To think that Evan is capable of canceling the vote of a rational person is just terrifying.

@scruffylookingNerfherder5742

2 жыл бұрын

The Dunning Kruger effect at its finest. Painfully ignorant and proud as hell about. The caller's entire argument basically boils down to "I don't know it, therefore it can't possibly be true! And because I didn't know it, then neither can anybody else!"

@antitheist3206

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not saying we should implement standards for who can and can't vote, because that's very easily corrupted, but this is definitely a problem.

@BoothTheGrey

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah - so shouldnt politics (and the whole society) do everything possible to educate all citizens?

@NotAPacifist825

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoothTheGrey it's a feature not a bug

@gazza595

2 жыл бұрын

@@antitheist3206 There could easily be minimum standards of education, if everybody had a decent education it would at least reduce the problem. We can cure stupid be we can certainly reduce it.

Evan is a gold nugget for scammers.

So a 34 year old that sounds like an 80 year old who apparently never went to a science class thinks we should all just believe and not really care about evidence? Something to consider, for sure.

@themplar

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Herbert from Family Guy

@Mewse1203

2 жыл бұрын

I thought he sounded like a 13 year old. Regardless, I was GOBSMACKED to find out he was 34!

@davidmarquart3912

2 жыл бұрын

A muppet

@FourDeuce01

2 жыл бұрын

Judging by what he said, he sounds like a slow 2-year-old.

@mikesommer1914

Жыл бұрын

Funny i think he sounds like he is 5 years old

Evan is so simple minded and stuck in their ways, it's actually kind of a shame. I feel bad for people who struggle this much to think and reason properly to the point it affects how they fundamentally see and interact with the world.

@TheSnoeedog

Жыл бұрын

The shame is that there is no legislation in place to limit their voting/breeding opportunites

Accuser: I believe the defendant is guilty of murder. Judge: what is your evidence? Accuser: I dont have any but I believe it in my heart. Judge : thats good enough for me. Guilty as charged.

@petyrkowalski9887

2 жыл бұрын

@Joe dirty71 its sad really how deluded people can be

Preachers and politicians all around the world love, LOVE this kind of people: simple - minded, ignorant and gullible. Appeal to their biases, stroke their ego for a bit, and they will storm the capital of your nation for you.

Kenneth nailed it: it's about caring if your beliefs are true. If you don't there is really no point in having a conversation about your beliefs.

That "faith" stops a lot of critical thinking

I admire the hosts patience and friendly style of communication. I would have bitch slapped this guy off the air after the "i just know it" statement.

@deeterful

2 жыл бұрын

Right!

Evan's tinfoil hat protects him from "Lies, lies, nothing but lies!!"

This is just sad

@livingart2576

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Education has failed this time around

Evan: „How frustratingly do you want me to present my case?“ God: „Yes“

You guys knocked it out of the park with this whole show and all the callers. Your patience, kindness and sincerity really shined through and mixed with sound, logical arguments really made the callers think about their positions. Well done. Bravo. :)

How quickly they go from "i dont know" to "definitely not billions"

“Do you care whether your beliefs are true?” Evan: “Yes, everybody does.” Evan obviously hasn’t listened to any religious apologists.🤡

This call lasted 13 min too long.. I have no patience for idiocy

8:10 This is 100% FALSE. It was through conversation with atheists that I left religion and became an atheist myself. There is always value to a conversation.

@steveswangler6373

2 жыл бұрын

There is value in conversation with and for honest open minded people.

It k*lls me everytime I hear a theist ask the question "why do you need evidence?" 😂🤡😂🤡😂

When he said "why do we need evidence?", I was done. His first statement was there is proof of god. He is not smart, maybe a 65 IQ at best.

@Carlinisalive

2 жыл бұрын

65 is being nice I say more like 3

@teve90

11 ай бұрын

Nah he could be a genius but says really stupid things

@wabbajack2

10 ай бұрын

IQ is a fucked, synthetic, nearly useless metric, but this caller is either so heavily indoctrinated he sounds like a moron, or he's a few bricks shy of a load.

Kudos on the compassion from Kenneth and SR. Yes, Evan is a frustrating caller, but you never know where conversations like this will lead.

shorter evan ... betty: "look, miss grundy is dead!" veronica: "archie killed her." betty: "what's your evidence?" veronica: "miss grundy is dead."

I've been looking for a crazy caller all day. Thanks Evan.

This is by far the most painful call I've ever listened to. Evan has ZERO critical thinking skills and sounds like he has had zero education. I legit thought he was a young teenager until he said he was in his 3os.

Oh dear. This is the result of not understanding science but leaping to “god did it” Love the channel. Must be the flagship 😀

Another perfect example of a call that should have lasted five minutes. If someone is adamant that evidence won't change their mind, further discussion is a waste of everyone's time, and the hosts are reckless to model that sort of behavior.

@teve90

11 ай бұрын

The last few min the lame assdude was starting to break apart to be fair

At least two thousand years old. This man just bet 1$ on the price is right. We don't have evidence of people going on the moon. What? We have retroreflectors placed from three lunar landings.

@rageofheaven

2 жыл бұрын

@@seasonedbeefs I've had it up to here with you so called "UK" people. What, with your lorries and your water closets and your Jeremy Clarkson.

3:00 Kenneth: What if a college teacher showed you evidence that the earth was old? How would that affect your belief? Evan: I would need proof. We don't have evidence. There isn't any evidence. Also Evan: 11:50 Why do you need evidence? (for God)

What the IGNORANCE!:POOR USA!

I feel so sorry for Evan and people like him. Utterly heart breaking that education and critical thinking are so flawed.

After listening to Evan who stated that he was 34 years old made me want to cry as he has the reasoning ability of young child. I'm wondering if he is the product of home schooling or was educated using Accelerated Christian Education because I do not believe that the public education system in Texas is that bad if he was educated at a public school; however if he was educated in a Christian school setting then all bets are off.

Evan is either a Troll or a homeschooled Bible child

@lendmeyourear94

2 жыл бұрын

or both!

I could never be this patient with someone this infuriating. This person behaves as though all opinions are equal and unassailable and that we can't know anything, so it's just about believing harder than everyone else. The rest comes down to "that science thing is unintuitive to me, therefore someone is trying to trick me!" They can't analyze evidence by any but the most simplistic means, and assume that evidence is manufactured to fool them because they KNOW they don't have the chops to weigh it themselves, therefore assuming that nobody CAN understand why the evidence fits the current models. Unrelated, but I'm so glad I don't believe in reincarnation. I can't imagine being unlucky enough to wind up as someone who thinks like this and can never break free to see with any kind of clarity. People like Evan live in a terrifying world they fear because they don't understand it, blind to the real threats who will use their ignorance against their own interests while warding off everyone with their welfare in mind.

@steveswangler6373

2 жыл бұрын

Has doubts or evidently thought he could sway the hosts and possibly listeners to his beliefs

34?!!!!! At first I thought he was a kid and had a lot to learn. At 34, there is no excuse for such blatant stupidity.

@Gamefan86

2 жыл бұрын

Look up Nephilimfree here on KZread. He is 60 or 61 years old 😄

@SB-cm9jh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gamefan86 Ha...that reminds me of another old fool, Darth Dawkins/Gary Milne...so much arrogance through blatant ignorance.

Evan, if you are accused of a serious crime do you want the judges and the jury to 'believe' that your are guilty OR do you want evidence of your innocence to keep you out of jail ?

@vertigo4236

2 жыл бұрын

Before an US court you are presumed innocent, your guilt has to be proven by evidence to be convicted.

@trevorporter4776

2 жыл бұрын

@@vertigo4236 True, and proven with facts & evidence not beliefs or faith, i guess.

Another fine product of the church.

That was just tragic and saddening

This sounds like someone doing a bad Jordan Peterson

@moirasoma2863

2 жыл бұрын

I thought so too!😂

@DJ-73

2 жыл бұрын

He almost sounds like Herbert from family guy.

"You don't need proof of god. Just listen to what I say and believe me without question. Do what I tell you to do and live your life the way I say to do. Hate who I hate and love only who I say you can love. And give me money."

great show all around. this is what we come for, both the fallacy arguments and the well reasoned ones. thanks guys.

I'm an ⚛atheist who was told that men choose the darkness over the light, I said only when I'm going to sleep!

@SuperJal1979

Жыл бұрын

What is the difference between light and hard? You can get to sleep with a light on.

"That just warms my Grinch little atheist heart."🤣 Nice one Kennth

Evan had the courage to call into a show and have his beliefs challenged. He's not out of the game yet. I'm routing for him. You're never too old to let go of bullshit. We need to nurture people like him.

“Why do I need directions to go broom point A to B? I just believe once I start moving, I’m on the right path”!! Wow! Did I wake up in 12th century?

Kenneth: "if you were given evidence of X would you keep your belief?" Evan: "Yes" well, then I dont know what to say at this point that even with evidence you willing to keep your belief

two great hosts!

Evan drank the Kool-Aid and did a full Oliver Twist "Please, sir, may i have some more please?"

we need a question dodging meter/counter. (edit) episode one of me asking for a question dodge counter

I don't think Evan has ever set foot in a school, let alone a community college. 🤔

You gotta feel for the poor caller. He doesn't seem at all capable of understanding what others say.

Kenneth is so patient! I don't think I would have lasted beyond 90 secs of this call

Literally just "im right because I'm right and theres nothing that can change my mind"

Evan is two years younger than I am. I don't know how to feel about that just at this moment.

Someone help Evan tie his shoes.

These guys have incredible patience!!!

Pitiful what religion does to the mind.

Damn! This was one of the most respectful responses from hosts that I've ever seen. Kudos! Evan, think about why you believe without any evidence. That's what it sounds like anyway. If another person had a different belief with no evidence, which one should the hosts go with as more true?

Is he really 34? I dont think so, he is so far behind on reasoning.

@DeathStarU.S.A

2 жыл бұрын

It's not about age, friend. It's about epistemology. My mom's 61 and she's just like Evan.

@acgsmith5937

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeathStarU.S.A My mom is 90 and she's just like Evan.

@vestafreyja

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 66 and some people might consider me to be somewhat educated as having earned a BSc in Psychology with a minor in Biochemistry, BSc & MSc in Computer Science and PhD's in Computer Science and Engineering and it makes me want to scream, cry or pull out my hair at the thought of individuals with such poor epistemology. What I do find encouraging is the rising numbers of Atheists, Agnostics and Non's in the younger generations.

As a "Christian" I believe the earth is around 6,000 years old. Who can possibly comprehend such a massive number like that?

@Danny451

2 жыл бұрын

@Joe dirty71 I was being sarcastic.🤣 If "Christians" had a brain that worked, Christianity would cease to exist.

I think we were being a little optimistic to think that last call got anywhere.

This wasn't Jordan Peterson talking right,this was like JP talking in a low voice

These 2 are great but I still hanker after Matts more aggressive style.

How is it possible that students graduating from schools in some American states know less about the world around them than when they started? Or, put more strongly: why do some American states bother with the expense of an education system when 5 minutes of tuition would suffice (i.e. a single instruction to believe whatever you want despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary!) to prepare their students for life?

@vestafreyja

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not an American but I do wonder if those states that have the worst educational systems are predominately Republican states?

The answer to the earth age is like a “Price is right” contestant answer.

Jesus wept…

@Danny451

2 жыл бұрын

I hear this "Jesus" character will be here "soon" too.

@LM-jz9vh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Danny451 He's been coming for the last 2,000 years even though he supposedly told his followers that some would still be alive to see the second coming. Watch the mental gymnastics of Christians who try to deny that false prediction.

It's their fear of death so strong , will accept any gods or bibles that would save them from the finiteness of a painful death

Now I know where "High Pitch Mike" from Howard Stern ended up.....

At this point, I'm completely sick to death of blatantly stupid people. No more time should be wasted on people like Evan

@MacLaw3084

2 жыл бұрын

i get it, but remember that other people hearing this may be persuaded to leave their faith.

@BoothTheGrey

2 жыл бұрын

In this show? Decision of the folks who do the show. But as a society? We should do the opposite and put all possible effort in all people to get more educated.

@grandvianna8551

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoothTheGrey but when you're met with people like this dude who just will not be honest and give stupid ass responses, why would anyone waste their time? They've had WAY better callers than this clown

@vestafreyja

2 жыл бұрын

@Joe dirty71 They would have us in the stone age in almost no time at all.

Woah, it's pretty cool that WWE legend Paul Bearer called in.

Isn’t it depressing that people come to believe something first before they establish the facts supporting a belief and these people also have the vote 🙁

@vestafreyja

2 жыл бұрын

When I am introduced to a new subject or concept I'll look for the evidence that is available from reliable sources and attempt to draw my own conclusions and then I'll look at what the general consensus is from the experts in the field and if I find that my conclusion is different from what the experts hold the first thing I'll ask is what piece of information am I missing or understanding incorrectly and not that I'm correct. I tend to use the same level of epistemology across all things except for when I want to actually believe something I'll raise that bar in an attempt to eliminate or at the very least reduce any confirmation biases that I might hold.

This individual actually asked, "Why do you need evidence?!?!" 🤦🏽

This has to be a prank call, right?

"Do you care if your believes are true" "Well yes, but actually no"

It’s not often that the evidence is literally a load.

@darrinkemp1755

2 жыл бұрын

God jizz.

Semen & egg = "god" and nobody knows hiw old the earth is. 😅

Evan is obviously not the sharpest tool in the rack, but I will say that he had the balls to call in, and he waited over an hour to do so. For all his certainty, he evidently has doubts.

When Evan mentioned the Earth floating on a sea of lava, I realized that he was probably referring to the concept of tectonic plates with lava beneath. I know we can't have a test for getting to vote, but it troubles me that Evan is allowed to.

Evan is a special kind of special😅😅😅

A thousand years past this ignorance may be acceptable. No excuse today. Sad, shameful, disconcerting.

I feel so bad for this caller because they have the potential to fall further and further behind in the competitive society and world we live in. Eventually this refusal to think logically and critically catches up in other areas of life and they make poor decisions that impacts them careerwise or financially. I don't know if this caller simply refuses to challenge their thinking process or refuses to answer a simple question... why did they call in the first place? To proselytize?

The hosts soft-walked Evan through this whole thing because it seemed like he wasn't too bright on this topic. It's too bad that religion prays on people like this and doesn't want them to learn more, because eventually, knowledge blows the whole thing out of the water.

I hope he calls in to another show and talks to Matt Dillahunty.

Something about evan just feels off like their pretending to have that voice and that they're just trolling

@Scroticus_Maximus

2 жыл бұрын

Something is suspect

@LillyTheLonelySock

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know ... I actually think the caller sounded like they might have a learning disability. I felt bad for Evan.

Just the voice acting alone makes me think he is a troll.

@jaymercha3859

2 жыл бұрын

i hope so.

I'm thinking, Evan, and his Lady Aberlynn from Mr. Roger's Land of Make Believe, voice is a troll.

Mickey Mouse sure has fallen on hard times.

@bharathdeva9407

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂

Evan. You're 34. It's time to start reading. Time to start getting busy with life. No matter what happened to you as a kid.

Evan's attitude to facts, reality, education and knowledge is prevalent in the US. How is the US going to be relevant in the world in the future with this level of thinking so widespread? Where is the US headed?

@steveswangler6373

2 жыл бұрын

We aren’t heading anywhere, we are there. We rank with third world countries in science and math education. We have idiots that vote for fascists to deny others their rights while actual problems grow worse. We spend billions on military weapons while ignoring or underestimating cyber security. The EU doesn’t value us or our opinion the way it once did. China owns a huge portion of our debt. Russia had overwhelming influence in our 2016 presidential election. We are only relevant to other nations because of our bloated military and our unfriendly environmental policies and actions.

@vestafreyja

2 жыл бұрын

A first world country in name only with it rapidly heading to become a third world country. I'm 66 year old Canadian and I remember when I looked at the USA with admiration and fondness so much so that I went to MIT to earn my PhD's in Computer Science and Engineering instead of remaining in Canada and earning similar PhD's at the University of Waterloo. What I wanted to learn and the groups that each institution offered made them both number ones and not 1 and 1a. Looking over the border at my next door neighbor it is like looking at a house that is in desperate need of restoration as most things appear to be broken and the yard is overgrown and the once amazing garden that was once the highlight of the neighborhood is full of weeds and is in desperate need of some tender love and care. You can still tell that the house although dilapidated has still good bones.

I could not do a show like this I just dont have the patience

"Why do you need evidence?" This might be the stupidest thing I've heard.

Was this Herbert from family guy?

I other words, Evan thinks that people don't care about the truth, that everyone has a high ego and don't want to admit that they could be wrong. No, Evan, not everyone is so egotistical, and some people value facts over feelings.

EVAN IS FROM TEXAS. THAT SAYS IT ALL!!!!!!

What a testament to our poor education system! This is awful.

@steveswangler6373

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s our poor education in this case. I tend to lean more toward Evan having learning disability or something along those lines.

Isn't believe in things in spite of evidence to the contrary, the definition of delusional?

Guys.... you shouldn't have asked him about a snake in the sky... Always ask about a mundane thing. That way you can give a specific example of how we determine if something is true or not. simply ask this question. Q - Can a human being run above 22 mph? Then you can open a discussion about how we would go about determining whether that is true or not what would count as evidence and how would we verify that it was accurate. Depending on what they say you, might want to say how about 25 mph?, how about 27 mph? You can go directly to discussing how we would know whether it's true or not..... incidentally Usain Bolt has been recorded at over 27 mph, and hundreds of athletes have been capable of running under 10 seconds in a 100m sprint, there's video recordings and multiple verifications / calibrations done on the timekeeping equipment. The average speed of a 10-second 100-m is actually above 22 mph. You could then be cheeky to make some points. You could say, my sister can run over 30 mph, do you believe me? I didn't see her do it myself but I believe it is true because I read my cousins diary and he said that it was true. You could then make a really good point. You could say do we have good reason to believe that my sister can run in excess of 30 mph? - if they are honest they will definitely say no we do not have good reason to believe that. Then you could say. I agree we do not have good reason to believe that. Is it fair to say then, it is certain that she can not run over 30mph? A - no we cannot be certain, no we do not have good reason to believe so but we cannot prove for certain. And that is all Atheiest can say about god

Once Evan said the earth is about 2k yrs..my first thought was ..is he 6 yrs old..

Damn, starts the call off by saying that they do not care about factual reality. Incredible

@Rob-fc9wg

Жыл бұрын

This indoctrinated idiot has been listening to his pastor.

I worship sixteen blue and pink winged fairies that fly out of my closet every morning at 6:22. I have a deep faith in them. My fairies talk to me and they: • answer my prayers • perform miracles, • fly through brick walls, • promise me eternity in “fairyland” after my death • are able to create a universe out of my “Reeboks.” • are able to resurrect and fly into the clouds after being dead for weeks and • turn my ice tea into a fine lager. Most importantly, they are written in chapter three of my Holy Book “Good News from the Closet Fairies,” authored centuries ago by their disciples {John, Paul, George and Ringo}. Do you believe in the “holy fairies?”

@DeathStarU.S.A

2 жыл бұрын

Aw, come on man, it just takes a lil faith lol ;)

...and these people get to vote....think about that

Evan is proof that our school system has failed us

@Rob-fc9wg

Жыл бұрын

Failed him!