"He spent ages on his backstory and made sure he wasn't edgy at all." Mission failed

@davidtherwhanger6795

Жыл бұрын

My question is, WhAt ThE aCtUaL F*** DoEs He ThInK eDgY iS!!! This may be an example of that rare human that believes the Moon is the Sun with the dimmer switch on.

@KertaDrake

Жыл бұрын

Someone should put together a chart with character traits and point values to definitively test for your character being an edgelord. If you reach a certain number of points, your character is an edgelord and must replace traits with happy and friendly positive traits until their point values passes below the threshold.

Friendly reminder to all you edgelords out there, there's nothing wrong with playing an edgy character if it fits the DM's setting. It only becomes a problem if you become a problem player.

@MajorMasonGaming

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes the people die when they are killed explaination

@destroyerinazuma96

Жыл бұрын

I played edgelords... thrice. 1st was a scarred Orc Fighter who partnered with an Aacokra Monk, 2nd was a Bard veteran with PTSD, 3rd was sheltered noble Cleric running away from a curse that plagued their family and followed them. All three characters had good inter party relationships since they had the party's back I wouldn't refuse RP hooks when party members threw those my way.

@TheMightyBattleSquid

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. For a community that loooooves their tropes, edgy gets a bad rep. Things like the guy's family having "a family secret" that was more like 8 or wearing dark clothes is harmless. Saying to a character he doesn't want to settle down until he's completed his mission is common sense in and out of character. Like did the dm want him to just retire his character or were they hoping for non-adventurer household rp for the rest of the game? 😂

@JmantheCanuck

Жыл бұрын

@@MajorMasonGaming XD

Story 2: Nah he cheating, would've called it out quickly to roll where everyone can see.

@WTFisTingispingis

Жыл бұрын

He's extremely sus.

@davidtherwhanger6795

Жыл бұрын

And he probably thinks he is being so sneaky about it no one will ever know. Honestly I did know one guy that the dice gods smiled on. He rolled in the open and only when asked to, AND I EVEN GAVE HIM MY CURSED DICE, on one of the many occasions I would have him roll with some one else's dice at random. Always rolled well. (Well except for that time when his character died on their first hit by taking an anti-tank missile that blew thru his power armor like tissue paper. Couldn't auto-dodge, dodge, or roll with it to save his character's life on that one. Literally.)

@unluckyone1655

Жыл бұрын

Rolling out of sight and claiming all rolls are above 18 and 20. Yeah that is very sus.

@CameronsVideo

Жыл бұрын

It's one of those things where, since I died, I had a lot more time to sit and think about what was going on and just how blatant it had become.

"I'm not an edge lord! I'm wearing brown and green (so dark it's basically black" he's found two new colours. Vanta brown and Vanta green.

When I DMed I had a younger player with ADHD who would frequently drop out mid session, even in the middle of combat if he was rolling bad or frustrated. My solution was to give him a cursed sword. The sword contained the soul of a formerly sickly wizard who was concerned with survival. So when he dropped out I would have it that his character agreed to let the sword take control. The sword would mostly cast support and crowd control spells, still helping in combat while not taking the spotlight from the other characters. It seemed to work well and they stopped complaining when the player dropped out mid session. If the player was a no show and the party wanted to continue I had quest at the guild hall for them to earn gold, monster materials to make better weapons and mercs that help them for a cut of the reward.

Lol, I loved the green story. To be honest, I played my edgiest ranger recently. She isn’t that edgy but she’s about the amount I play for context. She was a fey wanderer. She’s human and I went variant human. Gave her the fey touched feat for it. Her rough backstory is that she fell into the feywild as a child and, with the weird time stuff from that realm, when she returned, her entire family was gone. A lot of time had passed and her family members had all died out. So she raised herself in the wild. The edgy part is that “something” followed her back out of the feywild and is canine shaped. She doesn’t know what it is but it scares her and it keeps her wandering. I play her a little reclusive but willing to lend a hand and take a risk for others if she thinks it will be helpful. She wears….a red cloak. Lol. Yes I designed a red riding hood character. I make a lot rangers and rogues. They have their figurative demons to fight but I always try to keep them open to being helpful because it’s a role I the player prefer. For a list of the various types of figurative demons I make for them, I’ll list it out. First, he is a drow with a disconnect from the culture he is perceived of having as he is surface born. He both does want to does not want to learn more. Second, a tabaxi with a tortie pattern and is male. While his main issue with remaining with his family group is that he prefers more independence the other part is that he can’t have children. His pattern and being male means he is infertile. He decides to leave and become a storyteller for his community instead, though his main job is that he does contract work for candlekeep and is a field researcher for them, cave diving and ruin hunting. Another is an orphan but she was adopted by a dragon who raised her to greatly enjoy pranks but is kind hearted and really only does these pranks to people who are mean to shopkeepers and serving staff. And I mentioned red riding hood for my next one. Now one of my most recent he was an astral elf who left what remained of his family because the faction they were part of lost out on a power struggle. He made a new home as a refugee and struggles with the grief of losing all his loved ones, a wound that has been reopened as his newest home is invaded by demonic forces and he and the party he is in just barely escape. He still deals with the grief but he was also a mentor to the two other party members so he tries to keep of a facade of being strong and cheerful (they are adults and so technically not his students anymore but he is far older than them and they were, at one point his pupils so he still kinda tries to live up to that role in their lives). He is probably my most depressed character and is supposed to be a story of dealing with burn out, ptsd, and grief.

So when I have a player missing a session, it really depends on group size. For my 5+ player group, I'll generally run their character during combat encounters, while having them "fade into the background" during roleplaying bits. If more than one is missing, I'll have them off doing something else. For smaller groups, it usually means we don't run and we get the night off. Either way, I will never let a PC die if their player isn't there for it, since they're nor making the decisions that may or may not lead to their death.

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's only when they won't return to the party, not when they miss a session

sorry but that's some real incel shit to assault a woman because you're mad at her boyfriend.

@paulman34340

Жыл бұрын

To me it sounds more like He only apologized because what he did could get him into some serious trouble and hes hoping the poster will take his apologym move on. He's not really sorry. Take it from somebody who has someone who also acts just like this j******. Difference hes my younger brother. He best get that bad behavior dealt with before he eventually does p*** off the wrong person who's gonna punching before he can finish saying why do you do that for It is freaking lying mouth

@jacksparrowismydaddy

Жыл бұрын

@@paulman34340 oh I trust ya, I also have a history with men like this. he's gonna end up on an SO list if he hasn't already.

Reminder that in order to be a DM, you must be 100% Confrontational when dealing with problems at the table, do NOT stand for nonsense like in the first story.

'Spare player', someone who only plays when someone else can't make it? And you bloody wonder why he wasn't engaged in the story.

Update to story 2: problem player found reddit post, left group chat. Was confronted by DM. Status pending.

@fred_derf

7 ай бұрын

Update?

@CameronsVideo

7 ай бұрын

@@fred_derf no longer plays in that game

Second story: it's the DMs job to make sure this sort of thing isn't happening. The dude was obviously up to something.

Usually whenever a player can’t make it for a session that I’m running, I would often say let’s wait till they come back and let someone else do a one shot or continue their other stories. That way, everyone has a chance to DM and gives me a break to plan ahead. Cause you know life happens and most of us are very busy with our schedules.

I have a simple homebrew rule for when players can't make sessions: If a PC's player is not present they walk to the corner nearest the party and go "duuur" until the player is present.

You know what? I'll say it. Edgy characters can be fun as hell! You can add a bit of edge just to spice up a character or you can go the "so edgy it's just funny" path. As long as the character can work with the group and the player is cooperative then fuck it! Let the character be edgy! I swear sometimes people are overly averse to it and will declare anything outlandish as edgy as if that makes it bad.

@mrroboshadow

Жыл бұрын

while i do agree with you i think the majority of these stories use "edgy" to refer to those players who make characters with tragic backstories for the sake of having a tragic backstory, who are brooding grumpy loners who refuse to work with a team or actively work against them

@unluckyone1655

Жыл бұрын

Edgy characters aren't bad in themselves. It's just that they get a bad reputation because most players who play them super seriously turn out to be That Guys(tm)

@Giganotus

Жыл бұрын

@@mrroboshadow yes that's why I specified "as long as they work with the group"

@Giganotus

Жыл бұрын

@@unluckyone1655 I wouldn't even say most of the people who play them are like that. They're just the ones you end up hearing about the most.

@fred_derf

7 ай бұрын

The problem is most edgelord types don't have any plan for their character's rehabilitation or redemption -- they just want to play "dark and broody" in order to mess with the rest of the payers. An edgy character can be fine as long as the player has a plan for them.

He assaulted you because he was mad at your boyfriend? I'd put him on the unredeemable list and repeat this story in the worst way possible whenever he was brought up.

"Owww what did you do that for?" "Because you threw me and we are in combat now."

I love that final story, gave me a good giggle.

So in my group of rpgs friends when a guy can't show up or is late the order is usually 1: IF its a general roleplay or light combat session They are just not there, the guy is just 'off screen' and we don't acknowledge their absence and we play on. 2: if its a major combat or otherwise skill check heavy session then someone else will control them. 3: if 2-3 guys go missing or its a critical roleplay session centered around thier char then we'll postpone until they return or just hang out in VC.

In my group if a player can’t attend the session, the DM or a more organized player runs the character. But if more than one person is not coming we usually postpone the session.

That one story, it sounds an awful like the wizard player is cheating. Big time most likely.

Usually, we plan sessions on days where everyone can play. It increases the length of time between games, but we're not in our early 20s anymore. It does sometimes happen that one of us still has to cancel last-minute due to unforseen circumstances. I don't like progressing the story too far without someone there, and we'll usually cancel or play board games instead, or even try someting else...that's how we got started on Pathfinder 2E.

First Story: Having a Spare player is stupid, you need to have a full player or as you said, some one who joins in as a guest for some sessions, as addition to the other players. If some of my players can't play do I handle it deppendent on the story we play, sometimes I swap in for the Player and being a passive character, sometimes I say, k we look for an other date, or I let the character disapper for the session. An other thing that I do is making oneshots for the others with different characters. 2nd Story: If he know how, he could even roll good when he has to roll in the open. Making Legit rolls where you roll a special outcome is easy. 4th Story: Someone have to show the Edgelord some of Green Arrows stuff, he wears Green and he is Edgy...

Instead of having a spare player, I usually try to have an extra player above what the campaign is built for. Since I typically have more friends who want to join than the number of players I usually run with, it also helps me get in an extra friend who otherwise may not get to join. If somebody can't make it, I don't need to power down encounters or alter too much, and I work with the missing player to have their character work on some background task for the session. For as long as everyone can make it, I only have to do a bit of extra prep to power up combat. No matter what, though, I don't run boss encounters nor major story beats unless everyone can make it.

For player(s) missing a session, it depends. If they aren’t plot relevant to that session or if there isn’t a big boss encounter then we play that session and put that player(s) in the background. Otherwise, we either skip that day or play some party games like Jackbox

First story seems like it ended well at least. For me, I tend to do a mix of things. Have that PC do something else, cover the rear (fighting enemies the party doesn't deal with) or just be autopiloted if we start back in the middle of a fight. For the second story... That's sus at the least. Needs to have him roll in the open like Doge said. If I was the DM I'd just buy one of those rolling boxes that you put the dice in and have it be where players roll for more 'fun' for the group when it comes to fights. That way you avoid calling people out individually but can get a better set up. Third story is just a massive jerk and straight up should have been kicked outta ops and ops (at the time) BFs life. Dude sounds like a straight up bully of the worst kind and I doubt that he'll get better without real consequences. Last story sounds like the guy wants to be edgy without realizing what edgy is. Probably has got it in his head that edgy is synonymous with awful. I have played with people who live delving into the edge for fun and they were a blast to play with. Edginess isn't always bad but own up to it like Doge said XD.

That last story is GOLD (I mean, green)

I wanna make a cursed sword that drinks blood but is super neurotic about what blood it drinks. Like it makes constant comments about how x person/goblin/dragon just doesn’t look like they’re tasty if it’s gonna be honest. “Like I get they’re the wagyu steak of dragondom but I’m more a friend chicken person if you understand me. How about mer person! I could really go for sushi right now.”

@fred_derf

7 ай бұрын

Neurotic Intelligent Magic Item... I like it!

Edgy back stories are a staple of Superhero Comic Books. That doesn't mean they're suitable for D&D (or other Fantasy based RPGs).

I don't see anything wrong with having a spare player. It's like having a more consistent guest in-case of emergencies. I've never been a "spare" but I have played the role of an emergency guest character when the DM wanted to run a tough combat (hard roll play, not a lot of roleplay) and needed extra bodies to compensate for missing players. With that being said I do agree with Doge that having a character who isn't as involved as the others in roleplay situations ain't great, especially when they're disruptive to other players. This is why my DM friend runs for his minimum party size +2, so that if one or two players miss out we can still have a decent session as long as the combat isn't too intense.

An "a$$ ult" sounds like a funny combo finisher, obvious "not good behaviour" in the story aside.

I hope the dungeon master that got assaulted in that story lived

If you're playing on-line (Roll20 or similar) then use the built in rolling mechanism. Keep the physical dice for in-person sessions.

How we deal with absent players? In our Supers game every Saturday night, if a player says they don't feel well or can't make, we make so that their character was called to say, head back to Wakanda or deal with alien tech in the UK. If one or more are missing on a Thursday night game, we just either hang out or stay home.

So when if a player is absent I put it to a vote with the group. If the group goes on, we all fill them in on what happened so they're not lost. During they session the character of the missing player is described as being in the DM protection bubble.

Notification gang!

The spare quickly caused despair for everyone.

I larp as a character who calls him self Edgelord the Idiot who wears almost exclusively green.

I know I'd be the first to admit that my vampire cleric is a bit edgy. Then again, he is my edgiest character (well, maybe my bladesinger might be slightly more edgier). Edgy characters are not bad in themselves, as long as the player playing them doesn't get main character syndrome, be a That Guy(tm), and keep the cringe at manageable levels.

@suruthebeast4065

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this.

"This is when I realized the Spare was a min-maxing meta-gamer. I really should have been involved when he made his character, because after looking at the stats, I realize he used pointbuy to maximize HP and damage values while leaving all the attributes unrelated to combat in his class in the negatives." If having 16 strength and constitution is considered min-maxing and meta-gaming, then a variant human would make DMs head explode.

I would have just rolled my dice if I was the DM in story 1, not recognizing the guest player's dice rolls for the DM.

@fred_derf

7 ай бұрын

We've rolled damage dice for our DM many times (with their approval), but I'm in a high-powered high-level campaign and damage rolls can be 2d8+3d6+12d6+20. So it saves time having the players rolling it and adding it all up while the DM works on something else. Having to roll huge numbers of dice isn't unusual for our group, my 27th level Rouge can fire six arrows in a single round and the sneak attack damage from that alone is 84d6. Edit: I have an LibreOfficeCalc spreadsheet to roll my attacks and damage, saves massive amounts of time.

@Keiji555

7 ай бұрын

@@fred_derf I get that. And wow, that's high. Never played in a campaign that high. But yeah, that is a good point on your end.

@fred_derf

7 ай бұрын

@@Keiji555, writes _"And wow, that's high. Never played in a campaign that high."_ It's definitely different, I can regularly deal 400+ hps per round, with sneak attack damage apply again at the start of my next round. One of our arcane spells casters can routinely hand out over 1,000 in a single round by using a belt of battle and other tricks. It's a lot of work for our DM, and very tricky trying to balance encounters.

Aw man i remember how awesome warrior within was

Edgelords don’t wear green? Have you seen the og Evil Green Ranger from MMPR?!

The edgiest stuff I've seen has been from green txt, so I don't know what that player was on about 'green not edgy!'

Spare player is a giant D(several words would fit here). And as to D making a roll for the DM - son just don't. Okay Nipsy, I'll like and comment - like I could refuse you cutie cat. Also, don't hit people, don't be violent - or racist, or sexist, or homophobic - son just don't.

Yeah no. Rolling high numbers is one thing, but *always* getting 20+? Most definitely cheating.

Well, she already had the fish so I had to become a subscriber

I'm gonna be honest, I have a lot of doubts that story 3 isn't over-dramatized. I'm not gonna say OP wasn't hurt, and the That Guy wasn't a problem, but the way it's described sounds more like That Guy is a caricature than an actual person. My guess is that OP's head was hurt *accidentally* in a struggle over the phone. ...That Guy was probably still a massive prick tho.

*reads video title* Wow. Hopefully the DM kicked him/her out for attacking him/her.

Edgelords can wear green if they want to.

"Edgelords don't wear green" Um Tommy and Evil Tommy from Power Rangers disagree the OG Green Rager was edgy also even white can be edgy because in Dino Thunder the White Ranger has a similar story and then there is in the comics Lord Darkon his main color was Green and he is probably the most edgy Power Ranger villain ever

Have them pull a Mark

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i can see why he overeacted though if it was my phone id react badly ngl no one lays a finger on it without my permission and goes unpunished

@snonyabeeswax

10 ай бұрын

you cant try to touch someone elses phone and not expect a bad reaction if you dont even get permission first that was the dumbest thing to try to do

Sub can be fine but should follow not being a dmpc rules, npcs are more convenient but if you have an eager player that could do the same/ treat it as a test run that's great. If you are willing to confront them.

Story 2 Dude is cheating and this is why DM’s have a sort of “roll in front of the table” or a dice tower.

The "Spare" story is cringe. I play enabler builds to laugh as party members go full crazy and I just make the best of it. That guy players dictator builds to speedrun combat.

The spare sounds like a problem, but keeping him as a spare feels like you're leading him on a bit

Assault

Dawwww Nipsy

You're playing a game, not writing a book. There doesn't nor should there nerd to be a narrative reason for a missing player.

Never pay for playing rpg, don't normalize that bunk. It's a hobby not a vehicle for personal gain and greed. If you need money to play, find a new hobby as you clearly don't enjoy it enough to just play.

I've learned that the phrases "you're too sensitive, snowflake" are ment to cover up and downplay abusive behavior and pushing boundaries.

100th like, noice

Seventh

Skipping a session when a person can’t make it, yes, but do stay in touch with the other players. Especially if it’s via discord. Also- Communicate 🥹 Communication is key. Don’t just plan a session with everyone only to then not show up, and proceed to very obviously ghost your players and mods when they @you.

*assault

@starbird3939

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking that… but maybe he misspelled it to get around KZread’s dumb guidelines

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