I don’t know why this case isn’t more well known. It’s one of those sickest I’ve ever learned about. It’s especially creepy that there’s know way of knowing how many dozens of women were harmed by this sicko.

@kiatequila424

Жыл бұрын

I think because it’s so sick, people couldn’t handle this. Everything I think of the toy box killer my skin crawls.

@blueray744

Жыл бұрын

Watch the movie daddys girl, on KZread it will give you nightmares🙊

@angelabordack

Жыл бұрын

I thought everyone knew about this case. It’s been covered a lot.

@-Datura-

Жыл бұрын

@@angelabordack It has been covered extensively. Boggles my brain every time I see a cover of it. So damn fkkd up!

@ann-mariepaliukenas19

Жыл бұрын

It is quite well known,google and KZread will show quite a lot of info in this Monster.

The fact that Cindy Hendy is running around loose is frightening. R.I.P. to all of the victims, including Patricia Rust who, of course, killed herself after having to spend 5 days in the torture chamber! 😢

@breannachaney8386

Жыл бұрын

How could they ever let her out? Infuriating

@TX_BoomSlang

Жыл бұрын

I love your KZread name 🙂

@patricianolan5053

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you justice was not served

@EYE_GOTCHA

Жыл бұрын

@@TX_BoomSlang Thanks! 😗

@DC-bp8sx

Жыл бұрын

Lol how about all his friends he used to party with and the fact that he had video cameras set up to livestream to the dark web? He’s been doing it for a long long time and the women who he ‘let loose’ were put into trafficking rings for the most part. Most people don’t bother looking that deep into this case though.

Patty Rust's suicide made this case even more insane. Even if it wasn't a direct result of what she witnessed while documenting that torture chamber, it was obviously the last straw that pushed her over the edge. For the FBI to say that what she documented had "nothing to do" with the suicide seems pretty off the mark.

@ey-te1jx

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I doubt she was completely fine before going in there, it was probably just too much

@ael6299

Жыл бұрын

I was looking through the comments to see if anyone else had said anything about that.. agreed💔💯

@7eyesopenwide168

Жыл бұрын

A lot of what the fbi has done and continues to do is off the mark.

@gordonaliasme1104

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps she regretted the career choice and endless violent scenes played on her mind, this being the one that tipped her over the edge. Tragic.

@piva1358

Жыл бұрын

It was the devil inside that place who took over! 🙏 🪦 RIP

Letting his accomplices out is absolutely disgusting. They should be in prison forever. They are likely to harm others. Monsters

@CAHSR2020

Жыл бұрын

The daughter getting 3 years before probation was absurd to me.

@rydz656

Жыл бұрын

She's still really wild in bed.

@alexandergreenfield91

Жыл бұрын

Without him or a similarly sadistic partner it's unlikely. That's not to say they won't get with one mind.....

@magnoliaarts8357

Жыл бұрын

@@CAHSR2020 she was sexually assaulted by her father as well. While I understand she should be held accountable, when you go through the trauma and witness the things she did your brain will do ANYTHING to survive. Including helping her abuser abuse others. It’s why children who are abused are more likely to abuse other children either in childhood or during their adulthood. Trauma damages the brain.

@CAHSR2020

Жыл бұрын

@@magnoliaarts8357 If the daughter is claiming abuse I support her right to present that evidence in court, but I see no reason why that should grant her a license to participate in the abuse of others. These days people are getting away with murder just because they claim to have been abused and I do not support that at all.

This case is beyond disturbing. He was a park ranger too.. Crazy how they're still looking for bodies..

@codybarry8204

Жыл бұрын

I still believe the coward took something to stop his heart. He had access!

@sg7392

Жыл бұрын

A park ranger would know plenty of good hiding places for a body.

@tyleroreilly8195

Жыл бұрын

@@codybarry8204 without a doubt. It’s mind over matter. Like making yourself sick. He did just that. His heart issues started during his trial. Not sure if he used any substances to aid in this (he absolutely had the connections and access) The other fucked up reality is that DPR had nothing else in life. Without his torture chamber and ability to kidnap women, he really had nothing else in his life. I’m sure he was more than ready to leave this planet at that point in his life

@fabiomgm1293

5 ай бұрын

​@@codybarry8204 If he didn't do it to himself, someone did. Because he had a lot of people to snitch, most likely people with a lot of money.

I cannot imagine how terrified any person would be listening to that tape. The torture and pain these women experienced is unfathomable.

@laurabustos6560

Жыл бұрын

And waking up from being drugged in the "🤢toy box🤢"? Even without the tape, waking up in that trailer would hv been pure terror!!! This case always traumatizes the listener/ reader. To imagine what the actual victims felt is unimaginable.

@Amber-gu7vt

Жыл бұрын

The full tape wasn’t played and I caution you to go look for it. It’s completely disturbing. Gave me nightmares for weeks

@33Tiffny

Жыл бұрын

Goodness so heartbreaking

@tonantzintalavera

Жыл бұрын

Ubu

@tonantzintalavera

Жыл бұрын

@@laurabustos6560 0

What's more horrifying about this case? That these tortures happened? Or, the fact that some of the jurors in this case were brain dead enough to be convinced that the sexual torture didn't happen?

@CAHSR2020

Жыл бұрын

One of the accusers said she was pretending she was into it. If a jury sees a video of someone acting like they're into it I can see how they might be hesitant to convict on that specific count. I was far more pissed at the prosecutor for giving the daughter a three year slap.

@meciamonshay7985

Жыл бұрын

@@CAHSR2020 still pretty stupid on the jurors because they didn’t take into consideration the things the victims HAD to say in order to get out of that situation… the jury was completely stupid on that regardless

When you get a discretion warning on This Is Monsters, you know you're in for a totally different animal.

@meatball1628

Жыл бұрын

Those dont pop up for me ever

@NullVoidgone

Жыл бұрын

@@meatball1628 I think he's talking about the warning This is Monsters put on it

@cesaralcaraz819

Жыл бұрын

A literal animal.

@pistoltripz

2 ай бұрын

Literally, all his videos has this warning

@jameskosidlo4050

2 ай бұрын

And what video is this not true about? ​@@pistoltripz

This is terrifying...as a woman I cannot even begin to imagine the fear these women must have gone through...& the daughter helping??? Jeez...

@kingmidas9321

Жыл бұрын

The daughter tried to tell the authorities. Nobody did anything. Soo she joined her dad whom I'm sure loved and wanted his approval

@virg0_lem0nade

Жыл бұрын

You also have to consider, the daughter was also brutally tortured and R *** ED by her own father, so seriously, i dont think she was an evil person like he was, her entire mind was just more than brainwashed, and her spirit was more than broken..... such an awful awful case in so many ways.

@--_--IMP--_--

Жыл бұрын

​@@virg0_lem0nade Blamed for what her father did to her? No, of course not. Held accountable for her *willing and active* participation in unspeakable atrocities committed upon numerous other human beings? Absolutely. There is no excusing her actions. She made a conscious choice to do every single thing she did to those girls. She could have done the right thing and run away and not have anything to do with her monster of a father or his sick and depraved ways. Instead, she chose to join him as an active participant in his heinous acts and became a monster, herself. She got off with a ridiculously light sentence, too; if it had been a son instead of a daughter actively helping commit all of those atrocities, he would've received the same much harsher punishment as DPR received. She may not be quite the vile monster her father is, but she is unquestionably a monster, too. It can fairly be argued that the apple didn't actually fall all that far from the tree, in this case.

@EYE_GOTCHA

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure that Parker messed her up very badly during her childhood. She must have gone through hell with him and was probably too afraid to not obey him.

@ceedee876

Жыл бұрын

@@virg0_lem0nade that explains why she did it, but doesn’t excuse it

This is...extremely disturbing. He and his daughter truly are monsters. It's mind bending that there are people in the world who do things like this under the radar until (or if) they are found out.

That poor cop who ended her life after coming out of the "toybox". I would like to know more about her. May she and the other victims rest in peace 🙏

@SimonRobeyns

Жыл бұрын

You can only imagine the nightmares she endured during that small period of time before she shot herself.

@bearcenteno3223

Жыл бұрын

“Poor cop”?! Smh a pig is awful at their job, kills an innocent and somehow still gets consideration as a victim themself lmfao

@fuckantifa515

Жыл бұрын

@bear centeno Brain washed much? Come on now, that’s like saying all white people are racist because some join the kkk, or all black people are gangbangers because some live that life. Absolutely ridiculous claim brother. I encourage you to educate yourself more on matters before speaking.

@imetyourmother420

Жыл бұрын

​@@bearcenteno3223 uhm what? Any proof about ur claims??? Or is ur ego so big that u feel like u can bash someone cuz its ur right??

@Oblivisci........

11 ай бұрын

​@bearcenteno3223 People like you remind me of the lack of any thought process you must have while typing a comment like that. To say "all cops are bad" is the equivalent of saying "all people of a certain skin color are inherently evil". Just pure stupidity.

This whole freaking case is disturbing and these jurors are so ridiculous. These people were so lucky. They got away with so much. So messed up

@CAHSR2020

Жыл бұрын

Other narrators do a better job of explaining why the jury believed some accusers but not others. I'm far more upset that the prosecutor only gave the daughter three years.

This was a very difficult one for me. My girlfriend, who I love dearly, was held prisoner by a man similar to this when she was in her late teens/early 20’s. She doesn’t talk much about it but she told me that she was either going to escape or off herself one day. She stole his phone and called her mom, who didn’t believe her at first, and when he found her he choked her till she passed out. Then we she woke he slammed her head against the floor a dozen or so times giving her a concussion. He likely *would* have murdered her if she hadn’t convinced her pos alcoholic mother that maybe something was wrong. I don’t know what all he did to her. It certainly wasn’t as bad as what happened to these poor women but it was obviously quite terrifying. My girlfriend is small and petite, weighing about 95 lbs soaking wet and wearing boots and she was smaller then. He kept her locked in a trailer, high on dope, and only fed her when she begged for food. It sickens me. He only went to prison for 2 years by the way. So he’s out walking the streets of Missouri somewhere. I don’t know the guy or I might literally try and seek revenge. I’m quite heated just talking about it. My lady is a cool, sweet, beautiful woman and thinking about someone hurting her in any way makes my blood boil. I don’t get it. What the fuck kind of human could do anything like this? Monsters truly do walk among us. Please be careful out there. Do what you have to do and never, ever stop fighting.

@popp5926

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry for you and your gf, your story's making me seethe with rage 💀 Obv you can't go seek revenge now that you've posted about it on the internet (cops will find it in 2 secs), but I'd doxx the sht out of him if I ever get the chance. Like I'd put up posters all around the area he lived, with his face and personal info and his crimes etc. and let others do the work. It's disgusting how these people are allowed to walk the streets.

@stella-vu8vh

Жыл бұрын

Is your girl okay with you making this post? Did u ask or discuss the ins n outs about sharing that? Hope your lady is healing well, and that you two are doing good.

@manwithnoname3024

Жыл бұрын

@@stella-vu8vh I didn’t ask. I keep myself and my family’s ID anon for a reason. I don’t think she would care. She knows I use social media to vent my frustrations. However I do understand why you may be a bit distressed over me talking about without her explicit consent and I absolutely appreciate that. Anyone who suffers something like this deserves the utmost protection from any and everyone. So, seriously, thank you for thinking it over. Honestly, I didn’t ask because I don’t like to bring it up unless she does. I think the only way I would even feel comfortable speaking about it is anonymously. I wouldn’t even talk to my therapist about this.

@DC-bp8sx

Жыл бұрын

@@manwithnoname3024it’s his shame not hers. She has nothing to be ashamed about.

@manwithnoname3024

Жыл бұрын

@@DC-bp8sx I wish she knew that, my friend.

I knew this one was coming one day. Definitely in the running for the worst monster covered

Heard this one a few times and yet you still did this story justice

@mrgyani

5 ай бұрын

Which one would you say narrates it best?

I feel so bad for these poor women.. RIP to his victim!! I feel so badly for those who were able to survive. The trauma these women have to live with for the rest of their lives is horrifying.

@cncbuss1

Жыл бұрын

I hope there’s a place in hell specifically reserved for these predators. I also hope this asshole went through the same kind of anguish that he put his victims through when he was inside.

@OsamaBinBombin

Жыл бұрын

They never found no bodies not even one I believe he torched them and then released them

Honestly, watching this, all I can think is "I would much rather just die than have to be subjected to this." People do not understand how horribly this affects people for their entire life. Any form of SA is scarring, permanently traumatic, and can easily drive a person to suicidal thoughts. This sort of sexual sadism would probably kill me, mentally or physically, at some point. Imagine surviving this? I cannot.

Ever since the first time I heard about this case in the news I have always been stunned at the level of depravity this monster possessed. And his daughter going from trying to stop him by going to the FBI to becoming an accomplice is just mind-boggling! Had they done more they could have saved so many women. It's disgusting that Cindy is free. She's obviously just as sick as he is.

This case literally gave me nightmares for weeks. I grew up going to elephant butte so this hits very uncomfortably close to home. I thought I could handle the full version of the tape he played for his victims (the full tape wasn’t played for obvious reasons) and can only imagine the fright these poor woman felt. This guy and everyone involved with him are complete psychos; straight from the depths of hell.

I can't believe the prosecution split the cases. That just gave more power to the defense. Sickening how criminals have all the rights. Thanks for bringing this sick case to the attention of your loyal subscribers. 😊

@dinabaughman8731

Жыл бұрын

The criminals have way more rights than their victims! It's sickening, they shouldn't get anything but their cell!

I could not finish this episode. It was something about the way you read the transcripts that filled me with rage thinking about what these women had to go thru. Excellent job as always, just too much for me. I'll be back for the next one.

@mrgyani

5 ай бұрын

The transcripts of the tapes are even more horrific. And they go on and on and on..

This case is absolutely terrifying, especially when you hear the original tape. You did a great job though and I’m sure it was very difficult to make.

@colindickson8034

Жыл бұрын

I also heard of references of other acts on the tapes as well

@Muhmawmehmaw

Жыл бұрын

The original tape has never been released, just transcribed.

@hanb8737

Жыл бұрын

@@Muhmawmehmaw it was. It was actually on KZread about five years ago (maybe more) but only a few people had it. It truly IS chilling

@jackg.1683

Жыл бұрын

@@hanb8737 No, that was one person reading the transcript for a youtube video that got passed around online. The actual tape made by the actual guy was never released.

@user-vp5xj5mj4x

Жыл бұрын

@@Muhmawmehmaw I just heard the real thing on tik tok brought me here so messed up

I was vaguely aware of this case but prior to your podcast I had not heard of Patty Rusts suicide. For the FBI to deny the case had anything to do with it is a disservice to her and her memory. In addition, the fact that any trial with this amount of evidence resulted in a hung jury speaks to just how marginalized women are in society. I cannot believe he was never convicted of any murders. Thank you as always for your thoughtful coverage of such disturbing cases. I appreciate your ability to relate them without sensationalizing the facts yet expressing compassion for the victims. Condolences to the victims and their families not forgetting those of Patty Rust.

@EYE_GOTCHA

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think that they could convict him because he was dead, but at least the freak was finally stopped.

@Sinsteel

Жыл бұрын

FBI covering its ass as usual. Otherwise, they'd be liable for her death in some way.

Wow Jiles you are working so hard. You are awesome giving us so much great content. I remember reading about this when I was a teenager and it terrified me. Much love from the UK xxx

Yikes! David Parker Ray 😳 Definitely a Monster in a league of his own...

@--_--IMP--_--

Жыл бұрын

He was a sick and twisted dude, without question. As for "a league of his own", DPR is realistically mid-tier on the Sick and Twisted Tier List, alongside people like Jack the Ripper, Gein, L.I.S.K., Kemper, Bundy, Ramirez, Dahmer, the Wests and the Toolbox Killers. People like Robert Pickton, Gary Ridgeway, Samuel Little, BTK and the Golden State Killer are a league or two above C-Tier monsters like DPR. And then you have the most grotesquely depraved S-Tier, with vile monsters like Albert Fish and The Monster of the Andes, Pedro Lopez, who truly are in a league of their own. Compared to those two, DPR is small potatoes.

The work done here is stunning! Thank you for making the content this well presented. Hearing about this and some details from the tapes really is unsettling, it wouldn't be a surprise if Saw was partially inspired by those tapes.

When people ask "who was the worst serial killer", while it's hard to rank obviously, but this monster is always my answer.

@lavery1965

Жыл бұрын

I always Leonard Lake & Charles Ng

@ambrr_lily

Жыл бұрын

@@lavery1965 Definite similarities with this guy.

@biguprochester

Жыл бұрын

That’s cute

@Crystal11Skulls

Жыл бұрын

Same! If I had to choose between dealing with Bundy vs Parker Ray.... I am taking Bundy. Parker Ray should be far more notorious.

@Crystal11Skulls

Жыл бұрын

@@nealkelly9757 Definitely horrendous sickos as well! Truly horrifying. Only thing that makes Parker Ray worse in my opinion is the length of time he keeps his victims, and that he would force them to watch what he did to them in the gynecological chair.

You have one of the best channels in true crime, respectful yet entertaining and informative and you fact check your stories. Thanks for keeping it real.

I have heard about this case before and it is sickening beyond belief. Even more sickening knowing he had accomplices - even his own daughter! Nasty. How the surviving victims could recover from this I'll never know. RIP to the women who lost their lives.

Heres a brief description of me. I worked 20+ years in Corrections in New Mexico. My last 5 years were with Adult Female inmates. Well I had Cindy Hendy at my prison and to be 100% honest she wasn't all there. When she would look at you she would have this weird look on her Face. She ended up getting paroled before I retired.

You never fail to bring us worthy content. You are appreciated.

This is the best most informative coverage I've ever seen on The Toybox Killer. There's been a lot of coverage but none this in-depth. Thank you this is MONSTERS. Good job.

I cannot express how deep my gratitude runs for your exclusion of the worst part of that “Welcome to hell” script, I was dreading hearing about the gang ████ parties and ensuring his dogs were included

I first heard about this case twenty years ago, still have nightmares about it. The poor lass whose husband divorced her ...

@ann-mariepaliukenas19

Жыл бұрын

Not really,if the husband was an as shole,I’m glad he went.

@queeng5925

Жыл бұрын

yeah i felt for her too but if she was in that condition and he had already filed for divorce and then went thu it then the marriage was never gonna work. he was too gutless n not willing to make a marriage work. may karma be with him

@Mikey-qv4zj

Жыл бұрын

@@justadildeau she was assaulted and abused? that’s a horrible thing to say

@Mikey-qv4zj

Жыл бұрын

@@justadildeau after seeing your profile picture your comment makes so much sense. hope to god no one close to you has to go through that and have you know about it.

@Mikey-qv4zj

Жыл бұрын

@@justadildeau you’re a piece of shit. have an awful day

I haven’t even finished the episode but this one shook me to my core. Absolutely bone chilling how evil this case is.

@henrigoethals1900

Ай бұрын

😅😅y8hcs

Okay, I appreciate the detail you go to in order to provide a comprehensive view of the cases you cover; it’s why we all watch! Your content is absolutely second to none. I say this with love … my dude, I think I speak for all of us when I say, please get someone else to read next time there’s something from a monster that needs to be re-recorded!! I don’t want to associate your absolutely reassuring and calm, measured voice with that!!

@popp5926

Жыл бұрын

This 100%. I appreciate him making the tapes more tolerable but it's too weird hearing him reenact the monster he's covering. And imagining Jiles reading it and getting into the guy's headspace... kinda gross 😦

This is well done I recommend anybody who liked hearing the story of the Toy box killer to look for the live interview from the woman who survived it. Fucking terrifying

@Meanie74

Жыл бұрын

She is such an absolute badass. How many more victims would he have if she hadn’t escaped? Same with heidnik. One of his victims made her self friendly with him to escape. Wait let me put that so you understand how badass she is. She made friends with a man who chained her in basement, did all the usual evil to her, stuck screw drivers in his victims ears to make them deaf so they couldn’t speak to each other and escape (unsuccessfully), and fed her one of the other victims… and she got that dude to trust her, escaped, and saved the remaining living victim along with herself.

@tonymichael4832

Жыл бұрын

@@Meanie74 I lived a half a mile from heidniks house, in Philly. He picked up women all around by my neighbor but I was young at the time and my dad told me about it a few years after I hit my teenage years. His house is now an empty lot that is fenced off. It's all for the better

@Meanie74

Жыл бұрын

@@tonymichael4832 yes there was also a pit in the basement he put water in and electrocuted the victims so I imagine the places wasn’t going to do well in the housing market

Thx, Jiles, for telling this story so well. I first watched a KZread documentary about David Parker Ray 4/5yrs ago and was horrified that someone could be so evil. Even worse was that his daughter was part of his crimes. His death must have been a relief to his living victims, although how these women could ever recover or live a "normal" life after everything is extremely questionable! My heart goes out to each of them ... and to those ladies who were murdered by such a sadistic psychopath!!

WOW imagine being divorced because you were in a torture chamber for days but your husband thought you were cheating the whole time

@BovineIntervention

Жыл бұрын

That husband going to hell.

I already know about this man; I shouldn’t be watching this; I already feel nauseous. I’m so sad. I hate this world. There’s so much evil. There’s so much hate. It breaks my heart.

Wow my stomach literally turned when you said the FBI agent left the trailer and shot herself and my bet is it 100% had to do with what she saw in that trailer.

@gregbors8364

4 ай бұрын

Of course it did… but if they had admitted that, they would have opened the doors for a lawsuit against the bureau

I can’t believe I had never heard of this one. They should’ve fed him to a wood chipper, feet first.

I was in prison with David Parker Ray when he died. I was in Lea County Correctional Facility in Hobbs New Mexico in 2002 (I’m a different man now, but I made poor choices when I was young). I remember the year because I was in jail when 9/11 happened in 2001, and went to prison a few months later. I recall it was around summertime, there was a big thunderstorm, and we got put in lockdown for an unexplained reason. I assumed due to the storm, power concerns or something. It really sucked because the Kings vs Lakers series was on, and it was a great one. I’m not sure which game it was but somewhere in the middle of the series. I had to watch the game from my cell which was probably 50 feet from the tv, and they were pretty small TVs. So I listened to the game on my Walkman which could pick up tv channel audio. The next day I found out the reason we were on lockdown was because David Parker Ray had arrived at the prison that day, and died from a “heart attack”. I don’t know anything for certain, but Hobbs was considered a “Gladiator School” at that time… and considering what inmates think of people like him, I always thought it was a little too coincidental that someone like him would die the day he arrived, and it would be from natural causes…. But who knows. I do know that given things I saw firsthand in there, things can definitely happen to people, and not everything is what it seems.

Ray was one of those men who couldn't function with a willing partner. Having been in the BDSM scene for almost 20 years, I can tell you that I met a lot of very nice men with sadistic streaks. But the difference is that those men only wanted willing partners. Ray might have said in his infamous tape that he wanted his slaves to be compliant, not scream or fight back, but the reality is that he was planting the seed in his captive's brain to do just that. He probably loved the terror, anguish and desperation of his victims. Most of these types do. Even more than the sexual activity, this is what gets them off. Glad Ray is dead and burning in hell where he belongs.

@xminusone1

Жыл бұрын

He only wanted the real thing. He wouldn't have any fun knowing it's only a game.

@blkfacejr.9097

Жыл бұрын

This is what a lot of these ppl in the deviant sexual groups do. Trust none

@Cheryltwin2012

Жыл бұрын

@@blkfacejr.9097 You're absolutely right. Even the organized BDSM scene---basically the party scene---did have and probably still has a lot of predators in it. Even if you're part of an organized group where there's a vetting process, sickos can and do slip through. These predators are looking for newbie subs that they can overwhelm and pull the rug out from under.

A few years ago, somehow I found my way onto one of those true crime memorabilia sites and saw the tape and tape recorder for sale for I remember something like 20,000 dollars. Insane.

@srahhh

Жыл бұрын

Those sites are so creepy. Does the money go to the criminals generally, or are they being sold by someone else? I know I've seen some with autographs etc, but I'm not sure where the evidence actually comes from.

@sandpiper5705

Жыл бұрын

Thats sick. I feel like that should be illegal

@vcall6121

Жыл бұрын

I doubt most that shit is real, that’s evidence in a extremely high profile multi-felonious case. I’m positive that is something they hang on to. And even after the case is tried I’m pretty sure it’s archived in case of new evidence or something, or at the very least it’s destroyed.

@dilkclub

Жыл бұрын

it's still for sale at 40,000 now

@stella-vu8vh

Жыл бұрын

@@dilkclublink

I live in Belen New Mexico & I think about this case a lot, wondering how many missing women he might have killed and the women's families who will never know what happened to their loved one. It is terrifying to say the least

@measl

Жыл бұрын

*I lived in Santa Fe for a few years, and it was nice, but every time you'd turn on the television, there'd be more parts of people being pulled out of the desert by ABQPD. And don't even get me started on Espanola! I left after less than two years, and I'm awfully glad I did.*

@rubydykes6959

Жыл бұрын

I live in a tiny town straight north of Santa Fe. Things have not gotten better. Murders happen wayyyy more than they should. We don't even have a police station. The whole state is absolutely insane. It's home, but even as small as it is I have security cameras. I have caught someone who I do not know trying to open my door. The reason we got cameras was because people have tried opening our doors a few times. (The doorknobs jiggled.) Even the small places aren't that safe.

@RiPDeniaL

Жыл бұрын

Yea New Mexico has really gone to sh!+ latley, in fact I just got attacked yesterday & the guy busted my mouth open & broke one of my teeth just because he wanted my car. I would have given it to him if he would have at least told me that was what he wanted but instead he ran up & hit me before even saying a word.

@katymcginn4644

11 ай бұрын

​@@RiPDeniaL💜 SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS SWEETIE😢 SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOTTEN REALLY BAD! I'VE BEEN WANTING TO MOVE TO NM. NOT SO SURE NOW, ESPECIALLY IF CRIME IS GETTING SO BAD. I PRAY THAT YOU ARE SAFE, THAT YOUR MOUTH IS HEALED, YOUR TOOTH FIXED. PLEASE STAY SAFE & STAY BLESSED 😇🙏✝️💜💜💜

@RiPDeniaL

11 ай бұрын

@@katymcginn4644 Thank you so much for your concern & prayers I am all better now & got my tooth fixed. I grew up here & I love it because of the memories, it didn't use to be so bad but if I had a choice I don't think I would ever move here from somewhere else. It actually breaks my heart to have to say that but it's just nothing like it was when I was growing up. 🥺

I know I'm commenting a day after the release of this video, but the channel Bizarre Bazaar has an interview with the victim, Cynthia Vigil, that escaped the Toybox Killer. It's well worth a watch, as her strength and fortitude is incredibly inspirational. It's a relatively small channel, but definitely a welcome change of pace from many true crime channels.

It's always amazing to me how easily these people can find others as deranged as they are.

Wow - it must have been somewhat uncomfortable to re-enact these scripts - but once again, I admire your tenacity in telling a disturbing account as accurately as possible. Stuff like this fills me with rage!! Cynthia is a HERO!!

@bigredswife4646

Жыл бұрын

The actual recording with David's voice himself is literally the stuff nightmares are made of ... Its about 20mins long and it took me over 3hrs to finally get thru it because I had to keep pausing ...I've been into true crime since I was 10yrs old I'm now 42 and this case (next to the one of my daughters murder) is one of the only ones that I have a hard time getting thru ... When I saw the notification for This is Monsters I got super hyped about it until I saw the headliner and learned it was this demon he'd be covering ... my stomach immediately sank 💔

@bigredswife4646

Жыл бұрын

@@justadildeau huh? Maybe I'm missing something but what the heck does that have to do with THIS case ...

@bigredswife4646

Жыл бұрын

@@justadildeau ur saying Giles is a biscuit lover with IBS? I still don't get it 🤷‍♀️

@bigredswife4646

Жыл бұрын

@@justadildeau no I'm not... 🤷‍♀️ Besides I honestly don't care anymore... you have urself a good night 🙂

Man, this has to be your best one yet. I loved your voice-over recording and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Great job!

I'm glad you cut out the most disturbing parts of his cassette tape. I read the whole transcript before and didn't eat for days.

i heard of this case b4 and it still surprises me that " Truth or consequences" is a REAL name of a real town...

@CAHSR2020

Жыл бұрын

Didn't they change the name to win a contest for a radio or TV show?

I am an avid consumer of true crime content. I have seen probably more deaths on film than the average person. I am highly desensitized because of that (+American culture +tv violence). Of all the true crime history across the internet, these tapes are hands down, the hardest thing for me as a woman to listen to. Off the top of my head I got through the Sarah Boone suitcase videos easier. What you are hearing is literally the worst thing that can happen to a woman, be told it’s going to happen to her, to heighten her terror, in real time as though you are her. Knowing another woman heard this before, before he goes through with what he describes on that woman. More than one… “unspeakably evil” is a common phrase, but what about “unlistenably evil”?

@kimberini6465

Жыл бұрын

Excellent description. The tapes make it so real!! I can't imagine being snatched and waking up chained to some table with torture devices and sex toys all around me while hearing this guys creepy voice telling me my worst fears are about to come true. I can only presume many women would pray for a quick death. To think that anyone could survive and heal psychologically from this amazes me. This one has stuck with me since first hearing about it as a teenager.

@Meanie74

Жыл бұрын

@@kimberini6465 you sure can get closer to imagining bc of these tapes which in itself is a horrible experience.

Thank you so much for this detailed description of this horrific incident because all I have gotten from others were bits and pieces.

A city named Truth or Consequences where Ray took most his victims couldn't be more fitting regarding his prerecorded tapes. Bone-chilling! I bet there were more gruesome details that special agent Rust discovered which compelled her to 🧠🔫out, despite most likely being exposed to serious crimes during her career 😵😱

christ-- I know the case and it's completely warranted, but being familiar with you and your channel, a full-on warning at the beginning gave me chills

This is one of the scariest I’ve ever seen. I’m sorry for all the suffering their victims endured. Heartbreaking.

I have been listening / watching your videos for a while now and this is the first time I had to stop listening before i hit the mid way point. Usually I go back and finish watching / listening after a few days but couldn't do that on this one. Something just made me physically ill when the 'diary' sections were read. Maybe some day in the near futue I'll be ableto finish this one

This is the case that broke me. I thought I had heard some crazy stories but this was beyond evil. I'm not religious by any means but I certainly hope there is a hell and this POS is there burning

@33Tiffny

Жыл бұрын

😢 exactly

I thought I was going to have a heart attack watching this.

I can't believe they let Cindy go WOW.

I thought I knew this case pretty well, but you reading the tape recording (which I had never heard of) is why I didn’t skip the video. Great job as always.

Those recordings are horrific.

Classic case, there was bunch of them that were in on this case, girlfriend, daughter, next door neighbor, they’re all at least complicit. The tape says, it’s “Like” your kidnapped, no David it “is” kidnap not “like” kidnap.

I’ve heard this case so many times but never knew about the FBI agent ending her life. How can they say it had nothing to do with it?! It was clearly the straw that broke the camels back. It adds another layer of sadness to this entire story 💔

@RocknRollAddicts

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

This is the best coverage of this story I've ever heard. Great job!!

Perfect timing I love seeing when u have uploaded honestly the talent on this platform is insane I appreciate u so much thankyou honestly u get me through some crappy days with your intellectual content I learn so so so much and I love it the psychology is above and beyond

I avoided this video for a while because I know of him and this case is sick. The reenactment of the tape sent shivers down my spine.

I’m commenting before I even listen. I remember growing up hearing about this case, and it scared me to death. I was terrified. And I apologize if you mention this in the broadcast-the FBI uses these torture tapes in their training to desensitize their agent to some of the things they may encounter. Really it’s true. I don’t know how anybody can listen to this and not feel something. Thank you very much.

@manscherhilberry1046

Жыл бұрын

I think they use the tool box killers tape, this is the toy box killer

@joannaw5913

Жыл бұрын

@@manscherhilberry1046 The two seem to be often confused.

Ray was one of the scariest looking creeps ever to disgrace this earth with his presence... and very unattractive...those poor women..the hell they went thru 😞

Been waiting for this. I can imagine it is very difficult for true crime writers to cover such a thing so thank you.

This is a case of the sickest monster's in the world. What is really sad is that his daughter was in on this and she didn't care if they were hurt. I hope all who were involved in all of these horrible crimes. Are being tortured everyday and that it's 10 times worse than anything they ever did to their poor victims

I’ve heard the original. His raspy heavy smoker voice makes it sound more scary. I couldn’t imagine how terrifying it would be as a woman to be hearing this and knowing this was what was going to happen to you before you likely died.

Wow Jules.... you sure find some horrific cases. That is one of your many qualities. Thank you ❤️

What’s really crazy and unbelievable to me is how he concocted or used those drugs to erase his victims’ memories. That’s an incredible risk to do all of that to a victim, drug her, and then be driving her around to people saying you found her on a beach. He must have been so confident about how well those drugs would erase the memory like that…just absolutely insane and evil

Crazy how society protects these things

If I never saw this video I honestly wouldve thought this story was a movie. RIP to the victims.

@meatball1628

Жыл бұрын

Im shocked there hasent been a movie yet.

@segundovargas

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I kept expecting Jigsaw to pop up whenever I heard the tapes.

He ain't joking. This is an Advanced episode. These are one of the very few cases that I have heard that have stuck with me. Like I'll die and I'll still be thinking about this. This episode is playing this Podcast on Max Difficulty.

FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for you to do this absolute MONSTER!

I'm somewhat desensitized to how disturbing these cases can be but this one right here ...I can't imagine the horror.

Absolutely revolting to think you would team up with your father to commit such acts. I have heard of this many times but you are detailed with the information. Thank you.

I have watched like 3 videos on him and yet you still present new information that I never heard! So impressive Jiles!!

I've heard the original of the recording on an audio book. This is a very creepy and well performed narration of it

@thisisMONSTERS

Жыл бұрын

As far as I could find, the entire original tape was not released. There are many recording that claim to be real, but none of them match the small clip of the original that was released.

@itsruckaswife7036

Жыл бұрын

@@thisisMONSTERS I wrote that comment after you had just read the first part. That's as much as I heard on the audiobook. I will look at my audible account to see which book it was. It was one by John E Douglas I think. I'm sure he said it was the original recording. I can't believe the official statement about the FBI agent who killed herself directly outside the trailer... She was obviously traumatised by the 5 days inside. I know it sounds sexist but I really don't think it should have been done by a female. especially alone. No amount of training could prepare anyone for that. It makes me shiver just to think about it. Thanks so much for covering it. I've never seen it on KZread before.

This gives me goosebumps........imagine being his victim, horrendous

Deeply depraved and disturbing. Very well told. Horribly, I'm going to remember this for a long time. *Shudder* I'm never watching anything about this MoFo again so thanks for the heads up.

Why do people say that? Like it's ok to treat animals like that too or something...smh

I was confused for a moment and initially thought the title said "Tool Box killers". The audio tape that was barely heard outside the courtroom from the Tool Box killers is harrowing. However, it seems that the two aren't just similar by name.

The fact that some of the jurors didn’t believe her story…. Seriously, wtf. The legal system is corrupt.

It's one thing to hear a forensic profiler say that sexual sadists don't care about the thoughts and feelings of their victims, but to hear it said by an _actual perpetrator_ is chilling.

It is disgusting how people can be imprisoned longer for selling voluntary substances than accomplices for torture, imprisonment, and murder...

This case was just about as horrific as it could get, and the FBI agents suicide was just horrible to hear...The things these agents see i have no doubt that it played a huge part in her suicide. Even worse her comrades did not seem to respect her death.

@NaneelQueenOfDarknes

Жыл бұрын

@@ala-freaking-bama1750 Thank you so much for all you have done for people over the years. I have no doubt your field of work was just as mentally exhausting. My grandma had lupus also, so i kinda know how bad it can be. I hope you find a good way to manage it. I wish more people could find an outlet to talk about these things. I will always be a ear to lend for anyone.

There are drawbacks to having a modern legal system. When sentencing becomes standardized, it makes it impossible to properly address what you might call a special case. If you brought something like this to something like a king or emperor or something, they would have the ability to take more appropriate measures. Not like it should be common, but available. Because the way it is right now, this person should never be arrested. You go and get him, everyone understanding that under no circumstances is this man to be taken into custody.

Your channel has always been great, but it gets better all of the time. I’m a long time fan, hope you continue to do well buddy!

Oh I’m first cool, this is what I get for checking my subscription tab

What an absolute gem of an episode. You did such an excellent job of presenting the content and sharing the information. I can't begin to imagine the horror. I hope the survivors can find strength to continue on. Thank you, Jiles!!!

I've known about this piece of sh*t for years, but I couldn't resist watching your version of it just knowing you'll have more details I didn't know about. As usual, you didn't disappoint. I didn't know about that poor FBI agent... bold of them to say it had nothing to do with what she saw. There's so much brutality one can comprehend, and this depraved individual obviously went off the charts. I'm sure she just couldn't live with those images in her head. RIP... He's always gonna be one of the sickest men that ever walked the earth. Thank you for the great footage and narration!

@BovineIntervention

Жыл бұрын

I doubt she could see images in her head it's more to do with emotional overload if you're an empathetic person. Even a hardened cop or agent can break sometimes randomly sometimes it builds up. Imagine her taking pictures of a crime and its nothing just another job then suddenly it hits her... maybe tens or hundreds of people felt unfathomable despair in the area she was standing and they were just normal people. Emotionally the absolute dread and terror hits you as if you were a victim and it's soul shattering. If you've seen the Hannibal show you know how crime scenes affect empathetic individuals

Cases like this make me wish hell is real and David is suffering unfathomable never-ending torture right now. He's the definition of wasted air since the day he was born until he's capture ans death. Truly a monster, so much so that it's shameful to even think of him as a human.

Patty Rust's suicide is so terribly sad. If being in there for 5 days just documenting it can do that to a person, imagine what the victims feel. The audacity of the FBI to say twas unrelated is staggering

imagine being one of this dude's kids. like even if you werent raised by him itd be absolutely bonechilling for you

Fantastic job on this!