buying a team and then shutting them down just because you want a QB for your team is a power move

@subparnaturedocumentary

Жыл бұрын

the ultimate power move

@GamerKiller2347

Жыл бұрын

Pro gamer move

@ARUSApacecarHAMPTON

Жыл бұрын

Solid Elon Musk move. Burn it down.

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

That's some Judge Doom shit.

@pocobull

Жыл бұрын

Try doing it in 2022

- start a team in Tonawanda, NY - lose 45 to nothing in your first game - refuse to elaborate further - leaves They just wanted to be in the history books and they sure did make it even if it was for an embarrassing feat, so I can't blame them for calling it quits.

@Mars-hv3tz

Жыл бұрын

It’s honestly a great way random Joes can be icons

@SL-ld9tn

Жыл бұрын

I mean, Tonawanda is basically buffalo. You can literally cross the street and you'll be in buffalo.

@frigginjerk

Жыл бұрын

Kardex was the name of the office-supply company that sponsored them. That's like being the Evanston Post-Its or the San Bernardino Bics.

@mjbull5156

Жыл бұрын

As I recall the history, they were not going to play a game at all, except they had to honor the contract with the Rochester team. So they hastily put a team together and got blown out.

@davidbunte8860

Жыл бұрын

Then Ralph Wilson hired the entire coaching staff for the Bills in the AFL.

It’s crazy how the Commies have a W for their logo, because their whole franchise is an L

@oddoperator3524

Жыл бұрын

I hope they rebrand when they get rid of Synder if they don’t relocate

@MazeDaGr8

Жыл бұрын

Ba Dum Tss 🥁

@marcusbradley714

Жыл бұрын

The whole franchise is elite until dan snyder took over..that 90s team that one the superbowl is one of the best teams ever..

@prjet1664

Жыл бұрын

Communists? Great

@raymondhopwood9393

Жыл бұрын

I would've favored the Wildcats, seeing that no major sports franchise has ever used that name.

"No major sports leagues have returned to Kentucky since..." The Kentucky Colonels would like a word. #RememberTheABA

@Mars-hv3tz

Жыл бұрын

We need an ABA and WHA video

@david.tousignant20

Жыл бұрын

The ABA was my favorite league by far. The NBA wasn't what it is today and they changed because of their rivals!

@coldsnap5742

Жыл бұрын

Especially since the Colonels not only survived all nine years of the ABA's existence without moving or rebranding, but in 1975, they WON A CHAMPIONSHIP. I still wonder why they weren't able to join the NBA like the Nuggets, Nets, Spurs and Pacers did.

@zlinedavid

10 ай бұрын

No, but a professional franchise has. UK Basketball paid more in salaries than some NBA teams.

@hitdawg64

10 ай бұрын

​@@coldsnap5742 The Chicago Bulls wanted one of the Colonels star players so they colluded to keep the Colonels out of the merger.

I’ve studied NFL history extensively. I love what you did here. I’ve come to the conclusion that anything before 1933, the NFL was so Bush you can’t consider it the same. The reason why 1933 is the year I consider it real … they had actual playoffs and organized schedule with a specific number of games required to play. Those two simple things were lost prior to 1933. As a matter of fact I’m 1920 anyone you played counted as your record. So you could play against your local car wash and fatten your record. I hate to blow off history but 1920-1932 was a total sh*t show and this video only proves that.

@Kylora2112

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Even the early MLB (AL/NL) and NHL were *incredibly* well-organized and recorded. Pre-Championship Game-era NFL is just a shitshow.

@Rockhound6165

5 ай бұрын

The NFL was basically nothing but a bunch of barnstroming and club teams until the late 20's/early 30's. This is why they really didn't have a legit title game until 1933. This is the reason for so many one off teams. Even the Cardinals, who are still the oldest continuing franchise in the NFL used to be called a club(Morgan Athletic Club for instance).

It’s crazy how so many NFL teams have gone through Ohio that one of them played in a village that doesn’t even have 500 people currently living there. Also love how the Portsmouth Spartans (now the Detroit Lions) original stadium is still standing nearly exactly how it was back in the 1920’s

@phoenixantis6994

Жыл бұрын

They use it for high school sports!! Grew up just north of Portsmouth and we played them a few times. It's so cool

@jollygrapefruit786

Жыл бұрын

And, somehow, Ohio still doesn't have a Superbowl to it's name

@simon2722

Жыл бұрын

@@jollygrapefruit786 they were 🤏 this close

@nasis18

Жыл бұрын

@@simon2722 several times.

@nasis18

Жыл бұрын

@@phoenixantis6994 that's kinda cool. Hopefully they never demolish it, because it's a piece of local history.

Fun fact: the Racine Legion's field still exists as Horlick Athletic Field. It was the home of the Racine Belles of the AAGPBL, and is currently home of the Racine Raiders of the GDFL.

@Mars-hv3tz

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see the name still used

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

. . . the Goddamn Football League?

@TheMrPeteChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@qfmarsh64 that's a great name

Ah the Muncie Flyers. I was hoping Five would mention this "legendary" franchise. Played only 3 NFL Games and scored an outstanding 0 pts (0-73) one loss being the fore mentioned Cincinnati Celts

The Cardinals actually have two championships: the controversial 1925 championship and another in 1947. Both came in Chicago.

Modern players when they have contract disputes: *Holds out* Players back then with contract disputes: “Fuck you, I’ll start my own football team”

@thebigepicawesomemikedunca3642

Жыл бұрын

I feel like that’s something Antonio brown would do

So Detroit's been taking Ls from their inception, and New York used to have a team that sounded like a forbidden Harry Potter spell. History is fun

@commodorezero

Жыл бұрын

Michigan Panthers won 1983 USFL championship.

@1VERSEWITNESS

Жыл бұрын

The damn curse of Bobby Layne seems like he might have been a prophet.

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

@@commodorezero still an L

@paxhumana2015

Жыл бұрын

@@1VERSEWITNESS , thankfully, the power of YAHWEH EL ELOHIM and His Holy Word can break curses. If I could afford the franchise, or, better yet, that Washington one, I would do things that would blow the minds of the people of the NFL.

@kenrickeason

Жыл бұрын

I agree.. History is fun..

Fun Fact about Pottsville, that is where the oldest Brewery in the US is, for Yuengling

The Arizona/Phoenix/St.Louis/Chicago Cardinals also won the NFL championship in 1947. Still pathetic I know, but true.

@MarloSoBalJr

Жыл бұрын

Worse than the Oakland/Los Angeles/Oakland/Las Vegas Raiders

@thatsmrtguy4935

Жыл бұрын

Or the Cleveland/Los Angeles/St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

Or the Los Angeles/San Diego/Los Angeles/London Chargers.

@thatsmrtguy4935

Жыл бұрын

@@cjvaye99 the Los Angeles/California/Anaheim/Los Angeles of Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels

@KevinDavis338

Жыл бұрын

I think the Portsmouth Spartans / Detroit Lions is more pathetic

In a parallel universe the Rochester Jeffersons became the Buffalo Bills and soon became 4 time Superbowl champions.

Finally time to talk about the LA Buccaneers, the first LA team that couldn’t attract fans.

@Nutelko8

Жыл бұрын

Alongside the current Rams and Chargers.

@whosaidthat84

Жыл бұрын

@@Nutelko8 well they're both top 10 in attendance

@andrewmeyer4124

Жыл бұрын

@@whosaidthat84 Due to opposing fanbases

@MarloSoBalJr

Жыл бұрын

@@whosaidthat84 Had the Raiders moved alongside with the Rams, the Raiders would have been the #1 selling team in SoFi... Kroenke & his Rams weren't gonna allow that to happen so he opted for the lesser Chargers franchise to be their roommates. So, no. Neither Rams nor Chargers are capable of selling out independently without their respective division rivals

@whosaidthat84

Жыл бұрын

@@MarloSoBalJr he didn't "block" the Raiders the way you described. Spanos got dibs first with the Chargers. And you really think that only home fans sell out? Cowboys always get invaded as do other markets like Jacksonville. Only places like Kansas City, Green Bay, or Buffalo have a 95% home fanbase.

"Seen less than Ben Simmons jump shot" 🤣🤣🤣 I had no idea we had an NFL team here in Louisville.

couple more fun facts about the Steamrollers: - founded by two part-time writers of the newpaper Providence Journal - they played their home games in a bike racing stadium called the Cycledrome - pre-NFL they would often field some college players who would play under aliases to keep their amateur status - during their championship run they would often dominate opponents, with 5 of their 8 wins being total shutouts (including one against the New York Giants lol) - their head coach at that time was HOFer Jim Conzelman, who would also suit up to play halfback and quarterback at the same time

Jack Sack what a legend lmao

Fun crazy little fact, my great grandpa actually played on the Hammond Pros when George Hallas was there. They were supposed good friends, so when time came around George Hallas offered my great grandpa to play on the Bears, he declined to follow his dreams and become a police chief which did happen and started working with Al Capone.

@l.t.hennessy6307

Жыл бұрын

What was your great grandpas name? Whatd he play? Just curious as I think this is pretty cool

@TheMrPeteChannel

Жыл бұрын

Al Capone! A truly great American!

@TheWatchman77

6 ай бұрын

Halas. Not Hallas.

It's funny how a lot of these failed franchises consist of bad team names or just poor rip-offs of other sports franchise names

@joemckim1183

Жыл бұрын

A lot of them just stole the local colleges nicknames.

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

Or pro baseball's. But that at least made some sense because they were usually sharing the same stadium.

I feel like the Decatur Staleys moving to Chicago (eventually becoming the Bears) probably was more of the reason the Chicago Tigers folded. While MLB could support 3 teams in New York back then, and Chicago has done well with 2 MLB teams, I doubt the city could have supported 3 NFL teams at the time, when most couldn't support one team.

@KevinDavis338

Жыл бұрын

That could be the case. The Decatur Staleys / Chicago Bears and the Cardinals were probably better financed than the Tigers.

We need to get a petition going for The Pro Football Hall Of Fame to build a statue of the great Jack Sack!

holy crap the Boston Yanks actually played at Fenway, i thought for sure the Red Sox would have kicked the out purely on principle.

@TigerWoodsLibido

Жыл бұрын

They’re the continuation of the Dayton Triangles-Brooklyn Dodgers franchise that’s now in Indianapolis as the Colts.

@TheMrPeteChannel

Жыл бұрын

You know people from New England area of America were orginaly called Yankees or Yanks. Boston is in New England.

It’s really interesting that small towns were able to form a football team so easily.

@explodyz

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too, also the consistency of Detroit football teams being horrible

@beantaz3862

Жыл бұрын

Entrance fees I guess.

@Mars-hv3tz

Жыл бұрын

The 1920 entry fee was: $100

@MarloSoBalJr

Жыл бұрын

Football wasn't as lucrative until the 60s. You could still form a team for seven figures 'til the merger. Just that keeping a franchise running for 12(?) weeks at that time was the challenge

@UserName-ts3sp

Жыл бұрын

very different league

I misread the title as "Every Failure of an NFL Franchise" and thought we were getting a video about how inept Washington is.

@billallen8998

Жыл бұрын

Washington's ineptness doesn't come close to Detroit or Arizona in total

I thoroughly enjoyed this journey through football history! Thank you Mr. Fivepoints!

This was really entertaining. Football was so different back then

There’s also the Pine Village Villagers- Indiana’s first pro team. 1915-mid 1920s). Jim Thorpe and 16 other future football hall of fame members were on it

As a packers fan this video makes me think about what could have happened to my team.

@MustacheDLuffy

Жыл бұрын

The packers are a team that was founded in 1919 and played a couple of seasons before folding in 1921. They were were a short lived team like many others. 50 years later a new franchise team was founded in Milwaukee but had troubles competing with the market in Chicago. After all I don’t know any NFL team that would play in a town of 100,000

@TheIslandDivision

Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee Badgers 4 life!

@FREEDOM_33

Жыл бұрын

As a Georgia Bulldogs fan, I'm glad nothing did happen to them. UGA wouldn't look the same without that iconic G the Packers came up with. As well as my highschool.

@Low_Rent

Жыл бұрын

Packers suck.

@NJGuy1973

3 ай бұрын

In the 1950s, the league told the Packers, you better get a new stadium or we'll revoke the franchise and give a new one to Milwaukee.

That's actually kind of sad that there are teams that were extremely successful all to be defunct just a few years later. You wouldn't expect that to happen ever if a team was that good

Fun Fact my high school (Orange High School) adopted the the Name Tornadoes a couple years after the Tornadoes moved and folded and we've been carrying the name ever since!

Only thing I remember about the Dallas Texans is Art Donovan mentioned in an interview that they were told to quickly cash in their checks because they didn't know if they would bounce or not

@TigerWoodsLibido

Жыл бұрын

They’re the continuation of the Dayton Triangles. The players then moved to Baltimore the next year and became the Colts. The NFL never should have folded them. They’re a founding franchise.

@ChristianGiaconiBonaguro

Жыл бұрын

Art Donovan? How much does this guy weigh?

@cjvaye99

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristianGiaconiBonaguro "how much does dis guy weigh?? He looks like a business man!"

@kamX-rz4uy

Жыл бұрын

@@TigerWoodsLibido "The players then moved to Baltimore and became the..." Hmmm, that sounds familiar.

@MarsJenkar

Жыл бұрын

@@TigerWoodsLibido Officially, they folded. Unofficially, the remnants of the team were used to start up the current Colts franchise. Really, if you look into the history of the NFL, you'll notice a couple of team "bloodlines" converging in the mid-'40s, and a series of teams folding only for their remnants to be reborn as a "new" franchise, the way the Browns of the early '90s became the "new" franchise of the Baltimore Ravens. The following teams are part of that bloodline: *Old Line:* Dayton Triangles (1920-1929) _(team originally founded in 1913 as part of the Ohio League)_ Brooklyn Dodgers (1930-1943); Brooklyn Tigers (1944) *New Line:* Boston Yanks (1944) For the 1945 season, the Brooklyn Tigers and the Boston Yanks temporarily merged due to a shortage of players (due to WWII), naming themselves "The Yanks" for this season. This was a common practice during WWII; 1943 had combined the Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Steelers for a season (often called the "Steagles"), and 1944 had combined the Steelers with the Chicago Cardinals (as "Card-Pitt"). After the season, the owner of the Brooklyn Tigers wished to have his team move to the rival All-American Football Conference (AAFC); as a result, the Tigers franchise was revoked by the NFL and the players were all assigned to the Boston Yanks, making the former merger permanent. As such, the line continues as follows: *Combined Line:* The Yanks (1945), Boston Yanks (1946-1948) New York Bulldogs (1949), New York Yanks (1950-1951) Dallas Texans (1952) Baltimore Colts (1953-1983), Indianapolis Colts (1984-present)

the pottsville maroons definitely werent a success, but something else from pottsville is actually pretty decent, yuengling beer! especially their traditional lager.

@PepitoTheBiggestCatintheWorld

Жыл бұрын

Americas oldest brewery!

@Zach-mw5so

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been having it since I moved to Florida. They have a 2nd brewery in Tampa. My grandpa was from Pennsylvania and always talked about the beer but I couldn’t have it in California

@subparnaturedocumentary

Жыл бұрын

@@Zach-mw5so yes! can confirm I have relatives who moved to Lakeland and Clearwater they also have wawa down there now

@piggyroo100

Жыл бұрын

Not a success? 1925 Champions!

I'm not surprised the Washington Senators failed. Washington admitted that having senators in their city was enough, and don't want to be reminded of that fact in sports. The reason the Ottawa Senators are still an NHL team in Ottawa? It's Canada.

@FivePointsVids

Жыл бұрын

Washington knows nothing about democracy

@higgy04

Жыл бұрын

The only Senators DC residents used to vote for were baseball players for the annual All-Star Game

You should do this for every major league. would LOVE to see you talk about the NHL ones, especially

One of the reasons teams came and went was because there was actually a lot of antipathy towards not necessarily the APFA/NFL, but the concept of professional football itself - how dare they sully the innocence of collegiate football, the purity of playing for the pride of your your alma mater, by wanting to be paid to play for some other team and play against other teams of professionals? The horror of it all! I remember reading somewhere - and I wish I could find it online somewhere - that one of the leading sportswriters of the day wrote a screed against the professional leagues of the day that basically equated owners and players with pimps and prostitutes. If only they could see the behemoth the NFL has become since those very shaky beginnings.

@billbeliakoff5589

5 ай бұрын

I find it rather funny that pro leagues were compared to "pimps and prostitutes" back then when you look at colleges today. Colleges today as well as back then make all the money and pay the players nothing more than tuition, essentially making them the pimps.

Be cool to have videos like these for the other major sports leagues (and yes, there was a pre-original 6 hockey team called the Montreal Maroons.)

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

Apparently the one lesson we can glean is DON'T FUCKING CALL YOUR TEAM THE "MAROONS."

@tcircle43

Жыл бұрын

@@qfmarsh64 but that Montreal Maroons team did win a Stanley Cup or two

@InterloperBob

Жыл бұрын

What a buncha maroons

I’m sad Louisville’s teams didn’t stick around because that’s my home :( Not to mention we don’t have any big 4 sports teams. At least we have college

@secretseldom2699

Жыл бұрын

then college proceeds to lose to a school that's in their 2nd year being Division 1

@Mars-hv3tz

Жыл бұрын

I never get why their ABA team never got to going the NBA

@TheMrPeteChannel

Жыл бұрын

I believe Kentucky is now the biggest populated state without a big 4 team. That or Connecticut.

@nicholasweaver2374

Жыл бұрын

​@Mr. Pete Channel has reached the big time! I'm pretty sure it's Virginia.

Despite their logo choice, I think the Providence Steamroller(s --the NFL lists them without the S) is the coolest name... A whole team as a unit representing a singular mighty force. That's kinda badass.

@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820

5 ай бұрын

I prefer “Providence Steamroller”, it really captures the image of that singular mighty force that you mentioned. That would be an amazing name, shame no one else picked it up,

Much more to the Duluth Eskimos story. In 1927 it was a traveling team with Star running back and future HoF member Ernie Nevers. Owner Ole Haugsrud would later be a minority owner in the Minnesota Vikings. Interesting enough that Ole's high school team in Superior Wisconsin was also called the Vikings and colors were purple and white. A similar Viking head logo was also used. If not for the Eskimos and their travel schedule, the upstart competing league lead by Red Grange might have done better.

You get high props from me for using the clip from UHF when talking about the Badgers. Well done. Another good vid, baldy.

There were also 2 merged teams that lasted a season apiece: the Steelers and Eagles (“Steagles”) and Steelers and Cardinals (“Card-Pitt”)

@alexg9601

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Card-Pitt were called "Carpets" by some people since they were REALLY bad

@pocobull

Жыл бұрын

The Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the CFL are a child of this as well. Hamilton used to have teams called the Tigers and Wildcats. They merged and became the Tiger-Cats.

The Brooklyn Dodgers played in the first televised NFL game in 1939 against the Eagles.

@TigerWoodsLibido

Жыл бұрын

And the Triangles won the first ever NFL game. And they won the Greatest Game Ever Played in 1958. And had the first black head coach to win a Super Bowl. The Colts history can be traced back to 1913.

5:44 Honestly for some reason this cracked me up way harder than it should've lmfao. It's an accurate statement but goddamn xDD

The League started as the American Professional Football Association(APFA). The name was changed to the NFL in 1922. So this year is actually the 100th year of the NFL name

Fun Fact: The Orange (NJ) Tornadoes lives on in their High School teams.

I want a deep dive into the Tonawanda Kardex. Like a seriously, ridiculously deep dive. I'm talking character studies on key players, a "based on a true story" novel about their struggle to raise that $1,000 fee, players trying to pay for their blind niece's eye surgery, all of that shit. Like I want my heart to freaking BREAK when we get to the point where they finally tear up their charter. Make it happen bro, the world needs this.

NFL: “Hey Brooklyn, want to come back?” Brooklyn: “Forgeddabout it! Actually, there’s a guy named Mara who might be interested.” Nearly a century later and they’re still in the family.

Really enjoyed this video. Great content and humorously narrated!

Great video. I can’t imagine the hours of research you did

7:03 Eyoooo I lost it 😭😭🤣🤣 Awesome vid as always 5!!!

This is awesome. I live really close to Tonawanda and never knew there was an NFL team there

I live for FivePoints’ history videos & funny comparisons. Awesome cid!

I love how ironic i was looking up failed NFL teams like 3 days ago. Lol, great video as always dude.

Man imagine if the vikings suited up as the Minneapolis marines as a throwback for veterans day weekend

20:00. As a massive wrestling mark, this joke isn’t lost on me. Well done mr fpv. Well done 💜💛

Lesson learnt from this excellent presentation is don't call your NFL team the maroons lol thank you really enjoyed this was fast snappy and so much fun information. Btw I'm from the UK so most of this was new and eye opening .

Interesting video five. Another tid bit about Jim Thorpe is the Giants were not the first pro team he played for. Thorpe played for the Pine Village Pros located in Pine Village, Indiana in 1913 before joining the Giants later that year

@qfmarsh64

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit. I live about an hour's drive from there. That town is a pinprick.

At 22:01 ..I have not only researched, but documented the transference of Dayton to Indianapolis...I have even been to the site of the first NFL game...and it intrigued me...after two years of study, I found a direct link from Dayton to the modern Colts...and because I'm a machine embroiderer, I found old logos for each team in the chain, and created a patch for every team change...I have just finished the last patch, and displayed all nine teams in a frame...I will put it on Etsy soon...If you are interested, look for it...

21:57 you should definitely make a video on that, I love that story

@TigerWoodsLibido

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The Colts go back to before the NFL existed.

@richardsiemion5903

Жыл бұрын

Okay can someone explain this to me bc I’m intrigued…. Fun fact in the NHL the Oakland seals moved to Cleveland and did so bad there they merged with the north stars in Minnesota. When the San Jose Sharks came into the league, Gund, the old owner of the Seals and minority owner of the north stars became The owner of the sharks. He gave Minnesota a couple late draft picks to signify the change. So technically the Sharks are a continuation of the Oakland Seals / Cleveland Barons franchise…. Okay I explained that complicated thing in short time … is it something like that? I’m very interested….

Fun fact: The NHL is the last major North American professional sports league to have a team go defunct (Cleveland Barons/Oakland Seals, 1978)

I can’t wait to see if this includes the Washington commanders or not. lol Well thanks for clarifying that in the first 10 seconds! LOL

@MarloSoBalJr

Жыл бұрын

If the federal courts decides to cease the Washington team because it's connected to Snyder.

The Cardinals won't win a Super Bowl until we get our trophy back in Pottsville.

@piggyroo100

Жыл бұрын

Right on 👍👊🏻✊

The NFL should play special games in in some of these cities and stadiums if they still exist. The fans would love it. Call it a Heritage game or something. I know the stadium that hosted the Portsmouth Spartans still exists.

@Tommy_Gibbs_II

Жыл бұрын

That would be cool for preseason games

never thought i’d see you post a video longer than 15 minutes again

Five points vids with another master piece and i ain't watched yet🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Entertaining and informative!!!

"Where are my buccaneers?" "Under your buccin hat!"

You should do a video on "Stupid Team Names" as in the CFL they had 2 teams named "The Roughriders" when one folded they came back as "The Redblacks" Ottawa picks the absolute dumbest names for teams.

@griselame

Жыл бұрын

Not exactly. There was a team named the Renegades before the RedBlacks, that lasted for a few years. And if you want to be very precise the Roughriders are based in Regina, Saskatchewan while the Rough Riders were Ottawa's team from 1876 until 1996

@hommie789

Жыл бұрын

@@griselame I never said that this was a definitive list. I said it a list of stupid names and having a small league like the CFL and two teams with the same name not talking about semantics. Also, I didn't do a full rundown of Ottawa teams, the rough riders folded and a while later the red blacks come in The red blacks and two roughrider teams are stupid

@griselame

Жыл бұрын

@@hommie789 as I said, in the early 2000s, before the RedBlacks there was another team in Ottawa, called the Renegades

@higgy04

Жыл бұрын

@@griselame And the Renegades NEVER had a winning season and the CFL equivalent of Dan Snyder (the Glieberman's) ruined both the Rough Riders (almost moved to Shreveport) and the Renegades. The original Ottawa Rough Riders name is still held by a Chicago restauranteur hence the stupid names appearing in Ottawa.

@Mars-hv3tz

Жыл бұрын

Different CFL, the one Orange was in was the Continental Football League or CoFL. The Canadian Football League is completely different

APFA not APFL. They originally were the APFC(American Professional Football Conference) but after a meeting with other teams from the New York Pro Football League and gained more teams, they changed the name to APFA(American Professional Football Association) which they had for the first 2 seasons from 1920 to 1921

@roypavao7498

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing when he said APFL!!

Now you should make videos of defunct teams for Major League Baseball, the NBA, and the NHL. In the MLB, you have the Federal League, the American Association, and a bunch of defunct NL Clubs. In the NBA, you have a bunch of defunct teams from the league's first decade in existence. In the NHL, you've got a bunch of pre-Original Six teams, as well as the California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons

13:45 I remember seeing UHF in a theatre for the first time. When Raul dropped that line I busted out laughing. ...everyone else was silent.

@FivePointsVids

Жыл бұрын

An amazingly underrated movie

Not just a shitshow, but a *wild* shitshow. Amazing, 5PV.

The Pottsville Maroons didn't lose to the Notre Dame team, they beat them 9-7. The Notre Dame team was also a team of All-Stars so ex-college players. It was pretty common for the early NFL Champions or 2nd place to play the Notre Dame All-Stars after the season. The win actually helped the NFL be seen as more legit as many fans thought the college teams especially Notre Dame were the best. (Another game that helped was in 1930 where the Giants won 22-0 in Knute Rockne's final game which he played to generate money for The Great Depression.) The issue with the Pottsville Maroons was they played the game in Philadelphia to draw a larger crowd which violated the Frankford Yellow Jackets land rights. Pottsville is kind of in the middle of nowhere and had a small field to match their small town's population. Attempts were made in the past to re-award the Maroons back their championship but have only really been supported by a former Governor of Pennsylvania as well as the Steelers and Eagles.

@jimmyleskin4842

3 ай бұрын

I'm from Pottsville

easily my favorite 5points vid

The current Colts are actually descended from 3 teams in two leagues. The Dayton Triangles became the Brooklyn Dodgers/Tigers, which was merged with the Boston Yanks, which became the New York Yanks (but was counted as an expansion franchise because the owner was heavily in debt and by having his team “folded” and then re-entering the NFL as an expansion franchise he got a huge tax break, allowing him to get out of debt, even though all the team’s assets and personnel was still retained). The Yanks were then merged with the remnants of the New York Yankees of the AAFC in 1950 (the Giants got some players first and the rest remained with the merged team). The team moved to Dallas to become the Texans but was, sold the franchise back to the NFL, became the Colts as their assets went with the team to Baltimore but was counted as an expansion franchise to try and give the team a clean slate (something about Baltimore makes the NFL count existing franchises as new when they move to Baltimore, looking at you Browns/Ravens) and the rest, as they say, is history.

@TigerWoodsLibido

Жыл бұрын

They really should have their history on a SecretBase video. It’s truly incredible.

It is incredible on how few people in Dayton realize that we helped started the modern NFL. Dayton has really done a lot when it comes to inventions and bringing things to the world. It might be a crap hole, but its my crap hole damnit.

The Pottsville Maroons losing out on the NFL championship was not due simply to them playing Notre Dame, which would have been acceptable in and of itself. But because they knew it would be a big draw, the Maroons scheduled the game to take place in Philadelphia, which was within the territory of another NFL team, the Frankford Yellow Jackets. Controversy exists- the NFL commissioner warned Pottsville that if they played the game, they’d be booted out of the league, while Pottsville management stated the NFL gave them verbal permission.

Sorry Five but I was disappointed to hear you say you couldn't find anything noteworthy about the Duluth Eskimos. In 1926, they basically saved the NFL by signing star running back Ernie Nevers, who was all set to sign with the rival AFL that was started by Red Grange. However, the Duluth owner (Ole Haugsrud) went to high school with Nevers and that was the deciding factor in him signing with Duluth. With Grange and Nevers (the two biggest stars in football at the time) playing in the AFL, its possible the NFL doesnt make it (or would have been forced into some type of merger). With Nevers, Duluth only played only one game at home before going on a long cross-country barnstorming tour that included a number of league plus many exhibitions against local amateur teams. After the 1927 season, Nevers left to go play baseball (and would wind up back in the league with the Cardinals a few years later). Meanwhile, the team folded as Haugsrud sold the team back to the league. At that point, he was issued a promise by the league that the next time the NFL came to Minnesota, he would have a chance to buy into that team. He waited for over 30 years, but the league honored that promise and let him buy 10% of the Minnesota Vikings when they were an expansion team in 1961. There is also an urban legend surrounding the fate of the Eskimos and it having a link to the modern day NFL. Haugsrud would go on to claim that his defunct team was the same that one that became the Orange/Newark Tornadoes in 1929/30 before going defunct again. The next team to join the league was the Boston Braves, who would move to Washington to become the Redskins (now Commanders). Some have claimed that the Boston franchise was awarded the assets of the old Orange/Newark club (and is thus a continuation of the old Duluth club as well). However, as I said this seems to be urban legend as the league does not recognize that continuity.

@ 23:48 is actor Paul Douglas who starred in many popular films of the 50s, including the original "Angels in the Outfield" and "It Happens Every Spring"

What a great video! Followed!

@FivePointsVids

3 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

Tim Mara was a gangster. Raiding players and sinking franchises down the toilet. 😂

Fun fact; that stripping of the 1925 NFL title is what many suspect is a curse on the Cardinals franchise, for them to never win (in this case) a Super Bowl. When the league in 1963 opened (what eventually became) the final chance to rectify Pottsville’s title, the early-Rozelle regime alongside the Bidwell family crushed those hopes. And thus with an embrace of the stealing of 1925, the Cardinals franchise to this day is cursed to never win again until the Pottsville title is legally acknowledged. Another tibid; the Cardinals loss in Super Bowl XLIII was to the Steelers and the Rooney family…who some of them grew up in Pottsville.

@piggyroo100

Жыл бұрын

None of the Rooneys grew up in pott

"Washington Commies" has been added to the lexicon. Thanx for that!

Love the video length

Another FPV BANGER 😤

Great video Five

We don’t need no stinkin Badgers! Nice classic quote from UHF.

The Cardinals have two NFL championships if you count the DQ controversy; they also won the Championship Game in 1947. After that, of course, they went over fifty years without winning another playoff game.

That pass in the Brooklyn Dodgers highlight travelled 80 yards in the air and you can’t convince me otherwise.

Nicely done.

Those St Louis Gunner old school Unis are fresh 🔥

Hilarious that all you said about Duluth’s importance was the movie as I’m currently working on getting a paper published talking about how the Duluth Eskimos actually were pretty important in the 1920s

Pottsville Maroons - there are people in that city of 13,000 that still carry a torch for their dearly-departed team's lost NFL championship. Repeated attempts to recoup the title have been rebuffed by modern-day NFL officials.

I had no idea there was so many failed teams.

The NFL was originally called the APFA not the APFL

Man, Five Points, you must be real ticked off about Thursday Night Football, lol -- As for me, it is the best new sitcom of the season, lol

I used to live in La Rue. Pretty cool to see their NFL history even if it was short lived.

That UHF reference was great

Mint video...did they use the same football for every game? That thing looks like it was worn down to the nub.