DIY Kit Shed Build Lessons Learned Q&A - Forme Industrious
Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль
Recently I posted a video of my Kit Shed build and I had a lot of questions and requests for a lessons learned style video. Keep in mind, this does not include the slab, I paid a contractor to do that. It was a lot of hard work abut I thoroughly enjoyed the process and I'd do it all again.
This video talk is based on my experience with the Kit Shed build. There are many ways to go about projects. You decide what is best for you and your application. Do your own research and be responsible for your own risk management. So here it is.
The Shed - 20 m x 7m x a height of 4m. Portal frame/ Colour Bond walls and roof. I won't promote the Shed Manufacture - They don't deserve it based on their post sales service and fault resolution efforts 9or lack of it).
Tools - Basic list (I bought a lot of my specialist tools second hand, cheap)
- Tape Measures. Long 30m (length of building at least) and a smaller one say 8m.
- Builders Square/s (Large and small)
- String line
- Clamps
- Tie Down Straps or bracing
- Battery Drill/ impact drill and spare batteries
- Hammer Drill for concrete
- Sockets and Spanners
- Tek Screw drivers and spares
- Marker Pens and pencils
- Box cutter
- Spirit level
- Tin snips or metal shears
- Metal file (Fine)
- some sort of vice fixture
- Tarpaulins or cover material to keep tools dry.
- Workstand
- Ladder
- Crow Bar
- Plumb Bob or Laser Level
- Holes saws for gutter downpipes and door lock sets.
I hope this all helps. The kits are like a big Mecanno set.
Regards
Scott
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Well done Scott. Loved the old ozzie venacular ;-) I know where you are coming from..... built my 17.5 x 7 kit (with a little help) about 20 years ago. Last year I built two igloos (by myself) and then had a crane lift them to connect to the top of each side of a 40 foot HC container. Did the concrete on one side myself before I called it quits and got a pro for $1800 labour (I paid for all materials) who did a 12m x 6m slab in virtually one day. I celebrated my 80th birthday with my twin brother last Saturday so I don't think I'll be building anything so substantial again.. Thank you for all your advice. You are a wealth of true knowledge.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Malcolm and also for your Brother! Thanks as always for your message.
Great video! Thanks so much for posting. I look forward to seeing more of your goings on at the new homestead. Thumbs up!
That’s a piece of heaven right there. Congratulations y’all !! Dallas Texas
I wish I'd been able to get ahold of you before you started on the roofing and siding panels. There's a great way (for future reference?) to substantially reduce your metal dust from the Tek screws. Before you move your 1st sheet off of the stack, do this. Use a piece of framing lumber at least ast wide as the panels to tap then all into the tightest alignment of the ends as is possible using a sledge to hit the wood which in turn will move any sheets sticking out a mm or more back into alignment with the rest of the stack. Do this from both ends several times, if necessary. Then use a Quick clamp with plastic/rubber grips, at each end, to prevent the sheets from sliding. Once the stack is even, use a straight-edge and framing square or a drywall T-square and layout the lines where you want to drive the Tek screws. Then, use an old awl, sharpened straight punch, ice pick, whatever, and punch holes through as many layers as is reasonable on your penciled lines. You still have metal "dust" from the gerts and joists, but not the sheet metal panels. And if you can't punch all the way through, "rinse and repeat" as we say here in the US. Namaste
@stephenbow3292
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, Mate In Australia we Tek screw the peaks.... Not the valleys as to reduce water leaks unlike the practices used in the USA. Using a awl to punch the ridge bends the sheets, it is hard and time consuming to push a piece of lumber strip down every one to punch them. Just Tek them and sweep the roof off before attaching the gutter.
@scottbrownley9594
Жыл бұрын
Good point Mark, I used to build sheds in South Australia years ago and we used to tap the sheet piles at one end with a hammer with a 4x4 inbetween to protect the sheets like you say and then measure the gert distances down the top sheet and pre drill for the tech screws. Saves heaps of work and saves swarf from scratches as well as potential rust. Scott, great vids mate, gee your face looks familiar. Im looking at moving interstate atm and then doing the same as you so im keen to follow your adventures.
Great stuff Scott. Daunting for sure but also comes with a big sense of achievement!
Well done Scott, green with envy. My 10' x 10' shed was home built with the help of sons, brother and wife....best team yet. Cheers and looking forward to next stage of fit out etc.
Great break down. There's nothing safe or easy about it, but it's one of those experiences that really makes for some great memories. I can't wait to see what comes next!
I couldn't be happier for you and the journey you're on. I'm looking forward to following along!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Barry!
Great job Scott! Very informative and interesting video. I thought our prices were high here in the US. Wow! I look forward to seeing the rest of your homestead come together. Cheers Mate!
That was so good to know Scott - the licensing, research into suppliers, tools and support for building such a beast. Thank you for being so generous with your hard earned knowledge. I am really looking forward to the fitout, off-grid power, water, drainage, sewage etc.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure Benny, thanks for your message!
@craigdavies8099
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious Hey Scott, another great video thanks. I just wanted to mention a problem I had with our water in the tank from the new shed roof. Our water became harsh and after testing the PH it was 4.2. Obviously that's too low and acidic. It turned out to be bark and leaves from 2 nearby gum trees. I installed Marley leaf diverters and they do work but the main cause was the gutters sagging and then trapping water in puddles. When those puddles had gum leaves or bark in it, it sat there and stewed. Flushing pipes and water blasting the gutters has solved the problem but is a constant pain in the a**, when we are low on firewood the very messy gums will be chopped! I see you are surrounded by gums... funny that, being Australia and all!!
I love your adventure Scott, looking forward to the cottage build!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Without being there you have given your workstation a wonderful atmosphere. I thank you for taking the time to share it with us. Play safe from Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott!!
Scott, well done. Will be watching for more.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter!
Built a large back deck after lifting my house and building underneath and I know how much of a hero you are getting it all together and making it work Well Done
Fantastic run through Scott 👌🏻 nice to see all the reality involved in a project like this and what needs to be undertaken. A brilliant achievement, and a fine workshop/ shed too. I can’t wait to see the next project! as always thanks for all your time and effort in sharing these videos 👍🏻 good on you
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brendan!!
@gavinpearce7387
11 ай бұрын
Agreed, What Brendan said
I really appreciate these videos. I have 2.5 acres and this is something I have been contemplating doing also being a dIY/maker myself. I really appreciate the shared wisdom. I look forward to the upcoming projects.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Dwain. I'm glad you can get some useful information from the video.
Excellent video, very informative, thank you🙂
Great content again Scott. I’m so looking forward to your cottage build! Hurry up, I need something decent to watch, as all of your videos always are fantastically detailed and I’m sure that will always be the case. Great work as usual. I Wish you and the family good health and happiness to enjoy what you are creating Scott. All the best.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Awesome message Franko thank you! I'm trying to get a start on the cottage, lots of loose ends to tie up back home.
Once again a great video Scott and that shed is fantastic. Great job mate
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I'm looking at starting out with a 2nd hand donga for accomodation (I'd live in a tent if it came down to it because I spent a lot of my life under canvas) while I get some sheds etc up. I'm probably looking at doing most of the work myself and seeing your jib boom and workstand has given me some good ideas on what I'll need to look into. Thanks for the breakdown on all of the 'background' stuff.
What a SUPERLATIVE sequential and easy to follow presentation Scott. Better late than never to find yr channel and get some sorely needed advice as we are half way thru our first build. Both of us are confident and experienced with tools, yet metal is a whole new ball game for me. Those tips on sweeping the roof and all metal shavings really confirmed my instincts, especially for our 2 x border collies. We are Blackbutt way so similar weather and conditions, yr videos are perfect stepping stones for us. Hubby is going to love them too. You Getting straight to the point!……lots of Brownie points 👍🇦🇺
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you! I hope your build comes together okay. All the best!
HeyScott, love your shed mate. I’m just finishing off my kit shed, 10 x 10 and the same height as yours. Can’t wait to move all of my tools and set it up. I’ve only just found your channel recently and I’m really impressed with your content. Keep it coming.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Lots more to come, cheers!
Very informative video for someone faced with this task. You fail to give yourself enough credit Scott. You are the type of person that can probably do anything that you put you mind to as evidenced by the many project videos you have produced. Can't wait to see the rest of this adventure.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Awe thanks Jim! I try my best. All the best.
Well done on the move to off the grid living 👏
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Scott I feel like I’ve been following you for years and it just seems to get better. The Shed looks amazing. Looking forward to more videos-just wish they were more often:))) best wishes from the UK
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your message! I'd like to do more videos too but stuff gets in the ways I guess. All the best!
Scott, thank you for taking the time to make this video! It will serve as a reference as I get closer to building my "Forever Shop" with friends and family Assistants who do not have the building experience I do. Much more valuable for them to watch a video of your insightful thoughts than listen to my random yammering--ha! All the best, Drew
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Hey Drew! Even having extra arms and legs makes all the difference as you know. Carrying, holding etc. You just have to make sure you feed them well :) All the best and see you next time.
Love your work Scott! Keep. It up :D
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou! Will do
Thank you. Excellent work
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter!
Great talk Scott thank you . Cheers from dwn Sth
Fantastic video, thanks Scott. really informative and a great help for shed building here is Aussie Land.
Looking forward to the journey.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Espectacular taller nuevo! Felicitaciones Scott! Que lindos lugares donde viven, también Jimmy Diresta vive en un lugar con tantos árboles, hermoso. Un abrazo desde Buenos Aires!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
¡Gracias! Conozco la casa de campo de Jimmy Diresta. Tuve la suerte de haber visitado a Jimmy en su casa de campo en 2017. ¡Grandes abrazos!
love watching your vidios. you are a joy to watch.keep up the great work.from tennessee.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy!!
Hola amigo. Evidentemente estás explicando el por qué de tu nuevo taller y también indicando los contratiempos que has tenido que sortear hasta concluir esta obra. Todo desafío exige esfuerzos más allá de nuestras propias fuerzas pero...existe ese motor generador interno que nos sigue motivando, no cómo una cierta obsesión compulsiva y sí como un propósito a ser alcanzado. La fuerza de voluntad sumada a la persistencia es quién se lleva los méritos, en este caso...tú. Eres del tipo de persona 4 x 4, todo terreno. Sigo admirando tu determinación y constancia. Mis felicitaciones y recordemos que para un problema siempre debemos encontrar al menos 3 soluciones y que cada una de ellas llegue al mismo camino, que alcance nuestro objetivo. Un fuerte abrazo, desde San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, México, mi nuevo hogar. Conseguí una hermosa casa en medio del Bosque, a 2.500 metros sobre el nivel del mar! Me atrevo a decir que somos de esa raza... todo terreno! 😆
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Sim, de fato, sempre há muitas soluções para um problema, como você diz com razão. Obrigada! Parece que você tem um lugar maravilhoso na floresta tropical. Tanta beleza no mundo. Obrigado novamente por sua mensagem pensativa, e tudo de bom!
Thank you for your "birds eye view". I enjoy your wit and humor. Would of asked, would you do it again? But you answer with a cottage. So good luck and I will be watching for sure.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Yes I'd do it again. I enjoyed the build!
Great vid Scott, aftersales and owning up to mistakes sets a good company apart from the rest. Nice one fella, looks smashing. Greetings from Scotland.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree Andrew, thank you!
Perfect breakdown on what it takes! I built my 5x8m (+3m carport) last year - I saved $5k building it myself, I figured if I can’t build my own workshop do I need one? 😂😂 I used a local supplier for the reasons you outlined, lucky to just have a delayed window not anything major. Get extra screws is the only extra point I would add, a few blunt ones made it harder. Always great videos mate, watching on with interest cheers
Excellent video
well done Mr Turner!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim!
Good to see you back mate. Good choice of beer there 🍻
I could listen to Scott talk about the weather for a full hour lol
Great video Scott.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. Hope you are enjoying your trip
Салам. Excellent family. Great work. Real master💪👍
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Robert!
That's one of the neatest and cleanest shed builds I seen. Great job. I bet it would be no where near as good as that if you paid someone.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Wozzie!
Awesome work
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
15 күн бұрын
Thank you!
Great video!!
Bravooo,ai o voință de fier 👏👏👏👏👍
you are amazing, I loved very informative, I want to do something like that here in mt isa old. thanks you are great.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles. Glad to help.
Great video! A lot of people think that a barn can be built in 35 minutes, as in the video. And when they start doing it at their site, they are very surprised that this is not the case 😀 A story about the preparation, prices, tools and documents will help many to avoid mistakes and do everything beautifully. There are a lot of nuances and thank you for telling me about them. P.S. Why are you deceiving by saying that you are from Australia? In Australia, people walk upside down and I didn't see a single kangaroo 😁
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Haha, yes we do walk upside down. It's just camera trickery :) We have heaps of roos. I'll try and include more wild life on the next adventure.
@Glitch1369
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you - this is suspect. Simple camera trickery is easy to fake. I call BS as nothing (NOTHING!) tried to kill him or any helpers. No baby-eating dingoes. No face eating spiders. Not a single magpie attack. Good video, but, like the US moon landing, done on a movie set in the jungles of Venezuela.
@Perspari
Жыл бұрын
He has obviously flipped the footage. Regarding the kangaroos, due to them refusing to wear safety flip flops, work health and safety regulations state 'you may not have unflipflopped roos at a building site being filmed'. Thank you for your concern. Great video btw
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
@@Perspari our Roos are impossible to manage, but they can fight, so we leave them alone ;)
You literally remind me of my uncle he also lives in Townsville hahaha good work mate keep the content coming you've got a reel knack behind the camera I'm definitely along for the journey
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Great to have you along for the journey, thanks!
The problem with testimonials is, what supplier is going to put up on their website a review like "yeah, I went with these guys and they really screwed me by not having my base brackets and then not lifting a finger to help me out of a jam". This was a great project and I thoroughly enjoyed the documentary of your build. Although I hate your bathroom!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Very true Alan. Glad you liked the video despite the bathroom :)
Good sound advice mate.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
19 күн бұрын
Cheers Mark!
Very exciting times 👍👍😎👍👍
Hi Scott, I really enjoyed this. I've boxed up a few slabs for shed ( and even small garden sheds) ( principal is still the same/ small or large, with what I do) When I box the perimeter, I box it 50mm bigger ( 2"for US readers) . So after the main boxing is done, I fit 70mm x 25mm (not nominal off the shelf size but I do or use whatever to get down to about 25mm, because the wall sheets profile measurs about 17mm ish to all perimeter boxing. ( stop and starts at roller doors It's fitted flush with the top of the boxing. This is so the outside wall sheets, sit on a ledge. It looks neater and keeps mice out ( apart from the fact that mice can probably find a way in at the roller doors). Concretors do a good job of place and finish, but not so good ( I'm talking tweaking a slab) on the boxing design. For the roller door , I add some extra boxing so the door recesses down below floor level / probably to outside path/ driveway level approx 30mm below floor level . This helps keep out rain.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Glenn. Yes that is a good technique. Will be using that for the next build in Jan. The roller door on this shed has a ramp formed into it to help with water etc.
good vid mate cheers Paul
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Paul thank you!
Great work Scott, about to start our build and really like the work stand you made to substitute the scissor lift. Would you be able to give the dimensions, our shed ridge height will be 4.2. Love the off grid videos.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
9 ай бұрын
Thanks Kristoff. I'm away right now. Look up my about pages in YT and email me. I'll try and email back my sketch of the workstand.
Good stuff looking at doing the same one day
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Like a big Mechano set.
Great video Scott. Some great tips in there for sure. What I would like to know is how you convinced you good lady the right way to go was shed first? My better 3/4ers would be worried I would be happy living in the shed and the house would stay in plan form for many years while I perfected the shed layout. I am thinking looking at yours a mezzanine at one end for living area, job done. 😁
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Hey Doug. Judy said maybe we live in the shed, I said no way mate! This is my workshop haha. We'll build a little cottage (I call it the Chook House) where the visitors can stay and build a house further up the block. Spot on with the Mezz floor, part of the plan. All the best!
@dougsaunders8109
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious very understanding lady your wife 😁. All the best Scott
Great insight thanks
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you as always!!
I still have a set of metal shears I got when I worked for titan garages in brisbane in the mid 90's, I found them to be pretty good on quality control back then
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
I think the suppliers systems are pretty good. The product is also good but the missing link is when something goes wrong no one wants to fix the problem with any urgency unfortunately. I'm sure if their suppliers did the same to them they would have something to say about it.
I would STRONGLY, if there's ANY WAY AT ALL possible, to either have someone out to spray 65-75 mm of closed-cell insulation to totally enclose the shed. If it's not reasonable to hire it done, you can buy unmixed spray kits and do it yourself! Good on ya for takin' life by the horns and going walk about to your own drum!
@deploracon4740
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm… maybe not. Check out Belinda’s vids on the subject, this is just one & she’s done a few on other insulation media - kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKSYsshwhJuqfqQ.html
Hi Scott, thanks for sharing your knowledge, great content! I'm looking for a similar land in QLD, and a bit confused with legal issues, permissions, zoning, etc. Can you please give advice what zonning would be optimal to look for? A similar block of land, without connections to utilities, with trees, permission for dwelling and living there permanently and have small garden, and permission to clean some trees for dwelling and garden.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
9 ай бұрын
Thank you Alexey. Every region/ council may differ however I guess you are looking for Rural land and you would need to check with council on development. I don't think it's a one size fits all scenario. A big tip though is to look at environmental overlays. Some rural land may have zones that prohibit any development and you would be buying the land purely for conservation purposes. It nearly happened to us because the land we looked at initially had a Red Throated Finch spotted on it, therefor we couldn't build on it. I think you are permitted to clear trees for a dwelling or building. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
@alex-craft
9 ай бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious thanks for quick reply! Best wishes! :)
Hi Scott. We are doing similar things as well. Did you have to get council approval for the build, soil testing? Cheers mate. (love the videos by the way)
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes council approved but no soil test required as it is a 10a building not a house.
I bought a Titan shed 18mths ago. I contacted Titan to do the slab and construction. I paid all the progress payments. Come day of the build the installation was delayed because the frames were incorrect and components missing. Despite the delays, I’m glad they sorted it out as had I bought a kit and built it myself I imagine I would have been left alone and frustrated. I’m happy with the end product, but, they were happy to take my money on their strict schedule!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that a lot of people are having problems similar or worse than I. Well at least they took ownership of the problems and that is all we ask. Cheers!
So true Scott. We are half way thru building our 2 car shed on our block. Stratco had delivered 1/3 of our shed kit 2x months early…which caused a huge issue, changed the brackets since printing their drawings. Damaged parts, missing parts, wrong gutter brackets We have no measurement detail on the roller doors, only 1 x of many issues we have had . I wouldn’t buy another stratco.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Since posting this video I have heard a lot of people have had issues with their kits. A real shame and a lot of frustration at the customer end of the deal.
Thanks .. really interesting to see the similarities and differences between Aussie and NZ. I'm half way through a 18 x 9. Building permit $2800nzd (rip off) Shed kit ($43K) support from supplier (nearly zero after the final payment was made) Mistakes by the supplier - ongoing! Like the stand you made. I have a mobile scaffold ..but getting up and down is harder than your stair platform. I'd be interested to know how you cut the thicker portal steel or if you didn't have too? The third downs to hold the portals looked good but how did you stop them slipping off the top of the peg at ground level? When you cut your gable end iron, did you put it up mark and the take id down to cut or measure, mark and cut ..then put up? Did you use Vermin strip at the bottom .. Could we see a photo of that installed if you did. Cheers ..place looks great.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Alistair! Yes the fees are nuts, they just keep adding to them over the years. I was looking for scaffolding but found it too expensive to buy second hand and yes getting up and down all the time is more difficult. I didn't have to cut the portal frame, only the Mullions. I used a 100 mm Angle grinder and 1mm cut off disc. For the tie downs I used Reo bar at an angle of about 45 degrees (or a little less). the straps held on to the reo notches I guess. for the sheets I placed them on the building and marked them off, then cut. I've yet to put the vermin proofing on. Vermiseal I think they call it. Hope this helps.
G'day mate , did the shed frame wobble at all prior to putting the wall and roof sheets on it
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
9 ай бұрын
Hi Edy. Yes a bit. The bracing firms the build up a lot, but sheeting makes it all pretty solid.
So with a reasonably skilled off-sider you're making $50,000 a month! (Okay, less weekends, evenings and bad weather plus more kit, bookwork, advertising, dealing with clients, and most of all poor motivation when it's not yours and just a job!) Great job, Scott!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it! Thank you!
Hi Scott, love your style - I'm about to build a 13.5 meter * 6 meter shed - any chance you could tell me about your "roller skate" ladder ?
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
10 ай бұрын
Thank you! If you can weld and cut metal, make a work stand that will allow you to reach the top Roof Purlins and low enough to do the eaves etc. If you see mine in the videos you get the idea. I made a detachable safety rail for lower work. Hope this helps.
Hi Scott Nice videos mate, not sure how you have the patience to film when building. I'm in Mareeba/Biboohra building a 15x20 shed at the moment with a height of 5.2m, i would like to know where you got a scissor for $100 a day?... My kit was $54k fully insulated glass sliding door and two roller doors 4x windows and PA door. We are also in the same position as you with land and minimal accommodation. Would be good to catch up one day and share some ideas on builds and property ideas. Cheers Mal
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Hi Malcolm. Sounds like a good shed you have. Should have decent sized portals. TA hire ( just off Grove st Atherton) from memory. But they sub leased it from Mareeba as theirs was booked out. For sure happy to catch up some time when I'm in town, just send me a message when you're ready.
@malcolmbridge5910
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious Hi Scott Sure mate no worries, the portals are 300c's. The Malanda show is on Tomorrow let me know if you are heading over and i will say g'day. Cheers Mal
Milwaukee shears game changers
awesome
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
6 күн бұрын
Thanks!
Are you going solar with your shed and house? Be interesting to see install..... I just got a shed built with a company here in Cairns, but much smaller than yours, 9x6 m. Getting close to install electrics now. Decided to use 50mm conduit for underground to allow for future upgrades. intend to use 15amp power point for scissor lift and 10amp for rest, milling machine etc. Hopefully house main board in ready for it.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Yes, going solar for the shed and house. Hopefully we'll have the shed with solar and batteries before the end of the year. I'll do the install in a YT video. Cheers.
If you're looking at shed builders, a good price estimate is it should cost approx 30% of the shed flat pack price. Noting that finding a shed builder (let alone a good one!) is very difficult currently!!! Also note best sheds use a different steel (and don't use colorbond) so it's more like 50% of the flat pack price
Hey Scott. Question on the owner builder license; does that only cover the shed build, or can you use it for projects further down the track that you haven’t planned yet?
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Hey Robin! On my licence application I included 3 buildings. You don't have to have all the plans but you have to briefly describe the basic construction of each; i.e. steel portal framed shed (size). But if you don't include it in your initial application then I think it's very hard to do retrospectively. The licence lasts for 6 years.
@Justins_shed
Жыл бұрын
G’day Robin (and Scott). Last year I researched the owner-builder scenario in a NSW council area. I found that the council would accept only one development application from an individual owner-builder in any five-year period. So if you wanted to do several buildings on one property, they would have to all be approved at the outset in the DA. Another way of looking at it is that while the owner-builder permit is issued by the state government, all the building work is council-controlled. Of course, the rules in each state and council may be different.
@RobinLewisMakes
Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, great info! When I looked into it last year I noticed that rule and hoped I’d misinterpreted it. I was looking at it as a way of doing more renos on my place, but clearly that’s not what it’s for. Thanks again
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Thanks, looks like 40x40 square tubing 1.6mm wall thickness ? OH yeah Tig Mig Stick everything from Aluminium copper stell and so on Thanks again
This is great prospective! So are you satisfied with the steel construction? For a workshop it’s a great idea, I can’t help to wonder your opinion of a partial timber construction… maybe for the cabin? Idk how much lumber costs there but a packet of shims cost me a kidney last week, I’m kidding. Thanks again for this overview, well done.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Juston! Yes very happy with the steel. In the Australian bush we have a lot of white ant (Termites) that can cause big problems so steel works pretty good. Steel and timber prices have gone crazy in the last 18 months. I lose heaps of commissions as the material costs are so high unfortunately.
@justonsvoid
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious welp… here’s to hoping things get better on the markets, thanks for getting back to me.
Thanks for the recap. Any idea how much the the project would cost now? Costs here in America are going through the roof. I can't ballpark ANYTHING anymore as prices are going up, Up, UP daily.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, no, not sure but probably another 10%. Cost of fuel is going up fast and so is everything else. A lettuce costs $12 aud. World has gone nuts.
Hey Scott, why did you put the water tank at that end? Would it not have been better and more concealed at the other end? It would have also provided you with better access around the “carport” end.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Hi Russell, the other end didn't have quite enough space as the pad starts to slope away unfortunately. I'll put my shipping container on that far end. It fits.
shaping uo to be a great series of build videos, only 1 simple question for me. 1. how far away are you from "Other" humans??
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Awesome - thank you! 5 kms to Herberton (Nearest town). About 1klm to a Roadhouse and about 70 meters to my neighbour. We have a good spot.
First tip: viewers, check out essential craftsman for an excellent series on house building start to finish including lot prep. He is now building a shed with the intent of explaining the process. Your shed is way better than mine. Funny fact, my shed only has 10 foot walls but i'm afraid of heights so it was quite a challenge to climb around in the trusses, etc.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Good tip! Oh yes if you are afraid of heights then it would be hard for sure.
Is that roof insulation serving you well during the summer ? I also noticed you didn't insulate the walls either. Must get pretty hot in there right ?
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
5 ай бұрын
The roof insulation works well and it does need wall insulation. I should have put it in. Also the skylights let in a lot of heat energy. I'd rather not have them in summer. Winter everything is perfect. Yes it can get warm in there when all the doors are shut. Doors open it cools down pretty well.
@tonymontana897
5 ай бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious I'm still trying to figure out which way to go with mine. I want to use Anticon blanket for the roof to negate the rain noise but I also want it to keep the heat out. Some use that air cell stuff, but it doesn't insulate for noise all that well. Anticon blanket resists noise but not so much heat as it's only an R 1.3 for the 60mm. I'd like to use 100mm if I can get it to compress enough under the sheets. I'd definitely use the air cell stuff for the walls though. I'm going to give Bradford a call and see what they recommend. I don't want to have to do a retro fit if I can help it.
Great stuff, long time no talk, what's happened to the makers group, it seems to have gone dormant, or is that just me? I'm extending my workshop at present to house a heap of new tools, WRT accuracy I posted this recently on FB. "In general with this sort of work I aim for millimeter accuracy, aren't too unhappy with centimeter accuracy, and eventually live with inch accuracy 😁"
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
I love you quote :) The Maker Group, not sure? For me being in the bush a lot these day I have very poor internet (Regular Posts). I'll have to sort that out soon. Cheers!
If you would suggest investing in one significant piece of equipment given your other shed build as well what would it be? And you could keep it of sell it at the end.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
8 күн бұрын
Good question; A Workstand or mobile scaffolding that allows you to reach safely all parts of the build. This will save you $$ on hiring a scissor lift apart from perhaps a couple of days. Lifting the frames you either have a lot of help or hire a machine. Roofing with insulation is tough work without a scissor lift but it can be done. I made my own work stand and I'm glad I did. I've kept it and used it plenty of times for various projects, but it can be sold once I no longer need it.
Thanks for the video. I have a bad back and a problem with heights so I will not be building my own but you are correct. The erection costs are significant. Your erection costs might have been so high due to the location. Closer to a major city is not as extreme. I found your insights very interesting.
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Hey Scott. Where did you source your windows from?
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Ай бұрын
For the Shed House? (Shed/ workshop has no windows). The Windows for the Shed House came as part of the Shed Kit from Wayne Laverty Quality Sheds NQ.
Scott, how do I create a seal inside the outer edges? The gaps are insane.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
I used a product called Vermiseal. It closes off the gap from the sheeting to the slab. I had to put this in later as my wall sheets were cut a fraction too long.
@elwood212
Жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve noticed this is the case on every shed I’ve looked at inc all the showroom sheds. Cheers I’ll check it out
@elwood212
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious CHEERS MATE ! 👍
Its hard to get stuff done north of gympie Be careful of 1080 poison if you are in rural areas. Birds will pick the baits up and drop them miles away from the original baiting spot.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
True! I haven't used any poison at all. I hope not to but I appreciate the tip, cheers!
@the.parks.of.no.return
Жыл бұрын
@@ScottTurnerformeindustrious I'd seen ages ago they had been spreading it up near herveys range lookout.
I have just completed a 150 square metre shed earlier this year. I like your videos however in this case I think you are over estimating how much you save by building it yourself. I got the impression you reckon you saved $30K-$40K by building it yourself. I am locatated on the NSW Mid North Coast. Your cost for the concrete slab was almost identical to mine on a per square metre basis (assuming you went 40mpa and 125mm thick) . My Shed kit was $34,500 and it is 4 metres at the gutters and roughly 5 metres at the top. The shed company told me at the outset that the cost for them to put it up was very roughly about one third of what ever kit I went with. At the end of the day they charged me $11K, which included the hire of a heavy duty diesel scissor lift for a week and a few hours hire of a truck crane to stand the frames. The bloke that put it up had his wife with him and a young bloke helping him. He also had a older smaller electric scissor lift. We were interupted by wet weather quite a bit but it took them 5-6 days to get it up, not counting downtime due to wet weather. I get the fact that you can get enormous satisfaction by putting up yourself and that you didn't have a job to go to so there was not opportunity cost to you, but for mine sometimes there is real value in getting proffessionals to do the job, as they have the experience and know-how, with all the tips and tricks you can only get by doing something over and over. I sealed my slab with a clear sealer and if I was doing it again I would go with a coloured sealer like you did just because a coloured sealer would hide a few more of the imperfection and marks on the slab. A tip I would give anyone who is going to build a shed is build the biggest shed you can, even if you think it will be way too big, trust me it won't be. No one has ever said "gee, I wish I built a smaller shed."
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and sharing your experience. Slab was 100mm but a bit more on the sides but I cannot remember the MPA right now. I got quotes of 94k. Labour and materials have skyrocketed I' sad to say. I love to build. Great advice on going bigger with the shed. It's all about the affordability and build ability without special equipment. I I was able to I would have a warehouse. Thanks again!
Hi Scott, Just wondering if some kit sheds in Australia, source their steel from India. I don't know, but steel from India, is inferior. It's gotta be BHP steel.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Not sure. I think the steel is supplied through Strammit
Mate, great shed! You have to be an ex school woodwork teacher?
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I only taught at a tech college for a short while (fitting)
what was the thickness of the slab (shed slab)?
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
Minimum thickness is 100mm but most is over 110mm and a bit deeper on the edges.
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Customer service in Australia is some of the worst around. Yes there a few businesses that are starting to realise what customer service is but sadly the majority are lacking. Many vendors I frequent are truly annoyed that I walked into their shop. Go figure....
Perhaps it's just the way things are now, but 100k for a shed strikes me as insane?!
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
It is for sure! Sign of the times unfortunately.
Great video . . . punk.
If you are getting a laser, a green one is probably better visible in most circumstances.
@ScottTurnerformeindustrious
Жыл бұрын
True.