Version 9 may have more confidence but it’s still a long, long way from real FSD.

@faultline3936

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure if Tesla programs their cars like Waymo does, it's already finished. But they don't want to limit it to certain areas, since it's an AI, it only makes sense to train it to be able to drive in every condition and be able to decide and adapt in different situation. AIs could improve exponentially, just like every tech. So this could be within this year or be 3 more years to finally be called level 5 autonomy.

@jhon__1940

3 жыл бұрын

It's still beta. Full version will come out soon

This video is 6 minutes and 51 seconds long. I just learned I can hold my breath for 6 minutes and 51 seconds 😱 WILD RIDE INDEED!

“I think those people messed it up” as it was driving directly into them.

@jhon__1940

3 жыл бұрын

Ãss-hōlê

“Beta 9 is MUCH more confident” as the steering wheel twitches like a nervous squirrel. I would sweat 5 times as much driving that hill with FSD as I would driving manually.

@faultline3936

3 жыл бұрын

He's directly comparing it to the previous versions

@MaxPro91

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt. I am struggling to understand fanboys claiming true FSD is near, or Elon claiming FSD is *already* superhuman (or close or whatever sh*t he claimes). Can you imagine a driver with at least 2-3 years of experience driving like that?

“I’m worried about the crime in SF”. Gets run over by Tesla FSD. But honestly this was impressive!

LOL the Tesla successfully did Lombard street... just ignore the disengagements and it did it perfectly!

A: FSD is mind-blowing just with the way it is now. Couldn't even imagine this 10 years ago. B: You couldn't pay me to live on Lombard Street. C: You couldn't pay me to even walk on Lombard Street.

@RayCromwell

3 жыл бұрын

10 years ago, Google Waymo vehicles drove down Lombard no problem. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZopmxMWber3bgLQ.html

@wordees

3 жыл бұрын

@@RayCromwell Waymo uses highly-detailed map

@patmanrick

3 жыл бұрын

@@RayCromwell Problem is, Google hasn't really made any material progress since then because it's working on a non-scable solution.

@starshipdriver8536

3 жыл бұрын

@@RayCromwell Prototypes in a history video doesn’t matter. Production vehicles in customer’s hands do.

@AndreB23

3 жыл бұрын

@@RayCromwell With no vehicles and very few people around...

Ballsy, getting that edge case data! Thanks for risking it for the team. Let's get that FSD perfected!

@christopherl.potter3915

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 Let me rush out and judge anyone not being perfect. Any pointers for me? 😳

@christopherl.potter3915

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 Ooooooooooo O.o

@christopherl.potter3915

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 Hide ya kids hide ya wives!

@rickkay9548

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherl.potter3915 Cuz they out hurr rapin everybody today" hahaha THIS GUY GETS IT

@christopherl.potter3915

3 жыл бұрын

@@rickkay9548 You're pickin up what I'm layin down! High five bro 👍

Thanks for taking the time to do that for us. Very entertaining. Phillip.

I noticed you activated FSD after you passed the cop in the intersection directing traffic by hand signals. Level 5 will have to understand his gestures and obey them. That’s going to be really interesting if he’s turned sideways or his back is to the car. And it has to distinguish between a cop and a pedestrian waving to a friend. We’re looking at YEARS not months of development.

Thanks helping to improve the software man, and also for sharing for those of us who are eagerly awaiting the public beta. Your videos help give us a good sense of what's in store for us

One of the best channels for FSD tesla videos ever. glad i found it.

great testing,really enjoyed the ride, i hope next version will be even better, nice to visit san francisco that way

that very impressive some meany variables and it handled it pretty well

Great video! Thanks for sharing!

Nice demo. Keep them coming...I subscribed and liked.

I'm Korean, but other beta testers' videos don't show tests in complex traffic conditions. Your video is very helpful because there are many similarities between traffic conditions in Korea. Thank you. And how much performance has this version improved compared to the previous version?

@christopherl.potter3915

3 жыл бұрын

From what I've seen it's currently about 20% better from a performance standpoint. Dirty Tesla has an ongoing average of disengagements for 8.2 and now V9. But this seems like it's just the jumping off point for FSD. Pretty significant and improving daily it seems.

(Steve Smith, American Dad) "This plan has more twists and turns than Lombard St!"

AMAZING! Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for helping Tesla fine-tune FSD Beta. This is a super tough road, fur sure.

Great progress!!!!

I'm stressed just watching you watching the car. Good job guys

WTF with that Lombard Street. I would hate to drive around there. Dude you're abusing V9. LOL Excellent video. Keep pushing the limits hahaha. Awesome vids.

@float32

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t think of it as abuse, think of it as multiple separate tight turns.

@ymcpa73

3 жыл бұрын

It's mostly a tourist destination. I don't think locals drive on it often.

great test！ this is realy helpful feedback team to improve.

Version 9 is such an improvement. it will only get better.

Wet rainy day here in Perth Western Australia waiting for a Covid vaccine watching a Tesla self driving car navigate a difficult street in sunny San Francisco. What a time to be alive.

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

Lol you are tuning in from all the way around the world :P

@philgower292

3 жыл бұрын

@@AIAddict Yep. Me too in Toowoomba, Sunny Queensland, Australia. And just subscribed👍

Can you test out the hands up again if it's going to disengage?

No clickbait! Well done all around.

@2nd3rd1st

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 Some places slow stop sign running is expected and part of local traffic and FSD beta seems to mimic that behaviour, but should not be allowed of course

@renee3461

3 жыл бұрын

@@kratosdisciple4637 Unfortunately though, sometimes doing something incorrect when driving is actually safer. It's like when the speed limit is 65 mph but everyone is going 85, then it's potentially safer to be going quicker than 65 even if that's not technically the legal thing to do. I think I'd be fine with a self driving car that hit 3ish mph or below at stop signs, as long as that gives it enough time to check that the intersection is clear. Rolling through a stop sign at 6 mph is probably a bit much.

Seems like great experience/training for the AI.

could not have had a better chaotic example unless it was foggy and raining. The mirror folding was NUTZ. The part where tries to go into the driveway is understandable

@float32

3 жыл бұрын

Why is it understandable? It has access to map data, so it should know that’s the wrong way.

@rickkay9548

3 жыл бұрын

@@float32 I agree, but when a road splits, fsd may have plotted another route it thought was easier. The "understandable" part is that its how betas work. Beta sw using glitchy p2p logic will do silly things like localize the next turn probability out of context and say "if this path looks easier, i'll take it" while ignoring the future beyond that path segment. Humans would never do that for sure, as our sw is like v133386.6 lol

That was entertaining.

Nice 👍

Utter chaos. We have a bunch of squids blipping and chirping their way down, a pre-Alpha Hunter-Killer from Skynet, and a bunch of people standing IN the road texting.

This is terrifying. Imagine a yoke spinning around going down that street

In Europe , especially in Mediterranean cities we have many similar situations and streets...Many,many work are waiting Tesla FSD team.

this was terrifying lol

Wunderbar -- This is great. I love driving down Lombard Street.

Driving in mountains through old villages in France and Italy. This will take a while. Granada in Spain was also challenging.

I love Tesla communities

Amazing

Wow!! That’s very impressive!

fsd10 soon. shitz getting real buckle up

3:45 is that reproducible or just coincidence where FSD got in a situation that it thought was unsafe or not able to proceed? Would you get the same alarm on a normal/easy road with your hands up?

@boostav

3 жыл бұрын

That's just the car getting freaked out, has nothing to do with the camera.

It's a good extreme to deal with right away because it's off color road and very convoluted and slanted so a maneuvering policy for this will be generally competent. Notice that the AP map space is flattened no matter how hilly the real world is. But it doesn't seem to hinder it. It's possible that it's true 3D internally though.

Crazy how many people are over there now.

That was wild! Anyone else hold their breath all the way down?

At one and the same time I am super impressed by how far FSD has come, and horrified that such an obviosly incomplete and unsafe version is being beta tested on open roads.

I have watched multiple videos of this latest beta. To say I am not that impressed is an understatement as almost everyone of them required the intervention of the driver. I know it’s a difficult problem to solve, but I am not sure it is solvable in the next few years. Cruise has an impressive video out going through San Francisco.

You beat Tesla Raj to it lol!!!

@harsimranbansal5355

3 жыл бұрын

Whole Mars Blog did one on lumbard street but that was at night without any traffic.

It can't make that first turn because the car can't decide whether to go left or right. If you look at the screen you can see it keeps switching between the two routes, going left, right, left, right, until it almost drives into the wall and stops.

9 months from v8 -> v9. Pretty large improvement. extrapolating that is frightening

It seems like the car has no idea which way leads where and can't decide if the side street is the way to go or not. I haven't been there, but as far as I can tell, the way people tell which way is the right is the color of the road and the repeated pattern, right? It probably won't be easy to get that right in every edge case, because sometimes the opposite might be the correct answer.

You guys pick great routes for testing fsd. I've seen enough of the no intervention videos the Route doesn't require much decision making. I think you bring it to the edge cases and that's where we are gonna see the improvement happening.

Try Vermont St @ 20th St in SF

Bro can you try Lombard at night? Just to see the difference?

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

Sure I’ll try to find a time after work this week or weekend

All these FSD v9 videos are way more impressive when watched at x2 speed

You are a bad man. You put your hands in the air. Bad man. LOL.

if you can do some of those charts for rate of disengagements to miles driven in these kind of streets, it will be AWESOME. Busy and complex city streets driving is probably the key bunch of issues tesla needs to solve before going wide beta. Can probably tell us if selling puts at $1000 for the next 2 years is worth doing. Thanks!!!

Geez, I don’t think I would drive down that road in real life.

IN THIS CASE I say: who cares if it works perfectly or not, IT'S JUST GREAT FUN!

Get a beat up Tesla and test it with FSD on Times Square in NYC for 10 days straight up and down Midtown. Then send it for 10 days straight to any big city in India, and so on. It'll get all the experience it needs to interact with the worst drivers in the world.

Wow when I went to that street no one was on it.

Yes it has problems...but Tesla's FSD is light years ahead of the competition.

you gonna do it again for 9.2 and 9.3 ?

@AIAddict

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure, maybe 9.3

VERY IMPRESSIVE and with all those bikes and people and only using camera WOW

Definitely seemed faster than previous builds. If it could just figure out that driveway xD

@Tom_McMurtry

3 жыл бұрын

It did at nightime for someone elses beta run

Surprising to see so many people there. I thought San Francisco had turned into a dystopian nightmare after crime was decriminalised.

@einfussganger

3 жыл бұрын

Tourist areas are mostly OK in daylight. Homeless people everywhere on the sidewalks, tho. Note the roving bands of unlicensed dirt bikes and ATVs riding wild.

4:22 SKYNET almost accomplished its purpose.

Ok. Now how about a drive over 17 to Santa Cruz and back? Or maybe Half Moon Bay?

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

That is actually my backyard (I live off 17) I’ve done multiple FSD drives on these roads without filming as I wasn’t aware people were that interested. I’ll upload that this weekend possibly!

Its confused, due to the driveway on the tight bend

Only one youtuber who does not have tesla stock. :)

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

You do not want to see my Tesla portfolio 😓 lol 📉

At the beginning isn't it the place where Antman was filmed ? xd this is why there is a lot of people i think xd

No hands 🙈😄

You should try going uphill

Where is the objective data about FSD progress through the time, per version? For example take the same path, the same weekday, same hour, and compare interventions & disengagements. Can also collect the data about the types of disengagements. Do this with several different drivers, different areas. It can show the real progress of the the FSD per version. You guys can organize this.

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

We actually redo the same path every time with each version. You can find similar paths and videos on our channel :)

Crazy good, compared to the last beta! Still, way to go. I mean these kind of streets are quite common in the Alps in Italy and such. Often not that crowded but sometimes even that.

Those people didn't mess it up. The car messed it up.

thats a legit test

this is the second time I watch your channel, and i just want to say, from the bottom of my heart WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT ROAD

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha it’s Lombard Street in San Francisco. World famous for having 8 tight steep hair pin turns. Widely known as the most crooked street in the world.

Much MUCH better

@softwarephil1709

3 жыл бұрын

Then it must have been really, really bad. Without very diligent monitoring and rapid interventions, it would have wrecked the car or killed someone.

I wonder if it trying to take the wrong turn is due to poor mapping? It probably doesn't realise the road it needs to take continues around to the right. Overall though, with that navigation error aside, it did an amazing job!

@ymcpa73

3 жыл бұрын

If you look at the map, it looks like a Y intersection instead of a road with a turn off into a driveway.

your video is the reason that the stock is up 4% today.

Put a Waymo vehicle on that street.

It seems to steer in a very hectic way !

@softwarephil1709

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! I laughed when they said “It’s much more confident” while the steering wheel was spinning back and forth and twitching like a nervous poodle.

Looks like your car got confused with the driveway and the main street

Living on this street must be terrible

dude please keep your hands on the wheel.

@lukealdrich

3 жыл бұрын

For real

@baselsalam

3 жыл бұрын

When the steering is moving so fast you can't possibly hold it. But what you can do is keep your foot on the brake pedal at all times, which I'm sure this person's doing

@GS540

3 жыл бұрын

@@baselsalam I agree that you can hold it but I think just holding you hands around it just incase it makes a crazy move.

@SimplyCali619

3 жыл бұрын

You can't see it but you can hear he has his hands near the bottom of the steering wheel.....when the steering wheeling is turning fast you can hear his hand gliding over the steering wheel. People assume so quickly.....

@desolater010

3 жыл бұрын

Stop crying

When did unlicensed dirt-bikes become street legal?

@AIAddict

3 жыл бұрын

They are not legal. There were actually multiple SFPD officers controlling traffic for the intersection. SF basically has no laws / no chase policy as most dirt bike riders are considered “gangs” which could compromise future investigations if they impede them. As well as cause unsafe situations for bystanders. Silly laws. Very common to see a group of them doing wheelies and speeding through traffic in the city as they come over from Oakland

Man, I’m feeling sympathy for the nn- poor thing being tortured like that

lets do it again. lol

about the 80/20% theory, maybe this might go faster according to the exponential curve rate Elon was talking about too

@fwang3023

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the last 20% progress need 80% of the efforts?

@softwarephil1709

3 жыл бұрын

No! The difficulty increases exponentially as you deal with more and more complex edge cases. Progress will be harder and slower. Think about correctly recognizing and responding to the cop in the intersection giving hand signals to direct traffic. Can AI distinguish a cop or a flagger from a pedestrian gesturing to a friend?

I mean... people riding their bikes like at minute 2:49 WTF, poor V9.

The traffic authorities are going to have to limit who gets to drive down Lombard Street. I vote for "residents only". Certainly NOT motorcycles. I've driven it once when there wasn't a waiting line.

How are unlicensed dirt bikes allowed to ride on the streets without arrest? Anyway, I would hate to live on that street.

@softwarephil1709

3 жыл бұрын

Does SF arrest anyone any more? How about blatant shoplifters?

prob still needs lidar and better ai

I want to take the screen protector off of your screen. Can I please tear it off? :D

They should make this street only for pedestrians

now drive the car with the steering yolk

Crude language

Looks like Elon is going to have to announce HW 4 with a newer computer and better cameras. Doesn’t seem like this will do real autonomy level 5.