As someone that is 6' 3" and 400 lbs, I can 100% say the fact he smells isn't because he's fat. It's because he's lazy af.

@MrGrimjaw

Жыл бұрын

He can't clean himself

@jonisaiahthomas2488

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna say the same. I'm 6'5", 250lbs. I literally never smell bad my gf loves it.

@tenchraven

Жыл бұрын

@@MrGrimjaw That's crap. I know plenty of fat guys, none of them reek.

@MrGrimjaw

Жыл бұрын

@@tenchraven how big? It depends on ones size

Story 1: *Oscar smells like rotting food and garbage* OP: This isn't the reason we kicked him out Honestly, it should've been. If you're going to hangout with other people, especially in their home it should be a requirement to shower dude. I'm surprised everyone was able to focus on the game stuck with that kind of BO in the room. :\

@littlegiantj8761

Жыл бұрын

I'm especially the kind of a-hole to bar someone from my house for hygiene...Oscar wouldn't have even gotten in my door

@alicepetyablackburn1498

Жыл бұрын

Oscar was a smash tournament incarnate

@crispylizard4348

10 ай бұрын

​@@littlegiantj8761yeah there's a difference between forgot to put deodorant on and haven't had a chance to shower yet, and "I haven't showered in weeks and my car is full of rat corpses and 5 year old McDonald's containers."

First story OP here. Idid eventually get to run that Tal'dorei game I wanted at my local game store. Had a great table and we went all the way to level 17. And my players only managed to start one cult. I have two adorable cats now.

@MujisTavern

Жыл бұрын

Bruh you should've kicked him out for his foul odor that was a red flag bigger than the communist flag of china

@saintlytiger7504

Жыл бұрын

It's a good day when you're party only makes one cult also what was the cult to if you remember?

That was the kind of person who connected every negative character trait to his weight. If you're really fat, it can be very difficult to get that off and keep it off. However, you don't have to be a garbage human being because of that. Lots of people aren't going to judge you for being overweight. They are going to if smell terrible, live in trash, and are a sex pest. So don't

@destroyerinazuma96

Жыл бұрын

True. I know a large guy who stayed large even after he started hitting the gym daily. He'll never look like Zefron. But he's a sweet, clean, polite and smart individual.

@TheGamersfolly

Жыл бұрын

But don't you know that's FaTpHoBiC?!?!?! /s

@pippo17173

Жыл бұрын

If there is one thing I hate in society now is that people take the one trait and use it to bully everyone they like while not being better for it. What this story showed is basically what terminally ill online people do every day on the basis.

@tefnutofhoney2832

Жыл бұрын

This just reminds of that kingpin meme

Oscar was as rotten on inside as he was on the outside holy shit.

@superiorrule34

Жыл бұрын

If Oscar is who I think he is well I’m not surprised that he did that but luckily he got help with his Trauma as a kid.

@Sanodi21

Жыл бұрын

@@superiorrule34 Wait, you might actually know him IRL?

@superiorrule34

Жыл бұрын

@@Sanodi21 I think so I’m not sure what it sounds like him but let’s just say his childhood was hell.

@goncalocarneiro3043

Жыл бұрын

@@superiorrule34 I'd rather have Oscar be the person you know, because otherwise it implies there are... TWO of them.

Story 1: Huh, so this is the human version of Muk from Pokémon, and a grade A stalker to boot. I'd tell him to touch grass but I'm scared he'd make the entire area a barren wasteland then. Also I have no doubts he'd find some ammunition for his sour grape filled rant, no matter what OP would say. Story 2: OP: I need an encounter that's challenging but reasonably so Player: What if the captain had a shield that absorbs magic attacks OP: Great idea! *uses it* Player: Encounter too OP plz nerf OP: Hang on, this whole operation was your idea

That first story sounds like a total nightmare. Jesus. Hope OP & their player'a are okay

I think being overtly stinky is a perfectly valid reason to remove someone. I also think over perfumed would be a reason too.

@robrib2682

Жыл бұрын

When your eyes water when someone enters a room or sits down at the table, you may need to explain to them that a tabletop RPG as a social game and unless you're going to be playing online then other people have to be able to .... stand your presence

Story 1: Ew. I wanna go take a shower after hearing this. Like, I can't even fathom how one could disrespect other player's noses this much. A red flag that already would be a reason for a serious discussion or a kick. Also improperly handling the kitty is bad. Story 2: That must be insulting. I, as a DM, often go out of my way to make combat something more than "you roll dice at each other until someone dies". Big enemies often yeet PCs across the board, others decide to alter their tactics mid-fight, and even dumb oozes get to use terrain in interesting ways. And now I see the norm of "Wizard nukes everithing with his arsenal of fireballs" being shaken up - just to be ridiculed by the players? Come on, how is that interesting? Also those players who suggested it in the first place... Man, that's a sneak attack.

That shield issue sounds like a classic case of players thinking the game should cater to only them, and having a fit when something seems “hard”. As both a player and a DM I hate the idea of “balanced encounters” that’s just not what it’s like, you can’t win every battle, and what good is a victory if you don’t have to work for it.

@DunantheDefender

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@shadenox8164

Жыл бұрын

I mean the idea of a balanced encounter just means possible to win. Not, players must win.

@richardduska1558

Жыл бұрын

And I think OP did not tell the full story. Things go from 1 to 100 in an instance and everybody beside him is the bad guy.

@ebenezeranton3568

Жыл бұрын

@@richardduska1558 oh probably not. But I’m just hear to be another random opinion on the internet. Plus I’ve seen players (including DMs) be unreasonable for all sorts of reasons. So I wouldn’t honestly be that surprised.

@ebenezeranton3568

Жыл бұрын

@@shadenox8164 I mean we can talk semantics about it all day, I’m speaking in what I perceive a balanced encounter to mean to the players of the story. And as far as what I mean personally when I say I don’t like balanced encounters, it’s that one’s that are planned specifically for the party to win or lose or rather, maybe not designed specifically that way but perceived that way. If the DM throws goblins at the party, there’s often the concept that the players should defeat them. When I was playing and running 5e, that was something I’ve noticed a lot of, players who saw monsters as something to just kill and loot rather than an inherent ecosystem in the world, if that works for you, that’s fine. Just not my cup of tea.

Would I be pissed at the surprise of a shield that absorbed an attack? Heck yeah. Would I trust DM that physical attacks would work? "READY THE CANNONS!"

@Sanodi21

Жыл бұрын

Also, consider this: cool loot

@srlong1123

Жыл бұрын

@@Sanodi21absolutely this. If I’m a player in this game I’m looking forward to getting my hands on the spell absorbing shield once I see what it does

@shadenox8164

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be pissed at all. Just gotta adjust.

@informitas0117

Жыл бұрын

"You think this shield is OP? IMAGINE how awesome it will be in your hands after this battle!" Then you make the shield explode as he goes down.

@Sanodi21

Жыл бұрын

@@informitas0117 Well, that was another thing I was thinking about. Depending on when the fight happens, the shield takes damage and can only hold X number of charges instead of the full 10, but leave it out in the open that the players might be able to find someone to fix it later. Or the fact it can only hold X number of charges, make it that passing a certain cap causes it to explode and damage or even instantly kill the guy if it goes far enough, but lose the shield is further damaged or gone. Which also makes it a risk for players depending on level and area.

Story 1 was a rare encounter with a reddit moderator outside its lair

Oscar's hygiene was the least of his problems, geez.

Definitely needed Alice to help with that first story. Dude just checked every red flag on his way in and out the door. Second story is just players being bad. Contrary to what people think, DMs ain't the only ones that need to put in work. Players that just show up and complain about things not going how they like ain't good players.

Story 1: I honestly feel sorry for people like this. They’re so insecure about a vice they have that suddenly, everything becomes about it. Worst part is, 99% of the time there’s no issue, he’s just shooting himself in the foot. (not that this excuses his other actions, just this mindset is pretty common on a lot of people and it’s damaging). Story 2: It honestly feels like the trust between the players and DM had been broken well before the game. We don’t know how overpowered the shield was, but simply absorbing spells isn’t really that broken of an ability on its own assuming basic balancing (ex: if it needs a reaction to use, can be broken with dispel magic, etc). Based on how the story ended, I also wouldn’t be surprised if it had nothing to do with the shield in the first place.

Last story: give players what they want, basically goblins with daggers, not an ounce of risk, or reward

I've been DMing for many, many years now, and I definitely didn't know that Half-Orc resilience doesn't trigger if you'd die outright lol

If you mess with my cat, may God have mercy on your soul, for you will find none here. I started seeing red when he was describing that, anyone who will continue doing something that's making an animal cry is instantly out for me.

Good on OP in the first story for looking out for their players there. And what a disgusting creep. I'm overweight myself, so it's not that. The smell would probably have done it on my end, because I just don't know how to confront someone I don't know well about their hygiene. Or even anyone I'm not related to. I can tell my kids to take a shower because they smell bad, but a grown ass adult? Oh, and you DO NOT manhandle my pets.

So the guys that helped make the shield are dicks for no sticking up for the DM when they tried to balance it, But as a player, It just absorbs up too ten spell levels of magic and then gets to fire it back out as a blast, then absorb more? like WTF, that's an artifact level magic item. What's going to happen when a player grabs it.

@riptide3340

Жыл бұрын

tbh, it didn’t sound that bad. Of course there’s a lot we don’t know about the item (does it require a reaction to use, does the enemy have to be facing you, how much damage does it do, etc); however, assuming OP tried to balance it properly, it could be easily overcome with planning. heck, I’d argue being immune to physical damage as well wouldn’t be bad as long as it costs reactions/has some kind of cooldown, but that’s just me.

@robrib2682

Жыл бұрын

I'd say that's an only an artifact level magical item as long as the player doesn't get caught in a blast that they can't avoid Edit: but yeah any magical item that does that you need to put severe restrictions on it because it would be the equivalent of saying anything but a spell can't damage this thing, not magic not that it's immune to mundane things, only spells can hurt it Edit 2: okay now that I've actually heard the story I'd say by and large the bigger problem is that it sounds like someone wanted to have a power fantasy and in order to have a proper fight, the DM took that away for 1 encounter.... Yea no, the proper response here is to put your foot down and basically tell the wizard that everyone else should be able to have a boss battle

Thank you Alice for saving all our sanity!

I had a similar encounter on Twitter while drunk with a lot less sexual harassment but a bit more physical threats. I get very loose when I drink so I'm either your best friend or a bar fight waiting to happen. I also spout bullshit philosophies while drinking. So I was going on about the human body being contradictory by being both beautiful and grotesque using the words "Repulsive Beauty" or some shit. Sparkly words I'd never use as direct insults. And for some reason one of the people in the thread hyper focused on those two words and replies "call my actual 400 pound body Repulsive Beauty again and I'll break your knees". Now I'm many things while drunk, but I don't bother with insults. I'm more _direct_ when I'm pissed while sloshed. And this weirdo made the entire drunken rant about the human body in general all about their weight. I have no idea why these people feel the need to draw attention to their own bodies when no one else did first. It almost feels like projection of self image issues, but that is just a guess on simple people watching and study on my part.

@AmaryInkawult

Жыл бұрын

Granted I swapped words around because I did forget a few of them, I could check Twitter but I'm a bit of a lazy bitch. And don't look for this person, I do not need this ass going "SEE THEY SENT HARASSERS AT ME!" to justify a complex.

@DnDDoge

Жыл бұрын

That reminds me of when someone well known that is overweight ends up losing a bunch of it, and then you have people coming out and attacking them for losing said weight, like they betrayed them or something.

@Johnithinuioian

Жыл бұрын

@@DnDDoge "It was more fun when you were overweight!"

Imagine getting that broken up by anti-magic field, an 8th spell that while it DOES SUCK is totally in the fuckin wheelhouse of any powerful cleric or wizard (or others with a little elbow grease).

@ChazMcRich1

Жыл бұрын

The idea of losing my character is scary to me because I love him, but I also love the adrenaline of a fight where you almost die.

No rough up the kitty. Sweet Alice must be protected!!

wow oscar had so many red flags on him an army of bulls would be running him down constantly the moment he stepped out of that creeper dump car of his

Bad hygiene should be a no-no for in-person games even before the other stuff.

Do NOT mess with my cats! EVER. Alice is so beautiful, what a wonderful tabby. That guy in the first story, gross and horrid.

Yikes. Actual fatphobia is like... doctors blaming every single health issue on your size and not even bothering to run the tests for other problems that might be totally unrelated, even if there's a possibility that it could be a "catch it early or you're dead" problem like cancer. People assuming that just because someone's fat they *must* be actively choosing to eat too much (or mostly junk-food) and/or not get any exercise. Judging, mocking, or otherwise being shitty to someone purely based on their size. Not fatphobic at all to not want to be around someone who stinks, doesn't make any attempt to clean up after themselves (just because your name is Oscar doesn't mean you've got to live in a trash can), mistreats cats (especially after being specifically told what NOT to do), insists on pushing their creepy sexual stuff into everything (especially when a "no sexual stuff" rule has already been established), and has a history of being a stalker. All of that stuff would be just as bad if he weighed 150 pounds rather than 500.

I could practically hear the fog horn sound effects the moment oscar was introduced

2nd story: ahh don't you just love it when you get gaslighted

Alice deserves treats!

Gosh darn it. As a heavier guy I have chairs rated for like 350 pounds so I have some wiggle room on potential issues. If someone that heavy came over I'd already know that none of my chairs would be considered safe for them.

Story 1: What a scumbag. If anyone did that to my cats; insta boot. They do not like being rough played. Aww. Hello Alice. Story 2: What is this? Player vs DM mentality but from the players?

as someone who has hygeine issues due to crippling depression, I have _never_ had stank that bad. You have to actively _try_ to smell _that_ bad. That man either has some kind of undiagnosed hormone problem or he's living in squalor or he's _actively_ doing something that's making his smell worse. _Any_ kind of personal hygeine would reduce _any_ of those problems. Jesus.

I wouldn't normally react that way to the shield, no. At least, not before seeing its blast... and even then, being in a defensive position surrounded by an army and being unable to run or talk would be my primary problem... and honestly I'd have been trying nets or ropes before the first spell. Taking a prisoner was one of the few practical ways to end that siege prematurely.

I was gonna say I loved Glen in the second story for naming a construct Penny. I'm a huge RWBY fan myself, and Pennyis one of my favorite characters. But after hearing how he played dumb with the shield he helped make, I can safely say screw him. Just a little side note, RWBY is just pronounced "Ruby".

How incredibly unfit for life in a society some people are truly amazes me

The Smell should of got him not re invited after the first session if you didn't just tell him to piss off.

Alice being a little cutie.

I cringe every time I hear the phrase "safe space" but that Oscar guy one of the reasons why people think they need to be shielded from reality.

@user-vt4si1ef6r

8 ай бұрын

The term safe space usually would grind my gears in the worst way, however, there is a proper use of that term. A person who went on to run her own games is using it properly.

"Crap Players". I would not have retconned a damned thing. I've played this game far too long to put up with that stuff.

Omg Alice was soooo cute

I'm fat and smell immaculate, it's my single most consistently complimented aspect. There is no excuse.

@joewright1262

Жыл бұрын

Same. I even shave under my arms for good measure.

Nothing annoys the hell out of me more than when players either give up or throw a fit when their magic doesn't work for one reason or another. The monster or its lair has some sort of antimagic function? Waaah. The wizard shopkeep saw you casting a spell to get a better deal and counterspells it? Boohoo. You got arrested for doing dumb shit and the shackles you have on prevent spellcasters from escaping? By god you would think the world had ended. I understand for the spellcasters that's a huge portion of their kit, but that's why you round out your party with some melee guys too. Also learn how to survive without your magic. Get some bombs, some alchemical fire, some lockpicks, some poisons, or something as a backup if available so you're not out of options. Sure if your DM was making that happen all the time for extended periods, that's bad, but come on. You can go a couple minutes without your endless slew of magic problem solvers.

@shadenox8164

Жыл бұрын

Also like test it. Does it require a reaction? Because he only gets one of those so you could literally feint him with a firebolt and then quicken spell something heavier. You just have to try ideas.

Yeah - 1st story - The guy is lying to himself if he thinks that Oscar's size/smell is not the reason. Oscar could have been the best player alive but the world does not have to put up with Oscar's reek. The other stuff is just additional crap.

You caught Alice when she was receiving a system update. Don't judge her too harshly.

BTW, RWBY is pronounced Ruby. One of them is also named Ruby. The only saving grace is that the character didn't pick the team's name.

Man, I'm so glad to be Dutch.. That Oscar story? We here in the Netherlands are direct and honest: Sorry man, you stink something awful, you do not meet the hygienic levels I expect from my guests, you can't come in. UsAmericans are now way to scared to say anything, even when it is clear the behaviour or lifestyle of the other person is clearly unhealthy or anti-social (which I feel smelling like that is)

Did Doge come for horror stories stay for the kittens

Glad to see people still tend to draw the line at necrophilia.

I thought bacterian wasn't real

Another day older and deeper in debt

op accidentally invited a particularly bad ogre

Some of these stories are so farfetched they're hard to believe. This is definitely one of them

18:40 I feel like some context is missing in this story. "Everything was fine and dandy up until it wasn't".

I forget the guy's name, but that thumbnail man... Pretty sure that's the dude that never bathed in the original dragonball series... Ah, nostalgia...

@Ryan91487

11 ай бұрын

Bacterian

love this game footage. good doge!

Im a bigger chubby guy and I honestly don't understand why bigger people use the "oh you don't like fat people card" as a excuse for doing wrong!?!

The players from the second story are far worse than the first, imo. I mean don't get me wrong, the fat smelly guy is 7 different types of awful, but at least he wears it on his chin (or under hits armpits, I guess.) I dunno if it's because I've had so many games ruined by awful entitled players but I always feel uncomfortable when players throw a tantrum because they can't "win" at D&D.

wooooo doge!! 💖

Last story about the shield, what a bunch of pansy ballerina players those where. Should the DM chew their food too?

@shadenox8164

Жыл бұрын

Normally I don't like to judge other people's play styles but losing your shit because you can't spam fireball in one fight? Get creative. Can you catapult something at him since you've not actually applied the spell to him? What about mold earth since that's messing with the ground? Do you really have no support spells you could throw on your melee allies so they could tear through them? I remember one of my favourite things as a sorcerer was seeing the carnage I enabled by twinned spell casting haste on the barbarian and rogue.

Thank you kitties

What game is this in the video it looks like something I'd love to play

We need more psycho Alice x3

great gameplay love shadow of war

Sounds like crammed van man should be playing... what was it called... FATAL... assuming he could find any other players...

Can i pet the dnd doggo? its so floofy and cute

1st story... Thou shalt not creep. Thou shalt not reek. Those are two reasons for you to leave. But this guy found a new commandment for me to put on my list- thou shalt not fuck with my cat/dog. That this filth is part of why female players have created female only groups... There are people who need to leave the hobby. And the planet. 2nd... Nothing personal, he's got messed up table, but it sounds like it got munchkin and unbalanced which bad players only made worse.

I really like your channel, to the point I've been hoovering it and am almost out of videos to watch, but I only clicked this video to respectfully let you know that the thumbnail for this video is really fatphobic itself. When you run videos about people accusing others of homophobia for no reason, you don't use cruel caricatures of gay people for the thumbnails. The cloud burp and general presentation of the fat person are pretty mean. I'd suggest you change it to a person yelling like your other videos, but don't make the picture of the fat person gross on purpose. Thanks for listening!

Seventh

I have to haaaard disagree on the 2nd story doge. A magical shield that completely invalidates an entire character by just giving the middle finger to magic is not fun, creative, or balanced in any way. It goes out of its way to screw over certain players, and that's one of the deadly sins of GMing. This story reeks of bias. Players turning on OP after giving them the greenlight for no reason seems far less likely than OP not explaining the shield well enough to them. Not to mention, OP seemed to learn absolutely nothing about what he did wrong when the *entire table* didn't approve of it. OP is 100% being bias and painting a negative image of players that have the brains to see how absolutely stupid and unfun of an item that shield was. I would have left if the GM argued with me that that was in any way a good idea.

@shadenox8164

Жыл бұрын

Speaking as someone who plays casters, nah. Needing to rethink how I use my magic for one fight is not a reason to chuck a tantrum. Did they even try to learn the limitations of the thing? Foe example if it uses his reaction, you feint him with a firebolt and then quicken spell something big. Like god forbid casters have to think about what they're doing.

@yourface2464

Жыл бұрын

@@shadenox8164 it didn't use his reaction. There is no thinking. There are no limitations, else they would be listed. Its all spells are useless, period. Don't try to make assumptions and excuses for bad design.

@shadenox8164

Жыл бұрын

@@yourface2464 As opposed to making excuses for lazy players. If we're going by exactly what's written then the players never even tried to work around it they just screamed bullshit and cried after one spell got absorbed. And honestly even if it did work the way you assume, so what? Be more creative than fucking fireball. I garuntee you there's ways around that thing the DM didn't think of. Hell thinking of a sorcerer I played that shield wouldn't stop him twin spell hasting two allies and that's an obvious thing with only a moment of thought. Don't try to bullshit me and say there's no way around it just because you can't spam fireball. Like an ounce of creativity is all you need. Your magic still works doofus you just have to think about its target, the properties of the spell ect. Hell I'd argue mold earth would work around it because it's not aimed at him at all. What about catapult? Come on at least try to think instead of declaring it impossible God if something that limited is too much for you I can't imagine how you'd handle an antimagic zone which unlike that shield does fully block casting.

i mean, you can be fat and fatphobic, it's actually really common. just a side note.

The lesson here is don't let random people in your party.