elaborate on NAC and mold.
good info
I take 600 mg of nac 2 a day on an empty stomac I also add glycine 1000 mg but only add the glycine once and that's in the morning. Thank you Doctor oh you are so awesome. I tell everyone about you. Happy Thanksgiving sir
@AlexSmith-fs6ro
2 ай бұрын
Do you find that if you glycine with NAC it makes your skin itchy, or even brings low effect cold sores?
@njkauto2394
Ай бұрын
@AlexSmith-fs6ro I've only been taking Glynac for 6 days, and I had intense itching from the get-go . I lowered the dose and am going to increase it incrementally. The itching is still there but the intensity is lessening even though I've been upping the doses. I hope it goes away completely because I noticed a great improvement in my motivation and energy levels..
@njkauto2394
Ай бұрын
@@AlexSmith-fs6ro Oh, no cold sores with the glynac. I used to get cold sores a lot many years ago but I started taking a zinc supplement daily and I haven't had them ever since.
Thank You!
Spent 3 months in a coma 1999/2000 from kidney failure and pneumonia as I flooded my lungs with fluid. Caught legionaries at one of the hospitals I was in pre or during the coma (I'm not certain when exactly as it was all hazey then). Have been left with pulmonary fibrosis and now mild emphysema which has hindered my breathing capacity ever since the coma. My kidney transplant will be 22 years old this 27th of December. I discovered NAC a couple years ago and took it for a period of time, possibly 6 months or so, It really did help me breath better. I have recently only got back to taking NAC as the humidity rises here in Queensland Australia. I find the hotter humid air a lot harder to breath. The NAC does help, though I've found it isn't as effective as last time i used it.
@lonewolf5969
2 ай бұрын
I believe not every nac is of the same quality for sure
@feral4mr2
2 ай бұрын
@@lonewolf5969 I am using the exact same one from the same source. But yes, quality control....
@lonewolf5969
2 ай бұрын
@@feral4mr2 i remember i read something that NAC can cause kidney stones if not combined with vitamin C im not sure if its true
Good stuff thanks.
New sub just started taking Nac a few weeks ago. Ty
Thank you Dr Osborne I was wondering how I should take it. God bless and have a wonderful Thanksgiving
Thank you so much!
If you're interested in taking intravenous NAC, talk to your doctor, and he will laugh at you and dismiss you out of hand. It's not in his drug prescription handbook and there is no money in it for his visiting (and backhanding) drug rep.
THANK YOU, DR. PETER OSBORNE, FOR ALL OF YOUR BRILLIANT, AND HELPFUL VIDEOS!!
It's on the shelves in Canada
I have been on the medical merry, go round with rheumatoid arthritis, and the nightmare. That is the rheumatologist. I am watching your Podcasts going over my lab numbers and just seeing where assistance and help is available. And I truly wish I could get an appointment with you and have a conversation. My experience with my RA this last year was an absolute utter nightmare, and it has taken all of my hobbies and physical joys. It had put me in a place that there was absolutely no reason to stay living. I’m so grateful that you opted to share your knowledge with the rest of us. Thank you.
@marlenecoltran6977
3 ай бұрын
Cut out russet potatoes, flour, tomatoes, eggplant, peppers, and should have major improvements
@telmeeeh
2 ай бұрын
Try to check if dental infection+heavy metal (like mercury)+/-mold presence in the body contributes to your malady.
@user-bb3nw3nt5j
2 ай бұрын
@@telmeeeh Yes, I had gotten thrush twice in the past few years and with my RA hi nothing would heal in my mouth. I am full dentures now and I’m hoping that that will actually be helpful. Not sure about the heavy metals. Thank you.
@user-bb3nw3nt5j
2 ай бұрын
@@marlenecoltran6977 Yes, those food choices have been pretty much eliminated. I’m hoping it will help.
@joycemclean9661
2 ай бұрын
I’ve had RA for 23 years. What saved me was the keto diet. Check out Dr. Berg on KZread and follow him. I dropped a lot of weight and haven’t had a flare up in 4 years. I also take injections of Brenzys and methotrexate one a week. Brenzys was a game changer as well! The only other thing I take is folic acid.
I took two capsules and put the power in a warm glass of water with a few drops of lemon juice. Very nice did not feel bad at all on an empty stomach.
@leelunk8235
4 ай бұрын
PUT THE POWER IN WHAT LOL
People need to understand that they can take all the supplements they want but if they do not have a good diet, proper exercise and sleep it will make very little difference. most poodle need still get the basics down.
@tanyawieczorek6603
3 ай бұрын
Just poodles? Not other dog breeds? 😅
@marktapley7571
3 ай бұрын
@@tanyawieczorek6603 Poodles are probably among the worst and people should keep pit bulls and mastiff instead.
@allison471
2 ай бұрын
Also minerals are crucial for vitamins to work as well as a healthy gut for proper absorption
Thank you, very interesting! One thing I have noted is NAC capsules can get pretty stinky, so I was too turned off to take them, but I now keep them in the fridge so that problem has disappeared!
@rvnmedic1968
5 ай бұрын
It seems the sulfur smell is in various NAC supplements. The fridge is a good idea. I wanted my wife to take NAC but she is allergic to sulfur (even very small amounts). Cheers, Bob
@sherrimarshall-xw6en
5 ай бұрын
I have an allergy to sulfur drugs I take NAC with no problem
@tinabren
Ай бұрын
Does it have sulfureuse in it ?
@kathyjames9250
Ай бұрын
@@tinabren Hi, I don’t know, but I plan to do more study. I have some digestion/liver/etc. issues to heal so I don’t want to overdo the “detox.”
Thank you.
Does taking it with food cancel out the biofilm breaking benefits ?🙏
How timely this was, I was just rethinking if I wanted to order more NAC. So ordering now!
@colettejaques2559
5 ай бұрын
Where are you buying it
@Dastardly_X
2 ай бұрын
there’s some good bulk deals on eBay
What else is needed for NAC absorption? For example, are selenium, zinc or silybin necessary for proper NAC health benefits?
In the human studies about 9 grams were used, but buy it separately in powder form and it is really cheaper. If one is over 70 it is better to take it up to 4 grams a day
L-Cysteine is twice as effective as NAC and half the price (no patents involved). And indeed, take some glycine with that (6 grams or even more).
The mold connection was new information for me, thanks a lot
Thanks for the advice. I’ve heard that ppl with vax injuries are feeling benefits of NAC. I’m going to order some.
Thank you Dr. Osborne. I hope it helps with breast cancer while I'm searching for more treatments. I just picked up the Spring Valley 1000 mg one.
@husomujic4724
2 ай бұрын
Look for matcha tea ive heard that it can kill breast cancer cells. Hope you will be ok❤
supplementing with selenium is beneficial for glutathione production when taking NAC
@SuperDesignChick
5 ай бұрын
Brazil nuts baby! 👍
@Dastardly_X
2 ай бұрын
yaaa , 🥜
@donnar9864
2 ай бұрын
@@SuperDesignChickYes.. I take it 2 Brazil nuts a day..
N-Acetyl Cysteine Ethyl Ester is Better and more bioavailaibe 100MG is the equivalent of 1400mg of NAC you can buy it with Glycine both together helps your body make glutathione which helps in anti ageing.Taking glutathione on its own is not very well absorbed and remember Glutathione levels fall as you get older
Thank you
What about dosing NAC in combination with glycine?
I just had covid and was in a real bad way with it, and then I went hardcore with the NAC 4x / day and some other supplements, and it was like magic. The lung inflammation cleared up in a day, and even my sinuses were amazingly clear.
I always take NAC as a powder together with glycine, magnesium and vitamin C. all together in pure clean water. This combination is awesome and I've never had any stomach problems from it.
And thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Really appreciate the information! Doctor, do you have an opinion on combining with Glycine to create GlyNac? I’ve seen that many other folks on KZread report on research hat discusses the Glycine/NAC combination.
@tanyawieczorek6603
3 ай бұрын
Did you ever find out the answer to this?
Can NAC be taken with other medications/supplements? I read about its venefits a col of years ago but was told (by a Dr) it will reverse the benefits of any medications (severe pain) i take... ATM covid is going through the work place, staff are sick for weeks.
thank you
Interestingly it has been used since the 1970’s via nebulizer. It was ordered multiple times per day with a bronchodilator at either a 10% or 20% solution 3 or 4 ccs at a time. Some of the patients swore by the stuff.
@robynbonni8557
6 ай бұрын
Yes I'm a respiratory therapist and I used to have to administers to patients with thick secretions. Had I known how amazing this drug was I would have taking it years ago.
@chrispompano
5 ай бұрын
It is by Rx, called Mucomyst, but the brand name was discontinued & should still be available as generic. One of the absolute best ways to use it with an IPV Therapy machine called True IPV & is administered by a home health agency, but some people figure out a way around the medical system to own these machines....
@chrispompano
5 ай бұрын
Mucomyst & used with IPV Therapy like True IPV by Percussioaire.....
@raulmexb
5 ай бұрын
@@robynbonni8557 It's not a drug! It's Amino Acid
@jeffgarmon1
5 ай бұрын
I use NAC periodically in a nebulizer, and here is what I do. I put about a teaspoon of saline in the nebulizer cup and add approximately 1/2 ( one half) of the contents of a NAC capsule to the saline. This would be approximately 250-300 mg. of NAC. Mix this NAC/Saline solution real well. Then nebulize this for 5-10 minutes. You WILL cough for a little while which is very normal. You should find that the mucus secretions will thin out very nicely. Nebulize a few times a day if needed.@@chrispompano
What about cancer and nac
Moldy home makes a lot of sense thank you. Been herxing like crazy at 1000mg
I started taking NAC a decade ago for its chelating properties. So I never got COVID and never got the j a b. I have heard milk thistle with NAC is very good.
I had been using that for years due to chronic lung condition. When Covid hit, I could no longer get NAC . I had almost forgotten about it until I started seeing recent tubes on the subject of NACs benefits. Happy to say I ordered some a few days ago and it should be arriving soon. Thanks for the information.
@HtheKing
18 күн бұрын
How has it been for you?
@lynettegraham9344
18 күн бұрын
@@HtheKing it definitely keeps the mucus in control. I don’t have much at all clogging my bronchial tubes. And the little bit I get as much easier to expel.
@lynettegraham9344
18 күн бұрын
@@HtheKing One thing I have found is, I must take it with food or I get stomach pain that lasts for about 10 minutes. I didn’t have that problem in the past when I was taking it.
Hi Doc....Do you take it in 2 doses or all in one dose?
NAC is back!
Any warnings or special dosage recommendations for people with mthfr mutations and or thrombocytopenia from unknown cause?
Hi Dr. Osborne, thank you for this great information. I have been taking NAC 600mg with Quercetin-Bromelain Forte. Is that an okay combination together?
I didnt find it clear enough when there is a mold issue. If you can help with that, I will appreciate it. Thks
Somehow it makes me lightheaded.
I've been taking NAC for 3 months (all winter) I have not gotten a cold or a flu. First winter in a long time where I have not picked up even a sore throat.
@shellygreyerbiehl5903
2 ай бұрын
How much?
I get NAC powder (very hydroscopic--attracts water!), and take a small teaspoonful (2,500mg) daily.
Can you take berberine and NAC at the same time.
What is best time of day to take glynac?
Thank your presentation, Dr. Osborne. I am a neurologist and really interested in glutathione as a treatment for painful poly neuropathy. Could you please comment on the differences between glutathione in the intravenous form versus oral NAC? There are IV hydration centers popping up all over the place and they offer glutathione in some of their “Menu” options in various hydration bags. I’m an allopathic doctor and aware of allopathic limitations. I’m curious to know your thoughts. Cheers.
❤ thanks doc I cycle nac at 2-2 g pre sleep and my proxy for gsh is ggt blood lab results usually at 12 mldl
I buy the raw crystals and make up my own capsules. A lot of the time the issue is with the tablet binders and other crap. 1200 ( roughly ) a day. Fantastic stuff. This, shilajit, black seed oil and cordyceps mushroom extract every morning 🥰
@judithp6017
3 ай бұрын
I would be grateful to know where you purchase this in bulk
@panelvanhalen9717
3 ай бұрын
My protein website
Wonderful supplement. Have found powdered form in water more beneficial. Helps me sleep better as it calms the monkey mind…
Dr. Osbourne, how well does NAC do with Alzheimers or Dementia ?
Nac+Glycine+Selenium= Gluthatione❤ / Dosage 1500mg-2,500mg of nac plus 3,000mg Glycine This is the best combination for nac.
Doesn't NAC have some concerns over cancer promotion in some initial studies?
NAC is a life saver.... It's great a Detoxing LungsI I take NAC at night usually before bed, or in the morning around 4-5am and sleep till 7-8am...
65 years old, COPD, Post stroke symptoms for 6 years(Balance, left side weakness, lack of energy) all reversed. Started taking Glynac at 7grams each for 6 months not at %grams each.
@nancylittle7507
5 ай бұрын
So it helped your copd?
@harold18659
5 ай бұрын
Took about 2 months but cleared it up. Took it for about 10 months. Just started taking it again at 4 grams each. Healed my lungs and many other problems too@@nancylittle7507
@joanneroundhill1796
5 ай бұрын
F
@lauranilsen8988
2 ай бұрын
My 79yo mother saw Dr. Osborne and after food sensitivity testing and eliminating the offending foods it was GONE. She had it for 25-30 years. I had been telling her to try eliminating dairy and grains and she wouldn’t until he told her to. It was amazing to see her breathing normally.
Good info! Been taking NAC for years myself. I use Dr. Mercola's 500mg capsules but have only taken one capsule a day. I get nausea easily from supplements, so always take it after my meals. When would it be advisable to take more? I see you suggested between 1500-2500mg....but with all the supplementation I take, aside from eating a healthy diet, would you recommend my taking more than what I am currently taking? (i do drink a glass of white wine daily before my evening meal)
THIS is why I react poorly to NAC! Have been in one moldy place after another, you can’t write this stuff. Escape the mold only to end up in mold again. Mold will destroy your mood , mind and body. NEVER stay in a moldy place. If you’re genetically susceptible, you’ll potentially suffer for years with the mycotoxins recirculating in the bile without being excreted/ eliminated. I like NAC but I’m Wartung until I’m mold free again. Thank you.
It was hard to get a few years ago ,remember?