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I'm 4w5 and don't feel envious of what other people have materially. I'm envious of people who got unconditional love and support from their parents in their childhood. When you get that wonderful beginning it makes a huge difference for the rest of your life.

@NP-go2hj

3 жыл бұрын

YES!!!! That is totally me.

@sara.the.muggle

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I try not to think about it, but it's difficult not to.

@lilovs9952

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! I don’t envy things that don’t make a difference, i envy the confidence and security a loving family gives to people, something i never had and never will have.

@anotherunboxingchannelasmr7920

3 жыл бұрын

I’m envious of confidence that some people have!! I really wish I was more confident about some things, and decisive! I really really envy that about people as a 4w5

@lucid2184

3 жыл бұрын

@@anotherunboxingchannelasmr7920 I have focused so much over years on not having a supportive foundation in my childhood it made me weak. I have discovered a HUGE confidence booster in studying my charts. I love looking at how God made me. My potential. The correct way for me to be comfortable and successful. I study Human Design, Myers-Briggs, astrology (switching to vedic) and numerology. When I am disturbed by other people or life I go look at my charts and it's so UPLIFTING. There are groups for the types on Facebook and videos on KZread.

I feel like I’ve finally found people who understand me

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@hbyisme9094

4 жыл бұрын

Whats your type?

@T3Z1993

4 жыл бұрын

Hoby 1 type 4

@hbyisme9094

4 жыл бұрын

@@T3Z1993 whats your wing?

@tristaneastham7513

3 жыл бұрын

That’s the most type 4 thing you could say haha

Thank you so much for not making us 4s sound like whining, fussing, slugs..... it's a breath of fresh air to hear words about ourselves that we resonate with. ♡♡

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@emmanuelagyemang3738

4 жыл бұрын

I don't whine and fuss. I keep my emotions to myself and I act on it when I'm fed up. I don't do it around my family tho cuz I'm scared they might not like it.

@seanabunana963

4 жыл бұрын

@@generaltzo2157 oh, I feel this in my heart bones. 😍😭

@melcatdew

3 жыл бұрын

I am shocked that every thing I read about 4s make them seem like such negative doubtful whiny ppl. I'm an infj and test 4w5 which seem to often line up, but as an INFJ I care so deeply about ppl and harmonious relationship. I look down at most articles how they depict 4s. Like I understand the negative things and sometimes match up how I feel as a 4w5, but I rarely come across anything positive about 4s 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Nerdy-By-Nature

3 жыл бұрын

@@melcatdew also an INFJ and 4w5 (think I'm sp/sx) I very much agree with you. I notice a lot of 4 descriptions heavily imply that there's a sad longing for the past and 4's are past focused ... INFJ are future focused and growth oriented, so while we will definitely reflect on the past, we don't live there like a lot of these descriptions indicate. And we aren't cool with letting our emotions spill out in such a way as it negatively affects others, like the "diva 4" descriptions. If it happens we're at absolute breaking point. This video was a relief from all the negativity.

4w5 here. While it is true we do create for ourselves, we also do want an audience, albeit we recognize it must be a selective group. Enter in the elitism. We create for those we know will appreciate it and we are not likely to 'cash in' our talent and integrity to the commercial simply for likes and mass appeal. As example, we'd be more inclined to be a 'writer's writer' rather than some NYT potboiler.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Oh that’s so good! And so true! Thanks for sharing!

@kristawester671

4 жыл бұрын

Yes🙌🏼 so we’ll put

@damianya2256

4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking about, 4w5 here and totally agree ¡

@spectralv709

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, performing for the bedroom wall would be lonely. I feel like I need to find myself and my work reflected in and appreciated in the world, somewhere. I don’t think we expect or aspire to mainstream accolades but I think everyone needs to know that what they’re feeling is bigger than just them.

@dylanbeckwith905

4 жыл бұрын

im a 4e3 but feel more bohemian

I'm a 4w3 and now I'm envious of all the 4w5s 🙄

@altheaequatorin1179

3 жыл бұрын

i’m a 4w5 and now i’m envious of the 4w3s 😔

@sara.the.muggle

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, well, I'm envious of you guys! 😂♥

@dextinited.6277

3 жыл бұрын

But why?

@fae5558

3 жыл бұрын

IKR

@shadowrays2237

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a 4w5 and a little envious of my 4w3 friend who gets way more done than my lazy butt 😅. 4w5s definitely super creative, but we have a stereotype of being slow for a reason. Y’all get more creative stuff done than us on average.

I'm a 4w5, though I do have a lot of the 3 traits as well. The odd thing is that I have never thought of myself as creative or imaginative. It was only after learning about the various personality tests and types and being labeled as creative by every one of them that I began to wonder if I was missing something about myself. It was then that I realized I had actually been creating all my life to the point that it became a reflex rather than a conscious action. As an introverted only child whose family moved every year, I tended to live in my own imagination a lot. The reason I get hung up with the creative label is that I'm not an artist. If I have any talent in any form of art, it hasn't surfaced yet. My creativity is more in the form of designing systems of living. I come up with different ways of doing things, different ways of putting things together. My thinking is more conceptual than linear. I start with the big picture and work backwards. That's how creativity and imagination manifest in me. I really had no idea that everyone didn't think that way.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

I loved reading about your journey! I love how you were able to see that creative can mean so many things! It’s so important for a type 4 to understand this. I think they feel like people put type 4s in this box of an artist. And like you said it’s so much more than that. Thank you for sharing! 😃

@marchforth3515

3 жыл бұрын

I lean more toward the 3 wing, but still have a strong 5 wing, and I definitely relate to that concept of creativity! I personally am never able to stick it out with any creative outlet because I end up feeling not good enough... but coming up with so many different ideas for how different the world could be if certain things were done a different way, or imagining movies and music videos in my head as a way to express different points of view and angles in life, that’s where my creativity lies; I hope to bring the systems part to life with a career as a politician. Because of this, someone typed me as a 3, but I feel so much more at home labeling myself a 4.

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@melcatdew

3 жыл бұрын

💯 my biggest hang up as a 4w5 and INFJ, I relate to everything except being creative. I enjoy art, appreciate it, love beautiful scenery, and tried to draw as a teenager, I also attempt playing the piano and am average, but never see myself as creative. I don't practice art and I don't write poetry since highschool. But I am really good at problem solving. My husband is a really good artist but gets hung up on simple day to day planning and solving things. I'm like, it's easy, it's this this and then this. I'm also a medical coder and seems like an unlikely job for us, but I love it. If I see a diagnosis, then I have to know guidelines and other diagnoses that need to be included. And it just lines up in my brain. I can't explain it. But I love it. Your putting together a puzzle. So yea if that's considered creative then I guess I am?

@angelicaferraz1974

3 жыл бұрын

Hi fellow Four! This comment made me feel so seen. As a Four, I’m still struggling to tap into that creative side of myself that I never actually saw in myself. Working with my Enneagram coach, she taught me that creativity doesn’t necessarily equate to being artistic. It extends to so much more and that your creativity can show up in how you view the world. She told me that the my mind itself was so creative and that was so affirming to me. It’s so distinct in this comment too.

4w5, loves writing fanfic, imaginary world has always been so present it feels more real than reality itself. Anyone else also has trouble connecting with others?

@lunac7454

3 жыл бұрын

This describes me perfectly.

@agatha9071

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunac7454 guess it’s a 4 thing then 🙂

@NP-go2hj

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I yearn to connect but don't usually do very well. I feel different, too much, threatening, etc. Even though I'm very gentle and reserved. People must sense my awkwardness(?) Or I don't trust people and back off myself. And yes, the mysterious, the occult, the spiritual is very compelling to me.

@Nsanekilla75

3 жыл бұрын

4w5 and I feel so strongly the same way.

4w5 here. I like to make greeting cards as my form of artistic expression. Definitely an observer and find communicating sometimes hard. I feel genuinely friendly towards others and want to get to know them, but often feel it's hard to get relationships going. Sometimes wrestle with feeling overlooked, underappreciated, and misunderstood. There is definitely a wrestling with the emotional and intellectual thoughts.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Love this! Thank for sharing!

4w3 here... I'm not as reserved as a 5 ... I'm outgoing and have a zeal for life. I'm creative from begining to end.... From ideas, to communication, to my cooking, to my creating art work... Although, I struggle with mood swings, I am able to get back on the ground. The main way I don't identify w/ the 3 is their go get'em goal orientation ... I'm a procrastinator... Oh, I get things done... but in my own time... Except if its a freelance piece... then I get way motivated!! :) A draw back... ? Perhaps... But I believe its because I want my art to be for others... Not for myself.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Love this! Great self awareness!

@MsAliensex

3 жыл бұрын

You rock 🤟

@snail5742

2 жыл бұрын

this is exactly how i am

@snail5742

2 жыл бұрын

except for the last part i want my art for myself and no one else, it's a struggle for me because i really want to work in the art world but i love to gatekeep my art cause i feel like it won't be as appreciated as i want it to be but it could also because i hate and scared of criticism. sorry for ranting💀

@grog_grog

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat here, 3w4's when in stress go to 9 and are more likely to procrastinate while 4w3's tend to get hung up on relationships and what other people think of them, I do both lol, I don't think I'm too unhealthy tho, but I think I am leaning towards 4w3, idk, it also doesn't help that I am an ENTP that was mistyped as an INTP lol.

Yes, your 4w5 description is spot on for me. I appreciate you talking about our potential for creativity, I found that very inspirational actually. I definitely tend to create more for myself, but I'm trying to push myself out of my comfort zone lately and be brave enough to share with others. I personally think my 5 wing is very strong. I don't just want to be seen as unique, I also want to be seen as knowledgeable, wise and independent. One of the most frustrating things in the world to me is when I am patronized or underestimated. So yeah, my 5 wing drives me a lot. But I want to embrace the 3 wing more because I think it has the power to make 4s braver and more determined.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

This is so good!

@angelicaferraz1974

3 жыл бұрын

This resonate so much with me! I’m having trouble identifying my wing still. I don’t see myself as mysterious or eccentric like a 5, nor do I see myself as ambitious and sociable like a 3, but I think I lean towards the 5 in the sense I do hate it when my intellect or knowledge is patronized. I want to be capable more than I want to be valued, I think.

I thought I was a 4w5. I relate to the introvertedness of the 4w5, but the creating with others in mind and being interested in "the finer things" of a 4w3 I relate to more!

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you didn't go by this alone, to single out and identify your type! :D

Thank you so much for this! I’m a 4w5 and finally found some explanation for the way I have felt my whole life. This is crazy

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow! So happy it helped!

I was baffled when I heard envy was my kryptonite. I totally disagreed with the envy fact, but when you say not envious of material things and more of what's inside it hit and made sense

I’m a 4w5 and this was spot on. I’m highly creative and I feel the most alive when I can engage in creative and intellectual hobbies. If I’m not creating poetry I’m researching heavily into a topic of interest. When I’m at an unhealthy level I do tend to isolate myself and I do find myself thinking about things that happened, but I try to do so objectively and never react in the moment.

It was really cool to learn that 4w5 needs to sort out their struggles through their intellect in order to move through them. I am very much like this. I got a master's degree in counseling psychology to thoroughly understand my struggles. And I am combining intellect with creativity to write my songs and other artworks. Cool! Very validating!

It's been very validating to see that my process of withdrawing into my emotional world is a part of who I am rather than a failure to 'be normal'. That world honestly feels more true and real to me than anything else. I often feel like I am performing in the wider world, which is also interesting when I am pursuing my inspiration and curiosity. But it's almost like I work in cycles, going out, and then withdrawing, reflecting and creating, setting new goals and ambitions, and then going out again. I have actually worked in many different fields and the immersion into different realities is what is interesting to me as well. I like to understand how things work conceptually. I often have ideas for projects but they are difficult to translate into words and action at times, especially because I need to fit into certain structures and frameworks in order to actualize them. I am very artistically inclined, but don't yet know how to show what I do. A lot of it also just feels so personal -- it's the way I work through what I feel. I don't think I really envy anyone but I think I get frustrated of these cycles at times, wishing I could just be living in my reality rather than questioning my truth and worth all the time. I'm a 4w5 I think but on the other side (to a lesser degree) I have the 3; what does this mean?

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. First thank you for taking the time to share. I absolutely loved reading about you. It helps me understand the type 4 even more. And to answer your wing question I’d say you are a 4w5 but you do use the 3 wing when needed.

4w3 here and I rarely get envious of people's possessions. It's the family, It's always been the family for me. I look at people with loving families and find myself wondering what I did to not deserve that.

I am INFP 4w3, and many people mistaken me as an ENFP because of how I act XD

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I hear this a lot! Thanks for sharing!

@brunaluiza118

3 жыл бұрын

I’m the exact same!

Hi Hillary! I am 4w3. I like how you clarified the feeling of envy as that resonates a lot more with me. Feeling like others have something inside them that I lack. That’s the best description I’ve heard of it. My way to deal with that is work really hard to be the best version of myself and trusting myself more. It’s helped a lot. And yes, I am very creative and want to inspire others and be transparent with my creative works so that others known they are not alone if they go through hard times. I want to share my work for sure.

@enneagramandcoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Love this Lia! Thanks for sharing!

@princeofsilence6573

Жыл бұрын

Wow, reading your words its like they were written by me xD Im also a 4w3

I just found out I’m a 4w5 and your description fits me to a *T*. Thanks! I’m envious that others seem to make their way through life and the world easier than I do.

I suppose I’m an un-extroverted 4w3, but definitely have a lot of those 5 traits in there! I like to withdraw and just escape into my own mind for a bit, but I can also be upbeat when I’m talking about and focused on my ambitions and dreams for the world at large I also don’t relate to the extravagance of the 3 wing, I personally do not like anything too flashy or attention-grabbing or just anything that comes off as “wealthy”; something just feels off about that style. However, I do want my ideas to catch people’s hearts and to inspire them into action

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Love this! Thanks for sharing!

@growinchristiandatingwithc5823

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@jaybee588

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this input. I'm more of an introverted 4w3. I guess the extravagance part might relate more to having both "quality" tangible and intangible possessions --- may it be our family, friends, food, relationships, material wealth, memories, adventures, etc... On the other hand (IMO), one of the things that make 4w3 unique is when our hearts dominate our minds when dealing with others or most situations/conflicts. We use our heads when dealing with ourselves, and we use our hearts when dealing with others. 😁

4wing 3 here. Funny - as you talked about the 4wing5 being EXTREMELY creative I started feeling jealous...🤣😂 and then realized how incredible 4/wing 3 I really am! 😁😆

@enneagramandcoaching

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

I'm definitely thinking I'm a 4w5 because I'm very introverted and I do enjoy creating all sorts of things. Albeit, I don't think I create anything super amazing. But I do get lots of satisfaction from creating. Especially when it comes to food. I'm absolutely horrible at decorating, but I do enjoy painting as well. I'm not sure about the having an audience thing. I enjoy the praise I receive when someone likes what I've made, but it's also scary to put myself out there because of the fear of rejection. Dealing with lots of emotional trauma has put me in this mindset, I believe. Because of the trauma, I have become very introverted and withdrawn. I have really been putting a lot of time researching the Bible and studying different psychological aspects of trauma to try to make sense of my situation.

I dont THINK I lack qualities that others have, I KNOW I lack qualities that others have. And that makes all the difference!

@maevealthea2621

3 жыл бұрын

Relatable!

YAY MY TURN! :) 4w3 woot woot!! i love this series so much, it's been so fun hearing everything you have to say!! thank you Hillary!💓

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Yay!!! 🎉

i’m a 4w5. although i am young i do have a lot of emotion and i love drama. i will agree i am sometimes hard to argue with because i always, even if i know i’m wrong, find something to blame on the other person and make it like i am the victim. i have a therapist and have been confirmed as depressed but not to bad, probably just a light case. i am very independent and kind of introverted but love going out. i would say i’m very out going but i’d rather stay with my few close friends then go out and make new ones. i would say i am creative and observant but those have kind of started to wear out since my depression. i don’t like to complain about my life as i constantly worry about how others think of me, appearance wise. i want to be nice and help people but i end up being kind of mean and will definitely argue over the smallest things. thank you for reading this paragraph about my personality :)

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing! When you share it helps others that probably feel alone but when they read such authenticity they might feel more understood. So thank you for this!

@afifahilyana88

4 жыл бұрын

I relate to u a lot from this post 😭

4w5 INFJ of course. Your description was spot on for me. I create and gather knowledge for myself primarily; seeking solutions internally when confronted with dead ends!

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

3 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow 4w5

4w5 writer and seamstress.... snagged my husband 20 years ago because I was very comfortable with doing my own thing, unashamedly vintage, not a trend follower, comfortable with expressing things that weren't "on trend"...

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Awww...love this. Love that you know who you are :) Thanks for sharing!

SUPER accurate regarding the 4w3!! Image is super important to me and I'm very much into designer clothes, high end, and interior design. True that I definitely never measure up to whom I feel I truly am, mostly because I don't feel outwardly recognized or appreciated for my unique talents. :(

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I am sorry that you don't feel outwardly recognized or appreciated. That's so hard.

I definitely relate to the 4w5 more. Thanks for the great information !

4w5 here :) I’m currently in school to be a mechanical engineer. Everyone is surprised when they find out I’m a 4 cause my wing is SOOO strong. But I love that engineering lets me use my logical mind and my creative mind to come up with unique solutions to the worlds problems. And yeah the withdrawing while stressed situation is extremely prevalent in my life. During the semester it’s very unlikely to find me anywhere other than my classroom, the library, or my bedroom

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

You sound like a 4w5 for sure! Thanks for sharing! And I love how you see the creativeness in you and use it in different ways.

@NetStrider

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely feel ya, Lauren. I’m in IT and love UI/UX design and even database design for similar reasons. But for fun I write, paint, mess around with music. I just like makin stuff!

You know I thought I was 4w5 because I’m more introverted, but 4w3 hit a little closer to home. I’m always going on about the supposed “fanbase” or “audience” of my stories before I’ve even finished any of them. And I tend to be very extravagant and I overthink everything I do. I don’t like the enneagram test....this feels like it’s targeting me specifically and I don’t like it.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I enjoyed reading about you. I’m not a huge fan of enneagram tests either. They are only around 60% accurate.

I am a four wing five. We love to learn new things. We are super creative and we have a big vocabulary. I have always in school been in choir and debate. I am currently a freshman in college getting a major in vocal music education with a minor in science and history. I also after I get my major I want to get my constitutional law degree because 4W5's definitely want to change the world for the better but we don't need the recognition to be happy, as long as some people see it we are happy.

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

This is so good! Thanks for sharing!

4w5, I felt very seen. Thank you for making it so positive and complimentary, too. What a pick me up!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Yay! I love this! Thanks for sharing! ❤

Type 4 wing 5 male here feel like a rare breed

@katrinagrigg6647

4 жыл бұрын

4 wing 5 female

@abigailheffel3344

3 жыл бұрын

@@katrinagrigg6647 Same.

@ivyaurelian4831

3 жыл бұрын

Idk why that made me laugh so hard same though

@jonahcunningham8579

3 жыл бұрын

Same bro. Although as an Individualist that makes us sort of cool don't you think? lol!

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

4w5 , I create for myself and live in my head. This is very me.

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

💕💕💕

After listening to you speak on the wings, I’m definitely a 4w3!

@enneagramandcoaching

6 ай бұрын

Love that!

If you love a 4w5 woman, you may have to "go in after her". Forget the chain gun; you'll need pomegranates and a harp for this journey.

@aamu3

3 жыл бұрын

Love that 😆

@catherinemacleod4985

3 жыл бұрын

@@aamu3 See the movie "What Dreams May Come".

@catherinemacleod4985

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6qkqddslbKWoLw.html

@KxNOxUTA

3 жыл бұрын

ROFLMAO oh god, get out of my head this instant 😂😂😂 We really are the classical case for a "Prince/ss or Chivalrous Knight" appearance, are we not? Were are thou/you? How shall I send word? 😂

4 with a STRONG 3 wing here! This was great, I have been seeking more info on the differences between the 3 and 5 wings for a 4! You're great! Subscribed!😀

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!!! Thank you!

Definitely a 4w3! Thank you for the video! Definitely made it clear to me.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Love this!

My people!!! Yay!! INFP 4w5 here and man today I just had almost everyone stunned with some of my knowledge bombs at break... yeah it was almost INTP levels... kind of scary. I research almost everything, psychology, philosophy, math, science, military technology and training, police procedures, firearms, biochemistry (more recently) learning Norwegian, computers, and much much more... yeah it's pretty crazy up in my brain. But a lot of people in this comment section can probably more than relate!

Thanks for so positively referencing 4w5 🙂👍

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Love 4s! ❤️

I'm a 4 sexual variant with balanced wings, or at least so the test says. Bohemian, or dreamer sounds more like me, but both wings resonated with me. I'm a lot more lost in my own thoughts and much less competitive than the 4w3, but I also, secretly, have a taste for the finer things in life, such as nice perfumes and good food. Cooking, philosophy, literature, singing, yoga -- and many walks in the forest or by the beach is what I need to feel truly happy. I like taking it slow

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

3 жыл бұрын

this

@tlhogid663

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

Love this, thank you for this resource!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

You’re so welcome!

I’m a 4w5 and I definitely create for myself if others like it awesome if not I still love it. But then I go investigate to make sure if what I created could possibly be better😆

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

LOL!

Type 4 with 3 Aristocrat wing - love your video it's so clear, it's great!

@enneagramandcoaching

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

Almost feel like I’m both 4w3 AND 4w5, until you said 4w5 is more introverted … and that is ME for sure. I can make friends easily, but not great at hanging out!! Lol thanks for this. Super insightful!

I’m 4w5! Love how you described my type! You’ve shown me some new aspects of myself!

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! Love this! 👏🏼

My small group is studying enneagrams and your videos have really helped us!! Thank you.

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome!!!! I’m so happy they are helping your small group 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Enneagram type 4 w5 here. What you said was compleatly accurate!!! Thank you for making this.

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Yay! You’re welcome!

Described me perfectly (4w3) thanks!

I'm an INFP 4w3! And finally, someone understands me :,))

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!!

I'm a typical 4w3 just got it endorsed after your video 👍🏼

I took the quiz got 4w3 first time I have ever been completely stunned at how bang on accurate something is. Right down to the career choices. I am currently two of the four career list choices

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Amazing! Thank for sharing!

I'm 4w3 and found it helpful to hear where each wing goes under stress. I can relate to both but lean more heavily towards the 3. I do find myself making a mark on the world and feel envious if others seemingly do so with greater ease.

I am a 4w5. It is very accurate.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Yeah, spot on about the 4w5 creativity. It can be truly breath taking. However, you wont get a large volume of production out of 4w5s, just a few gems.

Thank you for the info! I am definitely 4w5 and certainly find it interesting that works of art would be my thing! Great video!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

4w5 here! Spot on 💕✨🙌🏼🙏🏼

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼❤️

Thanks, Hillary! I just found you today & I'm enjoying binging your videos. I often hear it said that 4s are driven by a desire to be unique. From my perspective as a 4, it's much more about my need to be authentic. I may end up looking unique/weird (flashback to high school), but that's only because I need to be genuine and choose the "real" thing to do or be or wear. I know others often think, "Why does she always have to go against the crowd??". But for us, we're so uninterested in the crowd that we're not deliberately being conconformists. (But maybe that's just cuz I'm a 4w5?)

Oh my gosh I’m really gonna understanding my 4w3

Definitely a four with three wing! Thank you

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Great information!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Margaret! Your comments are always appreciated! ❤️

Thank you very much for this lovely video! I'm going strong on the 4w5 side of my life. Because I'm also going strong on the introversion and yes, I'm part of the "Oh, you call my lifestyle 'social distancing'? How curious!"-division. 😂 I'm very aware of my creativity and the very strong intellectual aspect of it. I'm really strong when it comes to diving into the greater picture of the human condition. Combined with being highly sensitive and spiritually perceptive, I dive into anything with ease. I mean rather literally anything. I can feel into a doorknob and feel the heat of fire and molding process of the metal in 4D quality. 🙃 Things are rather difficult on the side of work. It's straining to be "out there" regardless of my deep love of people. Or because of it. It's hard how the balance of work versus life do not quite align. I'd really not need much at all. But life is potentially expensive just by "being there" in many parts of the world. And work that allows working few days and yet earn enough to cover just that is not easily found. Especially not on a field I'd be effective at and feel OK in. Add the need for coworkers who at the very least leave me be and....... yes..... it's easier to support the cause to get the principle of unconditional basic income installed. 😅 Imagine that! Being able to thrive AND being able to creatively jump by wherever needed and getting effective without worrying about things like the transitions endangering your survival or having to get through tons of paperwork to receive or to explain the while income flow thing. I'd easily stick to the minimum and extend volunteer work without running into basic challenges like: "I have the time, skill and motivation but oops, I can't afford the bus tickets to get myself to the location of volunteering work and oops they need help and not more work added and more financial strain added by the question of how to get me from A to B." Ofcourse a lucky or gifted partner will be equally welcome (but solely for their character and if their support comes with no price tags and strains on them that make them unhappy. That won't do!) But that's a gift in life I'm granted or not. I'll never know when that'd possibly be before I reach there 😂. Is it too much to hope for a "Patterson (2016)" life? ☺️ [To be fair, I'm very very lucky and am currently living the introverted single version of it right now, in a sense.]

Careful Hearts. If you’re a 4w5 don’t stay in 5 too long, that’s the head triad, and the toys there will make you think your feelings instead of feeling your feelings. It usually leads to self pity.

I wasn't surprised when I found out that I was a 4w5. I also score as an INFJ. What surprised me was that they go hand and hand. That let me know that I'm consistent with my personality.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! Sounds like you are very self aware!

@7EmpathicBeauty

4 жыл бұрын

@@enneagramandcoaching I am, but it doesn't matter when there's no one to share certain aspects of myself with. I will save you from my "brooding". I've realized that I'm actually typical for my type lol but I don't like feeling not special or average.

@Kat-zp5rc

4 жыл бұрын

I am too INFJ and a Type 4w5

@taylorspring7945

4 жыл бұрын

I’m a 4w5 and INFJ too haha

@petrab8373

4 жыл бұрын

Infj 4w5 here too☺️

Although this video was short, it was enough to make me kind of want to cry. As a type 4, I've come to internalise the idea that 4 is "the worst type" to be. People who other people find difficult. Well, we may be difficult, but thank you for saying all these nice things about us. It's good to know that while we may be a bit hard to make sense of, others do see a lot of value in when they finally get through to us. A little help in loving ourselves is also good, since type 4 seems particularly prone to self-loathing. I'm defnintely the Bohemian. Now that I have some confidence, you can tell by looking at me these days, which is helpful as a warning that I don't do shallow conversations.

4w3 here, are you trying to say 4w5 is more creative than me? We're about to fight

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

LOL!!! Oh no! Please tell me I didn’t say that! Your the MOST CREATIVE 😂

@getskilled9078

3 жыл бұрын

@@enneagramandcoaching Thanks! I knew it! I'm affirmed!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!!! You’re awesome!

@happilyeverafter1528

3 жыл бұрын

My brain be like:

4w3 ! thanks for the explanations

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Your so welcome!

I test out as a 4w5 and the descriptions fits me perfectly.

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

I totally thought I was 4w5 but after this video I’m leaning towards three!!

I’m a 4 wing 3 - and that was VERY helpful on the things I struggle with!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad it was helpful!

4w5 I don't see myself as creative at all and I'm still struggling with my career path 😣

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Creative can mean so many different things...I’m sorry your struggling with your career path. I’m praying for wisdom and clarity for you!

@Gracen26

3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Well, I do know some of my path, it's just starting it is where I'm stuck. I don't know how or where to start

@sarahh6401

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a 4w5 and I don't see myself as super creative either!

@safouenhatake6570

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahh6401 i think you are creative but you are in the beginning + everything will light up some day

@roy.shrestha

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I had always been torn, but this made me feel like I'm more of a 4w5. I love creating things but hate the pressure of creating things just for others. I do make a living from my creative work, hence why I thought I may be 4w3, but if I had it my way in a perfect world, I'd only create things that I want to create when I want to create them, and if I was the only person to ever see those things then I'd still enjoy the creative process just as much. I actually get a bit squeamish about other people enjoying my creative works so I truly think Im a w5 now. I've also been called "weird" and "mysterious" more times than not lol.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Great insight.

Good video HIlalry - excellent content

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!!

Hey, thanks for this video. I'm new to the enneagram but it's helping me to understand myself on a much deeper level. I am super creative, that's for sure. I've spent most of my life creating for myself, not so interested in my audience but my NEED to create, constantly. I sometimes outkast myself and think I'm the outsider, focusing on the flaws I see in the world all around me, with a longing to create things that can help to make the world a better place. As I mature, I am now wanting to share my creativity with the world in a new way, wanting to teach others about what I have mastered and share my creations with others in the hope that it will inspire them to discover their own creativity as In my world this is the main thing, and the only way I have found to cope with life. I don't really care about extravagant appearance, but I like to be unique in my own subtle ways. I like to be seen as special and one of a kind, which can sometimes make me jealous of others and also competative. I do like to enjoy the finer things in life on occasion but prefer my own company and simple pleasures. I would say I'm a VERY deep person, always longing to look at things and subjects that others seem to ignore or avoid. I feel like this part of myself makes others feel uncomfortable which makes me feel alone and sad however it is this part of myself that also allows me to see things with a very unique perspective, allowing me to transform absolutely anything into a creative outcome. I transmute all of my experiences, good and bad into creativity. I like to be alone, but also enjoy company. In large groups I usually pick one person and open up to them, otherwise finding myself as the lone wolf... uncomfortable, awkward and misunderstood. I am very sure of myself but also have a shadow of self doubt, yearning for acceptance. I am very independent but long for people to understand me which usually shows up in my deep romantic relationships. I can be jealous when I think someone else can do something that I can't, but not so much bothered about material things. I sometimes feel isolated or misunderstood by others and tend to hide from the world, taking refuge in my creativity and often becoming dependent on substances to sooth my misunderstood soul. I feel like I'm loved by most, but I realise I'm very mysterious and good at shape shifting therefore others dislike me for constantly changing, and I feel like some are envious of my freedom to create. I'm for sure a complicated creative romantic. I feel like I and 4 with wing 5 but also wing 3. Introverted but also craving to be seen and understood... Even if I pretend like I don't care about others opinions, it secretly means everything to me. I just want to be loved for being me, authentically. Thanks for listening.

i honestly thought i was a 6w7 prob bc of my anxiety and ocd but when i watched your videos about type 4s i actually related to them way more, and ive always been close to a 4, i just wasnt sure before. and now im pretty sure im a 4w5 so thank you so much for this !!

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Yay! So glad it helped!

I thought I was a 4w5, but now I'm thinking I might actually be a 4w3.

I am a 4w3. I don't feel very creative, but I've felt stifled for years, so maybe it'll finally shine through now that I've learned so much about being an INFJ Meyers Briggs type.

I took a test today and ended up being both 3 and 5. This makes a lot of sense for me. I need to get back to my art.

Interesting video. I strongly relate to both the five and the three wings. After watching this video now I consider myself both. Some things aren't true about me but most of both is true.

Great video, 4w5 here. 4w3 seems to be creating more for others to see while 4w5 tends to create more for themselves. Both want to be seen but theres definitely a shift in priority/expression. Art is part of the intellectual/emotional analysis for the 4w5.

This is great; clear, easy to grasp & delivered w/ passion. I’m a 4w5 I think. Thank you!

@enneagramandcoaching

2 жыл бұрын

Yay! I’m so glad! Thanks for this!

I just took a test 4w5 it was spot on

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Wow i always thought i was a 4w3 but I think im also in touch with 4w5 as well. I could relate to everythinggg about 4w3 (especially moodiness, creating with audience in mind) but I also sometimes withdrawal when I'm going through it, and often create for myself. I'm a painter, and I paint things that are visually appealing (for the audience) but with super subtle hidden messages that people usually only see if I explain it, and that is for me. :) so cool that these things are part of my personality!

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Love this! Thanks for sharing! ❤️

Hi, Hillary, a belgian aristocrat speaking : you nailed it !!

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Yay! Thanks!!!!!

i'm a balanced wing 4, and, gosh, when someone says "finer things in life", it talks to me

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

I am a 4w3 and my wife is a 4w5 and I think you did it really well. I am the more out going while she is more introverted. Thanks again for this video.

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@catherinel.6544

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to give that example. I thought a relationship with 2 four wouldn't stand on the long run, because each would draw the other one down. Thanks to break that belief of mine !

I’m a 4w3 and this is so accurate, although I’m a risk taker since I’m an ENTP I still value my image a lot. Sometimes I get confused cause my personality type (ENTP) and Enneagram (4w3) is contradicting each other but I am very creative... I explore a lot and want to learn a lot. I also love aesthetics so much and I indeed love being unique/original and so ambitious too. I love this sm,,

4w3... word for word ❤️

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️

As you described the 4w3, I thought well, maybe. Then when you described the 4w5, I thought “Yes!! That’s me!”

still not sure which 4 wing I am... but this was a very helpful explanation! Thank you!

I'm sitting here as a 4w3 feeling envious the 4w5s create for themselves and wondering what is wrong with me that I seek other's approval.

as an enneagram 4, I believe you need both wings to fly. I thought I was a 4w3 but I've realized ive got many characteristics of both. The sooner you realize this, the easier your life will be

Thank you! My dad is also a 9. My mom is a 2. I’m a 4, but undecided about leaning more towards 3 or 5. Enjoyed the video 😊

4 with a 5 wing. Learning to no longer see the world outside myself. But as my self. And I have no desire to fit in..

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

3 жыл бұрын

4w5 here!!! I'm an artist, I mostly illustrate my dnd characters hahahaha ~

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Love it!

My recent test results showed a 4 with a 3&9 coming up next...definitely can relate to your instruction thank you

@enneagramandcoaching

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you could relate. Thanks for sharing!

I am a 4w5 but I have few traits of the 4w3 type. I use home decor, fashion and beauty to express myself but it’s only for myself, I don’t care about others. I am extremely introverted but I also enjoy some finer things in life. Also, I feel like I am not creative enough or not talented like 4w5s should be. I hope I find my path soon

@enneagramandcoaching

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Sometimes 4w5s don’t see themselves as creative because they think it needs to be art or music. But there are so many different ways to be creative. I’ll be praying you find your path too ❤️❤️❤️

@roy.shrestha

3 жыл бұрын

@@enneagramandcoaching you are so sweet. Thank you for the kind words. It really means a lot ❤️