For those who are unaware, this video has now become infamous as a footnote in the Senators Blumenthal/Markey statement about the NTHSA investigation. I'm curious whether this route can be duplicated to see what has been improved since 9.0. Will it still not avoid the bushes? Does it still misunderstand SF's bus/taxi lanes? Some things would be hard to duplicate like the scary part of aiming for a parked car on a left turn. It would be really great to see the tough videos "regression tested", noting that Chuck Cook seems to do this.

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Wow 😯

Super bizarre experience. It’s like driving a car that’s trying to kill you every few minutes.

The most scary FSD I've ever watched

@cafe88racer53

3 жыл бұрын

lol 10k to get an accident

@toshlahy

3 жыл бұрын

You should see my mom drive.

@Jeremy-mc2ut

3 жыл бұрын

Guess you haven't watched many.

@CyAn-S

3 жыл бұрын

he also says it is impressive. Which is an overstatement and a half. This shouldn't even be tested by users. period.

@LaBambaCL

3 жыл бұрын

3:10 "oh god" lol 3:23 "nothing wrong there" the camera only tesla was crashing the car thru dense bushes while centered in the lane. that is definitely wrong! what if the bushes were something else more damaging.

This is a must-watch video for Elon

@LionheartLivin

3 жыл бұрын

COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!;)

@jackdavids2723

3 жыл бұрын

Tweet it

@ededdneddy988

3 жыл бұрын

Elon might takeaway his beta access and give it to one of his fanboys

@whateverrevetahw6846

3 жыл бұрын

lol do you honestly believe he does not know it is trash without seeing this video? It's a scam.

@sunxiangfeng

3 жыл бұрын

@@whateverrevetahw6846 Elono did test it, and worked perfectly. Because he lives in a very very... quiet.... rural... area...hahaha

Your video demonstrates how crucial it is to stay vigilant while keeping your hands on the wheel at all times. This version of FSD is both amazing and terrifying.

@Ulrich_von_Jungingen

3 жыл бұрын

Considering Musk said this was easy years ago and sold cars on the robotaxi lie, I think owners should be pretty pissed.

@karlsharks5628

3 жыл бұрын

what's the point in this if you have to be hypervigilant to what the car might randomly do rather than be aware of your own actions?

@pjitiwong

3 жыл бұрын

@mogad Looks to me like it still lacks training data, like a lot of it.

@ItsBinhRepaired

3 жыл бұрын

It's basically like a teen learning to drive.

@pjitiwong

3 жыл бұрын

@@karlsharks5628 That's why it's beta. This much is to be expected, honestly.

Conclusion after seeing the video: FSD is still a work in progress...not serviceable for city driving. Less stressful to drive conventionally.

@kobalov1

3 жыл бұрын

oh wow fsd is in beta? Tell me more, I didn't know, it totally doesn't LITERALLY SAY THAT LITERALLY EVERYWHERE that this is a beta.

@bokoloaranyfa3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@kobalov1 "Tell me more" I tell you more. It is normal for a beta to have such issues. The problem is musk suggesting that it will be soon ready. Best it will take years from here to get it ready. But, there is a good chance, that their method will not scale.

@degueb

3 жыл бұрын

You haven't been in a car with my sister in law!!

@CyAn-S

3 жыл бұрын

@@bokoloaranyfa3824 exactly this. He tells us so many things, but he rarely delivers on time. FSD is another of these things. He removes all the buttons and the gauge cluster in the Model 3, and all the conventional inputs on the model S refresh because "we'll have self-driving ready soon". Bit too optimistic, aren't we?

@johnweiner

3 жыл бұрын

@@degueb true; but you haven’t been in a car with my wife!

It's almost crashed three times... "The best version of FSD Beta so far"

@jmgarcia4747

3 жыл бұрын

It says a lot about the state of FSD rn. It's still a long way to go

@tobiasgoebel3306

3 жыл бұрын

Both can be true?

@wuschelbeutel

3 жыл бұрын

I watched videos of previous fsd versions in sf and I think they were better/safer

@barry6996

2 жыл бұрын

You should check out the testing videos on "Car Autonomy" channel. They're pretty interesting.

Robotaxis - Coming 2020.... lol, this video was just insane to watch...the car tried to kill itself a couple of times and couldn't drive for ~30 minutes without disengaging a million times...nowhere near ready!

This one has the most intervention! Keep torturing it!

@jorgesmith2000

3 жыл бұрын

It’s because the driver is a wuss and complicated

@omnicurious2949

3 жыл бұрын

@@jorgesmith2000 I was suspecting the same

@Ulrich_von_Jungingen

3 жыл бұрын

@@jorgesmith2000 You do know there are thousands of other road users to consider, who don't need to be subjected to a poorly tested total trash product like this? Musk thinks its a great idea to use public roads as a testing ground without any signage or indications that these cars are potentially dangerous or about to possibly perform dangerous manoeuvres. You might need to grow up and get outside in the fresh air.

@marten250

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ulrich_von_Jungingen how does anyone learn to drive? Not in the real world? + what you see here is just the peak of the iceberg, they additionally use a simulator to further develop the system but since humans are unpredictable there needs to be some sort of exposure to all kinds of situations otherwise it won’t work..

@Ulrich_von_Jungingen

3 жыл бұрын

@@marten250 There are a number of ways that countries deal with learner drivers, such as, displaying Probationary plates, limiting horsepower of vehicles, limiting hours that cars can be driven, limiting the number of people that can be in the vehicle. Tesla, with significantly more resources than a learner driver and significantly higher obligations to the rest of the motoring public are not making these vehicles clearly visible as a beta test vehicle. Watching this video I am absolutely astounded at the reckless endangerment of the general public by this cowboy car company. People defending this s*** are also equally astounding.

You are so calm, other drivers would have panicked like they almost died. Well done

@mvrz6

3 жыл бұрын

Some of them have

@elck3

3 жыл бұрын

@@mvrz6 gali from hyperchange

He's really impressed with this new version, although at least 2 or 3 times he had to prevent it from hitting another car or maybe even a bridge abutment. Oh yeah, impressive! The scary part is that there are stupid people who think they don't even need to pay attention at all while using this system.

@gdo3510

3 жыл бұрын

@Swordfish3 just imagine trying to grab ahold of a yoke super quickly...that seems safe 🙄

To clarify before the comment, I am a Tesla fan. However ( I know its Beta) it doesn’t make sense that FSD doesn’t handle basic collision avoidance. Not planning the route correctly its one thing, trying to crash into cars is completely another. And I cant understand why while it handle much more complex situations like a champ - collision avoidance is horrible even at low speeds with perfect weather conditions.

@kevincrady2831

3 жыл бұрын

Car: "Collision _avoidance_ you say? Where is the glory in that? Let there be chaos and fire! TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!" :)

@MacGuyver85

3 жыл бұрын

Because it’s just not as simple as you think it is. If you compare this experience to some of the other testers it’s night and day. There’s clearly something going on here that will be looked at shortly and it’ll improve. That’s why you test in the real world!

@greenhousegrowmie720

3 жыл бұрын

@@MacGuyver85 so you risk other people's safety for a billionaires ego? Or for lazy people who don't want to drive? If people are so inept at driving they need a self driving vehicle they should take public transportation or hire a private driver but don't risk others lives by relying on this half a@# software.

@MacGuyver85

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenhousegrowmie720 The statistics are incredibly against your reasoning, but it’s clear that doesn’t matter as you’ve got some negative bias unrelated to safety anyway. Good luck and I recommend staying away from any human driven car.

@greenhousegrowmie720

3 жыл бұрын

@@MacGuyver85 how long have self driving vehicles been on the road? Guessing the data is not to reliable when it's just a slight blip on the radar compared to how long human drivers have been operating vehicles but yes trust those statistics by all means....

I like the balance between success and failure of the FSD system in this video. Not pie in the sky nor FUDly simply realistic

The Tesla is driving like a drunken human, several dangerous situations in just 30min of driving! Brave new world!

@stevevergenz7824

3 жыл бұрын

Certainly FSD Beta is driving like a student driver (still learning to drive). Not like a drunk driver though. And in some cases it caught things the human driver missed. At 2:40 in the video FSD Beta saw the (moving) debris in the road and tried to avoid it. The human driver and human passenger both completely missed that debris. Clearly Beta still has a way to go before prime time. I'm interested to see what improvements are made during the next few weeks after this release's bugs are addressed. I'm definitely seeing progress - and I'm sure addressing corner cases will take time - but the end result will be a 10x+ safer (than human) system.

@kratosdisciple4637

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevevergenz7824 I have driven for 36 years with no accidents. Strictly speaking, it is impossible for anything to be 10x safer than me. It is this kind of unsubstantiated claims that is causing impressionable people to believe in this nonsense.

@stevevergenz7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 No disrespect, but unless you have eyes in the back of your head and never ever take your eyes off the road (360 degrees around you simultaneously), you will never even come close to being as safe as a computer-driven car once they are trained. It just isn't possible for a human to do as good of a job. This beta version is nothing like what the finished version will look like, so you'll just have to be patient and see for yourself. That said, as it is humans already kill enough people on the highways. Your perfect driving record is not typical, and to make comments like that is just as bad and ignores a safer future for everyone using autonomous vehicles. Again, no disrespect intended, but you're not seeing things clearly or you don't understand how things can be. But you'll see...be patient.

@kratosdisciple4637

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevevergenz7824 Same thing I say to everyone else. If and when they perfect this software to a human standard, then they can say they have "Full Self Driving". To call it that now is simply a lie. By no means should this be released to anyone except for a qualified tester. To release this to the general public, in my opinion, would be criminally negligent.

@stevevergenz7824

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 I understand why you feel as you do now. If they had released it to the general public I'd feel the same way. But they haven't. This gentleman is one of ~93 non-employee people (I forget the exact number, but it's less than 100) who were trained to test this BETA software on public roads. It says BETA for a reason. The general public can buy FSD in advance, but it hasn't been released yet. I do understand how you feel, but I disagree. If you come back and watch these videos in a few weeks you'll see a dramatic improvement. This happens every time a new version is released: The software is buggy, test drivers point out the issues, the engineers fix the issues, and there's a big step up in safety again. You may not like that this is being tested on public roads, and you may not like that non-employees are helping to test the beta software, but to me it's imperative that we get this to work quickly because the longer we take the longer humans can kill people on the roads by the hundreds every day. I respect your opinion but I simply disagree. I've been diligently watching these videos from the beginning, and I am encouraged every time by the improvements they are making. This particular software update is buggier than usual due to the radar being removed, yet still it's performing the function admirably in most cases. Be well. I probably will not respond to you again only because this debate could go on and on, and I don't want to spend the time on it. I wish you well. (And be patient... It'll get much, much better.)

Seems like even when it screws up it's mapping the world correctly, the issues are all path planning. Hopefully they can iterate on that quickly 🙏

@chickenp7038

3 жыл бұрын

As I understand it the path is not learned. Seems like they should learn it

@robbiero368

3 жыл бұрын

@@chickenp7038 I'm sure they learn what lane to take at a junction when it splits from say 2 into 3, same as they learned cut-ins on highways, I think they must use that approach elsewhere too, trying to code it would be way too brittle. Could be they just need to keep collecting data and turning the handle.

@chickenp7038

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbiero368 yes so they learned to turn left I need to be in the left most lane. But then the handcoded code tried to change lanes but doesn’t do it fast enough as it always lane changes the same.

@amoneoudini1044

3 жыл бұрын

Path planning is by far the most complexe thing to do :-(

@ev2966

3 жыл бұрын

@@chickenp7038 But there's no NN for path planning.

This is by far the most horrific FSD9 video I've seen. It's like cameras are out or wired wrong. Scary.

@CYBERENA

3 жыл бұрын

def SF thing. SF maybe hardest one to get but eentually will now it feels like al other "simpler" cities are virtually mastered based on other videos

@barbarjinx3802

3 жыл бұрын

@@CYBERENA we need some nyc videos because frankly SF is a piece of cake compared to nyc.

@CYBERENA

3 жыл бұрын

@@barbarjinx3802 probably true ! lol

@op12studio

3 жыл бұрын

@@barbarjinx3802 don't drivers in New York City do more idling than driving? That's how it was before i escaped. That's why everyone walks everywhere. Once NYC gets its crime under control I might visit again.

@David-du5qg

3 жыл бұрын

nothing to do with the cameras. It's the image processing algorithms and the ml stuff. The cameras are very robust

It’’s clear Tesla is making good progress, but this is a LONG way from “full self driving.” Hesitation, unnecessary stops, and jerkiness are annoying, but interventions needed to prevent a crash are alarming. If you hadn’t been paying very careful attention, your car would be in a body shop now.

yah……. It’s not way near ready for a public beta. Beta 9 is a good college try though.

It's turning as if it's an 18-wheeler.

@tpad6

3 жыл бұрын

I turn like that in my car too. I need practice or a new technique.

I think you're being forgiving for things like the bush, the bush may be overgrown, but a self driving car should be able to see that and steer around it as a person would. And lots of unexpected steering, even if it's not exactly unsafe they might do better at making people feel like it's under control.

@yangdaily-andrewyangnewspo6434

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely not okay. I saw a lot more of that erratic steering in earlier FSD builds. Thought we were past it. Curious whether this car is running the same code as others. Not sure if we ever got a clear answer on whether they are tweaking different settings for different testers but I'd guess so.

@Worldsbestname

3 жыл бұрын

There could've been solid AF objects in the bush, too. Bam.

@phamnuwen9442

3 жыл бұрын

"not exactly unsafe"? The car would clearly collide with some obstacle or another road user in very short order if the driver isn't super alert and quickly intervenes every time it goes nuts.

@tipoomaster

3 жыл бұрын

@@phamnuwen9442 "Even if", it's part of a sentence. Even the instances where it wasn't unsafe it should do better to make the user feel like it was. There were also instances where it was unsafe.

@phamnuwen9442

3 жыл бұрын

@@tipoomaster I reject the idea that _making the user feel_ safe is the goal. Actual safety is the goal. This is not safe in any sense. If you jump out of an airplane without a parachute, you're not "safe" up until the second you impact the ground.

Reminds me of the movie “Christine” where a malicious car tries to kill people.

There’s a clue with so many of these videos: calling the CEO “Elon” as if he’s a friend. And can have his deficiencies overlooked. I’m a great fan of Musk: have been for well over a decade. But someone’s going to have to tell him that - as this video demonstrates - present cars are not anywhere near what he calls FSD.

This would be infuriating to drive next to or behind

We are so far away. I feel like we have come a long way but basically have been walking a path approaching a mountain and Elon likes to show how far we have walked and that we only have a short distance to go but neglects to mention its up a mountain.

All I can say is that San Fransisco has a lot of unique and weird roadways. I have never seen 'taxi-only' lanes, colour-coded lanes, etc. Good work finding the corner-cases.

@kratosdisciple4637

3 жыл бұрын

Then you obviously don't drive in major cities. That is a cake walk compared to Seattle.

we are still 10-15 years away from real FSD

Crazy how different all those videos seem to be. In some videos there are no issues at all and everything goes smoothly in others there are interventions every 20 seconds for kind of the same situations. Idk what to think of that.

@DerKatzeSonne

3 жыл бұрын

Totally depends on the environment. Also the first videos at night at only a little bit of traffic.

@grandelDR

3 жыл бұрын

Tesla fans like Kim Paquette have already admitted on camera that they hide failures to “not hurt the brand”

@senordockman1138

3 жыл бұрын

@@grandelDR seriously? If so, where is the credibility?

@grandelDR

3 жыл бұрын

@@senordockman1138 There is no credibility, Cuck Cook said it as well. These are fans who in most cases have invested their entire savings into Tesla stocks.

@DerKatzeSonne

3 жыл бұрын

@@grandelDR and that’s stupid. That’s why I don’t watch their videos.

Pretty rough but it will keep improving. The real world is so complicated unfortunately.

Thanks for the upload AI Addict!

I'm shitting myself just watching this video, can't imagine sitting in the driver seat.

I'd STRONGLY consider at least not having any passengers until this gets WAY better!!!;) Thank you, great vid!!!;)

wow great monitoring

Excellent job testing it!!!!!

"the lights are out, it seems to have treated it as a stop sign" According to the screen it saw the light as green and that's just fucked up.

Speaking as a beta tester myself - you two are now my fave LOL Thanks for being real

From what I have seen so far, version 9 software, tends no to pick up on some pretty obvious stationary objects on the side of the road. Columns (in Gali's video) and the brush (bushes) near the road in this video.

Thank you!

Yikes, it’s as if your car was angry and looking to take out other cars it didn’t like! 😂

Good Commentary, Thanks.

Thank you for being a beta tester! I have FSD on my Tesla’s, but do not want the beta for no reason! I will wait until it’s ready😊😊

Very insightful!

Torture it more. This is the most horrible fsd beta 9 out there. It clearly shows fsd is nowhere ready to being rolled out to a wider range of vehicles, especially in city driving. Thank you for this

@yangdaily-andrewyangnewspo6434

3 жыл бұрын

When it's ready to be expanded is a matter of opinion. It's never going to be entirely safe. Everyone draws the line differently.

@trainiax

3 жыл бұрын

@@yangdaily-andrewyangnewspo6434 For what it's worth, Tesla themselves draw the line at 1 intervention per 1 or 2 million miles in order to progress beyond Level 2 autonomy - in other words, it needs to get roughly a million times better. (How that translates to a wider release is a different question.)

@Sam-ss6yn

3 жыл бұрын

@@trainiax And all the statistics of autopilot is safer due to one crash every 7 million miles (not sure) compared to without autopilot is BS imo. Autopilot crash less than without one because if autopilot did something St*pid, the driver will disengage to avoid a crash.

@bokoloaranyfa3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@yangdaily-andrewyangnewspo6434 "It's never going to be entirely safe" Sure, but it is nowhere near the disengagement rate of others (waymo, cruise...).

Great video! Thanks

Wow this is the roughest FSD v9 video I’ve seen so far. Hopefully with regular updates Tesla can fix these issues and see some serious improvements. This video shows how far it has to go before it can safely navigate around your city.

@garychadwick1240

3 жыл бұрын

I think when they took the radar out the code was a total re-write. So in some ways it’s like several steps back but I think, using lessons learned in the past, this version will improve much faster than previous versions. I am surprised by the number of jerky steering inputs in this video compared to all of the others I’ve watched where it looked very smooth. I even began to suspect the driver was putting the inputs in to make it look bad. However, I came to the conclusion it’s re-learning from scratch again.

@ededdneddy988

3 жыл бұрын

Elon screwed himself by taking payments for this feature now he's under pressure to deliver. This is the type of project you have to take your time to complete. By calling it FSD he is subconsciously programming people to take it for what it isnt

@tpfrk8977

3 жыл бұрын

You can be sure that this is closer to how it would actually function in real world use. FSD is only in the hands of a very select number of approved testers who are painting an unrealistically optimistic view of how well it functions.

@ciabt007

3 жыл бұрын

@@tpfrk8977 I disagree. I think Tesla is much more transparent than any other autonomous driving companies. Although most of the Beta testers are excited to be testing the Beta, there are plenty of videos showing where it has had problems and most KZreadrs are quick to point them out. I’ve seen more rural drives with FSD Beta that are flawless, but the cities are definitely much more difficult (as they are for humans too) with many more mistakes. Ive watched other videos from autonomous driving companies, such as cruise, zoox that were released by the companies. The videos were impressive, but we’re speed up and showed them driving around a city in good weather. Who knows how many attempts they took before they used that footage. I think the KZread videos are giving us the most realistic view of any autonomous driving software.

@tpfrk8977

3 жыл бұрын

@@ciabt007 Tesla does does not make FSD available to third party testers.. If they would do so, that would meet my definition of transparency. There is no doubt that these individuals are not showing a complete view of how they perform in the real world.

Exciting! And scary! Not nearly ready for public release yet. Very much looking forward to it but I want to see glitch free driving for a good long time before it’s publicly released.

That was still very scary with a few very close calls

The jerky motion scared the f*** out of me! 😨 I have never seen FSD do that before. I am amazed how you kept testing it after. 😂

Definitely still work in progress

FSD is indeed pure vision. Dirty Tesla has a new Model Y and he's using FSD 9 as well. The entire system of FSD 9 is pure vision. There IS nothing specific on what's improved, it's an entirely new system. IT IS the improvement. Good route, it has a ton of tricky things for it. I love seeing these tough routes people are trying out.

Rough ride but can’t wait to see more coverage and how it improves with each new release!

Feels like you are having to be the driving instructor with the secondary controls. Reminds me of when my driving instructor slammed on the brakes and stopped me running over a cat that ran out suddenly (and I am forever grateful).

That AI panic shaking is very scary.

I'm a Tesla fan and optimistic that years from now this works but these videos in the hardest test scenarios are absolutely the best. Clearly not ready. It's hard to guess how fast progress could be. Some problems might be easy and others hard.

This video perfectly shows how far are we from full self driving. I hope 2023-2024 FSD will be ready.

Edge cases galore... you are training thé system 😎

I like how the stroller is converted in a motorbike at 08:40 :p

Amazing technology

Some scary moments and some nice progress. A lot of drivers wouldn't have your reaction time to stop the bad moves so this is harder than driving in many ways. Good job! Let's hope yours and all of the other great data improves FSD quite a bit for the next release. I hope FSD testers who are prone to panic or have slow reaction times will recuse themselves from testing...for now.

@gdo3510

3 жыл бұрын

He’s luck he had an actual steering wheel to grab a hold of quickly and not a yoke....Still makes no sense to me the reasoning behind a yoke.

@spacep0d

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdo3510 I understand it from a psych perspective and 'clearing the view' forward perspective. It's also cool. It may not be the most practical implement for dealing with FSD Beta but right now the yokes are only in the new Model S Plaid cars. Also, I think there's an opportunity here for the aftermarket to add some kind of add-on part to turn the yoke into a 'wheel'. Removable, of course.

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

I also really like the Yoke wheel from a track perspective. When I’m not in the Tesla I have a non street legal track car. Always wanted a wheel like that in it. If you’re using your Plaid as a track killer than it makes perfect sense to me. For Daily Driving and FSD it may cause less area to grab the wheel in a danger

Let's go Trevor & Corey , smokes

This was a really good video. Still lots of room for improvement. Great progress though.

drove through a bush, had a near head-on collision, and a few near side-swipeS of parked cars. overall i'd say i'm impressed. LMFAO!!!!

They need your data ahah, the more it fails the more it learns

I think one thing is for sure. This video all but confirms Tesla level 5 FSD and robotaxis is far, far away.

Thanks dude. Very informative. U have the hardest job from all the testers as u drive in San Fran. Big up for what you are doing for Tesla and its shareholders.

@thesolitaryadventurer

3 жыл бұрын

If driving in San Fran is hard (which it is for a US city) then how will it handle medieval European streets that aren't even close to standardised in the way US are around the grid system... For FSD to have a chance at working it needs to be 99.99% flawless in the US to even attempt to handle European driving scenarios. Let's face it. This is piss poor. Getting the basics wrong and dangerously so. I expect Tesla to be overtaken by VW and the real car manufacturers in the next 5 years. This is evidence that they're way too slow at making real progress at this. And let's not even mention that the car build and design is nowhere near Japanese or German levels.

@phamnuwen9442

3 жыл бұрын

Trying to educate Tesla shareholders about the real world seems virtually impossible. If they were capable of making rational judgements they would have bailed from this Ponzi scheme a long time ago.

@gdo3510

3 жыл бұрын

@@thesolitaryadventurer I expect Tesla to be overtaken by other EVs partly due to the fact that other EVs arn’t promising FSD and taking your money for something they know full well is not really a thing. Tesla has a lot of goodwill built up because they’ve never had any real competition, but if they keep treating their customers like fools, eventually they will lose them.

@neeljavia2965

3 жыл бұрын

@@thesolitaryadventurer People are not going to ditch Tesla because fsd is not ready. You are talking as if VW has better systems

@neeljavia2965

3 жыл бұрын

@@phamnuwen9442 Ponzi scheme? It's definitely over priced, but not at all a Ponzi scheme.

Better than the last one I watched, but still a lot of work to do from Tesla

It’s the situations like seen at the very end of the video that I’m most interested in: when traffic needs to be regulated by a person and their hand signs (here: using a red flag). Would have loved to see what the car would’ve done here

San Francisco is scary even for a human who is not used to driving there.

@omnicurious2949

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Very true.

That crazy left turn was insane!

@tpad6

3 жыл бұрын

Timestamp?

It behaves erratically when the lane markings are not clear or if it doesn't know where it needs to position the car in the road at given moment. The solution in those cases would be to just be steady and stay the course until it figures it out or hand over control to the driver This was rough. You should give feedback to Tesla.

Thanks for the video! SF is a great city to test in. Mixture of marked and unmarked roads, one way streets, etc. Pretty complicated driving environment for a computer to have to auto-drive in.

@kratosdisciple4637

3 жыл бұрын

Complicated driving environment? A sixteen year old could navigate that same route with ease. And they do so on a daily basis. Everyday.

@Neo300002

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 Updated my comment. Yes, for a human that has been through training and passed their driving test, pretty easy.

Lots of good data here for Tesla. Need more drives like these so beta system can be improved:)

Wheat you also see now and have to take in account is how bad road signs and markings have been applied. In my area we even have road markings that have right angles instead of smooth curves

Know that we only have 4-5 cam shot hits for our storage. General idea is to do shorter drives, get on wifi for it to load to the mothership - then go out again

This is more PTSD than FSD

best fsd channel!

Wow, I've seen maybe 10 v9 videos and this is by far the most eventful. I've not seen it make these wild swerves. Sometimes drifting into a pillar but not this fast. Strange. Good video tho :)

To me the danger is that this so called FSD lulls you into believing it is working fine and then dumps a turd in the punch bowl.

Dude! This looks dangerous. It will be a long long time before I use the FSD beta on my car(whenever I finally get beta).

Every time I see disengagement my heart drops, I am too invested in this

@j3506

3 жыл бұрын

Every time there is disengagement, Tesla gets more data of the exact issues that are remaining to be fixed.

@omnicurious2949

3 жыл бұрын

Every time I see disengagements, I want to shake the driver and yell at him 'let the machine do what it needs to, you premature disengager'

@phamnuwen9442

3 жыл бұрын

@@omnicurious2949 Yep, letting the crash unfold uninterrupted is the way to FSD perfection...

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

@@omnicurious2949 disengagement’s are good, Tesla learns. More people should intervene when something isn’t right so it can learn even quicker.

This is dangerous. Releasing this to the general public will be a nightmare. I'm guessing there will be only a limited amount of beta testers for many years

@barbarjinx3802

3 жыл бұрын

I love when you uninformed guessers fail.

@KKmaddafakka

3 жыл бұрын

@@barbarjinx3802 failing with what?

@barbarjinx3802

3 жыл бұрын

@@KKmaddafakka your poor predictions.

@duncanaronstein7462

3 жыл бұрын

just disable it in SF

@o.m.kaya-ozturk1091

3 жыл бұрын

@@barbarjinx3802 agree. Sheer underbelly.

You should’ve turned right on Fillmore. Would’ve loved to of seen it handle all the pedestrians around California Street area

Pretty good

2:21 you sound totally like Beavis here.

Can we all agree that EAP was a good purchase back in the day? Basically got all of the well working bits of FSD for a fraction of the cost

5:38 WOW JEJUS CHRIST. IS THIS SKYNET??

The crazy thing about this is that almost none of the mistakes came from a Tesla vision error. What Tesla has to do now is basically just write an AI for a video game.

@swissgerman69

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they can sell it to the game industry then too🤔 cause they suck at this

@trainiax

3 жыл бұрын

Navigating the real world is vastly more complicated than navigating a video game. There's a growing consensus that Level 5 autonomy requires AGI - which will likely never happen.

Great video. Some great improvement, Some pretty Bad moves. Tough Environment. But Overall u get the impression something is Happening Here!

Imagine being a passenger with this as a robotaxi....

Elon really is a genius, making people pay $10,000 to work for Tesla as testers.

@JaiUneGuruDeja

3 жыл бұрын

There is a higher purpose: to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy

@andyfeimsternfei8408

3 жыл бұрын

And we are elated to do it!

@E-101-Beta

3 жыл бұрын

@@JaiUneGuruDeja You must be some kind of an idiot.

@Ulrich_von_Jungingen

3 жыл бұрын

@@JaiUneGuruDeja Why do Elon simps talk this trash. He is a con man.

@markpickenheim

3 жыл бұрын

I would do it for free. And yes they figured this out in 2016ish and put $1000's of hardware in each car waiting for the software to catch up. Every Tesla always on and always connected to the internet and they have been building the training set. So I was a previous beta tester hopefully again as they expand from the lucky 1000.

The 3 disengagement happened when there was pedestrian nearby. I guess FSD has some safety logic dealing with the case of pedestrian nearby which should be easy fix. V9 is much better than v8.2, considering tremendous re-write the code base to remove radar to make it 100% pure vision. Awesome progress. All these 3 disengagement can be resolved in a few weeks.

@trainiax

3 жыл бұрын

In a few "Elon weeks" maybe. But seriously, 6 years after Elon called FSD a "solved problem" - and 9 months after FSD beta was first released - it still drives into static objects and can't find the lane. If they haven't solved such basic problems after all this time, why would take only a few more weeks?

@kratosdisciple4637

3 жыл бұрын

Lol.

Great video! This should be obligatory viewing for all Tesla owners before they can activate the FSD to set the expectations rights. If you only follow the hype, you'll be much less ready to take over when (not if!) the FSD AI fails. That said, I have to agree that it's already quite impressive indeed. The problem is that you still cannot trust it. However, even this is enough to demonstrate that Tesla/Musk is correct when they say that you don't need radars or other stuff to be successful. All the mistakes this AI made would have been the same even with radars and lidars, too.

2:46 it was going to avoid that bottle on the road.

It's really hard to say for most of these incidents that the car would have crashed but it clearly does not know that the moves it is taking will increase risk of one happening. Overall I think it's impressive for a beta.

Only one youtuber who does not have tesla stock. :)

As long as the graphics are cool, it's OK to endanger everybody that didn't consent to TEST yet another beta of that PoS lvl 2 ADAS

Ooof, that was a rough drive! Been a while since I saw it make such erratic, dangerous swerves. Certainly hoped we were past pathing into cars. Driving in the bus lane/parking, and failing to lane change fast enough, was less surprising. It hasn't been taught to recognize slanted parking lines on the side of a road yet, it seems. I wonder if you're running the same code as most testers or if it's just the city, 'cuz it does way better in the burbs vids. Why is half that first bus lane painted over? =o I was as confused as FSD.

Looks like it really had a bad day in this video. This is the most interventions I've ever seen on one of the more recent fsd videos. But still, this stuff is important to know about.

This is a great video. Thanks for attempting and sharing. I hope Elon and team watch this video and make adjustments

Can you test the uphill ? Would like to know how it will handle sharp uphill FSD

I see it still needs a lot of work. Elon needs to stop hyping up people’s expectations

@jordanjk

3 жыл бұрын

It is still only in beta so it would be suprising if it didn‘t had any problems

@user-nw8jr1dk9p

3 жыл бұрын

What did you expect ? It's still in beta , of course it will have problems. It has definitely improved , but still need a lot more improvement.

@neeljavia2965

3 жыл бұрын

Lol. He himself said that in the last tweet.

@geemy9675

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-nw8jr1dk9p I'd say it's too early to call it beta. sending the wrong message, even worse when he's teasing a public beta soon. at this rate of progress it's still several years before you can take your eyes of the road

@gabrielvoss6251

3 жыл бұрын

And you should stop reading Forbes, it’s called beta for a reason