Goddamn, as someone who literally only got my Thousand Sons a week ago and it being the first army I have ever build, I am loving the fact that this channel exists for my dusty bois

I am so glad there is a channel that foccuses on what things do to the Sons. I cant wait for a new codex, but im happy that the changes made it a bit easier for us to get around. I love fielding Marcus, so my big hope is that he is going to get that little edge that makes it easier to field him. As always, great video!

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Robin! Given those Mortarion changes I really hope Magnus gets in built buffs for deployment. Maybe always has a 3++ or reduced damage, and a fixed casting buff. We can only hope. No one wants to coolest primarch sat off board for a turn and praying to the dice gods he casts the right spells to survive...

@Bhs1867

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming I'd love a little more imagimation from GW. How about a mechanic based on projecting magical illusions that fool enemies into shooting at them? Magnus, once per enemy shooting phase, gets to actually not be where the enemy thought he was, and the attacks from a unit miss him, and he can immediately move 3". This would give him the guaranteed durability buff he needs to be properly scary (and properly worth 465 pts). I'd also love to see a fast attack choice where the soul and ashes of a rubric marine whose armor was too badly damaged have been interred in an urn on a disc, but the marine still thinks he has a body. He zips around the board in squads of 3-9 attacking the enemy with phantom limbs he believes he still has, but they're actually manifestations of warpflame. This unit could have all is dust or whatever rule replaces it and give a cool combinatination of speed, melee punch, durability, and ability to play the 9th missions that the army sorely needs, while also shifting the focus away from the Age of Sigmar ports that I personally don't think fit in well at all.

Imagine a codex as good and thematic as the death guard one 🙏 I would also like to see a dedicated range unit in power armor for thousand sons Some kind of havocs with magic bullets as it should be

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

The TS could do with some more dedicated 40K kits. A vehicle, fast attack or heavy infantry and character would be nice

I just hope that our codex will be announced soon, before mid year. Maybe a new unit. A Tzaangor buff would be really interesting, along with the rubric and scarab termies wounds increase.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Some specific strats for Tzaangors would be nice, I don’t mind losing Veterans or Heretic keywords if there was a sensible replacement. Let’s hope the codex is soon, I want to get my analyst brain going on all the changes!

I'm enjoy watch this video about rules, good too increase rules comprehension. Anyway, since death guard got a lot of buff, maybe thousand sons will be buffed too. But who knows? Maybe new minis are coming around.......

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I’m really hoping so! DG just got a new model and they already have loads of specific kits compared to the TS which have to share a few from Age of Sigmar! Plenty of buffs but a few restrictions such as a single Daemon Prince per detachment now!

Love your channel Nick. Did he see the teaser of a thousand sons/grey knights. What's your interpretation of it You think we get new units?

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I certainly did see the teaser!!! I got a little excited! It looked like at least a Terminator Sorcerer model was in there, and GW almost certainly confirmed Castellan Crowe in plastic for the GK. I am hoping for a vehicle kit like the DG have as a bare minimum, even if that is a Psychic Dread perhaps. Id guess the box itself will be two small armies with a the characters each as they only way to get them first, before individual released a month or so later as they have done with other dual sets recently.

Some good changes. But I’m looking forward to the codex. Hopefully this year. Lol

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully! I know they have slowed down their releases right now, but my understanding was the codexes were all “written” at the same time, and now it’s a waiting game. Unfortunately for me it will still be theory hammer until much later this year when we are all vaccinated in the UK. It’s been horrible not being able to play against friends for nearly a year now.

Deffy for tsons laz cannon went to 10 pts which makes me happy

Hey man what did you use for the base coloration of your army? It really compliments the blue/gold of the Thousand bois.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like the basing. I have a full build and paint guide on them on the channel. Just search lava bases and it will show up👍

The secondary objective changes definitely help, but i think abhor the witch will depend on how powerful psykers in other armies are. If psychic is weak in most factions, then it'll still be a problem. For points, I'm pretty sure the rubrics will go up in line with plague marines (3 points per model), but I think disgustingly resilient (even with the change) is much more powerful than all is dust, as with the space marine meta, multi damage weapons will be much more prevalent than single damage weapons, so I hope it's either tweaked or the points hike isn't as extreme. Tzaangors need some love too, and maybe another terminator model kit with some close combat options (force weapons or something). Power swords are in a better state for sure, but I think if 1k sons had more cqc options, it will help against other factions terminators. Also, I think if the smite changes stay in place, it's probably time for us to get regular smites on all units, instead of the baby smite.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Rubrics are sure to go up but the idea of a regular smite all round is a very good idea I think. Now seeing that Daemon Princes are limited to one per detachment for the DG, that will be coming to TS for sure...

@Gaspingindeath

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming yeah, I just hope the don't limit the number of exalted sorcerer's, or if they do, have it be one with disk and one without or something like that.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Hardly any HQs left to pick if we get that limit applied too

I'm really crossing my fingers hoping we get the Death Guard treatment. Would be awesome seeing our Magnus shatter worlds again

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes! I’ve just got the new DG codex to see if there are some things we can make sensible assumptions the TS will get or lose

@Momentomori916

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming on the negative end, I'm hoping we don't have the same limitations as "Lords" do within deathguard. I love taking all my exalted Sorcerors and daemon prince models

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@Momentomori916 likewise, we don’t have the HQs to really have a limiting factor like the DG. Unless they give us 2-3 alternative HQs it would be a real shame if the Exalteds get a limit applied

I want some fraction only daemon engines. And by the Guns of Cadia I want psychic contemptors!

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! The DG have some sweet vehicles, so it’s only fair that a fully fledged codex faction like the TS gets something appropriate. It’s such a limited model range in reality😢

I’m just looking forward to seeing how Death Guard run now. I’ve been playing 8th Ed DG vs 9th Ed marines and Necrons and they’ve fared well, especially in smaller games. I’m thinking they’re gonna be pretty epic...until they’re nerfed.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

They will be epic until enough are sold🤣 at least you are gaming mate. I’m jealous!

Why does no one ever mention the TZEENTCH Daemons when they talk about Abhor the witch??

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point actually! I’m glad you raised that up!

Do you think Thousand Sons will go the way of the Deathguard and lose their Daemon summoning ? their roster is slightly thinner then death guard.. I'm thinking of getting the start collecting terminators and some pink horrors just wondering if it's worth it ?

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Difficult one that. I feel we will lose a bit like the DG with Daemon Prince limits etc, but summoning is a weird one. TS are all about the magic and Tzeentch Daemons, so it would be a bit silly to take it away. Also our model range is well below that of the DG. 8 v 5 HQs for example but we do have more heavy support options to pick from. That said, they are just generic chaos kits and nothing TS specific. I hope we keep summoning for flavour but have a feeling it might go.

@15mmGustavus

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming I would imagine.. that Thousand Sons will get a couple of extra kits nothing crazy, that all is dust will stay the same and some form of psychic re roll becomes a thing. and the Combat Patrol will be Ahriman, Rubric marines, Tzangors and probably some form of armoured support

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I am hopeful we will get at least a new HQ sorcerer kit and some changes to the rules for Exalted and regular sorcerers so they are the equiv of a captain and a lieutenant with appropriate aura powers. I hope we get a special daemon engine unique to the faction (DG have a couple of cool vehicle type kits after all) and a terrain piece. Fingers and toes are firmly crossed!

@15mmGustavus

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming the biggest issue for them in my opinion no easy access to psychic rerolls.. I've had a tonne of fun playing with my t sons

If we can see a pattern in 9th edition releses we can expect one new unit/HQ and dedicated terrain and if thats so I wonder what it might be and how it would affect the Thousand Sons.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Terrain certainly seems a theme and the “star gate” piece from 2 years ago only half helped the TS. The inv save bit was pointless. A summoning later would be cool! Maybe this will be the excuse for a new Daemon Prince model we desperately need? Or a psychic dread, or, well anything cool🤣

@konradregiec1665

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming Haha, TS themed DP would be super cool, but I dont think this is what we trully need... For me TS looks like a half-made army. We have got 5 dedicated kits, rest of our models are ports from AoS and monsters/vehicles that any other CSM Army could field. I would be super excited if GW filled that gap and gave us some dedicated fast attack and heavy support unit. Hey, a man can dream xD Exalted Sorcerer in Terminator Armor could be super cool for re-rolling aura for Scarab Occult tho.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree tbh. We are a hotchpotch army for sure and could do with something a bit more dedicated to the cause. A Terminator Sorcerer is probably the easy win from a sculpting perspective. Copy and paste from the plastic Chaos Lord kit and SoT aspiring and voila. It’s exciting to speculate really.

@konradregiec1665

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming It is exciting, indeed, however I dont want to go too deep into rabbit hole. Reality can be harsh ;) Both sculpting and ruleswise. Khentai Occult, or TS themed HAvocs would be relly nice as well, since we do not have many anti-tank options.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Totally with you for sure on this one. Don’t overset your expectations🤣 Just be glad if we get “something” and a decent set of magic rules. I don’t want the TS to be like the Adpetus Astartes and auto win, just make us have something we can work well with and give a gaming challenge that isn’t a whitewash

Im just waiting for them to revert the Brotherhood of Sorceror's rule change.

@OldAverageBritGaming

3 жыл бұрын

I’m wondering if the new keyword from the Imperial Armour book will have some interaction with the BoS ability on casting that we lost. Arcana Astartes must be something good right?

@smugron1101

3 жыл бұрын

@@OldAverageBritGaming Maybe. I havent really thought about it much. I just want my cheap smite back =(