"Goku's too honorable to exploit Superman's weakness to Kryptonite" "Oh, but Green Lantern is totally fine with murdering a 10 year old"

@EmpCalick

3 жыл бұрын

Well, it is death battle so anything goes....wait a minute....THATS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT

@four-en-tee

3 жыл бұрын

@@EmpCalick Death Battle: Where anything goes, except when it doesn't.

@stegoshark5116

3 жыл бұрын

to be fair, those episodes are a decent amount of time apart and things do change

@Necroxion

3 жыл бұрын

@@stegoshark5116 something closer then: "Goku is too honorable to exploit Superman's weakness to Kryptonite" "But Spider-man is perfectly fine with murdering some guy dressed as a bat"

@CyberneticStreetrunner

3 жыл бұрын

The ring wouldn’t let him- and this ain’t The DawnBreaker lantern-

“The whole episode is a small part of the episode”

@nuzlockecomics5440

3 жыл бұрын

People need to look at the big picture smh

@rocklettf2die664

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuzlockecomics5440 the big picture is a small part of the episode

@jjthe13th

3 жыл бұрын

People just judge a whole episode based on the episode. Such petty nitpicking smh

@gillettematch3188

3 жыл бұрын

what if the episode was in reality the friends we make along the way?

@sunnyrainyday6820

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly tell me that if I scaled 99% of Mt. Everest and never touched the summit that’s in the last 1% of mountain, I can claim I have conquered Mt. Everest

Fun fact about alien x. They try to debunk his universal durability while showing him literally not flinching or reacting to the annihilarg literally destroying the universe around him. So by the evidence showed in the video Alien X could have the universe being destroyed around him and he wouldn't even feel it. Or they tried to debunk his power saying he couldn't stop a bomb that had already gone off. The equivalent would be saying the bomb squad can't defuse a bomb because a bomb exploded before they go there.

@KazumaVL

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the thing about the annihilarg is that ben didn't knew that that little box was indeed an universe destroying bomb so he didn't do anything but the second time the annihilarg blew up he did react and stopped the big bang with feedback

@patrickadetola4153

3 жыл бұрын

That's never debunked his universal durability they took that into consideration in the analysis and confirmed it what they didn't believe was his multiversal durability where there wasn't enough evidence to support it.And them saying he couldn't stop the bomb off was basically prove that he wasn't this omnipotent being everyone made him out to be since he had so many ways to save the universe as said omnipotent being

@kylergriggs6897

3 жыл бұрын

And even then when he didn’t know the universe was bring destroyed he simply recreated it without any trouble. Didn’t even tax him physically, that feat alone would be high universe level or even low multiverse level. Alien X clones are just as real as the “Original” they wouldn’t dissappear because there was no reason too. Jetray is fast enough to cross the universe in seconds which is much faster than Hal Jordan’s universe in an hour feat. The omnitrix failsafe has protected Ben from hard-light constructs before with sunders axe. The omnitrix has a nigh instantaneous reaction time with it transforming him after the modified annihilarggg detonated giving instant transformation speed. While diamondhead can’t survive a planet exploading(debatable) there are plenty of aliens who can especially Alien X. The omnitrix can rebuild a new body for ben if he dies as that was what happened in the big bang episode. The omnitrix doesn’t have a time-limit when master control is active which it clearly was in this episode. (Hal’s ring does have a energy limit and even showed it) Omnitix is fused to the wrist of ben while Hal’s ring can slide right off. And those are just a few of the feats and facts that prove ben is superior to the green lantern and why he should have won.

@filipvadas7602

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickadetola4153 except Ben couldn't do anything because he had to debate with two other personalities and by the time they came to a conclusion it was too late. NOT because he didn't have the power

@patrickadetola4153

3 жыл бұрын

@@filipvadas7602 If a character is said to be omnipotent like Alien X couldn't bring back his original universe and had to make an old one then they don't have the power to bring it back in the first place even with the debate in their head it's still no excuse for said omnipotent being

If there's a spiderman death battle episode where he acts like doctor doom, then that's not spiderman. That's Otto Octavius aka the Surperior Spiderman

@dr.michaelpines.1803

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, Superior Spiderman is a well liked character, so he could get into Death Battle

@merchantziro4285

3 жыл бұрын

@@dr.michaelpines.1803 Who would be Superior Spider-Man's best matchup? Outside of The Batman who Laughs and the other evil Batmen. We've had enough Spider vs Bat Death Battles already with the original vs original, 2099 vs Beyond, and now Gwen vs Girl.

@Daxter-hl7dw

3 жыл бұрын

@@merchantziro4285 Communist Superman? One of the many different Deadpools? Red or Grey Hulk? Arkham Knight/Red Hood? There was also the short bit where Joker became Gothams hero.

@unchartedknight0193

3 жыл бұрын

@@merchantziro4285 Batman Who Laughs would slaughter Superior Spider Man with his numerous hax But because Death Battle Superior Spiderman's gonna have the infinity gauntlet or some shit when BWL has had in his basic utility when SS doesn't

@sussyangel7492

3 жыл бұрын

Pizza time. 🛵👲🏻 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕 ⌛⏰⏱️

To be fair, Bruce can probably speak Swahili in canon.

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

And a ton of other languages to be honest.

@merchantziro4285

2 жыл бұрын

I now want to write a battle and have him act like a bumbling idiot speaking Swahili for 95% of a battle only to reveal that he was planning 10 steps ahead and lured his opponent into a trap after giving them false confidence to win.

@alexveverka3913

2 жыл бұрын

At least it’s not Frank Miller’s Batman “Crazy Steve”

You want to know my "nit-pick" for Death Battle? It's something that I thought they fixed, but recently started doing again. The withholding of information about some feats or feats they didn't mention until the end of results.

@maxdrags3115

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, that's really annoying. It's basically a SIKE move on their part and it's stupid.

@frontful5698

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed this especially with Heihachi vs Geese. The way they presented the stats made it seem like Geese takes the win, but then they expand on the stats and feats after the fight

@lovethatdarkness

3 жыл бұрын

@@frontful5698 Yea. Like the speed feats, giving Heichi the implied 1% the Speed of Light feat vs the 2% they gave Geese, but at the end, they revealed it was 4%.

@lovethatdarkness

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxdrags3115 In a sense, you can tell who's going to win when you notice that.

@maxdrags3115

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovethatdarkness Yea, also the fact that they will hide info from us for one character, yet give a lot of info for the other one.

I totally agree with you on the nitpicking argument. People just use it to disregard any type of criticism. It just feels like people don't know the meaning of it.

@DarkSymphony777

3 жыл бұрын

People today DON'T know what criticism is anymore. They just think anything could be wrong means your trying to hurt there feelings. Personally I blame twitter

@null7198

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkSymphony777 Please stop saying that like there was some magical time when people perfectly understood, attributed and distributed criticism without fault-- People have NEVER been able to fully accept criticism, and everyone has their own definition of what's too much, too little or just right of criticism, it has always been that way lol. Don't blame Twitter, blame human nature. It happens.

@DarkSymphony777

3 жыл бұрын

@@null7198 true. There will always be people who just can't take criticism. I do apologize for not giving a clarification on the twitter point. What I mean is that while twitter didn't make people unable to take criticism. It did make it exacerbate to such a degree that people are being manhunted and doxxed for simply doing so.

@damanicampbell9567

3 жыл бұрын

@@null7198 yeah basically he is saying twitter made things like that worst , which he is not wrong , social media made A LOT of things in humans overall worse. humanity was just not meant to have such a large social platform to judge ,compare , manipulate , conditioned millions of people with. , it fucked with there heads.

@charlesstebbins7207

3 жыл бұрын

I think that there needs to be a more clear definition of nitpicking than looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, especially in order to criticize unnecessarily. Because it leaves to much open to opinion. What is "important" and what is "unnecessary?" It's all just personal opinion.

At this point the music used in the background of this video is just Nemesis’ trademark “I’m sick and tired of this shit” music lol.

@DoctorHippo

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know the actual music? I’d love to have it

@patch8079

3 жыл бұрын

nope idk what this is

@mayilanthanigai6901

3 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorHippo I believe it's from naruto, don't remember the exact name tho

@silvertotodile6958

3 жыл бұрын

@@mayilanthanigai6901 Well if ya do remember the name, please say it here, it’s really fun.

@somethingswrongicanfeelit5688

3 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorHippo Naruto's daily life.

The problem for me in the Ben 10 vs GL battle is that they literally use episodes that debunk why Ben loses by just not watching the full episodes or something. Then when people bring it up in their round table thing they try to debunk it to where it makes less sense because there’s evidence still literally in the episodes.

@hadouradiance3566

3 жыл бұрын

@@VunderGuy I agree with you, but Kuro said he wants to focus on Ben because there's millions of videos on Hal. My problem with that, though, is like his video was an essay. He's writing paragraphs without any counterclaim to debunk. He doesn't show why Ben is more impressive than Hal, and he just comes off as a fanboy. That's not to say his criticisms weren't accurate, though.

@maxdrags3115

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadouradiance3566 Doesn't matter, Alien X still wins.

@hadouradiance3566

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxdrags3115 It DOES matter. Both sides should be represented fairly to come to an accurate conclusion. I said before that Kuro's criticisms were valid so this comment really has no point.

@maxdrags3115

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadouradiance3566 Oh, yea you did lol My bad.

@donellebullock7404

3 жыл бұрын

Literally, they show the scene where he says the Omnitrix wouldn't let him dye from the Big Bang, which is the entirety of ALL timelines and potentially universes.

You explain the outcome of Ben 10 vs. Green Lantern better than Death Battle did

@camwhit8892

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but isn’t it still improbable if you have outside knowledge of what happens in the episode, and how it actually played out within the episode l ?

@chrishansen1172

3 жыл бұрын

I am a fan of ben 10 but I honestly think green lantern wins but how death battle made him win is retarded Omnitrix: *reacts to the big bang* Also omnitrix: *can't react to a a pair of scissors*

@wilfridekoue1405

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrishansen1172 thx you I'm a fan of Ben as well and I still think that way green lantern won was really bad. There was other ways for green lantern to win but DB chose the crap option

@heberthswordsman4890

3 жыл бұрын

@@VunderGuy Hal Jordan is still a human and it doesn't matter if it's willpower-based, it reacts to his thoughts, and since he's just a human powered by the ring, there's no way it'd be faster than a big bang. And of course, you'll deliberately forget ben's character development and other traits, and just call him annoying, it tells everything we need to know about you.

@meek7765

3 жыл бұрын

@@heberthswordsman4890 that's wrong on so many levels just because hal is a human doesnt mean he can't react faster than the big bang humans in dc don't have limits to them

They stated in the Dr. Strange vs. Doctor Fate fight that Fate was rendered immune to psychic attacks by his amulet, but he only beats Dr. Strange after Strange enters his mind. Strange shouldn’t be able to enter his mind in the first place.

@kiley2513

3 жыл бұрын

Oh god never noticed that!

@Violent_Wolfen

3 жыл бұрын

Also, Dr. Strange has more ways of beating Dr. Fate. Hell, the Dr. Strange that in the comics are all the same guy and I mean survived universes being rewritten.

@kiley2513

3 жыл бұрын

@@Violent_Wolfen true

@ilvanasgobero8096

3 жыл бұрын

And Shadow is immune to psychic attacks, mewtwo destroys his mind

@kiley2513

3 жыл бұрын

@@ilvanasgobero8096 yeah he is and mewtwo really only uses psychic attacks

I feel Leon VS Frank can be argued by the same logic as Megazord VS Voltron. They put Leon at 4.5 tons and Frank at 2 tons, but if you look at the feats themselves you can say Frank is stronger. Leon slowly pushed around 4.5 tons of rock by moving it across the floor, while Frank sent the 2 ton car flying with a simple smack of his hand.

@donttalenostory1905

3 жыл бұрын

True

@Leagueminer-ve6iv

3 жыл бұрын

While that is true, there's also the fact that in the death battle cast, leons weapons and reaction is just way too fast for anything to react to by Frank.

@migz7291

3 жыл бұрын

Frank is stronger but Leon is still the better fighter overall

@d4rk45t6

3 жыл бұрын

The only really bad thing about that video is that the ending is really bad, Frank could just dodge the missile and then die for another thing Leon had, idk it was kinda dissapointing

@Leagueminer-ve6iv

3 жыл бұрын

@@d4rk45t6 to be fair could Frank even take a rocket for long

I was watching Shadow VS Ryuko and I just kept thinking "Wait where was this shit with Mewtwo?"

@megamix5403

3 жыл бұрын

That was me when I was watching the other Batman episodes. DB is very inconsistent with their feats/powerscaling

@jackkemble566

3 жыл бұрын

Its possible they never brought it up because it didn't really matter how strong or fast he was because Mewtwo's win was based on their telepathic abilities.

@grey24x83

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackkemble566 It is useless to have telepathic abilities if you cannot see your opponent so they should have taken those feats into account

@TowaruTsura

3 жыл бұрын

@@grey24x83 What? No, you need to be able to attack someone's mind to use telepathic abilities, there's no line-of-sight requirement at all. Where'd you even get that idea? That's why Mewtwo is so OP, because he can just murder someone from miles away without that person ever being able to even know they're being attacked. Granted, Shadow should have put up more of a fight, especially with Chaos Control. Mewtwo has no way to deal with frozen time that I know of.

@grey24x83

3 жыл бұрын

@@TowaruTsura If you cannot concentrate when being constantly attacked then telepathy is useless since you cannot focus on a target and as soon as Super Shadow took a hit to Mewtwo he should have defeated him after a few hits due to the large difference in attack power

In the Ben 10 Vs Green Lantern, they literally give an example of how there is a failsafe that prevents Ben's wrist from being cut off, they they ignore the failsafe and do it anyway

@The_Big_Jay

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, 2 kinds of failsafe that would both save Ben's arm. One is a simple forcefield which pushes opponents away, while the later model Omnitrix will actually automatically transform to protect Ben.

@kairu_aname

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Big_Jay And better yet, even reattach his arm if need be

@glennthehelper4524

3 жыл бұрын

Green Lantern still wins

@The_Big_Jay

3 жыл бұрын

@@glennthehelper4524 You're allowed to be wrong.

@alextunneyware

3 жыл бұрын

@@glennthehelper4524 yeah, you're right, Green Lantern does win That is if you completely ignore everything that contradicts it

They seriously downplayed Alien X tbh. Not only do they ignore the fact that he was immune to the destruction of the universe happening around him they also try to make it seem like he couldn't stop the Anihilarg which just plain isn't true As they mentioned in the episode itself, the main flaw of Celestial sapiens is the fact that they spend most of their time debating with their other personalities to come to an agreement. A process Ben was able to work around temporarily by having his other personalities debate in peace while he takes over Its also weird that Hal was able to travel back in time and cut Ben's hand off when : A) Alien X is a being that exists out of the ordinary flow of time, so he should have been able to follow Hal and kill him anyway B) They ignored the fact that the Omnitrix has failsafes to protect Ben in case he is about to injured or have the Omnitrix removed without authorization, chief among those failsafes being the one that automatically cycles through all his transformations to find the one that is perfect for his survival, something they MENTION and SHOW in the episode And odd amount of info was outright ignored tbh

@wilfridekoue1405

3 жыл бұрын

@@VunderGuy tbh green lantern should have use a sword instead of scissors

@filipvadas7602

3 жыл бұрын

@@VunderGuy 1. Relax, nobody is anrgy over here 2. People bring up the failsafe because its a legitimate piece of info that was weirdly ommited along with the fact that Hal also has a history of getting his ring taken off when he isn't paying attention. 3. And even if we ignore that, It still doesn't excuse the fact that they kinda downplayed Alien X

@An_Entire_Lime

3 жыл бұрын

oh god dont start this fight again!

@An_Entire_Lime

3 жыл бұрын

@@VunderGuy A large chunk of the internet is like this tbh, they cant handle their favourite franchise not being the absolute best at something and then they start screaming and preety much never stop, its never fun, its never constructive and its aways embarassing for everyone involved

@archmagemc3561

3 жыл бұрын

@@VunderGuy The issue is that they gave a strong Ben with full control over the omnitrix, and they mentioned the failsafe stuff but ignored it. Much like they do on other controversal ones. If they hadn't ignored it and hal did some kind of other type of win, it'd be fine. Hal has ways of doing that too with a surprise attack, but they used the one they said didn't even work.

This is why you don't take every version of just one character and put it up against another it just becomes a mess, they must just take the most powerful version even with their weaknesses and let them fight.

@clayxros576

3 жыл бұрын

Which DB never does. They make an amalgamation of strengths and rather arbitrary weaknesses, then pit them against characters who have 1 version at best. While this is arguably fine for DC vs Marvel, doing that with anything else immediately gives the amalgam an unbeatable handicap.

@sayer4148

3 жыл бұрын

Death Battle said that they now use supplementary material if it's consistent with the source material. For example, if a comic book character has a weaker version in the TV show, they could use the show too. Obviously this means that a feat a character does in supplementary material can be replicated in the source canon. However, if a character doesn't have an obvious feat that surpasses or at least equals the supplementary material, it can lead to some questions. For example, MegaMan.EXE has been calculated to be 3 novemdecillion times faster than light from a manga feat; to include it in his profile would mean that the NetNavi has a similar or greater speed in the games.

This channel is so underrated

@marlinmurrell620

3 жыл бұрын

Tru tho

Pretty sure the problem with Grey vs Esdeath's calculation was measuring the potency of an attack from Esdeath they outright admitted would make Grey stronger.

@sussyangel7492

3 жыл бұрын

Distracted from her juggs.

@ohmyoof3pizzaman205

3 жыл бұрын

U guys know sonic can just phase and heal himself as he can in sonic battle so he can just phase into Mario and kill him.

@TheUncivilizedNation

2 жыл бұрын

@@ohmyoof3pizzaman205 that’s comic Sonic not video game Sonic

@AceOfPhanatic

2 жыл бұрын

That's video game sonic, not comic sonic

@jamainegardner4193

Жыл бұрын

@@TheUncivilizedNation He straight up pointed out the game it was from.

Hawkeyes's weight is measured in inches! lol. I never noticed it. Honestly, that was enough to make the whole video worth it.

Not to mention in Joker vs Sweet Tooth they literally had to make up a weakness for Sweet Tooth justify him bein tricked by Joker when based on game dialogue and general common sense there's no reason he should.

@generalkinobi6215

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet tooth should have him killed on the spot he is a remorseless killer.

@GermanKinsmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@generalkinobi6215 Yes, and Joker exploited the fact he was a remorseless killer by saying it'd be more of a rush to kill him with his own two hands as opposed to with a mech. Sweet Tooth is canonically a bloodthirsty idiot who rarely considers the consequences in his actions. The result is perfectly in-line with his character.

@Impalingthorn

3 жыл бұрын

And Joker is cannonically a manipulative psychopath that preys on the emotional and moral boundaries of those around him, something Sweet Tooth entirely lacks. In fact, do you know just HOW MANY times Joker has skated by simply because of Batman's singular "no kill" rule? Also, he's not stupid. Single minded? Yes. But not stupid. He's a calculated mass murderer and the onlt record of him being a real jackass was Calypso twisting his words when he said "take me to where she is". Joker doesn't have reality bending semi-wish granting powers. He has the ability to challenge people's principles. He's literally just a regular joe that is super unhinged. Sweet Tooth is a guy that murdered his way through an entire hospital to find a name... with his bare hands. The simplest way to put this is that they leveled the playing field by bringing in the fucking JOKER MOBILE.

@GermanKinsmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Impalingthorn You're acting like Joker has never had people actively trying to murder him before, when he's had people like fucking Deathstroke the Terminator coming for his head that he's consistently outsmarted. And no, he didn't do it by "challenging (Slade's) principles". Yes, Joker gets off the hook because Batman doesn't kill people, sure. But Sweet Tooth isn't Batman, and the chances that he'd be able to get the better of Joker in any situation through his usual methods of brute force are next to none. Joker has dealt with people just as ruthless who are stronger, faster, and smarter than this run-of-the-mill demonic serial killer is. He wouldn't need the "Joker mobile", because if he was given his standard resources he'd just gas bomb the entire neighborhood Sweety is riding around in. The Joker mobile was provided for the sake of entertainment, because watching Sweet Tooth instantly die from Joker toxin wouldn't be particularly entertaining.

@jessicabombcat2180

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll throw my two cents of things that really bugged me on that fight. 1. Sweet tooth clearly doesn’t give a fuck how he kills anyone as long as it gets the job done. The Brother Grimm fight itself has him lament seeing someone blow up wouldn’t be as fun as stabbing them to death but since it was easier and more convenient he still blew him up. 2. Sweet tooth isn’t an idiot as the episode depicted him to be and has shown many times to outsmart the smart guy. Best example being when he completely outwitted Calypso at his own game by making him switch minds with him. 3. They used a jokermobile from a nightmare sequence, which is 100% non canon. Yeah I don’t need to elaborate why that rubs me wrong.

If someone ever criticizes you for criticizing death battle by saying “you are just nitpicking” say that they are “just nitpicking your criticism”

An added note for Mario vs Sonic (2018), there were some feats they used from the cartoons both characters have been in even though they clearly stated they were only using the games as the source for the analysis.

@egesorkultay4335

3 жыл бұрын

They Said They werent Using ARCHİE AND MOVİE VERSİONS not Other Versions

@Xander0022

3 жыл бұрын

@@egesorkultay4335 They said they were using game feats only, nothing else.

@doodlehead081

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xander0022 they said that they were using the same rules as the first Sonic vs Mario (2011) so it might be the reason why the feats from cartoons were put in

@egesorkultay4335

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xander0022Wiz said any Connected Media that Has References Count but Death Battle is known to fuck up that

@DemonicAppetite1120

3 жыл бұрын

I mean all those cartoon feats pale in comparison to their game feats so that doesn’t change the fact Sonic loses.

"Since when did the term nitpick lose any meaning?!" Since the release of _The Last Jedi_ - that's when I noticed it losing meaning.

@agentchaos9332

2 жыл бұрын

💀 this hurt my soul. RIP star wars

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

The Last Jedi, the Grover House of movies, the more times you watch it the worse it gets.

@Underworlder5

2 жыл бұрын

@@forickgrimaldus8301 all style, no substance. sure, you can enjoy it if you turn your brain off, but star wars was put on the map by proving it was more than a generic sci-fi flick

The bit about Ben 10 vs Green Lantern is that the scissors would not have worked. If that was the case then Ben 10 would only have 1 season, you literally can not remove the Omnitrix like that and live

@pixelwizard9652

2 жыл бұрын

Well the Omnitrix could possibly react faster because it is only programmed to react to the threat that is trying to kill Ben with enough force to protect Ben and give him the necessary alien he needs at that time.

@esteban8471

2 жыл бұрын

It would have worked if they explained Hal was faster than the Omnitrix. But they never bring it up. God, that post analysis was so bad.

@jacquelineebanks4050

2 жыл бұрын

@@esteban8471 that whole episode is probebly the worst of all time especially for when it came out

@esteban8471

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacquelineebanks4050 I disagree. It's the end of the fight and post analysis where the episode drops the ball. The rest is pretty good. The analysis segments are fun, most of the fight was good and the track was a banger. Even now, it's a solid episode. But hey, that's my opinion.

@jacquelineebanks4050

2 жыл бұрын

not saying I think the outcome was wrong in just saying with all both characters could do they really didn't do anything

Just my two cents, for "Lucy vs. Carnage", they mentioned that Carnage can enter through very minor cuts in the human body; Lucy gets cut in the animation, yet Carnage doesn't capitalize on that.

@patrickadetola4153

3 жыл бұрын

They also mentioned in the black box that he has never done this through projectiles and Lucy was way faster than him

@mattygee6852

3 жыл бұрын

That is an issue with the black box in that I think that a very VITAL point and the info in the boxes contain either jokes or super important info which should be mentioned through commentary

@angrygarbanzo5436

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickadetola4153 Son of a gun, you're right

@KlyntarNage666

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickadetola4153 Id say that carnage is actually faster on the fact that he dodged a microwavebeam twice by firestar which travel at lightspeed. But she’s stil stronger cause her vectors were strong enough to nuke an island. Which is more impressive then overpowering both spider-man and venom at the same time. So tbh both of them can win IF she’s facing normal carnage. But against dark carnage she’s fucked

@KlyntarNage666

3 жыл бұрын

And carnage vs Alex mercer would have been a much better matchup

Every time I see footage of Ben 10 vs Green Lantern I get pissed off.

@JunkJester6131

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's just a fight or flight reaction at this point and I'm ready to start throwing haymakers.

@four-en-tee

3 жыл бұрын

@@JunkJester6131 That was me with Goku vs Superman for years, and its not even like i disagree with the verdict. Its just that the arguments and data they present in those videos are horse shit.

@vlitragaia5969

3 жыл бұрын

@@four-en-tee Facts

@kairu_aname

3 жыл бұрын

I get mad because as far as I've seen and researched, Hal didn't have that fast of reflexes. Lateral movement isn't combat potential unless you can drum that speed into something, but that's a nonfactor. In other words, hal had innate knowledge of where things are in there universe on the macro scale because the ring gives it to him automatically. He needs to travel the universe after all. Simply put, traveling through space is easy if you're in a rocket that travels as fast as you want and you know where every major obstacle is. Space is 99.8%(or higher) empty space after all. A green lantern ring can just obliterate a car to building sized amount of debris if need be during interplanetary travel. I've not seen where HAL has these feats of ultra fast reflexes. Please do correct me if I'm wrong though.

@clayxros576

3 жыл бұрын

@@kairu_aname They're 100% inflating GL's feats. DB is notorious for it in regards to characters they clearly favor in some way.

Vergil vs Sephiroth is inconsistent in them argueing Masamune can cut through dimensions and Supernova being a dimension shifting attack, meaning Vergil would hard counter Sephiroths ability AND Vergil can see through illusions as they said, but in the fight, he can't and its made an integral part of the verdict. So I'd argue it actually qualifies to be on the list. Stats aren't everything (tho important for sure).

@sevirakalau2171

3 жыл бұрын

then again they also say in the episode that he has been mind gamed before so they used that to justify the win but... like if they were gonna do that why bring up that he can see through them anyway if they were gonna be like "yea he can but like it still works on him from time to time"

@jeremyleonjonas7657

3 жыл бұрын

@@sevirakalau2171 fair point. I still feel Vergil would be able to escape Supernova by what they presented in the episode and going by DMC and FF lore there is a lot to talk about with this episode.

@sevirakalau2171

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyleonjonas7657 yea the winner is also difficult based on the rules you set in place since actually killing sephiroth forreal is practically impossible since hes within the lifestream and im not sure the life stream even needs the planet to exist, it might just go somewhere else. And if thats the case sephi can technically never lose a battle to the death unless the enemy can absorb the lifestream... but like just defeating his has been proven to be SUPER possible so even just changing the winning scenario from "killing" to "defeating" can change the possible winners

@jeremyleonjonas7657

3 жыл бұрын

@@sevirakalau2171 agreed, tho Vergil went through resurrection aswell xD and technically Seph wouldn't have access to Supernova or Illusions under neutral circumstances, s he has used those abilities only under specific circumstancial amps like e.g. Safer Sephiroth (which is not a innate ability). Though we're entering lore specific discussion, rather then episode-intern information.

@sevirakalau2171

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyleonjonas7657 yea i was just saying these battles get real wild after awhile

Once star butterfly vs steven universe happens in season 8 deathbattle. That match will be the new biggest stomp in deathbattle

@ivantsarevitch337

3 жыл бұрын

Steven will win lmao

@oleggator7898

3 жыл бұрын

It's dependant match up tbh.

@renamon5658

3 жыл бұрын

@Roman Francis most characters besides diamonds are mountain level to multi continent while star was able to fuse 2 dimensions together in the series finale and she has mftl+ speed feats while steven in his pink state is faster than sound

@renamon5658

3 жыл бұрын

@Roman Francis oh sad that ok ko let's be heros was canceled cause of trump

@oleggator7898

3 жыл бұрын

@@renamon5658 that's more like environmental destruction feat rather than pure AP and Star had to use whispering spell on the connector of those universes. It's non applicable for star in combat. The only MFTL feat Star possibly have is scaling to Skywynne and maybe omnitraxus. But Skywynne is at most can be only in attack speed high and omnitraxus we must also to assume that he actually have a galaxy inside of him, it's really hard to scale it for someone. Also Steven is way higher than faster than sonic speeds. Star have some other uni statements so that's depends on it.

The issue I have with the Ben 10 vs Green Lanturn episode is that during the explanation they mention aliens that DIDN'T EVEN APPEAR, instead of explaining how Hal is stronger than Way Big, or Four Arms they waste time mentioning how Hal is stronger than Diamondhead (didn't appear whatsoever) and how he's faster than XLR8 (who appeared in the beginning and didn't even get involved in the fight)

@thathero5953

3 жыл бұрын

1. Then all of Ben’s aliens would’ve had to appear in the fight. 2. A lot of Ben’s aliens have similar powers. 3. Alien X is the only reason the debate exist, so it makes sense to focus on X. X is stronger and faster than all of Ben’s other aliens combined and he’s still inferior to Hal. All of Ben’s other aliens would get one shot faster than they could react.

@tylerr2016

3 жыл бұрын

@@thathero5953 Not every alien needed to appear, considering what they were working with they legit just needed a reason for ben to become diamond head to try to block a hit and have it fail, change the begining to show Hal being faster than XLR8, and then atleast for me just add a bit in the explanation about how Waybig can't win. I'm less annoyed by the outcome, but more with how in the conversation they mention stuff that isn't even relevant to the fight, also the fact they didn't mention aliens outside of the og series (other than alien x) is weird since they're are undeniably more strong aliens than fourarms, more bulky aliens than Diamondhead, and more fast aliens than XLR8

@seanselig3797

3 жыл бұрын

I know right, I could get over the fact that Ben lost if they gave me good well explained valid reason as to how Hal could beat a guy who can't die and can escape being erased from existence

@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanselig3797 plus the fact that the omnitrix has defended against hard light constructs before in Ben 10 so the scissors shouldn't have worked because the omnitrix was in master mode.

@gokussjb8590

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheManBehindTheSlaughter6669 plus the fact that Ben hace cromastone to mess with hall ring

I'm a bit late on this but I just wanted to say that I've actually saw the first part of your episode earlier this morning in my recommended feed and I gotta say, you brought a lot of good points on there as well as here. On behalf of what many are probably thinking going into this video. Thank you for speaking what's on everyone's minds. That being said, I've decided to rewatch an episode I've always had a gripe with. I'm not sure if you've seen it but already it's Mega Man VS. Astro Boy. (And yes, I decided to go by your rules and use the "evidence" given in the video.) I have several arguments, or rather counter arguments, as to why Astro Boy shouldn't have won. 1. One of Mega Man's weapons is the Atomic Fire, which is a weapon from Heat Man designed to be hotter than the surface of the sun. (It's worth noting that Atomic Fire is said to reach 12,000° C as pointed out in the Mega Man Battle Royale, different episode I know, but just work with me here.) They actually show a manga panel where Astro is seen struggling against a hot gas that's around 6,000° C and even melting/sweating, so if the Atomic Fire where to reach its full potential. Astro would have been burnt to a crisp. Sure, they later stated in the ending that Astro survived a bomb capable of stopping solar flare but what they failed to mention is again, the panel they showed, where it clearly shows a melted Astro Boy floating aimlessly through space. 2. They said that despite his durability, Astro Boy has his limits. One I already mentioned above so here's another, they said that if strong enough. Astro can be broken to pieces and his joints are ripped apart. However, Mega Man's Double Mega Buster blast was shown to be powerful enough to break him apart. Yet his body somehow survives and he puts himself back? That doesn't make sense. How is the blast only powerful enough to rip apart his head yet the body still functions? Especially when Astro was charging right in front of the blast? Not only that, but based on the evidence given, while Mega Man is shown to take a serious toll when using the Double Mega Buster, the worst that has happened to him is rendering him unconscious. 3. They also said earlier that Astro Boy has an energy supply that when it runs out, he is rendered immobile. (i.e. like how a human passes out), yet the reason why Mega Man lost was because he ran out of weapon energy? Yet they never factored in the possibility of Astro Boy running out of his energy during the fight? If that ain't bullshit, I don't know what is. Still, I hope you take the time to read my comment, just as I have taken the time to watch your videos man. Keep at it with the good content! We need more stuff like this and I'd like to hear back from you!

@regrettablevillain273

3 жыл бұрын

They said astro boy flied through the sun and he tanked. NO. He did not. He only flied close to the sun's surface and started melting they had to repair him megaman atomic fire is 12000 C degrees whic is way hotter than the surface of the sun.

@regrettablevillain273

3 жыл бұрын

I researced megaman actually should have won Speed: Megaman: 250 times the speed of light Astro boy:39 times the speed of light Strenght: Megaman: 930.000 tons Astro boy:100.000 tons

@heartnet40

3 жыл бұрын

The thing that bugs me is using Megamix data to boost the stats of Megaman characters. Not so much that its wrong, mind you, but in that manga Megaman literally matches the power of a Solar God who's laser fire are basically treated as concentrated blats of a sun. Like, c'mon, Astro ain't competing with that type of firepower.

@megamix5403

3 жыл бұрын

@@regrettablevillain273 Yeah, I get you, as I said before, they said he "survived a bomb that could tank a solar flare?" A fucking bomb? What bomb? Lol, he's just literally floating in space, helpless, and regarding the Atomic Fire feat, yeah I also brought that up. In MM V. Astro, they way they said it made it seem like it was borderline hyperbole, when it can easily be backed up by Heat Man's data card. And they conveniently only mentioned it in the battle royale? I don't know if it's poor research or anything, but either way, it's still flawed by their own logic.

@megamix5403

3 жыл бұрын

@@heartnet40 Ye, I believe Cartoon Fight Club actually brought that up. At best, Astro could tank a star at 1,000,000 Horsepower, but Mega Man could not only tank Sunstar who mind you, is a star destroyer, he can also survive a black hole. However, that's straying from the topic at hand and the point is that the Death Battle got that one wrong by their own logic. Sure, its a bit nitpicky a la Cinemasins but I feel like they really did the poor Blue Bomber dirty.

"it's all just functions" when he said that I suddenly remembered that Capcom interview, I was trying to forget it but god dammit!

5:18 Power Rangers vs Voltron 8:14 Sabrewolf vs John Talbain 10:59 Ben 10 vs Green Lantern 14:14 Ryu vs Scorpion 14:57 Luigi vs Tails 15:30 Joker vs Sweethooth 15:45 Dante vs Bayonetta 16:45 Ryu vs Jin 17:28 Carnage vs Lucy 17:35 Venom vs Crona 18:02 Vergil vs Sephiroth 18:33 Zuko vs Shoto 19:17 Flash vs Sonic 19:52 Sub-Zero vs Glacius 19:57 Gray vs Esdeath 20:02 Mario vs Sonic 2018

Hey, Nemesis. I like your videos, both as a newbie power scaler and as a huge fan of Death Battle.

I love this video because it's basically 20 minutes him being like "No guys, this isn't about the outcome. I'm saying the scripting was shit. They need a new script editor."

@levievil9220

9 ай бұрын

Hell they need a entire new powerscaling team as well one without bias because frankly they need to get rid of their biases

People throw around words now a days, and due to them doing this, words start to lose there meaning, when they are constantly saying that’s a nitpick, they most likely don’t know was it truly means, same with the word problematic or ignorant, some people see that as a bad thing or an insult, it’s just how the world now a days works

@uandresbrito5685

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, you're right, but those examples...? I don't see how someone's supposed to view problematic or ignorant as non-negative, lol What about mediocre? It's a better example

@viperstriker4728

3 жыл бұрын

@@10tailedbijuu Language usually changes over several generations but now it seems to be changing to be changing within a single generation. If you don't see an issue with that then I literally have nothing else to say to you. Usually words lose one meaning when they take on another meaning that contradicts it (I can find examples if needed as this has happened more then once through history). But in the case of literally it still is widely used with both definitions and some people are unaware of the sarcastic meaning. Looking at how I used it above, since you can't hear the tone I said it in either meaning could be correct. I see that as a problem.

@gary4130

2 жыл бұрын

@@viperstriker4728 Any linguist will tell you that this has 'literally' been happening since humans started to use language. Your example isn't of a new phenomenon.

@viperstriker4728

2 жыл бұрын

@@gary4130 Read my comment again. The problem isn't that words change, it's the rate at which words change. Usually they leave behind a nice etymology that can be traced to understand a word in context for that time period. In the case of literally their was a defamation law suit in which the ironic meaning was used as the defense. The judge then had to decide which definition this person meant and ruled against the defendant. Name another point in history were something so absurd happened regarding the definition of words? (I know there are examples, but I am betting that any you find will prove my point of how this causes issues for civilization as a whole).

I love this series that you created very unique and funny compared to other death battles Channels would love to see more

Esdeath vs Gray was bad because they brought up speed feats and strength feats Erza performed that Gray scaled to but then went back on that in the same episode effectively contradicting themselves.

Actually Death Battle gave Vergil a out to the Supernova, the Yamato ability to open gates between dimensions. Granted they used Dmc Reboot as a reference, but they give it to him. The problem is that they believe Vergil should get hit by the attack, when Vergil, someone that constantly tries to dodge attacks, would more likely opena gate with his sword before getting hit. Therefore, any strenght that the Supernova has would be null in this matchup. Keep in mind that in other fights, like Ryu vs Scorpion and Esdeath vs Grey, tey consider if certain characters had some skill or stat to avoid or prevent the opponent super, powerful, one-hit kill, but telegraphed, attack. So it is in reason that Vergil should be able to according to Death Battle logic.

@Bleeperblopper497

Жыл бұрын

They still think Vergil loses since Sephiroth could use Stop magic or turn Vergil into a Frog

@juliuswatcher1157

Жыл бұрын

@@Bleeperblopper497 There is no confirmation transformation magic would work on Vergil since even in FF universe it fails or misses the target, and Stop Sephiroth would at most use to hit Vergil with his sword, not combo with Supernova, considering Sephiroth behavior and tactics. Without getting much in details, based upon the year the episode released and the information available at the time, I believe Vergil would win, but just slightly. That would come from Sephiroth hubris for not using spells combinations or earlier in the fight and understimating his opponent, giving a character like Vergil more chances to win before him deciding to use complex strategies. Sephiroth even loss an easily winnable fight versus Cloud in Advent Children. Vergil would resort to Judgement Cut End way before Sephiroth would resort to anything other than his usual sword skills damagin speels and Supernova (aka, jis bread and butter). Not that the episode even matters anymore. Due to Peak of Combat it had been retconed that Dante, between DMC3 and DMC1, is a complex multiversal level character. Meaning Vergil, who is simialr to Dante, outscales Sephiroth hard that, at best, right now, is not even above Universal. Even without Peak of Combat, Sephiroth still loses since nothing he does is any different or more powerful than what Mundus could do in DMC1, whom by now Vergil had surpassed by DMC5, heavily. EDIT: I forgot to point out: there is a argument to wonder how DMC3 Vergil would interact with Stop considering Geryon and the Quicksilver style in that game. However, in DMC5 is shown that Vergil has his own variant of time freeze (Urizen, and shown during his JC End), so even the Stop spell would not be useful against current Vergil.

Yes thank you for addressing the Ben 10 vs green lantern one, like I said in your original video I was one of those that was skeptical of the episode, so it's nice to have some light shown on the subject.

I still watch Death Battle and look forward to new episodes, but I’ve become a lot more attentive to the details and mistakes ever since Ed vs Aang, one of my least favorite episodes. Yes, I was rooting for Ed, but hearing some of the stuff they mentioned about Aang, I have no doubt that the chance Ed would win was near 0. A critically unbalanced matchup for one thing. My problem was how Ed was portrayed in the battle. Ed’s intelligence and ingenuity were COMPLETELY absent, to the point where he looked really stupid, when Ed is almost definitely smarter than Aang. Even if Ed had very little chance of winning, I believe he’d be able to come up with some ways to try to outsmart him a few times. They didn’t even try, made him just go aggro the whole time and get his butt kicked pathetically. It was a disgrace to the character. I haven’t thought about that in a while, I’ve actually watched FMAB fully since then, and I still stand by this. Ed probably shouldn’t have won, but he should have looked competent.

@sevirakalau2171

3 жыл бұрын

I have been paying hard attention since chun vs mai and cloud vs link, both of those are just... complete bs for somewhat diff reasons imo... in chun vs mai they litterally talked chun up the entire time then was like AHAHA mai wins and for cloud vs link they just outright ignore the game/lore logic for convenience because it "doesn't make sense" like cmon this is legend of zelda the world doesn't really make sense if we use our logic but by the games logic the gauntlets don't work in battle, period.

@aguyunderabridge.8794

3 жыл бұрын

@@sevirakalau2171 Scout Vs Tracer was the same. They handwave Scouts durability and boost Tracer's feats by outright lying about, or misunderstanding whats being shown on screen, then ignore Tracer's somewhat fragile and tempermental technology. On top of that, they more or less put 'Cinematic' Tracer against 'In Game' Scout so she could have near infinite blinks, yet abuse the in game recharge meter(?) on Scout despite missing the shots. Ontop of nerfing Scouts loadout and claiming Tracers two weapons (three if you want to count each individual pistol as a weapon) is somehow more versatile. Oh scratch that. They handwaved Scouts durability feat so Tracer could physically be able to even harm him. And fail to bring up Tracers weakness, since it would mean Scout could literally 1-shot her at any time.

I'm pretty sure Dante would beat Bayonetta anyway because of his fight with Mundus which happened in the middle of his career and before he gets sin devil trigger and DSD.

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

Also he has Quicksilver so while Beyo is faster and stronger, Dante is basically Deadpool on steroids in regen to the point you can't dismember him even if you cut.

The rant about nitpicking stops at 5:15

The problem with Ben vs Hal Is that most of the fight was just punch-out when we know both Hal and Ben did fight more creatively ,hell just being upgrade or chromastone could of mess with Hal light constructs and the ring itself , and Hal could of tried something than a pair of scissors and a boot.

@venomflame2358

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree plus they really focused on aliens ben didn't use in their explanation for how he lost...80% of what they brought up he had a different alien for like diamond head not taking a planet blowing up. Well he has alien X, quick cross-space travel alien X uh jet ray and time manipulation he's got again Alien X plus Clockwork.

Side note about your omnitrix calc. Yes this is still outside knowledge but: Saying that the omnitrix is ftl is accurate... But also a low-ball. If we go by the omnitrix transforms instantly, it still means the omnitrix has to calculate what to transform into. In the big bang scene, we saw it going through aliens in the omnitrix. The big bang is lightspeed, the omnitrix cycled through aliens until it got to one that could solve the problem. The omnitrix had to calculate if the alien could handle the big bang, and then if it couldn't, it switched to the next alien to see if it could, and kept repeating the process until it got to one that could handle the big bang. The omnitrix is at least 10* faster than lightspeed if we us the "he only has 10 aliens argument but is likely way faster because the explosion barely expanded (if at all) during the process

So with vergil vs sephiroth the biggest issue I have which was stated in the episode was that supernova was a dimensional attack and vergils sword can let him travel through dimensions

@TheBenchLord

2 жыл бұрын

I think the dimensional travel thing was introduced in DMC5, which came after the death battle

@johnloganbatac603

Жыл бұрын

The in game lore is that the Yamato can cut through dimensions as it is the sword used to seal the demon world from the human world. I'm pretty sure this was the case from DMC3 onwards. So from its conception, it was already a "portal gun but it's a sword" kinda thing.

I forgot some Death Battle ideas from your new DB ideas for every franchise in DB. These are some ideas for Kirby: Dark Matter vs Dark Falz(Phantasy Star) Hyness vs Count Bleck(Super Paper Mario) Wham Bam Jewel vs Knucklotec(Super Mario Odyssey).

@alexbaribeault

3 жыл бұрын

Hyness vs Count Bleck really makes sense

@patrickbrady3808

3 жыл бұрын

I think Knuckle Joe vs Hitmonchan (Pokemon) would be good

I think one of the episodes that isn't wrong but is explained poorly is Batman Vs. Black Panther. In the analysis, they said that while Wayne could theoretically develop an anti-vibranium weapon, he wouldn't use it because he doesn't wield guns which makes zero sense. What they should have said is that if they gave Batman prior knowledge and prep-time, they would have to do the same for Black Panther and Wakanda's resources outweigh Wayne's. Again, an episode I don't think is wrong, just explained very poorly.

@Idazmi7

3 жыл бұрын

Good catch.

@Paul-wq5ij

6 ай бұрын

Batman has better capability to use prep time than black panther. BP isn’t even top 5 most intelligent in his universe (see world war hulks) and Batman is either #1 or #2 depending on continuity

Y'know, I think an interesting video would be a list of the episodes that were ACTUALLY the closest, by their measurements.

They should hire MatPat or Austin for calculating the numbers

@JoshtheOverlander

2 жыл бұрын

*SPECIFICALLY* for calculations, because much as I love MatPat (His show taught me a number of things in regards to science and the like), unless he's played a game himself, he is just as likely to overlook important things during research as whoever does the research for Death Battle. He's done it plenty of times in the past when he tries to do theories relying on video game lore: Hollow Knight and Persona being key examples.

i understand that Death battle can be inaccurate with their info. To me I just enjoy the fight scenes. and I like how they are now including a bit of dialogue in the scenes like How Jonathan Joestar promised Tanjirou to take care of Nezuko and probably quest to turn her human. and How Magneto put Tetsuo from Akira out of his misery and Tetsuo thanking him. It gives more meaning to the fights now.

I still think you should do a list of what episodes are wrong results wise.

@fodv93

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Luigi vs Tails is definitely making a top 5 or 10 for sure.

@Capsirus

3 жыл бұрын

@@fodv93 I can see a lot of death battles going on that list. The big one for me being yang vs Tifa

@dhantefranklin336

3 жыл бұрын

naruto vs. ichigo. Watched and read the entire series and still can't see how naruto could win at all unless you're willfully ignorant.

@Capsirus

3 жыл бұрын

@@dhantefranklin336 it was still a badass fight tho

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

@@Capsirus I'd say it was decent, but I would like it better if Ichigo did any actual damage.

How does All Might even blitz Base Guy? Doesn't he have MHS+ scaling even in base?

@Elnewperuguy23

3 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine All Might is much faster or even just faster than even that, let alone how fast you could argue Base Guy to be based on Haku shenanigans

I'd say Shovel Knight vs. Scrooge was wrong because they ignored Shovel Knight's ability to phase, reflect energy and his intelligence overall

@deciduous_reaper

3 жыл бұрын

yeah but the main reason Scrooge won was because hes a Cartoon Character and their weapons are really wacky but op like the Neutral Friction gun it makes people slipery which was the reason Shovel Knight fell and the reason Scrooge won

@deciduous_reaper

3 жыл бұрын

I get it I was abit bummed that Shovel Knight lost since I loved the game so much but just saying that if your facing against a cartoon Character or a character that has Toon Force its already game over look what happened to Deadpool vs The Mask

@anonymousapproximation8549

3 жыл бұрын

@@deciduous_reaper If the fighters aren't fighting using the same physical rules, it is no longer a fair fight.

@CatholicPiccolo

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonymousapproximation8549 Yeah and?

@anonymousapproximation8549

3 жыл бұрын

@@CatholicPiccolo Then the outcome is skewed and there isn't any point asking who would win in the first place.

most people that overuse the term "nitpick" are just people who can't be bothered to bring valid arguments and basically use the term as an ad hominem. As in they can only say, "you bring up details and are lame because of that." If they can bring up counterpoints, good for them. But usually, they don't. It annoys me as well.

Yo, thank you for clearing this up

I totally agree on what you said about nitpicking and internal consistency. However, I think it is understandable that people bring up problems based on external knowledge, because characters being accurate not only to death battle but to their source material is a main part of the show as well, as you said in the first part, what people want is to see the characters on death battle, not some look alike that have similar power sets. Another blatant problem I would like to bring up is the world's consistency conflicts between shows , some shows that have limits based on world building can break everything, for example, magic system, timetravel, death, reality warping etc. Characters from conflicting worlds can do things outside of their own world, for example, some characters that can time travel can do whatever they want while others have to obey strict rules, so if those characters travel into another world, perhaps they could use powers that are restrict by their own world. Also, how do you quantify a win their argument should based on world building stuff which you need a lot of references, which death battle skips out on it a lot.

Also in the commentary video for ben 10 vs green lantern they basically said they used every version of Hal instead of one version, and they thought alien X’s erasing ability is as fast as a thanos snap when in reality it’s instantaneous.

@jamessantos1171

3 жыл бұрын

Yea also if their gonna use every feat of every single Hal Jordan then they should do the same with Ben, like give him the sword of ascolon, the biomintrix, potis altiares, and scurd

@supremevidspro5427

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamessantos1171 and have all of that on Ben 10000 from the ultimate timeline for maximum hax.

@supremevidspro5427

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamessantos1171 and ultra Ben visor.

@jamessantos1171

3 жыл бұрын

@@supremevidspro5427 what’s that?

@Bleeperblopper497

2 жыл бұрын

@@supremevidspro5427 Still loses to composited Hal with Parallax, Spectre and White Lantern powers

Was a little disappointed you didn't look into that Carnage one I suggested. Also I like how you showed a tiny clip of MegaMan Battle Network :)

@mattygee6852

3 жыл бұрын

Is it about the cuts Lucy got?

@mrreyes5004

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattygee6852 Can't be it, because once again, the fight animation has _NOTHING_ to do with the research or verdict. I do agree that Death Battle got Carnage VS Lucy wrong, but only because they omitted plenty of feats and scalings that give Carnage the win rather than internal inconsistencies within the episode itself; you can watch ReadyComicsRoll's video debunking Carnage VS Lucy for more on that.

@mattygee6852

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrreyes5004 the animation is COMPLETELY to do with he fight and verdict because it's the fucking example of HOW IT WOULD PLAY OUT

@mrreyes5004

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattygee6852 Uh... *_no._* It's not, and never has been, literally where on the planet did you get that idea? It's been made clear a metric boatload of times that the animation is just eye candy and only one of a multitude of ways a fight could go (like Wiz and Boomstick _themselves_ have said, each fight animation is just one out of a hundred or so different possibilities Deadliest-Warrior-style). So, yeah, no, it COMPLETELY has *_NOTHING_* to do with the verdict or research (if it did, Flash would've blitzed Quicksilver in an attosecond the instant the fight started, Machamp would've one-hit KO'd Goro with a single hit, the Gundam wouldn't have been able to ever _scratch_ Optimus Prime, etc), so the idea it's that important is just nonsense. Sorry. And no, Kuro/Ink Tank was wrong when he argued it was also important.

@mrreyes5004

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattygee6852 Even if you think it _should_ have to do with the verdict and research, the fact is that it doesn't matter; it's their show, and if they decide the fight animation is only for entertainment purposes rather than directly tied to the research (which the Death Battle cast themselves has made clear MANY TIMES in various Q&A's), then that's how it is. In the words of Torrian and Sam, if you don't like how they do things, feel free to make your own show where the fight animation _does_ matter to the research and verdict :) Because, like it or not, it does not in Death Battle.

Also thinking back they got a lot of stuff wrong on Ben side in his death battle I don’t know enough to list them all but kuro the artist has a video on that fight explaining all the things they got wrong for Ben analysis

To be honest I occasionally watch death battle for the fights but it does bother me when someone loses when they should've won

this cleared up a lot with ben 10 and green lantern, also 16:45 thank god someone said it. They didnt even bring up ryu's stronger forms because it was so much of a stomp.

What about Sasuke vs Hiei? How consistent was it because honestly all of the data hurt my head but I don't see any way that Hiei would be able to get past the Susanoo. Not asking for a part 3 since like you said you didn't even intend to make a part 2 let alone part 3, but I am curious

@michaelwhitmire9015

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too and susaoo can fool all senses not just illusions which are hearing and mostly sight.

my only thing is Ben has had his arm separated from his body before and the omnitrix still works without the rest of his body.

Vergil vs sephiroth. Vergil wasn't really fucked. Sephiroth was given every major advantage, and every downside he had was thrown away. Including his mana usage. They allowed him to have infinite mana so he could use all of his abilities in that death battle to. That whole death battle was meant to allow sephiroth to win. I saw another youtuber who spent an hour comparing the two characters on an even playing field and determined that vergil would have won the fight. It was actually a whole lot more entertaining than death battle.

@pokereggquill1266

3 жыл бұрын

Which channel

@catneedslogic9836

3 жыл бұрын

Here's the thing. That information was not given in death battle. (Specifics on mana usage.) That argument won't work here. HOWEVER they did mention that his blade could cut through dimensions. Even if it couldn't cut through the dimension that sephiroth casted his super nova, he could escape back to the same dimension the fight was taking place in. And yes it was said in the death battle, here is the quote: "his regeneration can be warn down. yeah that's how this weird jester guy beat him. but it takes a lot to pull off, and vergil can always just use yamato to hop through dimensions to get away, if he wants."

@IvanRodriguez-vu2ke

3 жыл бұрын

@@catneedslogic9836 but in order to pull off most off most of the feats that's death battle said that sephiroth could do, such as the super nova, sephiroth needed outside help in order to gain enough mana to use that ability. Though death battle allowed sephiroth to use any ability without needing the assistance of anything from the outside.

@catneedslogic9836

3 жыл бұрын

@@IvanRodriguez-vu2ke As that may be true, the point of this video is only treating the information they give you, as the only information we have. Which means I shouldn’t know about his mana. Though from what they do give me, I can say that his only real way of killing vergil is not a real way to do so.

I'm surprised Knuckles vs DK wasn't included in either of these videos. They gave Knuckles a calc in his analysis that makes him stronger than DK, and then argued that DK won because he's stronger

@segaspice4062

2 жыл бұрын

Ik

lol odd cuz i knew you were just doing this for fun and honestly you were completelt reasonable with the one in the last vid hence why i liked it

This was also interesting, I came here directly from ep 1. I didn't see Charlotte, Jonathan, and Dracula surviving a meteor.

I used to watch death battle because they didn't care about a characters popularity. But now they will fix fights because of memes. I.e kakashi vs obiwan. Since it was may the 4th obiwan had to say "so uncivilized"

@archmagemc3561

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Space Wizards are strong vs anything that isn't Farmer with Shotgun and Kakashi never got anywhere near Naruto/Saske. but it should've been more even than they showed for sure. And yes, the canoincal weakness jedi have are shotguns. They can't handle fast projectile based weapons. Funny thing though, those are ultra rare in star wars. hmmmm....

@Predator20357

3 жыл бұрын

@@archmagemc3561 I believe it’s because apparently every creature in the universe just skipped the ballistic weapon. Though I heard countless nerds act like the Jedis will immediately reflect the bullets back like Jedis always knew what a 5.56 or any other modern bullet would be like.

@viperstriker4728

3 жыл бұрын

@@archmagemc3561 Jedi are described as faster then the eye can track in the novelizations, and it's how to shoot something that fast even with a shotgun. So I guess it depends on which version and which Jedi. "Funny thing though, those are ultra rare in star wars. hmmmm...." I would guess this is due to projectile weapons requiring ammo, operating differently in vacuum, not working underwater, likely being complete negated by shielding which was much more common earlier in star wars history, not killing quick enough to stop bacta from working, not having a stun setting, not having the same range that blasters should have, not being effective against droids that keep running after a few holes. Basically unless fighting a Jedi and only a Jedi, I would take a blaster. And even then with their pre-cognition I would like my odds with a shot gun. Given all that... Kakashi would wipe the floor with him. Sci-fi should not be pitted against anime since top movement speed is usually on an entirely different level.

@btyn55studios32

2 жыл бұрын

Or like how Halo was more famous when Master Cheif vs. Doomguy came out so they made him slow as fuck, then let Master Cheif THROW A FUCKING GRENADE THROUGH THE BUBBLE SHEILD WHEN THAT IS NOT HOW THAT WORKS!!!!!!!!! AND THE BUBBLE SHEILD TAKES A SECOND TO FUCKING POP UP SO HOW DID HIS BFG SHOT NOT HIT HIM!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

@JoshtheOverlander

2 жыл бұрын

I used to watch Death Battle for the same reason! But with episodes like Ragna vs. Sol, which insults Blazblue in the research segment with their dumbass "Nobody knows" shtick, it just marked the beginning of a steady journey towards a decline in professionalism. Now we have characters being misrepresented either in personality (Blake vs. Mikasa) or abilities (Ben vs. Green Lanter, more specifically Alien X), franchises being poorly researched (Ragna's research section as my favorite example, as I'm sure you've already caught onto), or just a strong implication of hard bias (Comic book heroes getting fully composited fighters, making them overpower or Yang winning against Tifa). They still have good episodes, and have a capacity to understand what they're working with with some cases, but it's really hard to bring myself to watch episodes now.

I loved the part in the Raiden vs Wolverine battle where they showed a part of a comic where Wolverine was blown up by a bomb and only his skeleton was left, then he healed his wounds and murdered the guy who bombed him and later they theorise that his healing is controlled by a part of his brain. If he was blown up and nothing except his skeleton was left, his brain is also obliterated, yet they gave Raiden the W because he is faster. Not even they do this perfectly.

@fluffyflare578

3 жыл бұрын

Tis be true, but Raiden could still slice his skeletal structure into pieces. Given hes a cyborg, as long as electrolytes are around, he could keep up for as long as needed. I hope this helps clarify.

@jamaalsmith5207

3 жыл бұрын

That was due to a deal he made with the grim reaper in that comic run I believe. Their attempt to compare Antarctic Vibranium to the HF blade was a bit of a reach though

@espurrseyes42

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamaalsmith5207 While the HF Blade's frequency property is obviously weaker than Whoever's Antarctic Vibranium arm, that arm doesn't have the backing of a Cyborg Ninja that can casually lift EXCELSUS (after which he got clapped by Armstrong before getting Murasama and then winning after a 3rd fight), 2 different enhanced states that further augment the Ninja's power and his sword's cutting ability, and also isn't a SWORD that can cut things and does so even better due to the frequency property (and Murasama is significantly stronger than his regular HF Blade or the one from MGS4 and Rising's Prologue). Not to mention that these swords have a tendency to cut through things they're literally not long enough to cut through (see the Ray fight).

@clayxros576

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamaalsmith5207 DB ignores context alot, and it gets distracting. So many feats they draw from are only possible because of direct outside help, or were temporary perks that dont factor into their "peak" in the slightest.

Hello there quick question what is a good match for death the kid in vs also what is your opinion on assassination classroom and who’s your favorite student

@An_Entire_Lime

3 жыл бұрын

oof, I dont think this one is getting answered any time soon :/

@Karma-rc8tm

3 жыл бұрын

Wow you leave a comment like that I respect that

So what do think about the season that’s happening right now?

So here's a nitpick. The Big Bang moved at the speed of light in the real world? No, that is not really true. Mostly because that implies the Big Bang is a thing that moves with speed as we understand it and that's not true. Not at all. You can't outrun the Big Bang because the BB isn't like some explosion that happened within space-time. It was (and still is) the expansion of space-time itself and the concept of speed doesn't really work with it because speed is a measurement of movement within space-time and has no concept outside of it. BUT, if you want to completely throw out relativity physics as we understand them (as comics do) and assume that the BB is essentially just the explosion of the universe within some larger macro-verse that we could observe and "outrun" from the outside, then in order for the size of the observable universe to still work, the Big Bang blast wave would have to be moving at least 3x the speed of light as an average speed since the beginning of time And since DC implies that the BB created the entire universe at once and then it was just a static size since then, we're actually talking about a scale that could theoretically go up to multiple tredecillions of times the speed of light.

@Bleeperblopper497

2 жыл бұрын

So then Hal speed blitzes the failsafe

It's kinda annoying in Ben vs Hal where they don't give Hal a universal feat. They gave him 1. A universal feat done by several Green Lanterns and Darkseid, which wouldn't be entirely universal 2. Hal stopping "All the willpower in the universe", which literally can't be used without causing the Paradox of Entailment and also isn't universal without further context. 3. Green Lanterns surviving the Crisis, which was considered a feat of Existence Erasure resistance rather than durability. They just said Hal had universal feats but didn't give us any.

@christiansantana4869

3 жыл бұрын

Fully agree

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

Well they did say that he's the strongest Green Lantern, so he should easily scale above all the others.

@thesmashor4396

3 жыл бұрын

@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 Yeah, but the universal feat was done by numerous Green Lanterns and Darkseid, meaning Hal would only scale to a fraction of it.

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

@@thesmashor4396 except Hal has beaten the embodiment of all the willpower in the DC multiverse by himself.

@thesmashor4396

3 жыл бұрын

@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 That's feat #2, and can't be counted because Hal defeating his own power source would imply logic does not exist in the DC universe in any capacity, making it impossible to use in versus debating.

The best animated episode Death Battle has ever done is Dante vs Bayonetta. I am SO glad they threw third budget out the window for that fight. That episode was not only gorgeous but it was badass. The fight choreography was top notch and the best they've ever done in my opinion.

I wonder if you gonna do a third one.

One of my biggest criticisms of DB is during the He-Man vs Lion-o fight. He-Man uppercuts battlecat into orbit. That is very out of character for He-Man. Battlecat or Kringer is his feline companion and faithful friend. If he wouldn't do that to Orko (and he wouldn't), he wouldn't do that to Battlecat.

I remember someone tried to find out what SPD means after the sonic vs mario episode. In that episode they said it meant metric meters...which is completely random and made up on there part.

@accwontletmereplyanti-mobm7104

3 жыл бұрын

If you look up what SPD means at least for nasa its recognized as meaning speed. In other places spd doesnt even have to do with speed and is about medical stuff....but if we used there "metric meters" argument, all we would get is that he moves 2.19 miles....thats it and speed is distance divided by time so all that gave us was the distance but no time...yet they used it in there DB. The sonic one stuck with me hard cause its literally them LYI NG. Not being wrong.....LYI NG to us the audience.

@mrreyes5004

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, actually :) They explain it means meters because of the game's Japanese origin which almost always uses meters rather than feet, and it makes sense as meters per second is easily the most common speed measurement there is. Deal with it.

@mrreyes5004

3 жыл бұрын

@@accwontletmereplyanti-mobm7104 Even then, pointing out the SPD thing is worthless :) The reason is because they actually _DO_ give Sonic a higher base form speed via the feet of him matching speeds with a pseudo black hole (they literally state in the episode itself that the speed they gave Sonic from the SPD isn't his highest speed in base and that his black hole feat is the higher and better speed to use, and it's the black hole speed feat they use when comparing Sonic's speed to Mario's in the post-fight rundown anyway), so whining about the SPD is worthless anyway since it's not even the speed they themselves us, what matters is the black hole feat which is correcr as there is nothing wrong with the speed they got from Sonic matching the speed of the pseudo black hole. If anything, YOU are the one making things up on your part and "LYI NG" (lol just say lying, weirdo, no need for the random space there) to the audience. Who cares about NASA? Lol literally nobody mentioned NASA or medical stuff in the episode, so that's completely out of nowhere and random, and anyone with common sense knows SPD = m/s since the game is Japanese and common sense says some random space program has nothing to do with Mario and Sonic's speeds.

@accwontletmereplyanti-mobm7104

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrreyes5004 Yeah which was also debunked by aries. Nowhere does the japanese origin say anything about "metric" lol if so display the proof or tell me where i can see it. Which is useless because its a downplay to his better speed feats so thanks. Whining about the SPD isnt worthless cause its still ly ing. They li e to there audience but of course youd be okay with that. Ly ing gets comments deleted on some stuff so im not gonna take my chances. Meanwhile i like being li ed to. Whos yhe real weirdo. Who DOESNG care about NASA? Lol any other version of spd has nothing to do with speed. I mentioned that but i guess your too slow in the head. Try harder.

@ahmadkazan217

3 жыл бұрын

Prrtty sure SPD in unleashed at least is like the points you get from reaching a certian speed,light speed dash makes out at 700-800sh while boost can reach something like 6000 or more.

space actually expands faster than the speed of light but that's very convoluted so I don't blame you for getting that wrong

Ben 10 would have beaten Green lantern without Alien x

I do agree with Your Nitpicking statement, and that most people don't understand it. However, there are times where people use nitpick correctly, and sometimes You can nitpick in some of Your reviews too. But Overall, I agree with Your Statemant, and I still love your channel.

List starts 5:17 to skip argue

"How would you feel if you got a second Spider-Man episode where he just acts like Dr. Doom?" Me: *laughs in Supirior Spider-Man vs The Batman Who Laughs*

Ok, now I regret raging about b10 vs gl Thank you for showing the evidence , which I completely missed ( also I still don’t get the ending of the fight)

This probably should have been an honorable mention if anything, but in the first Goku vs Superman they tried to calculate Goku’s speed by finding a feat and scaling that up through transformation multipliers (seems fair). But when they showed their work instead of multiplying by 50 one of the times they divided it in half, and by their own calculations Goku was faster by a decent amount.

@Violent_Wolfen

3 жыл бұрын

That and blowing the SS4 calculation (see SeththeProgrammer and Chuck), and the speed for Goku was based on when he was on Snake Way and given this was GT Goku by that point was way faster than that in base by that point. Also, they gave feats to Post Crisis Superman that were from different Supermen.

@debater452

Жыл бұрын

@@Violent_Wolfen They literally didn't give a single feat from post crisis Superman you made that up

In the Sephiroth vs Vergil fight. Sephiroth uses the Supernova, and Vergil just... got hit by it, while holding Yamato... and I mean, Yamato's WHOLE THING is that it can cut through virtually anything non magical, EVEN DIMMENSIONS. He just had to make a portal to escape, AND VERGIL IS A GENIUS 🤦‍♂️ ok I'll stop there, I'm having a headache again about that stupid fight.

@hadouradiance3566

3 жыл бұрын

Non..magical? A FINAL FANTASY character? Throwing anything non magical?

@MauZangetsu

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadouradiance3566 That's why I didn't say Vergil could just cut through Sephiroth's attacks, magic itself makes that debatable (I see that reading is a little hard, so let me elaborate a little more). I said Vergil could've CUT THROUGH THE DIMENSIONS AND OPEN A GODDAMN PORTAL TO ANYWHERE LIKE HELL FOR EXAMPLE TO ESCAPE THE ATTACK. That way he just aproaches the fight in a SMART way that's a lot more in character than staring and doing NOTHING

@hadouradiance3566

3 жыл бұрын

@@MauZangetsu Except it's explained in the DeathBattle that the entire dimension itself is magic. And to be honest he did exactly that, cutting through the Supernova and escaping. Sephiroth's magic is infinite, so what you're proposing is that Sephiroth spams Supernova repeatedly and Vergil just runs away the whole fight. I'm sure that would be very entertaining to watch.

@MauZangetsu

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadouradiance3566 That's not what I said. Like, AT ALL. Let's just leave it there, I thought I made myself clear, but whatever.

@CatholicPiccolo

3 жыл бұрын

He did though, he just took damage first

I wonder for a fight with a person( humanoid body shape) but has got in to maybe 5 fights casually has little experience to throw a punch but is put against someone with lady sheva levels of fighting experience how much strength does it take for person 1 to win at least 5-5 ( ex: would doomsdays strength or when does strength start to carry someone above skill and how much or will skill allways win)

@marmato9332

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good question. They always say they value both power and experience but I don't know how much they value both. I think it's a case to case basis, but I would like to hear what they have to say.

@theluckster6678

3 жыл бұрын

@@marmato9332 well i always have put them below speed strength can't use its power to hit speed and skill is guessing your speed but if you mess up skill could take you out while strength is definitely under skill but by how much is the interesting part

@marmato9332

3 жыл бұрын

@@theluckster6678 dude I'm gonna be real with you, I can't understand what you wrote without any punctuation. My english is bad sorry.

I think this episode does a much better job of explaining what the first episode was meant to investigate, namely cases of Death Battle episodes lacking internal consistency or adequate presentation of their stats/evaluations/rationale to justify the conclusions they've reached.

I better see Ryu and Scorpion in this video because that is one video that 100% suits the theme here. Death Battle clearly states that the Satsui no Hadou destroys souls but they manage to asspull Scorpion a victory by having him return from hell. How can he return from hell if both his body and soul were destroyed? Like, how is that even possible? There is another video that is just wrong which is Deadpool vs Deathstroke, but it doesn't fit the video's theme. That one is wrong by convenient omission of feats on Deathstroke's side, just so they could justify Deadpool catching him by surprise by reviving. Even though Deathstroke is know for having beaten super regeneration and truly immortal enemies before. WHich means that there is 0 chance for Deadpool to win, he is simply outmatched.

@deciduous_reaper

3 жыл бұрын

and also the sword that Deadpool used to kill/Decapatate Deathstroke its not canon since it was from Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe where Dreadpool kills Wolverine who also had a healing factor

The only thing I don't care on with Luigi vs Tails is the strength stats they gave Luigi; only claiming he struggles to pullout the huge turnip from the ground when EVERY character struggles to pullout the huge turnip.

@alexv3375

Жыл бұрын

Yeeeeup. That, and the fact Luigi can do Mario's exact same "Lifting up the whole of Castle #7 and drop-kicking it off the screen" feat from _Super Mario World_ just fine.

I like that he keeps expressing that it's based off of the death battle logic itself

I like this video. I hear people rant about wrong calculations and such in death battle and I just lose interest. But I do agree that if you look at death battles like a debate with arguments and counters (which by the way I consider the most fun episodes, again I don't really care for calculations even if they are needed of course) than it's only fair to critique if the logic does make sense and if it is layed down clearly for viewers to understand. I didn't even speak english before I watched death battles! And yet I watched a lot of episodes trying to get bits and pieces of information and understanding the logic, and since it is now a professionally made product, its only fair they also improve that aspect. That said I also like when they admit their fuckups. They did say in the podcast (and Deadpool vs The Mask to an extenct) that rules have changed, people have rethinked errors in logic, and calculated stuff wrong. Deciding the winner is still their job, but just like them I just kinda stopped caring, now I watch the show for... well... the show.

A small part of me does want to see a Swahili speaking Batman. It would be hilariously stupid.

Weiss vs mitsuru had some sus in it too that I think nobody's noticed but that could just be me

@blyat8832

3 жыл бұрын

Not tryna sound like a wise ass but could you try to explain what was wrong with it?

@emeraldwolf3494

3 жыл бұрын

@@blyat8832 Yeah, there may have been some issues but Mitsuru 100% beat Weiss.

@SetSeth-yl6ke

3 жыл бұрын

@@emeraldwolf3494 I'm just here waiting for a db fight against Adachi.

Ben 10 vs GL is a weird one I'm still not 100% sure if it was either vagueness of the crisis feat or just the fact that it was mutliversal erasure (which I don't blame you if you interpret it as an durability feat instead of an EE resist and vice versa) once in the analysis and then universal destruction in the results. Either way Nice video. :)

Making justice, the series

its amusing watching this, then looking back to the minute melee episode of DIO vs Sakuya. You see, the animator for that one *actually did some research* even if it wasn't in-depth, before falling back on said research to determine the animaton. Sure, some minor details are picked out and possibly incorrect (or questionable, given the weird composite time stops) but so far it's the closest we could get to an ACTUALLY CORRECT (based on CANON information) DEATH BATTLE... AND IT'S NOT EVEN AN OFFICIAL DEATH BATTLE!

The people that had a problem with the ben 10 vs GL had a problem with the fact that the omnitrix has a protocol that prevents the wearer from getting his arm removed from LITERALLY ANYTHING

@Agent-Ig

2 жыл бұрын

Should of just had their inexperienced dum Ben 10 knock himself out by being trapped inside Alien X unable to do anything.

What does attack potency means? Like, I have a vague idea just by name, but I looked it up didn't find it as a like, known usage of power measurement. (Not a hate comment or something, just confused me and curious lol.)

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

Just how much you could destroy with your attacks, namely the biggest thing you could destroy from a building, to a country, to a planet.

I honestly think the whole shift in the show for using a lot more calcs just did more harm than good. Nowadays the results are determined by who can survive the most tons of TNT or move at how much faster than light. Calcs in fiction rely a lot on assumptions and can vary a lot because of that, much like how Vs debates are inherently subjective. If a calc gets done wrong or has an uncertain assumption in time frame or whatever then one character can be said to be 100 times stronger or faster than another, and that’s a really big deal in outcomes of modern Death Battle.

Ben 10 vs green lantern was badly done but only the people who watch and know Ben 10 would know this

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

And only people who know things about Green Lantern would know that it has the correct outcome.

@lildomo2119

3 жыл бұрын

@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 I know about him and that’s not true at all

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

@@lildomo2119 but do you actually know what he's capable of?

@lildomo2119

3 жыл бұрын

@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 most definitely I didn’t know until after the death battle and I did a lot of research on him and I’m a fight green lantern could possibly win but more times than not alien x and Ben 10 himself takes that win for several reasons. I feel like death battle may have been a lil bias with green lantern but regardless this is still one of the best death battles put up

@pesciisthebestcharacter5100

3 жыл бұрын

@@lildomo2119 eh, whatever. You can believe what you want.