Money isn't everything, unless you haven't got any.

@commonsense5494

6 жыл бұрын

"Money can't buy happiness." is one of the stupidest fucking statements in the history of mankind. Tell that to a single parent working three jobs just to keep from being homeless. Money might make them at least a little happy.

@user-ud2pq4wr4h

6 жыл бұрын

CommonSense Money can't buy happiness unless you're below the poverty line. Rich people are no happier than those who can afford to live comfortably without concern.

@LetralXIV

6 жыл бұрын

hhiippiittyy Money buys food. Food makes hungry people happy. Money absolutely buys happiness. Unfortunately, in America, happiness is stupidly expensive.

@commonsense5494

6 жыл бұрын

+M T I'm so glad to hear that never having to work or worry about money, or being able to jet off to that villa in the South of France or go out on your yacht is no more fun than "living comfortably". We've all been mistaken all of these years. That phrase was made up by rich people in order to convince poor people that rich people deserved their sympathy.

@user-ud2pq4wr4h

6 жыл бұрын

CommonSense I can't tell if this is sarcasm. But yeah, a lot of the millionaires are miserable despite being able to jet off to villas and Jamaica or whatever lol. You're right most never have to work for it. How can you fully appreciate something you didn't earn?

I hate when they say money can't buy happiness. Yes it can. Money could fix 90% of my problems. I can I health insurance, a car, I could go to therapy and get the medication I can no longer afford, I could go to the doctor when things are wrong with me, I could buy a stable house, I can afford to fill my fridge full of food instead of scrounging even mostly rice so that I won't die. My bills will be paid. I could afford the college education that I so desperately need to get a job in this market. The other 10% of my problems are problems with myself that I would actually be able to start dealing with if I don't have to constantly worry about if I'm going to be homeless in a few weeks. I don't want a Surplus of money to go out and do stupid shit I want to not stress about dying on the streets.

@redravens

6 жыл бұрын

Chillyourbiscuits Zombie , having money + being unhappy = user error . Lol

@Skelstoolbox

6 жыл бұрын

The study showed that after 75 k a year, additional money did not contribute to more happiness. Certainly if you are poor, or a low income earner like me, more money would go a long way for increased happiness.. Almost in sync if you graphed it out... Until 75 k a year..

@Skelstoolbox

6 жыл бұрын

Same.. For one month back in 2012 I needed to use the local homeless shelter in town until I got my feet under me and have never looked back! Now a bachelor apartment, hobbies, in good shape and a decent sword collection now that zero money goes to drugs..

@bubblebreak4160

6 жыл бұрын

Money can buy happiness up to $79,000/year (probably $89,000 now due to inflation) after that there is no relationship.

@fairystail1

6 жыл бұрын

well id love to earn that amount, accounting for dollar conversion im roughly 40,000 short a year of the optimum mark

My great grandfather who lived in the depression often said to me "money isn't everything but it sure comes in handy when you're trying to live".

@CrazyMazapan

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant. And he KNEW what he was talking about.

@sethkomagum1849

2 жыл бұрын

True

@goldbeetle3286

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a pretty good point.

Money can’t buy happiness, Peasants! Sincerely, -the BILLIONAIRES

@bulaluigi

5 жыл бұрын

Eating the rich would make me feel better

@donnydanger273

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!! Just ask any millionaire or billionaire they'll tell you!!!!

@feelslikebatman6091

4 жыл бұрын

@James Brice do you want asian flavor, american flavor or african flavor?

@aaronkisitu4855

4 жыл бұрын

Weird how the people with money say it can't make you happy and those without deny it. But when they get money they become the ones warning about how money can't buy happiness. It's a endless cycle

@nexzae

4 жыл бұрын

张铁牛 what about european

money isnt everything but it sure comes in handy when you're trying to live

@rocknroller4186

6 жыл бұрын

gh0styler it's funny cause the only people that say that money isn't everything are people with money. I've never seen somebody like me, slightly better off than me or worse off than me say that bs.

@ghostmemeboi

6 жыл бұрын

rocknroller 418 people who dont think money is important are often people who have never been without it

@rocknroller4186

6 жыл бұрын

gh0styler rite let them go without money and see if they still think it aint everything

@WrensthavAviovus

6 жыл бұрын

I think that was an actual line In Aviator the Howard Hughes character said at the family dinner he had with his soon to be wife's family.

@DrakeMagnum

6 жыл бұрын

I'll admit that is when I need it the most.

We lived in a friends garage when I was younger. My mother, stepfather, brother and I. We later upgraded to a 1 bedroom duplex with a screened in porch. My brother and I slept on the porch. I was 5 years old. I remember having a sleeping bag for a bed and always being cold. We would get the free clothes from the School store. They used to do a donation center. I remember getting 2-3 outfits, socks and underwear. We had homeless people who lived in the park. My mother would make a big pot of soup or rice & beans and feed the homeless people in the park. They were our babysitters. My brother and I would always play at the park and they’d make sure no one would kidnap us. I almost got taken when I was 5. One homeless man who always watched us stopped the guy from grabbing me.

@Jadez1207

6 жыл бұрын

Welp, life sucks

@jaimemicelotti8539

6 жыл бұрын

Jz1207 LoL it can. TG it got better after my mother left my stepfather. I’m glad my children have never experienced what I did. In a way it’s a good thing. I’m not a snob and I’ve taught my kids not to prejudge people. I’m very honest with them. I grew up in a poor and abusive environment. I was determined not to repeat the pattern.

@tonialoconte

6 жыл бұрын

Great post, Jaime! It's sad how we see people without a roof over their heads as a whole separate category of person ("homeless") that actually makes them frightening to a lot of people who aren't in that situation.

@bettywhite2694

6 жыл бұрын

Jaime M as long as you’re mentally strong, a difficult upbringing usually creates some of the most interesting and well developed individuals

@totallynameless8861

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Or PTSD or other mental illness. I suppose they aren't "mentally strong" enough, though.

Money isn't everything, but not having money IS everything.

There is no nobility in poverty. Only pain, want, and terror. I've been homeless, hungry, and broke. You have to be a pretty loathsome person for me to wish that upon you. It's hell on earth.

@wholelottapain8130

4 жыл бұрын

True. There’s no nobility poverty. The antidote to poverty is opportunity

@pinkpearl1967

4 жыл бұрын

@Juicelad How did you get out of homelessness?

@pinkpearl1967

4 жыл бұрын

@Juicelad Thanks. Good to hear that you are doing better now.

@TheSkullConfernece

4 жыл бұрын

I'm homeless right now. I work full time and am saving up for an apartment, living on the streets in the winter and sometimes friends and family's places when I and they have the time. That being said I know at least one person who definitely deserves homelessness due to the fact that they are literally the most ungrateful and disrespectful pieces of crap I've ever met. He constantly yells and terrorizes his entire family while taking no accountability, never contributes to the household in any way at the age of 22. He makes messes all the time while never cleaning up, fights with his family (including physically) when they don't do him favors, and constantly steals from them as well (such as expensive possessions, alcohol from his parents, and pain medication from my girlfriend who has chronic back pain and cyclic vomiting syndrome). I'm very glad to say that he just got kicked out yesterday from that household. He deserved it and needs to be taught the lesson of a hard life to better his own. Sorry to say that you don't really know what you're talking about.

@andrecharlebois705

4 жыл бұрын

To quote Jordan Belfort: "I have been a rich man and I have been a poor man and I can tell you I choose rich every f*cking time!!"

The thing about shameless is money just pops up when they need it and they the luckiest poor people ever.

@patrickmann3123

6 жыл бұрын

thawk4life Watch the UK so much better.

@snoozywomble

6 жыл бұрын

I couldn't watch the american one it was like they completely missed the point

@Calamitys_Edge

6 жыл бұрын

It made me so fucking mad bc its so unrealistic that i wont even wartch it i hate it so much

@CommanderPandaArmy

6 жыл бұрын

thawk4life Ummm, they explain where the money comes from every time it pops up. And it usually never lasts. The only person with somewhat reliable income is Fiona after she starts flipping properties. Besides that everyone is always struggling for cash. Not sure what show you’ve been watching.

@zairemoorer9666

6 жыл бұрын

Money does not pop up when they need it. They find away to get. Tell me one time when money just popped up. Trust me boi there not lucky

I feel like Raising Hope and The Middle had more realistic poor people houses. They looked cramped and the furniture wasn't just out-of-style it was stained and worn out. Plus there appliances all had little glitches that you needed to be aware off in order to get them to function. That's what owning truly old things is really like.

@TheCommexoKidMusic

6 жыл бұрын

Minda Carpenter Raising Hope did do a good job at it.

@samrobacker346

6 жыл бұрын

Sister Hecate like we had a really old electric kettle, that just didn't turn off so when you unplugged it too fast it sparked. The Loud House also has a..interesting look at, not poor, but they certainly are just getting in under the line

@bradlunsford2161

6 жыл бұрын

Our toaster, we have to use a butter knife to use.

@thotcrimez4252

6 жыл бұрын

As a poor person I live in a moderately large apartment then on top of only some of my appliances are broken or out of date.

@AlexaBellaMuerte

6 жыл бұрын

The middle was great

I hate how every broke character is always buying drinks at the bar.

@HarvestMoonHowl

4 жыл бұрын

I know, bar drinks are expensive even in the dives. I like how travel is portrayed, too. I remember when I first started my job in AZ and overhearing engineers in the cafeteria talk about how they were living in hotels until they found a house. I came down after loading my car with as much as I could, barely made it across 1,300 miles in four days (I broke down twice) with only a few hundred dollars and a prayer. The income/lifestyle gap is high even between the working and upper middle class.

@undeadpresident

4 жыл бұрын

@@HarvestMoonHowlyep, in the USA, Working class = barely paying for food and rent, while Upper Middle Class = rich as fuck by 99% of the world's standards.

@HarvestMoonHowl

4 жыл бұрын

@@undeadpresident The "American Dream" has been dying for forty years, now. Before long, I think our country will look something like Brazil.

@HAWXLEADER

4 жыл бұрын

I'm in no way broke yet I'd never buy drinks at a bar regularly. It's like 7-10 dollars per half a liter of beer here(if not more)! while a bottle is about 1-2$. PS: I'm in Israel

@undeadpresident

4 жыл бұрын

@@HarvestMoonHowl The Zionist mafia has a major role in fucking the USA over as they defraud the place with their control over the financial system and constant lies and information control using their monopolization of the mass media, and control of the politicians.

am i the only one that doesn’t think alot of this stuff is poverty? it seems like middle class- lower middle class... i’ve never seen shows where single mothers rent out basements or one room apartments, or where shelter and clothing seem to be an actual problem. it’s almost as if they spend all their money on makeup, clothing, rent, then all of the sudden go “oh no my power went out, i’m soooo poor”. nobody thinks like that

@fantasyfiction101

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely seems like most of the time it's lower middle class when it comes to shows likethis.

@Wwumzymumzy

5 жыл бұрын

jacob- mickey People don’t want to look at below the lower class. It’s too depressing and will make them feel bad for not doing anything for the homeless

@iamtheSK1NW4lK3R

5 жыл бұрын

You should meet my step mom, because she is this cartoonishly bad at life and financials.

@amritpathak6122

5 жыл бұрын

I guess the only time I've seen poverty depicted right was in The Wire and recently in The Florida project

@marissal6576

5 жыл бұрын

I volunteer in the inner city and this is actually what most of the people do, spending money on material items and then leaving their kids with 100 dollar shoes and no running water.

One reason "Roseanne" struck such a chord is that the setting was so realistic - all the furniture looked like it was second-hand or very well used. The Conners were realistically poor, too - Rosie worked a variety of low-paying jobs, Dan left a job he hated (drywall installation) for his dream job (motorcycle shop) but failed. They rarely could cover their bills, and lost their electricity at least once. One of the funniest, most relatable families around, until the last couple seasons totally ruined it.

@danielsteel5251

6 жыл бұрын

I still look back on the re-runs in amazement. Especially the earlier seasons.

@derpsanddragons8851

6 жыл бұрын

Oh man I forgot about Rosanne! My family watched that show obsessively when I was growing up. We freaking looked up to them. Damn I gotta watch that again!

@patrickmccurry1563

6 жыл бұрын

They were on par with Shameless for horribly piles of human excrement. I've always been poor, and they were not relatable at all to me or anyone I knew.

@victorcates9330

6 жыл бұрын

the question is whether its just that executives became more closed off to conditions, or whether audience drove the change. I think at this point, people would be alienated by a portrayal of someone who had their life.

@mechantechatonne

6 жыл бұрын

They were sarcastic but they were pretty genuinely good people. They cared about each other, weren't criminals, didn't run around beating people up or bullying people. I really don't see why you think the family from Roseanne was so bad besides the fact they didn't have much money and the parents were fat.

They also leave out how the poor are the most abused and taken advantage of in society.

@TheMijoAaron

5 жыл бұрын

How so? Not ignorant just curious.

@cadavison

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMijoAaron Payday loans, food deserts, abusive welfare/food stamps policies that humiliate and are inadequate, targeted advertising that makes them feel like losers so they eventually get worn down and try to pretend they are affluent by living on credit cards which they can never pay back, etc.

@LangBellsChannel

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMijoAaron After online shopping lots of retail stores ONLY offer part time jobs woth crazy schedules so they aren't obligated to give you any benefits and the schedule makes it impossible to go to job interviews. The money is JUST enough to make rent but it enough for bills, utility, and transportation to get to work. It also doesn't help when you have a parent who can't work and you're underage to work or needs YEARS of experience for an ENTRY level job.

@kylecyrus9457

5 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that's Native America, i mean they also tend to be poor but if we want to do justice to the word "Most" it seems right to specify

@bulaluigi

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMijoAaron the most desperate are the easiest to exploit

Shameless is about as realistic as photoshopped breast implants. Malcolm in the Middle actually does a pretty damn good job of lower middle class

@MrQuadro83

5 жыл бұрын

John Mista watch the original. Much more realistic and gritty.

@lorkhan8565

5 жыл бұрын

Uk shameless was much more realistic to a city council estate in Manchester/Saltford, obviously has some out there stuff for entertainment but it got its point across. Malcolm was fine too, i got the feeling they was just scraping by.

@MrQuadro83

5 жыл бұрын

Lorkhan Reed never seen Malcolm In The Middle. Might gave to give it a go though, because it has the brilliant Bryan Cranston in it.

@nope4909

4 жыл бұрын

You've never been poor then

@millaarmstrong1427

4 жыл бұрын

The fuck you live that has a "lower middle class"?

Shameles house: freezer is full, half dozen different cereals on fridge, fresh bananas on the counter, and it is huge and fully furnished - what are the markers of poverty there?

@tarod6699

4 жыл бұрын

Huge? Maybe for New York, I hear that stuff crazy expensive there but it looked small to me and my fridge was empty now and then growing up. And fully furnished? Craigslist has free furnishings, electronics... cloths, if your standards are low enough.

@heidimelcarek3677

4 жыл бұрын

With children in the house they would have SNAP and there are food pantries. Starvation isn't an issue. It's upward mobility that 'Murica lacks. Don't forget the obscene displays of wealth you can see anywhere on TV. By people who have done nothing to actually earn it.

@caitojones3140

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the dad character has like some greasy stubble and stuff. Guess being poor just affects your hygiene and fashion sense.

@prod.by3zko

4 жыл бұрын

I definitely would describe them as "working class" versus "impoverished," but the struggle in the show is still there...if overly applauded by audiences.

@LamesWivams

4 жыл бұрын

I mean the freezer and bananas make the most sense. When you are struggling with money it is better to buy 10 lbs of chicken at $0.69 a lb instead of 2 lbs at $3.29. So buying in bulk and reducing loss is essential. Bananas are .39 a lb where I'm at so they make for a cheap snack.

As someone who lives in poverty in a trailer in rural america. I can tell you that it's not just hollywood that misunderstands poverty. It's basically all aspects of society that misrepresent or misunderstand us. You have no idea what it is like until you live it. And honestly it's sad and annoying to have TV shows try to glamorize being poor. I don't think there's a single person in my trailer park that would refuse a chance to get out of this slum.

@TheAyanamiRei

5 жыл бұрын

^ Ignoring the fact that the #1 Reason you are rich, is because mommy and/or daddy were rich. Intelligence, Hard Work, and even Grades are NOT the #1 reason for being rich. The thing about being wealthy is it's not just all the money itself, but all the advantages of having wealthy parents buys you. Great example: Asians are stereotyped as being highly intelligent, yet those Asians from Poor Countries tend to have LOWER than average grades. The other big lie is that money will buy you happiness. Which it does, up until a certain point. Then if you continue to spend it selfishly after your needs and some of your wants are met....it no longer creates sustainable happiness. When you make 85k+ year and you're spending it selfishly, it becomes like a literal drug addiction, frequently needing a larger hit of money to get that same level of happiness. People also don't realize just how much WORK it can take to be poor. From things like dealing with Welfare Paperwork to things like not being able to afford to take vacations. If my parents want to take 1 or more weeks on vacation, they have to go camping, because they can't afford a hotel for that long.

@ajallen9674

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheAyanamiRei Time off itself is a hurdle. Minimum wage jobs will let you take off, but you won't be paid, which most people can't afford. I had to miss some family events this year because work didn't give me enough hours, and I'm not destitute.

@TheAyanamiRei

5 жыл бұрын

My Dad is self employed and gets 0 paid vacations, so I understand that. Which still doesn't disprove my point.

@Logrusmage

5 жыл бұрын

" don't think there's a single person in my trailer park that would refuse a chance to get out of this slum." Right, that's why they all graduated high school, refused to pick up any drug habits, and didn't have children before they were financially prepared.

@stephenm.stouter2238

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Goodrich see this is the kind of classism that people see all the time. Making one mistake doesn’t mean you “deserve” poverty. And people have kids, do you mean to say that only rich people should be allowed to reproduce? Or that people never have kids accidentally? Kind of hard to keep yourself from getting pregnant if you can’t afford birth control.

Malcom in the middle hit on poverty. The parents scraped by the entire show. Argued about working to support the family and every time they had another kid you saw how it changed there life. Do a re cap with that show.

@Guggu3d

6 жыл бұрын

Jasmine V Amazing show. Really underrated

@Fuctmentality

6 жыл бұрын

Jasmine V ,Malcolm in the Middle East pregnant the grittiest sitcom ever.

@FirstnameLastname-yk2js

6 жыл бұрын

That’s not poverty, most of these shows depict middle class or lower middle class ppl. Poverty is going to work without breakfast and or lunch, and working all day everyday.

@EgyptNile

6 жыл бұрын

Oh please ain't no one poor going to have a nice house like malcom on the middle

@EgyptNile

6 жыл бұрын

Julian Prieto very true

I just remember there was an episode of Shameless season 3 where Fiona talks about designer jeans she bought at Goodwill for “like $40”. And that made me so mad because a) you’ll be damn lucky to find $100+ designer jeans willy-nilly at a goodwill and b) they wouldn’t cost $40. I don’t even buy new jeans for $40.

@krashd

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, in the British Shameless that 40 dollars would have fed the Gallaghers for two months :D They really didn't capture the essence that this family were dregs at the bottom of society.

@RealStealthyNinja

5 жыл бұрын

I got some OK jeans at Vinnies (one of the Australian versions of Goodwill) for about $10aud. I wouldn't pay much more. I've got a few really nice short sleeved shirts too for about $5-7aud. I don't pay full price for clothes ever, except for underwear, socks and hats.

@bmo9881

5 жыл бұрын

Goodwill prices high end jeans about $3.00 higher than plain jeans lol. When I worked there a pair of Hollister jeans were $7, and a pair of a non-recognized brand were $4.

@makavelitrained2488

5 жыл бұрын

Idek think this bitch is going to a goodwill talkin bout one pair of pants for a bill

@sophiehatter3111

5 жыл бұрын

who the fuck spends 40 bucks on clothes you have food and bill problems

*"They Keep Telling Us That Money Doesn't Matter."* This was my biggest problem with The Princess and the Frog Tiana's mother was literally the best seamstress in New Orleans and yet her family was poor. But none of that matters because all she needed was *love*

@elissweet9589

4 жыл бұрын

Yet She didn't even ask for that

@daveindezmenez

4 жыл бұрын

Shows how certain jobs and someone's race can still keep one poor despite their talent.

@liamina3563

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I can let it slide with Princess and the Frog considering the target audience is kids who don't need to worry about financial problems just yet

@unprovenexistence9226

2 жыл бұрын

she was black in the deep south during 1900s america, did you expect her to be fabulously wealthy

@davidlucey1311

2 жыл бұрын

So much for the value of hard work

The real problematic depiction of glamorized unrealistic consumerism is HGTV. People getting enormous loans to buy and then immediately renovate their "dream home" - I love HGTV but it shows nothing but unattainable lifestyles and acts like that's something a normal person should want.

@hexadecimal5236

6 жыл бұрын

crazykenna I'm a cat whisperer and my husband makes pottery, our budget is 1.2 million.

@Matrim42

6 жыл бұрын

Rose BPOS in fairness, most of those shows are filmed in Canada, so 1.2 million in usd is more like 925k, but still.

@person2.022

6 жыл бұрын

House hunters is pretty much completely staged though. Like usually they already own the house, and the other houses involved are usually neighbors or family members houses

@SuperMrsuit

6 жыл бұрын

lmao soooo true

@pompe221

6 жыл бұрын

I watched a house hunting show from the UK and was absolutely stunned by the realistic houses the hunters were shown. Small, funny-shaped bedrooms; old kitchen fixtures and out-dated decor -- you'd NEVER see that on HGTV unless it was the "before renovation."

Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy an actual home with four walls and a roof, food, and general peace of mind in knowing that you won't be ostracized and looked upon with contempt as a human being because you don't have it.

@DJVARAO

5 жыл бұрын

So renting make you feel ostracized?

@theriffwriter2194

5 жыл бұрын

"whoever said money can't buy happiness is shopping at the wrong store" -Marilyn Monroe

@anna5214

5 жыл бұрын

Money can buy happiness it just can’t prevent sadness.

@krashd

5 жыл бұрын

"Money can't buy happiness" is just something comfortably complacent people say and should be ignored in the same way you would ignore someone in the first world trying to tell you what "real hunger" feels like. If you've ever been homeless, hungry or stuck in a rut with nothing to do you know that money could elevate your mood a huge amount. Only the most stupid of millionaires would ever say "Man, there's nothing to do on this planet..."

@Manj_J

4 жыл бұрын

Also you won't be at the mercy of your landlord your whole life, so you won't have to worry about being kicked out onto the streets at any time, and you won't need to worry about neglecting your health because you can't afford to buy even simple, over-the-counter cough syrup or sinus medication, what to speak of going to an actual doctor to get treated for more major health issues

That’s why I hated Friends. Amazing wealthy apartments and they you never saw them work. That was so my twenties (sarcasm)

@niveaulimbo6101

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the only ones who realy worked were chandler and ross, the rest should be incredibly poor

@dedi2s4vidz

4 жыл бұрын

@@niveaulimbo6101 that's only office work. Monica is a s chef working in a seemingly good restaurant. Joey is a struggling actor. But he did work playing as a doctor in a tv series. Rachel's dad is rich, tho he cut her allowance off, she can still sell branded items she owns, then she works, and she steadily improving. Only phoebe is really poor

@niveaulimbo6101

4 жыл бұрын

dedi2s4vidz yeah but monica is also jobless for a good time or works shitty jobs and joey beeing poor and bad with money is a recuring theme but it never has consequenzes

@nonamefound9296

4 жыл бұрын

@@dedi2s4vidz yet pheobe always had an apartment! Like...how?!

@losthope98

4 жыл бұрын

@@nonamefound9296 it was her grandmother's apartment if I recall correctly. Same thing with Monica - she got the rent controlled apartment from family

Anyone who has ever struggled with poverty knows how extremely expensive it is to be poor. James A. Baldwin

@undeadpresident

4 жыл бұрын

Capitalism is a system where the more wealth a person has, the easier it is to get more wealth, while if you don't have anything, the tables are tilted against you. And don't get me wrong, communism isn't any better. Capitalism vs Communism is a false dichotomy. Capitalism is monopoly via usury and communism is just straight monopoly and both are in effect dictatorial. Have to decentralize economics if it is to be more fair, not monopolize it. Things keep moving toward centralization however, bigger and bigger corporations, more and more totalitarian governments, organized world wide.

@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. It is so rare in any media to have a frank discussion about how the expense of poverty keeps people in it.

What about "2Broke Girls" being poor, and owning a horse? They confuse me.

@pixiebells

5 жыл бұрын

Samantha Peters I think it was supposed to be more for laughs than anything, but if she already owns the horse legally she just has to pay to take care of it.

@alvaroga1n

5 жыл бұрын

Well they just need to feed it soooo

@MarcellusGrey

5 жыл бұрын

Purchasing a horse is the easy part. The cost of stabling, feeding, vet bills and farrier are no joke.

@crowsynth2814

5 жыл бұрын

And the fact that both of them always are wearing nice clothes and makeup, and not ugly ass second hand/Wal-Mart shit and shitty drugstore eyeliner that’s run halfway down their face by noon. Trust me, I have experience.

@Forgefaerie

5 жыл бұрын

/looks at my shitty drugstore eyeliner i got for 3 bucks from nix. seems to be working just fine. I mean my $5 maybelline mascara is a little too waterproof and can be a pain to remove, but its not like its impossible to look nice with drugstore makeup, heck, a lot of the drugstore stuff has been pretty damn good lately. better then 50 dollar foundation salesgirl at sephora talked me into that I ended up returning cause it would flake in less then half an hour of wear, meanwhile my drugstore stuff, lasts the whole day. now I haven't seen the show so I don't know how they bought their clothes, but I tend to wear nice closes.. that I buy in thrifstores. its pretty amazing what you can find in a thirft store. anyways, broke=/=poor. and its a problem with Hollywood. they thing broke and poor is interchangeable, but its not. you can chose not to be broke, there is a leeway there. poverty - you cannot chose and there is no cushion. when someone is broke, they can cut down on expenses and do a bit better. when you are poor, you do not have anything you can cut, you are already counting every penny and still falling short.

The Middle, especially in it's earlier seasons, does a pretty decent job with depicting poor/middle class life. & it does it without making the characters jerks or gross.

@jamesd7606

6 жыл бұрын

apotheosis0111 Malcolm in the middle was pretty good about it too. Yes they made jokes about it, but they weren't about them being bad people or lazy. The parents worked hard to provide what they could.

@nutterztube

6 жыл бұрын

apotheosis0111 well Patricia is a conservative. So the show must have some standards about decency.

@NoJusticeNoPeace

6 жыл бұрын

The most realistic depiction of poverty I've seen so far is Trailer Park Boys. It's a slight exaggeration, but I've seen every one of the archetypes the characters represent in the real world in the rooming houses and slums I've lived in over the years.

@Comicsluvr

6 жыл бұрын

Sure, if everyone in Texas had good health care and knew when NOT to shoot guns...

@hush64

6 жыл бұрын

apotheosis0111 yea it looks more realistic and it's really funny still

My favorite cliche, the struggling family in a million dollar house. With the parents working middle class jobs

@hj2479

4 жыл бұрын

That's white ancestral money for you.

@accidentalmadness1708

11 ай бұрын

Nobody works a middle class job until the end of s3 and the only reason they have the house is because of shady bs involving a dead aunt. Are you acting ignorant on purpose or??

I was single teen parent. No child support. Got help til my son was 3 yrs and moved to Arizona. I went to school and worked at a daycare for min wage. I couldn't afford to take my kid there. I lived in a trailer until the electrical wires stopped working and I sold it. I moved in with a bf. He work 3 jobs and I worked 2. Eventually he got a good job and I found a full time job. We then broke up. I started binge drinking and getting into debt. I got sued. And my wages got garnished. They take 25% of my income before taxes. So I was single and with my poor son in highschool. He is a good kid. I eventually paid it all off. He went to a tech school and also got an associate's degree. And he was going to start working when he fell ill. So devastating. Thankfully he qualified for emergency medical and so now he's in remission. So now he's back home with me. He's working part time. I am $10,000 away from being debt free. And I can't wait. I bought 2 cars cash. After I pay my debt off I am going to start saving for a down payment on a home.

@OnkelFenrir

4 жыл бұрын

Good Luck!

@nonyab5640

4 жыл бұрын

OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY See you in hell

i hate when people say money can't buy happiness. literally all of my stress causing life problems could be solved with money. and it seems like being happy would be a lot easier if i wasn't terrified of student debt, struggling to make food money last, and having terrible relationships with my parents because of money. i don't think it would make me happy, but it would definitely make it possible.

@gabrielmartinez-ls5cp

5 жыл бұрын

It's part of the struggle, the worry of possibly not being alive the next day that makes today's life so bitter, yet also so sweet. I promise, if it weren't for rain, sunshine wouldn't feel so good. I've been dirt poor and I've had all my bills paid and needs taken care of with thousands of dollars to spend. The latter coming after me being without any of it. I can tell you with confidence that part of what keeps us alive is the drive stimulated by harsh conditions. Give thanks for the struggle my man, it's part of the balance.

@gabrielmartinez-ls5cp

5 жыл бұрын

Naseeb Dhaliwal some how you had the time to write this post though? What wifi are you using? What computer did you use? Or was it a smart phone? In the time you could've took to write that, you could've been working toward something. You're an example of what can happen if you don't embrace that struggle. You let it defeat you instead of letting it drive you. Everybody can do something about their situation. I used to blame the government too. But I grew tired of being tired. And found a way. Quit quitting.

@gabrielmartinez-ls5cp

5 жыл бұрын

Naseeb Dhaliwal yeah bro, I was that poor. I lived in a studio hotel. Studio meaning there is no rooms, just four walls and a bathroom with 6 brothers and my mom and dad. No stove, just a microwave. Eating whatever my mom could afford to buy everyday and shitty school food. 9 of us packed in a room no bigger than the average apartment living room. I lived an hour away by car from my school and we'd have to get up at 4 in the morning everyday so that my dad could take us all to school early so that my older brother could make it to his football practice. 0 period. At times we lived out of our car. We had no body to help us, even our parents were too old and sick to give us the extra attention we all needed to make sure we were doing well in school. I dropped out of highschool. But I stopped making excuses. Just cuz I grew up with nothing doesn't mean I have to live like that. I went back to school, got a diploma, found a job and worked. And I saved. And that's how I moved out, that's how i bought my own car, that's how I payed all of my own bills. Nobody paid mine for me. And that's how I had thousands in my account. You probably never had times as hard as hard as me let alone the people you were talking about. You always have a choice.

@gabrielmartinez-ls5cp

5 жыл бұрын

Naseeb Dhaliwal all I'm saying is that struggle can be a blessing. It can make you or break you. You can choose which it does to you.

@dakotaadams1432

5 жыл бұрын

Or getting caught into something that wasn't even your fault to begin with

This is why I miss Roseanne. That was a family that felt actually lower-middle class.

@88franko

6 жыл бұрын

watch Lucky Louie. That's a honest depiction of a fucked up lower working class family in New York

@sodaunderthesink9014

6 жыл бұрын

Evi1M4chine Because it's humorous?

@suddenkancho4968

6 жыл бұрын

A poor person with a TV sees the same things as the one without a TV. What's the point?

@teenygozer

6 жыл бұрын

No, I'm tired of rich Hollywood types showing us "fucked up" working class families. What was great about Roseanne is that they weren't fucked up, they were real. It's insulting that rich people assume the poor are horrible, disgusting, fucked-up people.

@LunarEdge7

6 жыл бұрын

Evi1M4chine Some people just like seeing plot that's relatable, relevant to them. See the ways the family in the show handles some issues that they themselves could've considered doing, or end up finding out they did the same exact method in handling the given situation.

We need to have economics and budgeting built into our school curriculum from grade school on, like English and Math.

@lauriedettelback2927

4 жыл бұрын

Shea Keenan Haare not met too many twenty somethings that are adept at money management.

@sakbrat1

4 жыл бұрын

@@lauriedettelback2927 Yes, that's why we need to teach it starting from childhood, on.

@undeadpresident

4 жыл бұрын

We need to have a war that is specifically designed to kill all the trash who believe what the politicians tell them, along with the politicians and their puppeteers. Then the country and world can be refreshed. How about that for an idea?

@tammywilson1638

3 жыл бұрын

We absolutely do, unfortunately our current system is primarily focused on indoctrinating our children to be good, obedient conforming consumers.

@personalspace6270

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great plan all around the world.

"Money can't buy happiness." Yeah keep saying that, I'm sure a lot more people would be happier if they could afford substantial food.

@theravenmonarch9441

5 жыл бұрын

dumpster diving: free clean and edible food.

@alize0623

5 жыл бұрын

CyanCyborg As a homeless child growing up, having stable housing where I didn’t have to be inside by 7PM or else I’d be on the street till morning would’ve definitely felt great.

@Lisekplhehe

3 жыл бұрын

Once you have financial security money does'nt matter. It's the question of utility, finding 10 dollars when you're broke, man, it feel good. But once you have 10k in your bank account, it doesnt really move you like it used to, money gets cheap.

@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj

4 ай бұрын

Yes, "money can't buy happiness" means that beyond a certain level of wealth, pursuing more wealth has diminishing psychological returns, not that poor people should be content with starving.

@cyancyborg1477

4 ай бұрын

@@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Hey I wrote this 5 years ago.

Sherlock shares an apartment that is practically given to him because of a favour he did for the landlady, oh yeah not to mention his brother runs the British government. I have no idea what he has to do with poverty.

@asafupps

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah well, he’s an exception

Being poor is the worse possible situation you can be in. “At least you have your health!” Actually poverty is directly linked to healthcare and subsequently, health. The poor have a shorter lifespan and are more likely to fall victim to crime. Money and credit is the only thing that matters in life. Like literally it’s either have money or suffer. I don’t like capitalism.

@shananagans5

5 жыл бұрын

OB G: You say poverty sucks, and it does. I recall sharing a 1 bedroom appt with 3 other women, we had 2 bunk beds and a wooden divider in the fridge but we could afford it. Me and a friend took all the same classes so we could share the books. I recall a time when all we had to eat in the house was a giant tub of peanut butter, a loaf of bread and a giant plastic barrel of pretzels. (think Costco) I recall counting my money & figuring how many dollars per day I had for the month and how panicked I was when $50 (that was a lot of money back then) went missing. Yes, being poor sucks but capitalism is the best system we have to get people out of poverty. My friend that I shared books with, had defected from the USSR. In her view, we weren't poor. Where she came from, 4 families shared an appt. They shared a kitchen, one bathroom, one "grand room" and each family had one private room to share. She was used to 15 or 16 people sharing a bathroom. She thought 4 sharing a bedroom was normal and she was elated that only 4 people had to share the bathroom & kitchen. She was amazed that even her part time min wage job could fill her belly. One hours pay could buy a basic meal and there was a choice of food at the supermarket. Our "poverty", our "sacrifice" our "hard times" to get ahead long term was as good as it got in the USSR. Getting out of school, getting that lucky job didn't mean better living in the USSR. You were still poor, you just went to work every day instead of school and you knew that's as good as life gets. There were no opportunities to move up. You were poor, everyone around you was poor & you knew you would be poor forever. I agree, poverty sucks, I think everyone agrees on that but it's not capitalism causing the poverty. When I was young we still had large numbers of people starving to death in China. Most of China didn't have electricity or clean water. Look at them now. Their economy is growing by leaps & bounds. Look at Russia. Thirty five years ago they had 4 families in one appt and they ate what the grocery stores just happened to have in stock. Now many are living like we do in the west because they are allowing capitalism in. Yea, capitalism sucks sometimes but it's the best system we have. Capitalism is getting millions of people out of poverty every year. Yea, the inequality sucks but it's better than just making everyone poor. Seriously, think about it. I see all these young people complaining & saying they hate capitalism but they have no idea what the alternatives really look like in practice.

@albannieparris1912

5 жыл бұрын

It's true that capitalism is a semi working system, and also true that it could be worse. But at the very top of that system, are people who could rid the entire world of poverty, and still have plenty for themselves. It's disgusting the way resources are unbalanced. The rich are always getting richer while the poor suffer. I just don't understand how people could be so cruel

@shananagans5

5 жыл бұрын

Albannie: How could the few richest people in the world cure poverty? The 100 richest people in the world have about a trillion dollars combined. If you divide that up by 5 billion poor people, that's only $200 each. Even if you go to the richest 500 or 1,000 people, it's just not enough to buy people out of poverty. Besides, just giving them a few hundred, or even a few thousand isn't going to get them out of poverty. What gets people out of poverty is a thriving market and productivity. If there is a thriving market and productivity, they can make money, the entire country, or region has jobs and products to make and sell and it is sustainable. They don't just get a one time gift of a few thousand, they get it over and over and over. When I wasa young girl in college the big thing was "don't buy products made in China" because the factories don't pay much. Well, those factory jobs paid more than other options they had. They made some money selling junk to us. Then they have some money, people start businesses to sell stuff to them. Now there are more businesses around those factories. That's more opportunity. Now the person in a little village can go work at the factory or they can work at a business that sells stuff to the factory workers. More and more people are getting employment. That grows the economy. That's how you get people out of poverty. The people that have billions, what do they do with that money? They invest it. Their billions back the new shoe factory, it gets loaned out so I can buy a house and employ the people building it. It's not like the super wealthy stick their money under the mattress so nobody else has access to it. Their money gets used to finance other businesses & grow the economy. Their being wealthy doesn't hurt others. There aren't poor people because some are rich & there isn't enough money to go around. People are poor because there isn't enough productivity. More productivity = more food & more products = people live better. I think people see socialism as a short cut to getting people out of poverty. Problem is, it goes against human nature. The key to getting people out of poverty is producing enough. Will people work hard to produce if they aren't going to benefit personally? Will they put in that extra effort if they get paid the same no matter how much they produce? What happens when everyone slacks off? There is no incentive & then everyone is poor. That's why so many socialist governments have gotten so strict & abusive. They can't increase productivity through reward so they turn to threats and force. In the US, how do we get people to clean out the sewers? We keep offering more & more money until someone says "heck yea, I will walk around in the sewer for $100/hr. How did they get those nasty jobs done in the USSR? There are not children that dream of growing up to work in the sewer. They had to force those jobs on people. Do it or go to the Gulag. Anyways, you get the picture, any society needs jobs filled that aren't so nice. Society needs more than the great jobs college students dream of. In a free country, those dirty jobs pay enough to where someone wants to do it. In socialism, people end up getting forced and that's not okay in my book. We have seen socialism fail over & over & over again at a huge cost in human suffering. We don't need to learn that lesson again. lol Sorry I rambled. Good Day!! Ms. Shannon

@CyanMedic

5 жыл бұрын

shananagans5 Genuinely, seriously thank you. These comments are superb. Socialism and communism are wonderful ideas in theory, but have been proven not to work. Seeing class disparity is terrible, but even taking every last dollar from the top 1% wouldn't put a dent in the debt most of the bottom 20% owe. Capitalism, for all its flaws, provides a class mobility (even in a limited form) that simply DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL in any other economic system. Yes, the system is rigged against you, but at least you get to fucking play the game at all. You are clearly a very intelligent woman. Bless you for putting this much effort into a freakin KZread comment, ahaha.

@Mechaghostman2

5 жыл бұрын

Pure capitalism is shit, as is pure socialism. Social Democracy like what all the other OECD countries are, and even to some extend what the USA is, is the best system. That's why just about every country with wealth has adopted it to some degree or another.

When I was a kid. My parents' income was lower than most other middleclasses. They couldn't afford luxery stuff that i saw at the other kid's houses. Even food sometimes was minimum. For the longest time, untill my 20's actually, i thought we were poor. (Compared to other houdeholds, we kind of were) Then i moved to America and I realized what poverty truly was. And i also realized we were fucking rich compared to a lot of people in the U.S. What I seen in the U.S. was a mixture of first world country and third world country. I never appreciated being a European more than at that moment. Naturally I moved my ass back to Europe because who wants to be poor when they have a choice.

@jackystar5099

4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about moving to Europe once I graduate college. Here people tend to shove their problems to the side. In LA there is a huge chunk of land called Skid Row. It's not on maps of LA even though technically it's part of it because Skid Row is where th homeless live. They yell for a better country when across the street there are people who need help not only financially but psychologically. I don't understand why they keep saying it's a great country when the unfortunate are thrown down and stepped on. Here you either live in extreme wealth or you live in extinction poverty. Let's not forget that the gap between lower class higher class is becoming bigger. I'm sure all places have problems but I don't feel like living in a hypothetical country.

@ElTokeMaestro

4 жыл бұрын

Chica Loca you don’t know what you are talking about probably you were rich in your country I didn’t knew it

@barbarasilva9346

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackystar5099 I'm portuguese, but moved to Switzerland because I wanted a better life. You probably won't get rich in Europe, but at least you have good healthcare, acess to good education, food on the table, you can have a decent car and house, nice vacations once a year, a little bit money on the side for a rainy day... Yeah, no country is perfect! But at least I feel safe and happy here. My dad spend 3 weeks on holiday in Newark (if I remember it correctly) and told me it was a mixture of 1st world and 3rd world countries. He also went to New York, he told he didn't understand all the hype about America and he didn't feel safe. Not to offend anyone! He just didn't like it, he said it was to loud and smelly. A piece of advice, research about the countries to see what appeals you the most and try to come here with a job lined already. It's way easier that way! Be prepared for differences. Most people speak english nowadays, but it's nice if you learn the local language. Here in Switzerland most people speak very basic english, the bigger the city the better the english. In Portugal is mandatory to study English in schools, at least 5 years minimum, I had 13 years I think (I had English in university too). I think it's way easier in terms of paperwork to enter Europe, comparing to the Us... You have a lot of information on the internet that helps. Good luck! ;)

@egeniojaramillo9048

4 жыл бұрын

Oh please.

@AuroraLalune

4 жыл бұрын

@@barbarasilva9346 that sounds rich to me. 40 plus hours a week better half does and since kiddo doesn't do well in public school etc and I am disabled anyway so can't sustain full time work at an actual job- we homeschool. One income. We have roommates to help make ends meet. In my state this is so common your basically rich if you don't need roommates. A lot of rich people get them as a luxury instead. CPS bullies the poor arbitrarily and often using being poor in of itself- against people even when there has been no wrongdoing etc. Happens a lot. It's hell. Yeah. This country has problems. Nice to know some people have the luxury to leave though.

I just lost my job because I got heatstroke and can't be in the high temps (47 degree celsius for five hours of a thirteen hour shift dishwashing at a popular eatery.); just got rent and bills paid off, bills paid from last time I lost my job, from being assaulted by a coworker, which physically wrecked my hand, and kept me from doing anything physical for a month. So now I gotta find a job with no money, no heat capacity, so no kitchen jobs, got a record from protesting big oil, so no cushy call centre jobs. I'd kill myself, but then my cat would get really depressed. This is what being fucking poor is.

@kriskater

5 жыл бұрын

learrus hang in there man

@trinityfrank2526

5 жыл бұрын

I hope you're doing better

@samdumaquis2033

4 жыл бұрын

How are you doing ? I hope the best for you

@cynthiavr1

4 жыл бұрын

Lots of hope and prayers for you. Hope you’re doing much better.

@smilenowsmileforever4226

4 жыл бұрын

@Juicelad I would have spit at her feet

"the Middle" has real life down to a tee. from the house, to the offbrand sodas. it's a great show

@d.leighannbatemon3192

4 жыл бұрын

We love The Middle! Even though sometimes it hits a little too close.

@LeglessWonder

4 жыл бұрын

Yep! Love that show!

@iambicpentakill971

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic show. Agreed on the real life.

It's the same kind of thing that offers the (wrong) idea that poor people are lazy and take advantage of the system...

@TaurionMartell

5 жыл бұрын

Ortu Ignis but they are

@SFtheflash

5 жыл бұрын

Taurion Martell Working two minimum wage jobs which is what a lot of poor people do isn’t exactly what I would call lazy

@phatdookie4207

5 жыл бұрын

Not only that but it is a long and difficult road to get on disability and a lot of people who deserve it go without it for a long time. Plus lower paying jobs pay less into social security so low income people only making 7 or 8 dollars an hour have to work a lot longer to get social security "work credits" than someone who makes 50 dollars an hour. Also people's work may be hinder or even stopped if they have to take care of a child or older person or disabled person. So there are a lot of reasons why a person may be poor.

@SirMorganD

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, that sound more of a rich people profile. huh, really makes you think.

@phatdookie4207

5 жыл бұрын

Antonio Perales completely agree! A lot of people like to complain about poor people getting food stamps or ebt but they were silent when the government handed out billions of dollars in bail outs. The few people with tons of money/power want us all fighting over crumbs! But I'm tired of it. We deserve our piece of the pie.

Whoever says that "money can't buy happiness" doesn't understand Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. If physiological and security/safety needs are not met, then a person has a really hard time fulfilling the other needs like relationships and feelings of accomplishment. And self actualization, forget about that. That need is fulfilled only when other needs have been met. Money helps you to resolve the basic needs so that you have time for relationships, hobbies and personal reflection and self determined destiny. Money buys the path to happiness. Now, buying joy, that is entirety different. You can have joy even when you're broke, that comes from the lord Jesus.

@Tima-oz5te

5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU, I think about this all the time!!

@512TheWolf512

5 жыл бұрын

There is no god

@clownworldhereticmyron1018

4 жыл бұрын

Christianity is a scam to pacify downtrodden people because of an empty promise of "heaven" in the "next life"

@DarkEagle-vx9hd

4 жыл бұрын

If you don't believe in God/ Jesus, deal with that stupidity on your own. But have respect for other people's beliefs.

@AuroraLalune

4 жыл бұрын

You were correct until you involved religion. That's a no.

You can say Money can't buy happiness When u have money

shameless always bugged me because i always wondered why they dont have food stamps..like you know frank would totally make that one of his scams lol.

@colleenfinnell8997

6 жыл бұрын

imafake2807 They did have food stamps in the beginning. But then Fiona got custody of the kids, and they starting getting older, and after she went to prison after Liam got ahold of her coke, she didn't get them anymore for whatever reason. I guess they just dropped the storyline...?

@SakuraMoonflower

6 жыл бұрын

It's because Frank is on disability. He already gets money for that. They won't give him much more. :/

@happyperson7990

6 жыл бұрын

Colleen Finnell you spoiled it for others but luckily im past those episodes.

@yumri4

6 жыл бұрын

you also get less money on disability if you do not take food stamps making it incentive for people who are on disability to sign up for food stamps even if they do not need them just for the $20 to $150 they take away as you have "income" enough to afford your own food so if the person is barely able to afford food enough that they do not need to be on food stamps but they cannot take the income hit they will stay on food stamps to not take the hit to their supplemented income till they are able to make enough that they will make $300+ more than enough to pay for food and drink and the hit to their income

@tiagosanchez2036

6 жыл бұрын

Illegal financial advise @5:14😂😂😂

When people say that money didn't buy happiness I reply with " have you ever thrown a billion dollars to a homeless guy? No? didn't think so."

@robm5581

6 жыл бұрын

Austin Baker-Carnley, neither have you....

@Kronos-1215

6 жыл бұрын

Rob M an I correct to assume that you're trying to argue that a homeless guy would not be happy if you have him a billion dollars?

@robm5581

6 жыл бұрын

Austin Baker-Carnley, fuck if I know. I'm not a homeless guy. I was just pointing out that you've never given a homeless person a billion dollars either, so it makes your original comment meaningless. In fact, I was just going to repeat it to you at first, but I didn't want to seem like a parrot.

@Kronos-1215

6 жыл бұрын

Rob M Ahhhhhh, I see where the argument is coming from. you assumed I was making the statement from the billion dollars pov. In actuality I was making the statement from the homeless pov. I've been homeless and I WOULD be happy is someone threw a billion dollars to me.

@robm5581

6 жыл бұрын

Austin Baker-Carnley, well I think even a millionaire would be happy with a billion dollars.

I was too stupid to realize I was in poverty. My mom would tell us not to tell her that she was hungry because it stressed her out.(Which should of been a sign) If there was nothing else to eat in the house I'd eat bread and sugar. Also sugar water. It makes me almost throw up thinking about it.

@chinasannamani9685

2 жыл бұрын

"butter sandwich" "ketchup sandwich" it was pretty bad

To be fair, Sherlock’s brother *is* the British government, so he kinda gets a pass when it comes to money tbh

To me, being poor is the most expensive lifestyle because prices don't change. Gas still costs the same and so does bills and food. Everthing costs the same but you have less money to spend on the necessties and entertainment.

@KonyMyHero

6 жыл бұрын

Evi1M4chine Well ya know a lot of rich people didn't get rich by just doing nothing if you want money it takes work.

@Ceares

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, the work of squeezing your way out of your rich mother's womb. A lot of rich people actually did get rich by doing nothing but being born to wealthy parents. Some of them increased that wealth but with opportunities afforded to them by having the background in the first place. Things like family loans to start businesses, being able to get higher degrees without worrying about working or debt after, being able to take unpaid internships that get your foot in the door, etc...

@Valentine-kx7fk

6 жыл бұрын

Rich Plantain fam you do realise people like Donald Trump didn't... work for their money.

@LoganNinefingers

6 жыл бұрын

Harleen meet inflation, inflation meet Harleen

@GibsonGuy0707

6 жыл бұрын

+Ceares If you're looking for pure equality, then you'll be searching forever. There's no such thing.

Are... are we the shadow people?

@Hotcinnamon1112

6 жыл бұрын

Michael de Boer lol

@chrisgarcia6098

6 жыл бұрын

Yes

@MariaThePotterNut

6 жыл бұрын

Does that make him the Shadow Man?

@Chilcutte

6 жыл бұрын

I am! That or a toaster I am undecided

@GhengisJohn

5 жыл бұрын

YesssSSSSssssSSSsss...

Everybody hates Chris presents poverty well.

@mobychoc

4 жыл бұрын

They sure were happy a lot of times for being poor

@Pomagranite167

4 жыл бұрын

Not everyone is miserable and poor. Some ppl just live life not knowing it gets any better than that. Plenty of ppl who are poor or are in poverty still experience things like love and having a family, which can bring about happiness, even though you dont jave a lot. For ppl who have never had much, they are just used to it. It's just their life. Some ppl are poor and miserable. Miserable especially if they've experienced money before. And some ppl are just poor.

@cabrondemente1

4 жыл бұрын

The clothing says otherwise.

@d.leighannbatemon3192

4 жыл бұрын

@@mobychoc my husband grew up incredibly poor, and he said it wasn't until he got to high school that he realized other kids didn't get free lunches, or community Santa Christmas gifts. With his first paycheck he bought his first shirt from a store himself, and still owns that shirt today because he was so damn proud to own something that wasn't a hand-me-down from neighbors or a thrift store find. His parents had both grown up bouncing around foster care homes, and swore they'd give their children better lives than they had. The cycle of poverty is hard to break, though, and two of my husband's siblings have taken steps back from the progress their parents gave them. Still, my husband always says he had a really happy childhood.

@prod.by3zko

4 жыл бұрын

@@cabrondemente1 To be fair, if you get lucky at some thrift stores and buy things on sale, you can have a pretty fly wardrobe and be poor. I know people out here who save up scraps just to waste hundreds of dollars on a pair of nice shoes to stunt. It's wasteful but they manage to do it. Clothes don't say everything anymore.

TBH Daredevil's apartment is across the street from a flashing neon sign which he explains why the apartment is cheap

@HAWXLEADER

4 жыл бұрын

Light might not annoy him but what about the buzz?

Shameless is great, but yeah, there is a lot of Ex Machina that saves them from their collective financial woes. Also...side point... Am I the only one who can't understand why so many beautiful girls are constantly THROWING THEMSELVES at Lip? Lip???

@RosscoAW

6 жыл бұрын

Lip's funny, smart, capable of empathy, and confident. Confident intellect is really what it comes down to. (note confidence =/= ego or arrogance or whatever "masculine" forms of confidence are normal)

@frozenaorta

6 жыл бұрын

RosscoAW He's also like 5'7", has no chin, smokes more cigarettes than God, and occasionally looks like he's brain damaged. Now, I'm not trying to shallow or superficial here -- but you know what demographic often IS shallow and superficial? Cute little high school and college girls. Very much so. So why do they all act like Lip is the last man on the planet? Lol. Just saying.

@tashmirajoseph7389

6 жыл бұрын

Hey I would fuck lip. He's attractive to me if we're talking about looks not personality.

@frozenaorta

6 жыл бұрын

Tony Roa I swear my girlfriend made that exact joke! Haha. Think she said "peanut butter flavored dick," though. Together, you guys are trying to make his crotch into a Reese's cup.

@BillyJoe1305

6 жыл бұрын

I know a guy who's basically lip. Ugliest man I've ever met, super douchebag and not financially stable (no longer on probation though so, win) yet he pulls ass like you wouldn't believe. I've known him long enough now though that the situation just seems normal to me.

My idea is that it's a conspiracy to influence the future generations of wealthy people to think that people in poverty are not only unintelligent, but also morally reprehensible people whose downtrodden condition needn't worry those in better off conditions because people in poverty don't deserve help. Just a thought.

@nutterztube

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm... Hollywood indoctrination? What's that?

@LeisureSuitL

6 жыл бұрын

You mean like, deplorable even?

@o.cowdery4675

6 жыл бұрын

That's the oldest trick in the book. Big part of eugenics in the 20's was breeding out the "genes" that cause poor decision and thus cause poverty: laziness, drinking, gambling, smoking, idiocy. The poor are genetically inferior, is what they thought. Some people still do.

@isaiahfisher2337

6 жыл бұрын

It's way simpler than that. It's just a justification for themselves. It's the rich creating their own world in which the poor deserve to be poor and the rich deserve to be rich. Where every penny the rich make is "earned", and doesn't in any way harm the lives of others. A world in which the poor are not really THAT bad off. It's a justification for greed, predatory economics, and capitalism. I don't even think it's a conscious choice. I think it's the story that the wealthy tell themselves so they can sleep at night.

@DanLaw559

6 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head.

Growing up, my parents really struggled financially and the only show I could or can associate with from that point of view is Malcolm in the Middle. They got the tone and situations of being poor spot on. Also, amazing show so so underated!

Shameless doesn't make poor people look like dicks, it just shows how individual people can do bad things just like the rest of us. There are plenty of rich and poor people who do good things in the show e.g Youens, financial aid guy's friend who gave money to lip, Dominique's dad helping Carl, Sheila helping the Gallagher kids etc. Also plenty of richer people doing bad things eg racist lemonade lady, doctor at the parking barrier, Ford, Margo etc.

The 7 dwarfs are some of the richest characters in any Disney movie, no one makes them go to the mine and they keep all the diamonds

Daredevil has a nice apartment because the apartment gets a lot of light pollution and tenants can't sleep in it. He can because he's blind. This was explained right in the show.

@Noah-fn5jq

6 жыл бұрын

That was a nice fiction. In reality people would rent that regardless of the neon sign if the rent was *slightly* less. DD still couldn't afford it.

@hexadecimal5236

6 жыл бұрын

icefrout Light pollution??? Anyone who's lived in a big city knows light has value and is not a detractor. I remember them saying that and how bs it was.

@Matrim42

6 жыл бұрын

icefrout Yes, because a corner apartment in Midtown Manhattan is suddenly affordable because of a neon sign. I'm sorry, but in no world is that believable.even if the apartment cost half of what it otherwise would, it would be exorbitantly expensive.

@CrossFireGundam

6 жыл бұрын

It's still a New York apartment. I got a cousin in Boston who pays 1.6k for a two bedroom. Light pollution or not, it's gonna be that price or higher a month not including utilities and luxuries.

@CottonCandySharks

6 жыл бұрын

icefrout Light blocking curtains

Florida project is maybe the best representation i have seen of poverty

I’m always surprised to see so callled poor people on TV living in houses twice the size of mine

The reason why poverty issues aren't portrayed much in television or film is fairly straightforward: it sucks and it's depressing and people watch stuff to forget how much real life sucks, not be reminded of it. If makes for a much more compelling story if it seems like that baseline wealth to pay the bills and put food on the table is guaranteed and the characters can worry about more interesting things.

@azmah1999

5 жыл бұрын

Sérgio Alves The problem addressed in this video is not that poverty isn't a part of Hollywood's productions but that when it is, it is mostly done poorly. I'm 100% with you when you say that poverty sucks and we watch TV or films to escape reality (which includes poverty) thus it is normal that those shows don't treat the subject. But I think we both agree that when Hollywood talks about poverty it's done poorly (pun intended). And that's the message of this video: Hollywood trivialize poverty like only dumb people and criminal are poor and that it's really easy to get out of this misery when in fact it isn't.

@LittleMsShine

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the consequence to that is the general public's ignorance on things like welfare (aka thinking that people can abuse it and not have a job, or not understanding how bad the threshold is for welfare, so bad that many people have to cut down the number of hours they work in order to not pay thousands in health insurance, causing them to not be able to save any money to get themselves out of their situation), and all of this bad thinking leads to bad policy "reforms"

funny comparison! when i watch it I always think to myself "this is like a rich person's idea of what it would be like to be poor. not really a richh rich person, but a middle class person that tries to fit in with the "super poors" hahhaa

@jacobseaton1227

6 жыл бұрын

Jackal Unleashed i would say what a rich person would think what being poor is like

@Nionivek

6 жыл бұрын

Frankly even cracked doesn't know what being poor is like and SEEMS to believe it is some sort of continuous state of victimhood / martyrdom.

@lolellakou

6 жыл бұрын

Jackal Unleashed an

@Caitlin_TheGreat

6 жыл бұрын

Okay, not a directly reply to the topic of this conversation, just wondering what the heck is up with these "people" who reply to someone with a single letter/symbol, or in this case a two-letter article. I've been seeing it all over youtube for the last year or so and it's kind of bugging me. Is it someway of "marking" someone? Or are there that many people who go to type a comment and then almost immediately hit "save" / "reply" whatever to post their grossly incomplete reply? Or are these bots doing some weird bot thing?

@mrclueuin

6 жыл бұрын

Nionivek Sometimes it is. Or do you believe that other people don't take advantage of other people? I for one find that being poor sucks about 45% of the time. Mostly because some rich people think we're supposed to be stupid and try to take advantage of that idea. It's soooo irritating! 😫

The only realistic movie on poverty that I watched is Pursuit of happyness

@ultravioletpisces3666

5 жыл бұрын

Well sort of because he's got pluck and a can do attitude so he lifts himself up by his bootstraps...

@alvarolopez656

5 жыл бұрын

Hah! Let me pursue my dream, son, while we sleep in a public toilet instead of finding a goddamn job that can feed you.

@96Alexandros96

5 жыл бұрын

The director is italian, italian movies have a different history.

@HarmonySword

4 жыл бұрын

It does help that it's based on a true story instead of something Hollywood had to make up.

@lloydhudson6463

4 жыл бұрын

@@ultravioletpisces3666 You really think that was his story? If someone didn't give him a chance, he never would have made it out of poverty. When people say, someone lifted themselves up by their bootstraps, they act as if the person did it singlehandedly, that's simply not the case. There's a lot more to most of these stories than meets the eye, don't be fooled by the show.

Taking away cultural differences between being poor in one country versus another, it always bothered me how TV would completely overlook the basics. Things like the fact people would rather sell their stuff or take extra job on the side than have their electricity cut off. The fact that you will wear same clothes, won't have proper winter heating and won't own a car if you are poor. And most importantly that living in conditions like this for years fundamentally changes the way you make decisions. I came from a family that lived on the verge of poverty for years. I can always tell if someone came from a struggling family if I can observe them shopping. You always think that what you buy is the last thing you will buy beacuse money might run out. You constantly amass things in case of bad times coming. I check the shoes I buy to a point where I won't buy them unless I can assume I will get at least 3 years of wearing them. I always calculate how much the price changes based on the ammount of detergent I buy. I buy clothes out of season because if you look for winter clothes in the summer you can get them a lot cheaper. For the longest time I would never go to cafes or buy food while on the plane cause in my head those were unnecessary luxuries. I am not even touching upon families that struggle with addictions or being stuck in poverty due to generations growing up poor unemployed and relying on social. It was interesting for me to see how people who never experience this view being poor. I know that if I ever become poor again I can survive and I know people who came from affluent families that are scared to death by the prospect. I, on the other hand, will always aim low with certain decisions. I would never buy a huge flat or make a big investment out of fear of falling into poverty again and not being able to sustain myself.

You know what also annoys me in cinema and TV? The depiction of "small towns." Hollywood has ZERO idea of what it's like to live in a small town let alone what a small town even looks like? Anyone catch how Rosewood, PA on Pretty Little Liars was CONSTANTLY referred to as a small town? Bitch, please.

@possumridgeentertainment4614

6 жыл бұрын

Amen. There aren't many shows set in Missouri. Grace Under Fire (St. Louis), Petticoat Junction (in-universe never stated but Hooterville was based on the small town of Eldon, MO and the Shady Rest was inspired by a hotel in that town), Mama's Family (again, never stated, but the town in that show was based on a town in MO), and Ozark (not too far from Hooterville's inspiration). Maybe My Name Is Earl, since it took place in Camden County, which the setting for Ozark is also in Camden County, but I've heard it said that there's a Camden County in every state in the nation. But with the exception of those shows, although Petticoat Junction got dangerously close, every time you see the stretch of land between St. Louis and Kansas City depicted it's just a handful of trailers and rundown houses with a greasy spoon truck stop or a highway rest stop at the center. And the people in those houses and trailers, when depicted, are always shown as the worst of the worst. Meth cooks, moonshiners, serial killers, welfare queens who keep popping out kids to collect benefits, do the bare minimum to keep them alive to keep bringing in benefits, and otherwise neglect them, etc. It's like the folks in California think that civilization stops at Kansas City and resumes at St. Louis. Oh, there IS Branson, though. The locals there are depicted as above, but the town overall is depicted as Vegas for the 80+ crowd. Never mind the fact that Maple Leaf Rag, The Entertainer, Brad Pitt, Sheryl Crow, Ozark Mountain Daredevils (known for Jackie Blue and If You Wanna Get To Heaven), Ferlin Husky, and Harry Truman all came from Missouri, along with one of the Kentucky Headhunters.

@lisilein2

6 жыл бұрын

Every small town I've seen in Hollywood productions so far is a f** city by my standards. Try growing up in a 1000 people town (yup that is still considered a town where I come from) were most of the population is over fifty...

@possumridgeentertainment4614

6 жыл бұрын

A population of 1,000+ is a city by my standards. I grew up just outside of a village of 81 (until the last census, when it was updated to 91), went to school in a town with a population of 650, basically going to the big city meant going to a town with a population of around 4,000 year round residents (not counting the people who have summer homes here). If you've seen Ozark on Netflix, which I've been told by coworkers is an accurate depiction of the town (even though it was filmed in Georgia), that will give you an idea of what the big city was to me growing up.

@glennso47

6 жыл бұрын

Possum Ridge Entertainment Don’t forget Andrea Burkhart, famous for being my wife for 43 years and not going insane! She’s from Versailles, MO

@possumridgeentertainment4614

6 жыл бұрын

Kai Evans I suspect we might be neighbors. Dollar General stores have been popping up all over the place, but the timing of the opening of the DG in my little speed bump and your comment about it being the first real store in town are a bit too much of a coincidence. If that's the case I can't help you on cable, since I've never really been interested enough to check into it, but there are options for phone service. There's a company operating out of Iberia that offers internet and VOIP phone service. There are some around Osage Beach that also offer it, but do your research before picking one because a lot of them are fly by night operations.

I agree with this nut Sherlock is an awful example they repeatedly state that he's living there basically for free because he got the landlady husband to take the fall in her place after her cartel colapsed

@Rhaifha

6 жыл бұрын

And his family is loaded

@RonponVideos

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. And in How I met your Mother, there was a whole episode about how Lily was trying to find a new apartment and it was a shithole. You could argue that the Ted/Marshall apartment is too big for their funds, but Ted IS an architect, plus you need to suspend disbelief a bit in favour of, you know, having a set that isn't 15'x10'.

@Mandechuva

6 жыл бұрын

Cmkidd Everyone in every show has an excuse for how the live in homes they obviously can't afford. The bullshit excuses we get don't really justify the fact that almost everyone in media lives beyond their means.

@reydemagival

6 жыл бұрын

The point is Sherlock is a bad example because his family is loaded and his brother is literally the British Government.

@teenygozer

6 жыл бұрын

I don't believe it was her drug cartel, they said her drug lord husband was guilty and Sherlock made sure he was convicted. Mrs. Hudson had all the passwords to the overseas accounts, so with her husband in jail (I got the feeling it was a death-penalty case) she came out of it rich. We don't find out how rich until that last episode when she shows up in the most expensive car in the universe. Now you're making me want to watch it again to check if it was her drug cartel! I wouldn't have thought Sherlock would have helped her if she was the owner of the cartel rather than a somewhat innocent by-stander.

The British film "Full Monty" is a pretty good representation of poor life in UK during the shutting of things like steel factories and coal mines in Thatcher's reign of terror, but it's a little dated now, still a good film to watch though

@AJ-cv9zf

4 жыл бұрын

Good days.

@iambicpentakill971

2 жыл бұрын

My wife got me to watch it, and it was legit good.

Hollywood's unrealistic? Who would've thought?

@hj2479

4 жыл бұрын

Tony stark from iron man 1 to iron man 2 might have been realistic when depicting his wealth/popularity. I believe that while shutting down his weapons manufacturing department negatively impacts his stocks short term, Him coming out as ironman who is now a national hero and insanely popular among the people helped get more investors into his business and the fact that he uses his arc reactor technology for starting energy production commercially also helps boost his profits. While doing all this he is also working on defense contracts secretly with the government which I reckon made him even more money. despite all this, if you listen to his girlfriend and ex-secretary/current CEO of Stark industries, she is always informing him of the immense losses the company is going through due to his poor decisions but he does not care because his father left him personally with tons of wealth to use however he pleases.

@undeadpresident

4 жыл бұрын

Americans would have thought, but they were watching TV and so the thought didn't come to them because they were told what to think by their TV programming.

I'd say that the Middle is the most accurate depiction of a middle/mid lower class family I've ever seen on TV, followed by Malcolm in the Middle (though its inconsistent usage of continuity kind of helps with the amount in damages/hospital bills the boys probably rack up) and then Roseanne (save for the latter seasons) and also probably Married With Children. In Married With Children they actually do have a somewhat decent looking house though but they lack pretty much everything else, even basic shit like food and Al's unbelievably reckless when it comes to how he speaks to customers considering the fact that his job is the only thing keeping him and his family going as is. But yeah I can't really name any other shows off the top of my head that depict even an average normal family well, let alone a sub poverty line one.

@AlexaBellaMuerte

6 жыл бұрын

Knoxville Nuggins agreed great examples

@Kelly-se7cq

6 жыл бұрын

Roseanne is a perfect example of a middle class or lower middle class household

@interestingcommentbut....7378

6 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of that episode of Married... with children where they scrape the bottom of the toaster 😂

@TheCyberwoman

6 жыл бұрын

What's weird is that most of those shows depict average, but compared to what average is depicted like in the rest of media they look like absolute poverty. My family, and most of the families I knew lived like that.

@dr.strange5419

5 жыл бұрын

Knoxville Craggins the start of Breaking Bad was really good at depicting how crippling health care is financially and how a middle class man working as a highschool teacher did not make enough. Plus he drove a pretty a pretty sub par Pontiac Aztec lol

the dwarfs mined pre cut diamonds and gems... how the fuck are they poor?

@gleep1984

6 жыл бұрын

And as far as I remember, were self employed.

I'm sure I'll be accused of overthinking, but I study folklore and, by proxy, cultural narratives. What is a cultural narrative? Well, it's what we tell ourselves when we see a white guy walking down an alley at 3pm vs. what we tell ourselves when we see a black guy walking down an alley at 3pm (at least in terms of the white cultural narrative). And a big part of the cultural narrative about poverty is derived from religion: the Protestant work ethic. See, the narrative for hundreds of years was that if you were poor, it was because you deserved it. You were lazy, immoral, and lacking in faith; therefore God was punishing/humbling you. And there was a weird little perk that despite being poor and lazy and faithless, you were more moral than the rich. Somehow. So the rich would have more difficulty getting into Heaven, but suffering here on Earth would get you into the VIP line. Therefore, it was paradoxically both better and worse to be poor, depending on the conversation. If you needed a handout, you were poor and lazy. But if it was bad to be poor, it was great to be poor because heaven! Despite America becoming less religious, that cultural narrative is still with us and holds a lot of power. It's why you're more likely to hear people complain about the $4 they pay per year into food stamps than the $400 they pay into corporate welfare. It's also a very convenient way to code racism: Americans really, REALLY don't like the idea of getting free stuff if it means the black or brown family down the road gets it, too. The narrative of spiritually rich/financially poor gives us someone to blame, which is a way bigger cultural narrative in the West, but that's a story for another time.

@ladytalksalot4097

4 жыл бұрын

People's issue with food stamps isn't that a black guy is getting their money for food. It's that the government forces them to give up that money under threat of imprisonment and gives it to people of all colors who frequently abuse it. I worked at a gas station for over 2 years. And guess what? I would see every person on the frickin' rainbow buying $70 worth of cigarettes while an EBT card poked out of their wallet. Am I judging them for being poor? No. I was poor then, and I'm still poor now. I do however judge them for spending more money on cigs than I do on weekly groceries. If they weren't spending their own cash on cancer sticks, they wouldn't need my money for food. Racism isn't the issue. I just don't want to fund someone else's bad habit. And by the way "Puritan suffering mentality" isn't why people have a warped perception of poverty. It's because the people making these movies/shows have never struggled in their lives. The concept of not being able to afford a loaf of bread and jar of peanut butter just doesn't compute and it reflects in their output. One could also argue there's influence from that fact that most modern producers are Boomers who, "pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps," back when the economy was flourishing so they also can't compute working their butts off and not getting a McMansion out of it. It's not suffering on earth = heavenly blessings, so much as "Wait, what do you mean they live on only 40k a year? Is that even possible? Why don't they just work their way up to CEO in a year and retire to their private island?"

@cynthiavr1

4 жыл бұрын

Droemar, I would for sure see a video of you explaining this. It's really interesting and also applies to other countries. I see that every day in Mexico. The rich population always blaming the poor for being like that as if it was something they'd choose and didn't work hard enough.

@thisiswheezie

4 жыл бұрын

True, the Protestant work ethic paints the narrative that the poor are God's chosen people and that suffering is his way of morally purifying them before lifting them out of poverty with their own blessed hard work, while the rich can be hardworking but lose it all in a day in complacency and hubris. I think it's more about the volitility in earthly wealth that is emphasised and to trust God whether rich or poor and wait on his blessing.

I love how i met your mother but lets be real here, that point where ted loses his job at a big architecture firm and then gets to "start his own business" isnt realistic or even that bad, ted has had an upper middle class upbringing, has a college degree, and if he works for a big architecture firm in nyc then you know he is making big bucks and then he lands a gig as a professor, and a TENURED professor at a big college i might add, so he instantly lands a secured teaching gig and never worries about paying bills at any point of his life

I never thought the Shameless house was shabby enough. It's honestly pretty nice for the neighborhood they're supposed to be in(you know, that magical 98% white ghetto). It's like the set designers think it just takes some ugly thrift store furniture and a few piles of laundry laid about to make a family look "poor". They also always seem to have very trendy clothes in basically brand new condition. Like most big cities, thrift stores in Chicago probably aren't cheap. The Gallaghers probably couldn't afford to constantly be shopping for cool new clothes every season.

@ChrissaTodd

6 жыл бұрын

Carter Pewterschmidt not every shabby house is the same level of shabby

@cheesecake134

6 жыл бұрын

Chrissa Todd Well no, of course not. BUT the Gallaghers have often talked about how crappy their house is. It even majorly failed an inspection when it had gone up for auction. They SAY it's basically a tear down, yet it doesn't really look that bad.

@Nionivek

6 жыл бұрын

The Poor in America aren't as "Poor" as people would assume. Many of them can still afford things like satellite television and other amenities. There is a difference between Poor and "On the streets".

@cheesecake134

6 жыл бұрын

Nionivek No one is saying for them to be realistically poor they have to live in a cardboard box wearing rags. But it's also not realistic for them to have near brand new, trendy clothes all the time either. It's about finding the correct balance.

@paulmancini9381

6 жыл бұрын

That "magical 98% white ghetto" is based on real life canaryville in Chicago which is poor and 90% white.....

I only found out that length of account affecting your credit score thing this year. I had an old account that was threatening to close due to lack of use and I was going to let it close until a co-worker told me not to. We really need to do better educating people about credit. I still have friends who think a 0 credit score is a good thing and wont be persuaded otherwise.

@reinaweinstock7297

6 жыл бұрын

So true! While I was in college my friends thought I was crazy and reckless for having a credit card!! (yes, it could be dangerous but I was careful) But here we are just graduated and I have a great credit score and many of them are trying to rent their first apartment and can't. Definitely need to teach more about credit and loans in school.

@petelee2477

6 жыл бұрын

Pulse22 what's wrong with closing an account?

@Pulse22

6 жыл бұрын

pete lee It affects your credit rating. Having a line of credit in good standing for a number of years increases your score. You close it and your score will go down. So unless it has some viciously predatory interest rates, keep the credit card account open and use it sparingly.

You look like a love child of Heath Ledger, Johny Depp and Barnie Stinson.

Well, there's Steven Universe, where Greg spent half the series living in his van and working at the car wash, and when he'd occasionally tell Steven they couldn't spend time together because he had to work it was simply accepted as something they were both sad about but not a "Heartless jerk who loves his job more than his son" thing. Also the time he broke his leg and treated it with duct tape and rulers.

I grew up way below the poverty line, and even though I'm running a small business that's starting to lift me up, I'm still at or below that line. Shows like Shameless get a lot of stuff right, but a lot of stuff wrong. The constant degeneracy bothers me. Not all poor people are thieves, cheats and liars. While I stole a few times as a kid (and paid for it), theft was rarely a part of my life and was generally only committed by friends who came from wealthier families. You learn that it takes a lot to gain. And that makes theft hard to justify. Whether it's an individual or a store. Not only that, but the consequences aren't worth it. You get caught and your whole family suffers for it. You can't afford to be an idiot. You also learn to respect property rights because of how dear your little property is to you. With that said, a lot of the stuff in that show is a good reflection. People do end up selling and doing drugs, the depiction of drug addiction is pretty spot-on. Especially Sean's struggle. The house is almost exactly like the house I grew up in, and almost lost several times. Utilities getting shut off and everyone having to pull together. I could go on and on. I just get bothered by the assumption that all poor people are thieves and liars.

@MRCKify

5 жыл бұрын

Hope your business is doing great and you're doing great Jimi.

@mikochild2

5 жыл бұрын

I think it’s more that that family and their circle are a bunch of thief’s and liars. There are other shows where the people are not. It is just one take on what people are like in a sea of different shows depicting different realities.

@MRuby-qb9bd

5 жыл бұрын

@@mikochild2 We don't see a lot of other depictions of poor people besides trashy or ultra-ghetto. Shameless in particular portrays its characters as being self-destructive to an extent that they are blamed for their inability to escape poverty. They are constantly getting lucky breaks and then screwing them away with their antics. Like the bank considering them credit worthy, or the jobs that fall into Fiona's lap. To be fair she's got pretty, thin, white lady privilege working in her favor, but she's also a high school dropout and still manages to get jobs thrown in her lap all the damn time! Please. In reality most poor people work their asses off and get derailed by minor disasters out of their control--like your car breaks down and you can't get to work on time. Or there is a health emergency. Or the plumbing floods the house, etc. That's what bugs me about that show. Poor people don't get breaks.

@d.leighannbatemon3192

4 жыл бұрын

@@MRuby-qb9bd but it's easier for rich people to keep poor people at arm's length if they can convince themselves that poor people are poor because of the poor choices they make. Rather than fix the system that keeps poor people from having opportunities to rise above, easier to just say all poor people are thieves and degenerates.

@rumblefish9

Жыл бұрын

I think you're completely missing the point of Shameless. Shameless is NOT about a poor family. Its about terrible people trying and often failing to do good. The poverty is an end result of the dysfunction and bad decisions they make. After all, the show makes it a point to show poor people who have overcome the odds. The Gallaghers would be equally as dysfunctional if they had money.

78% of americans live paycheck to paycheck according to a recent study, but lets keep giving all the money to the rich and shifting the tax burden onto the middle and lower class because they can't afford to buy politicians.

@isaiahfisher2337

6 жыл бұрын

That's just the natural progression of capitalism, friend. Economic power is political power.

@schoob4822

6 жыл бұрын

Ed Lippincott Capitalism in a nutshell

@stevenw76

6 жыл бұрын

If you're living paycheck to paycheck you have a spending problem. More revenue would only mean more spending for anyone who budgets like that.

OMG the credit card tjhing. I grew up watching TV shows and movies that depicted things like that, and was SHOCKED to find out, guess what, you CAN"T just "get a credit card" FFS, the simpsons once BART got a CC under the DOGS NAME. How hte hell did lilly manage to even GET a 3rd credit card? I made small mistake 4 years ago with missing payments, and I had to do all kinds of things to get ONE credit card...and that was ONLY because my parents acted as gaurentors. And let's not forget all the times movies and TV shows depict ppl who "don't pay their bills" (new girl, friends, HIMYM) - IRL VERY few ppl would DARE do that, heck after that 3rd of 4th time of nonpayment it'll basically become IMPOSSIBLE to get anywhere - no mortgages, no one will give you Credit cards anymore, forget taking vacations cuz no one will give you loans. It's like hollywood has NO IDEA what it's like to be poor OR have bad credit score. (OMG don't even get me started on '2 broke girls'. NO ONE that is SO BROKE they have to wear the same underpants for multiple days can clean up as well as those 2 girls do. I mean, they look like supermodels who've just been worked on by a team of make up artists). Oh and their house...come on. that place is AWESOME! Honestly this isn't just "haha bad writing" it's actually teaching kids the WRONG thing, we all grow up watching TV and movies and it shapes our understanding of the world (at least it did for me). Yes, IRL our parents and family hopefully teach us about how REAL LIFE works, but movies often depict things that aren't explicitly taught, often and end up giving the wrong idea to ppl.

@wppb50

5 жыл бұрын

As far as credit cards go: HIMYM came out in 2005, and credit cards were very different back then. You don't even know, seriously. I was getting pre-approved credit cards mailed to me by the time I was fifteen, unsolicited. I grew up in a college town, and they set up tents outside freshman orientation to hand out credit card applications to anyone they could get to stop. That same town had at least one promotion where you could hand in a credit card application to get a free sandwich. I spent a summer selling credit cards over the phone, and except for the preferred customer offers, we were told that we could/should try to sign up literally anyone who answered the phone to get them to apply. It didn't matter if the holders defaulted, because you could get big balances with high interest on enough people to make a profit and trade the high-risk debt in securities bundles to make your money either way. Then the big crash hit and everyone realized the hot potatoes they were handing around were live grenades, and "get big debt balances from people who can't afford them" showed its issues as a marketing strategy.

@mikochild2

5 жыл бұрын

In 2003 and earlier getting a card was a breeze. I had no job, no credit, no nothing. As soon as I turned 18, in 99”, I had tons of credit card offers in the mail. Each of them that I replied to approved me and sent me the card. That was also when credit card companies could say anything to you and call as much as they liked. They would harass, frighten, threaten and shame people into paying the debt on cards they should have never been approved for and never understood the workings of to begin with. Once people got more wise to the scams and laws updated, it then became more difficult to get a card. Maybe the show was written with this experience in mind. Similarly, loans were easier to get from certain banks during certain time periods. Bad mortgage loans to unqualified people was a large contributor to our financial crises in 2007.

@JOESMITH-qs8ue

4 жыл бұрын

Please at one time you could go to your mailbox and find a credit card in there. Using it was your term of service agreement.

@HAWXLEADER

4 жыл бұрын

IDK it was pretty easy to get a credit card(just got one with the account) however I have no idea what the point of it is... Why a CREDIT card? why can't I just pay so that it directly affects the balance? Luckily I have 0 commissions so My bank account is basically like a video game bank, money in, money out... no crazy shticks... I basically use my Credit card as a direct card.

'Take a look at shameless' *shows really nice house* 'thats a realistic depiction of poverty!' Hey cracked. Your bourgeoisie is showing

@jocelyncooper1738

3 жыл бұрын

The characters is shameless live in bigger and nicer houses than I have ever lived in, and I grew up no where near the poverty line.

I am always so mad that Emmy Rossum has never been given an Emmy nomination for Shameless. She is damn good on it.

IASIP does not have nice apartments. Dennis and Mac share a 2b in South Philly, and Charlie has a living room. None of them spend more than 500 dollars a month.

@OverworkedITGuy

6 жыл бұрын

Especially when you factor in the actual costs of owning and operating a bar

@diiasze3743

6 жыл бұрын

frank is milionar, he is the only reason they arent homeless and they can aford to go adventures every week

@kevinponce8525

6 жыл бұрын

Terron Graham isnt Danny Devito's character suppose to be a billionaire

@cheesecake134

6 жыл бұрын

Terron Graham And they have Frank to always bail them out, which they've shown time and time again. I'm also fairly certain every character has at one point mentioned Frank pays their rent. As for the bar I just figure Frank is either just personally funding it OR running his shell corporations/doing various other evil and illegal things to keep it open.

@tusharr922

6 жыл бұрын

IASIP ?

Yeah, but the original Shameless (UK) ... now that is something else

Mycroft pays Sherlock's rent for him. I know this is a minor thing but I'm obsessed with the show so yeah.

The most realistic home on TV was the house on 'Roseanne' and 'The Middle'.

@jenisekaviyakone

6 жыл бұрын

Surah Online I loved watching Roseanne

@jakenothanks307

6 жыл бұрын

Surah Online well the way I grew up was like "malcom in...the middle"

@taraelzy1575

6 жыл бұрын

I agree but shameless was my home, 7 people one bathroom 3bed living room formal dining room Den big backyard my mom slept in the den my brother slept in the basement and we were also poor yeah we lived in a nice house but we didn't always have water electricity and food with 4 boy's 😁😁😁

@bathoryaria4127

6 жыл бұрын

Haha. The house in Rosanne always reminded me of a bigger version of my own house growing up.

@ryndanriley5348

6 жыл бұрын

Malcolm in the middle is too accurate. To the point that I get bad flashbacks when I watch it.

So, I'm a person who actually lives below the poverty line, and yeah, tv really fucks it up. Real poverty, at least in my case, means my entire family is left with untreated auto-immune disease, and my mother is left with barely treated thyroid disease, because where we live, there's not enough doctors and we can't afford them (I haven't had a check-up in two years, and I have to go to an over-booked, rushed paediatrician's office even though I help pay bills). I go to school seven classes a day with theatre for three to five hours after school (so I'm at school usually 12 hours a day), since I need to learn about the world and how to function in it, and then have something fun to do as well. I make money on the weekends babysitting from six in the morning until midnight for different families, and act as a tutor for one family. My money then goes to bills or food, since my mother works competently for 10 hours a day for minimum wage as a bookkeeper in a company where she's hated. She and I come home with my brother to a mouldy, ratty, ill-maintained Victorian worker's cottage in a gang neighbourhood, where rent is cheapest in the county ($1300 a month), and I somehow have to save up to start my life after high school. But I'm not living in shit, I'm not completely starving, and I'm not lazy or uneducated. I really rather enjoy most parts of my life, my family works to make this rental house as good as it can get, I work my ass off from 4:30 am each day to 9:00 pm, and I educate myself in linguistics, history, agriculture, accounting, music, science, art, and many, many practical skills. I have to plan meals very intensely, and it's hard to afford food when I have Celiac (bc I can't digest gluten or I die, so I have to buy the shitty overpriced gluten free stuff), but it's not horrifying. The worst part is gunshots a block away, but the gangs where I live are more interested in each other than civilians. So, it's not all great, not but a long stretch, but it's not uniformly terrible, either.

A really good depiction of poverty is in the show Atlanta. The surrealism on the reality of scrapping by is a struggle the characters go through the entire show. Plus is accurately portraits who’s really struggling to make it the the new age of institutionalized racism: African Americans and other POC. Not saying us white people don’t know what it’s like to live in poverty but we’re not fighting the years and years of forced poverty.

@alexanderchristopher6237

5 жыл бұрын

I mean, it's not like white people are often stereotyped as poor in America.

I remember in the 80s how on every talk show the finance gurus had one thing to say about getting out of debt.... pay cash for everything. Don't use credit cards. Yadda yadda ding dong...blag blah blah... now here we are where you have to have a credit score. Wall St manufactures debt for profit and in return, it enslaves the working class to pay it off.

I don't think that Buffy scene was indicative of Hollywood's misunderstanding of poverty (not that I disagree with your stance). It's entirely taken out of context. After the death of her mother, she had to become the breadwinner of the family in addition to being the slayer. She had a teenage sister to feed, and a house to uphold. One bribe was not going to last long enough for them to survive. A job, however, would.

Am I the only one that just does not "get" that lever gag?

@thelifecoop9488

6 жыл бұрын

It was annoying the heck out of me.

@sethxdecker

6 жыл бұрын

That's so...specific.

@waltondouble0217

6 жыл бұрын

Its just a lame joke, which is cracked's forte

@manmanderson

6 жыл бұрын

Seth Decker I don't get it either.

@manmanderson

6 жыл бұрын

Samuel McCallister the neon sign that is edited in... what?

6:45 Yes, after years of always being able to find good jobs, in my 20's and 30's, I now keep getting laid off. Companies are willing to hire people to work part-time or as cheaply as possible during busy times and then just lay them off. I'm afraid my income will continue to go down the older I get. A soul-crushing job to pay off potentially soul-crushing debt and barely anything left over to save for the future. Yet, the economy is allegedly "good" and "profits are record-breaking".

Reckless disagreement is the best part of this channel so who are there only four episodes? Im subbing just for these 4 tho.

The original British Shameless does a much better job at showing poverty and its affect on families in a realistic way. I highly recommend it 😸

@MetalMadness_00

6 жыл бұрын

Kelli Lindley and the characters don't have deus ex machina they figure out there problems on there own and work through it and are faced with consequences for doing so

@FirstNameLastName-tc2ok

6 жыл бұрын

jesus does every american show have an original, british counterpart?

@Hotcinnamon1112

6 жыл бұрын

Danny Semakov no

@Ignatz71

6 жыл бұрын

Hear, hear!! I loved that series so much I can't even watch the Showtime ripoff.

@anria85

6 жыл бұрын

Danny Semakov Pretty much. Or Scandinavian (The Killing, The Bridge) or Israeli (Hostages, Homeland) Nederland (The Voice, Big Brother) or Japan (Power Rangers, Funniest Home Videos)

Wait, television doesn't reflect reality?

@mohamedhazzam9370

4 жыл бұрын

Dude, WTF are you?

One thing I'd like to point out is that my family used to be a lot like the one from Shameless. Some of my family still is. I've dealt with drunks, heroin addicts, homeless and mentally unstable family members. Things do get better at times for them, but for a lot of them, they stay stuck in their old habits. My immediate family has only gotten better, but I was raised in an upper middle income household most of my life. I was an infant when we were actually in poverty. Only thing I can say is that Shameless is less of a depiction of realistic poverty and more of a caricature of it.

I think “The Help” was a good depiction of poverty for the most part. Their houses were small but clean. Poverty doesn’t mean dirty. I’m no longer living in poverty but for most of my life I was. My houses were always clean, but the fridge and pantry were a little too clean ya know. Even the house on shameless is too big for crushing poverty. Do they have a dishwasher? Yeah that’s not realistic. Lazy wasn’t an issue at all, in fact I worked a lot harder than I do now. It was the ability to find a decent job and affordable housing etc. I eventually applied for food stamps and the first time my fridge was full, yeah I cried.

I know it's a comedy but Shameless turned me off with it's flippant depiction of alcoholism and poverty. That show ain't like any poverty that I've ever felt. It's pretty tame actually. Maybe they were poor and my family was just really really really really poor. When friends tell me they loved Shameless, especially my more well to do friends, and ask me if I like it, I feel the need to explain that depiction of addiction and poverty is far from what it's really like. I never do because it is tv and they would never understand what it was like to be shamefully poor. The kinda poor that could have been avoided but for addictions and bad choices but you are just a kid living in it.

@Wwumzymumzy

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Borden I agree, but Shameless isn’t even going for that message. They want it to be a flippant comedy about a family who just happens to be poor. That’s why things usually work out quickly.

@ElinWinblad

5 жыл бұрын

❤️

@diddlenfiddle7311

5 жыл бұрын

I loved shameless about 15 yrs ago

@wokeup28

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck man, that honestly hit me where it matters. Truth be told when a single parent is too strung out to care and her kids eat dog food kinda matters. I didnt like shameless because of the fact that each episode is like a national Lampoon skit, real poverty is hell; those that experience the dark side humanity has to offer, for those that don't paint the walls with their brains or OD'd on perscripts or hard drugs and survive; the mental trauma is immense and years of damage are having to be repaired or are replaced with addiction and alcoholism which to no surprise repeats the cycle. Poverty truely is hell whilst living. Plus it doesn't matter where ya live, even in the USA if everyone turns a blind eye to it. Might as well be miles away then.

@cilibekd

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't grow up in poverty but I grew up with an alcoholic mom and drug addict sister. It was traumatic and I still feel the burden of stigma from being my upbringing. My mom wouldn't take me to the dentist and encouraged me to party with her in my teens. I had two teeth removed in my 20s and when I told my friends that I was getting dental implants (which I feel so lucky to be able to get), you would have thought I was the lowest person in the world. My friends joked through college about me being like a pet dog because I mostly only cared about simple comforts because I had no security in my younger life. I get mocked now in my 30s because I save all my money and cut/dye my own hair and only shop second hand and don't wear expensive makeup. even though I'm better off than anyone I'm friends with, there is a constant undercurrent that I'm not a "real" grownup. I just say all this to mean that I am sorry that people can be so shallow and that they care about an image that's such total bullshit over real people. I've never really seen myself in characters on tv. The closest for me was vera farmiga in "down to the bone", which is ironic because she plays a drug addict which isn't me at all- I've never used drugs. I just mean that drug addicts in film are sometimes the only characters with any genuine gravitas.

Christ what would happen to that reviewer if they saw the English Shameless

Love your videos!!! Not just because you told me to either 🤓 Very cool concept showing titles shutting off your key light. You are a very good host as well👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻good stuff.

In sherlock's defense: 1. They live together as flatmates cuz they couldn't afford to have individual places. 2. Mrs. Hudson(landlady) was an ex client of sherlock's and let's them live there at a very very affordable rate. And btw she is really rich so she doesnt have any money troubles. 3. The brother works at a high ranking position for the British government. 4. John has an army pension going on and he works shifts at the local clinic 5. If they eat out they go the restaurant owned by another ex client so he doesnt charge them 6. Sherlock has had some really high end clients and he occasionally does jobs for the government Soooooo......in my personal opinion sherlock can afford to take up cases he actually likes... and this show may not be a very good example for this segment.. Sherlock is a crime thriller TV show based on a fictional work, the main frame of the show is about crime solving and friendship ...not poverty and people in different environments ...the subject matter of both the shows are completely different and shouldn't be compared. Do your reserch.

Another one that always struck me was on Veronica Mars where Keith and Veronica were supposed to be lower middle class and their apartment was accurately small but then Veronica would randomly do things that would have cost a small fortune for these investigations that she was doing for her classmates, most of whom couldn't conceivably have paid her back. She once mailed out a dozen or so (one assumes activated) disposable cell phones. Mailing out a batch of several hundred letters. A last-minute, round-trip plane ticket.

@snivy8776

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Clark Where I am at an activated burner phone costs around $30, so about $360 dollars for the phones, letters probably cost around .60 each so say $180 for 300. And a medium range flight on short notice is around 800-900, so total were looking at $1500. That's about 300 hrs or nearly 8 weeks of pay, assuming minimum wage and 25% tax.

@Fuctmentality

5 жыл бұрын

Snivy 87 ,An activate burner phone what I'm from is minimum $45 when it's on sale.

@doll_dress_swap1269

5 жыл бұрын

Or even just showing people on shows who go out to eat, or pick up coffee, or pay for coffee not just for themselves but also bring one they pucked up for thier friends...am I the only one who gets food envy of the eating habits of people in tv and movies?

Matt got his "dope" apartment in daredevil half off because it's right next to a neon sign

@typhoonzebra

6 жыл бұрын

While fully explained and rather reasonable, it's still kinda contrived.

@ChrissaTodd

6 жыл бұрын

Sonny Joon if you can wear those idk eye masks are uncomfortable for me I am sure that can factor in though it's a little issue plus neon signs suck no matter what

@AnthonyMartinez-kr5fn

6 жыл бұрын

Actually the neon light activates neurons in your body that keeps you up, so even if you cover your eyes while sleeping if the glow still reaches you it'll cause you trouble to sleep at night

@Matrim42

6 жыл бұрын

EnochianDevil Half off a corner apartment in Midtown Manhattan is still roughly worth your firstborn child, both your arms and legs, plus all the money you'll ever make. People are underestimating just how ludicrously expensive Manhattan is.

@logansmith2703

6 жыл бұрын

The thing is the "incident" had pretty much just happened and wrecked Hells kitchen. It probably was a lot cheaper than it would've been anyways.

Fallen in love with this channel, it’s awesome. I do t really watch tv or anything for these reasons and so many more.

in TV and movies you can go from being absolutely broke to opening up a coffee shop or restaurant.