Former President Jacob Zuma's corruption trial | 26 October 2023

The arms deal fraud and corruption trial of former president Jacob Zuma and French arms manufacturer
Thales will be back at the Pietermaritzburg High Court on Thursday. Zuma is expected to lead arguments in his latest application to have state prosecutor advocate Billy Downer removed as lead prosecutor from his trial. Zuma earlier this month lost his appeal in the Supreme Court of Appeal against the enforcement order of a ruling which set aside his private prosecution of Downer and journalist Karyn Maughan.
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  • @SonOfTheSoil834
    @SonOfTheSoil8347 ай бұрын

    The people’s advocate 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽each big case at this moment is directly or indirectly Ramaphosa vs Zuma ..will be behind Zuma until the grave .he stood up for the black poor people of South Africa regardless of his wrongs he did !…you can go to Mkhwebane case,Domner and Morné case,king of the Zulus case,etc ….if isn’t about racist Afriforum vs EFF..in summary we can say all this cases is the poor black people of SA vs white racists monopoly capital…..only the South African courts can say is fine with law authorities leaking to public the medical records of someone and only SA courts can say someone didn’t benefit from a campaign that aimed at elevating him from deputy president to become a president of which happened ofcoz 😂the whole constitution court ..but anyways will never get off this hook as long as our contitution gives president as an individual ,powers to hire ,promote or suspend this heads or leaders of this critical institutions meant to hold anyone accountable including himself president.if our constitutional will give powers to politicians to hire or dismiss experts heading such institutions,then we should never ever dream that we can avoid state capture in a capitalist state like this led by ANC thugs

  • @BreachRepaira

    @BreachRepaira

    7 ай бұрын

    Yoh, so much for doing something for blacks, pls visit Nkandla because for a town or district where a former head of state resides, it is sadly a true and honest reflection of what Zuma has done for his own people, who live in his own back yard

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie16 ай бұрын

    Unbelievable that an advocate can argue in the manner Mpofu does, small wonder he has lost soo many cases. The examples he uses to illustrate his points are absurd to common sense. He clearly does not think things through.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us2 ай бұрын

    This judge (Chili J) will be bogged down with multitudes of applications and ended up recusing himself...26/2/2024...my opinion this one.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Much as C/Court judge and legendary anti-apartheid activist once said, that he was amazed that Black African men perpetrated against others the very conduct they complained about against themselves, Dali seems to suggest that Downer's right to presumption of innocence in the private prosecution is not applicable in Zuma's prosecution and should be presumption of guilt to advance Zuma's case for Downer's partiality. Small.wonder Zuma court success rate under Dali is zero

  • @sechenegololo531

    @sechenegololo531

    7 ай бұрын

    In a recusal or removal application, the deed not to have materialized. Apprehension of possible bias due to previous conduct is enough. But of course the South African courts are no longer applying the law since the advent of the current administration. The DA and allied people, including Ramaphosa always get favourable court rulings

  • @sechenegololo531

    @sechenegololo531

    7 ай бұрын

    Even Adv Budlender snr is concerned about the matters raised hence he is restless in court today

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie16 ай бұрын

    Mpofu's proposition about kissing democracy goodbye, is an absurdity in the context of JZ's State Capture antics, in particular capture of the judiciary and prosecution authorities.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    What Dali diesnt realise is that his case/argument betrays the Stalingrad stratagem

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us2 ай бұрын

    Come April 2024 this case will be postponed to October 2024 and again to April 2025....this will be the order of the day postponement after postponement...Two times a year then we go to the following year. No evidence will be led here...This is my opinion as a South African citizen...26/2/2024

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie16 ай бұрын

    Zuma's legal representatives need to take JZ's advice and "listen properly" when reading judgements and affidavits.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    I just wonder when Zuma supporters will realise that the EFF LEGAL REPRESENTATION is a grand stratagem to get EFF votes

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Dali doesnt see that Downer's failure to report, if he never did, Breytenbach, is not a criminal act, or even unlawful, per se, but a professional breach, and begs the question why he prosecuted Downer & Maughan (belatedly) and not Breytenbach.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Dali's reliance on public perception explains his court antics...playing to gallery instead of the court

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Surely Mpofu cannot seriously believe his own argument about Monday Tuesday, in the circumstances of his .private prosecution 'stunt' which is clearly and res iudicata a contrivance for the purposes of.litigation

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Think Dalimisses the point that it is for the Court to not the accused, especially a vexatious accused trying to abuse the provisions of law.as a stratagem to avoid being held to account. Not for the accused to claim as a matter of right, per se.

  • @sechenegololo531

    @sechenegololo531

    7 ай бұрын

    I don't think you conversant with the law, it is for any aggrieved party to plead for the court to make a particular ruling. The court don't act without prayers before it!

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Mpofu and his side-kick speaking audibly into the microphones is evidence of the lack of professional ethic.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie16 ай бұрын

    Zuma's legal representatives need to read the Legal Practice Council's Code of Conduct, especially 57.9, 57.1

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us7 ай бұрын

    Why Adv Mpofu SC explains the Latin Maxims to the bench (Court) which obviously is aware of them???? 27/10/2023

  • @rogerchanda
    @rogerchanda7 ай бұрын

    Colour wars

  • @gilbertgavin3014
    @gilbertgavin30147 ай бұрын

    This is really not fair ,that is a 82 yr old ,Father of the nation.that is being dragged until he is that tired in these courts that favour others and others not favoured. Let our courts be equal and fair to our elder ,Mr JZ zuma.we respect him ,and he must be treated fairly.please.🙏🙏

  • @paulmarsden1503

    @paulmarsden1503

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes I agree.....corrupt POS Zuma must be tried, found guilty, because he is, and thrown back into court.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    All I can think is Zuma is being mulcted by these legal representatives

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Especially insofar as Zuma kbew that the information would be made known and that eliminated its privacy, and further that such information was already in public domain from Concourt incarceration

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Seems Zuma's counsel have forgotten about the judgements against Zuma's corruption and capture of the NPA

  • @musandasikhwivhilu
    @musandasikhwivhilu7 ай бұрын

    For him to go to court even when it was not necessary, his strategy was to have the audience to address. The crowd that would come because of racial issues some for tribal reasons.

  • @nonjikocyril4274

    @nonjikocyril4274

    7 ай бұрын

    Bullshit stop your tribalism hate please.He has a right to be there if he want to.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Dali's innuendo that Zumais an angel and.victim is telling

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Can Dali seriously suggest his argument about the SCA judgement as evidence. Its a matter of language and judgement reading, like the EFF's view.of history only opening book at the place it suits your skulduggery, instead of reading the whole book and taking the matter as a whole.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Now about Dali's banana republic parallel and his.client the banana farmer

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu91717 ай бұрын

    Downer is 66, he should consider recusing or retiring, to give young people a chance to serve in NPA

  • @HlubiNgwane

    @HlubiNgwane

    7 ай бұрын

    Usangene.

  • @paulmarsden1503

    @paulmarsden1503

    6 ай бұрын

    So no one over 66 should be president???? What rubbish.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie16 ай бұрын

    Zuma and Dali have just in the closing laid bare their strategy of the private prosecution, I truly hope that Downer and Maughan who already have the benefit of a number of decisions related to the prospects of success of the private prosecution and the abuse thereof, bring a malicious prosecution action against Zuma and his legal representatives, because a legal representative cannot enjoy privilege when he is participating in an unlawful act.

  • @paulmarsden1503

    @paulmarsden1503

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm now convinced.....in my opinion, Mpofu is an idiot.

  • @alecmackie1
    @alecmackie17 ай бұрын

    Dali fails entirely, while he is fumbling around with his papers and his argument all over the place, that what was disclosed. It wasn't personal data per se

  • @bonganidube429

    @bonganidube429

    6 ай бұрын

    What was it ? Ever heard of POPI Act ?

  • @simingayezulu8246
    @simingayezulu82467 ай бұрын

    Nxamalala, we salute you and you're well represented by SC Adv Mpofu noMasuku🙌🏿🤞🏿

  • @paulmarsden1503

    @paulmarsden1503

    6 ай бұрын

    Hahahaha😅 Mpofu has to be the worst 'advocate' in South Africa.....'or whatever'

  • @sechenegololo531
    @sechenegololo5317 ай бұрын

    Billy Downer's answer to the case is not based on the law, but it is just on narratives.

  • @jameskillu9171

    @jameskillu9171

    7 ай бұрын

    Downer has white privelege; NPA retired our black grandfathers, but not Downer who is 66 . He is too young for NPA

  • @aaronrathbone6693

    @aaronrathbone6693

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jameskillu9171 stop with your victim mentality 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @aaronrathbone6693

    @aaronrathbone6693

    7 ай бұрын

    Downers arguments are based in fact that is why the last court ruled in his favor... that's not an opinion like yours .... it's a fact

  • @aaronrathbone6693

    @aaronrathbone6693

    7 ай бұрын

    It's also not because of white privilege as the courts do not accept this currency of race and identity comunist politics 🙄 hahahahaha 😆 🤣 😂

  • @aaronrathbone6693

    @aaronrathbone6693

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jameskillu9171 bacuse he has white privlage bahahahajahahahhahahahahahahahahahahajahahahahahahahahahahaha f when you are to dumb to come up with a argument... it's because he has white privlage bahahaha 😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂 you are race obsessed racist with a huge victim mentality 🤣 😂

  • @aaronrathbone6693
    @aaronrathbone66937 ай бұрын

    When is Zuma going to Pay the 26 million rand the courts ordered him to pay in legal fees??? Why has he got special treatment to just dodge court orders and jail terms bannana republic 😂

  • @jameskillu9171

    @jameskillu9171

    7 ай бұрын

    When NPA employ all our black grandfathers who are 66 years old like Downer

  • @aaronrathbone6693

    @aaronrathbone6693

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jameskillu9171 ish broken thinking and reasoning how sad ...