"But... I thought you were a furry??" Because being a furry... somehow... excuses... sexual assault??!!??

@Lopitra

17 күн бұрын

It's probably something to do with how prevalent kinky roleplay is in the furry fandom(Note; I'm a furry) and he just assumed that meant she was into that kind of stuff because 'everyone' is. Yeah, maybe every furry on the websites he frequents are into it(there are sites specifically for furry ERP) but under no circumstances does that EVER give a green light to roleplay sexual assault on anyone without their express consent.

“Nick thought you were a furry.” AND? Even if OP actually was a furry, that makes absolutely no difference. There’s NEVER an excuse for that kind of creepy behavior.

@PancakemonsterFO4

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly enough Furries will always go creep mode if you mess it up and give off mixed messages

@hikaru9624

2 жыл бұрын

Took the words outta my mouth.

@honeyfairyweasel

2 жыл бұрын

@@PancakemonsterFO4 Yeah I didn’t hear any “mixed messages” described on OP’s part. She was very clearly not into it at literally every step of the way

@xRosaliax

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I said when I heard it... well not exactly. I think my wording was "So f'ing what?!" There is no kink, preference, orientation or fantasy that is an implicit invitation for sexual assault or nonconsensual advances. Disappointed in the DM for acting like this was in any way an excuse.

@PancakemonsterFO4

2 жыл бұрын

@@honeyfairyweasel yeah, after watching the entire video, not just the clingyness part i agree, this guy was a straight up predator with a anthro animal fetish

Caoimhe is an Irish name. When you see mh, it's a "v" sound. We have no letter "v" in Irish. "Aoi" is always a long e sound. Celtic languages are fun!

@spiffiermage0040

2 жыл бұрын

Same with "bh" becoming a "v", fun times.

@realrealwarpet

2 жыл бұрын

Man, i feel like that guy in Multiverse of madness. Cause my mind is blown

@aquicandaquak822

2 жыл бұрын

I heard about something like that happening in Spanish as they have no letter j so Jesus would be pronounced hehsus, weird!

@realrealwarpet

2 жыл бұрын

@@aquicandaquak822 it would’ve been pronounced yeshua. Still, definitely not jesus XD

@aquicandaquak822

2 жыл бұрын

@@realrealwarpet alright now I have more questions lol

Even if the OP in the first story WAS a furry, what that guy did was NOT cool. Consent is important, no matter what your kink or lifestyle is. The OP did NOT consent at any point in time to his character's advances. I know a lot of people will go "What do you expect from a Furry?" when the issue wasn't that he was a furry. The root of the issue was that he was a man who felt he was entitled to a woman's body and used the idea that she might be a furry to justify his actions in game.

@Damalon01

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree with you on one point. That he was a man and that she was a woman is irrelevant. The only things that matter is the sense of entitlement and the lack of consent. The way you put this made it sound, at least to me, that it would have been OK if it was a woman harassing a man while feeling entitled to his body. Which is just as abominable in my book.

@Ashtari

2 жыл бұрын

@@Damalon01 That certainly was not my intention. I’m not saying that it would be okay if the genders were reversed. I was making a comment on this particular situation. I’m not denying that the reverse happens and it is just as horrible and damaging. I am also aware that according to the numbers entitlement seems to be a larger issue with men. Gender aside, “No” is a complete sentence and must be respected.

@PaladinGear15

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@JacobL228

8 ай бұрын

Also, non-furries don't want to fuck every other human of the opposite gender they see, so why would furries be any different?

Oh, Lucky speaks in this one. Cute. Caoimhe is Irish. A lot of letters in Irish are silent but control how other letters are pronounced, e.g., m is m but mh is v with an i or e next to it. (It's w with another vowel)

@jacksparrowismydaddy

2 жыл бұрын

ooooh so that's why its like that. its never been explained before. thank you. is there something like a web series that explains it further?

@vodostar9134

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacksparrowismydaddy duolingo has courses on both Irish and Scots Gaelic (which has roughly the same spelling rules). There are definitely some youtube videos that explain it without needing to learn the whole language. I don't have a list of them, but shouldn't be too hard to find in a search.

@jacksparrowismydaddy

2 жыл бұрын

@@vodostar9134 okay sound worth it to try that. thanks.

Hey! Your presentation and narration skills have come super far since the last time I've seen your channel pop up in my feed. Keep up the good work, brother!

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks man! Would love to collaborate sometime if you are ever interested!

@insertreferencehere.8066

2 жыл бұрын

The meeting of two gods among men and the best collab to exist if it does happen.

@Gaminboi2864

Жыл бұрын

The Dragon and the Dog. And yet many people call them furries when they clearly aren't...

First story: Even if OP was a furry that still doesn't excuse Nick's behaviour. She didn't want to RP sexual assault and no one else wanted to bare witness to his weird gross assault fantasy.

I don’t know what OP of the first story feels guilty about. Their friend is absolutely right. If someone like Nick tried to pull anything like that on one of my characters, they’d lose a lot more than just a finger.

@pugking4518

2 жыл бұрын

He would have gotten a black eye if he tried that on me

@SudrianTales

Жыл бұрын

That DM was a p*ick, he tried to guilt OP for defending his PC from Nick, he's at best a enabler, at worst participating somehow in other events.

@Cailan_Mors

Жыл бұрын

@@SudrianTales It said the DM was a girl numerous times in the story mate.

@sandpiperr

7 күн бұрын

I was really mad at the DM in that story for not speaking up! That's not something that should be handled in game with PvP. I mean, what if she'd rolled a Nat 1 to get herself free? Would she (the DM) have just let Nick overpower and force her? She (the DM) needed to immediately say "no, you will not roleplay SA in my game!"

Even if OP WAS a furry this would not be okay. I'm a furry and I would freaking punch the guy if he tried to pull something like this.

@raeishimura

2 жыл бұрын

Right? We have literally half of our party as furries and never have these sort of issues. That guy would have gotten decked

@unluckyone1655

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously even if OP was a furry, being a furry doesn't not equal automatic consent. Same rule applies to all niche communities

@PaladinGear15

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Why is it that when we have a furry horror story, 9/10 times it's an effing fox! Ok, 7/10 as 3/10 times, it's a "cat-girl".

@yarraidalg

2 жыл бұрын

or it might be a fox-cat mix like the "you want the t-shirt, you take it off me" story

@AdmiralBlackstar

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because they're the most common fursonas, particularly among uh..."beginner furries".

Nick sounds like the kind of guy who goes on furry RP sites, then whines and moans in room about why no one wants to be his friend and acts surprised that no one wants to be his friend after hearing him whine and cry.

@sauvagess

Жыл бұрын

I've witnessed a number of those people, seems about par for the course.

First Story: Nick had no sense of boundaries, regardless of what OP did. The DM was most likely just caught in shock that he acted so brazenly and took OP's reaction as a chance to stop it. Inviting OP back, however, is less understandable since it's clear they had no more trust in Nick. Second Story: While it's creepy as hell, you have to admire the man's persistence, though perhaps a restraining order would have been handy.

I am a furry and that doesn't mean that I just consent to any sexual act. He's lucky his character only lost a finger and the dm backing their friend a bit is not okay.

It's looking like "Tabaxi re-skinned as fox-person" is becoming a red-flag. They seem to crop up a lot in horror stories.

Alright, that does it - I'm subbing. Aside from liking your content, that little fuzzball of yours made a pretty convincing argument.

Lucky just made my morning. I hope we get some wholesome stories.

Dude literally when "I know I tried to AS her, but I thought she was a furry so that makes it okay".

Love in real life never blossoms from high-tension, dramatic moments where people just know they want each other like it does in fiction. Talk about your feelings and figure out what you both want. And if you want to play out one of those moments with your characters, discuss it out-of-character and make sure everyone is cool.

Even if OP was furry it wouldn't be ok. And what's with people assuming you're furry based on 1 thing, you play tabaxi? You must be furry. You like zootopia? You must be furry. Just because I like things it doesn't make me furry. By that logic 90% of population would be furries because people like cats and dogs

I thought you were a furry - and yes, we can have some ER play at the table tonight if you want. Are a few star systems in distance away from each other. OPs friend was not overreacting. Also shame on that DM, not stepping in when your friends cross lines is enabling them. I hope they raked him across the grills so he got the message after OP left.

If I ever were to be a DM (highly unlikely as I know nothing) and any of the players were to "try their luck" like that. I'd ban them on the spot (not a permaban unless needed). Personally I have very little to no tolerance for that kind of behaviour.

@pLanetstarBerry

2 жыл бұрын

You DM long enough, sooner or later it happens. I'm still flabbergasted over the first time I had to tell a player "No, you can't find an NPC to r*pe in your downtime." And then I actually had to argue with the guy over why he couldn't do that. I had to threaten to boot him to get him to stop, and thankfully he never pulled that again. But still. Given how much of a nuisance in other ways he made himself to me I should've just booted him then and there. But that's a long story.

@hikaru9624

2 жыл бұрын

@@pLanetstarBerry I can see myself putting my foot down with such a player (tbf id give a warning first then the boot after that) but I’m not a DM. But I do rent a server for a game though so the possibility of such players isn’t off the table. And yeah I’d imagine it’s something that a lot of DMs and the like never get used to or look forward to dealing with.

It always cracks me up when DMs threaten "the safety of your character." Like oh nooooo, not the safety of my imaginary character in an imaginary game that I can totally leave at any time and just use said character at someone else's table. Oh noooooooo.

Lucky's battle effect is to bring calm and boost moral. You have a good familiar Doge.

The assumptions that next made about Opie solely because she made an anthropomorphic character are astounding. Not only didn't he assume that that meant she was a furry but he also assumed that her being a furry Matt should automatically be interested in him just cuz he was also a furry. Further he assumed that if you were interested in him I would automatically mean she was interested in Erp and that if she was interested in Erp it would mean that she was automatically okay with it being in front of a party and out of nowhere. Yes the main assumption here is anthropomorphic character equals wants to play out his weird furry r*pe fantasy in public but there are so many smaller assumptions he needed to make to get to that.

@stefankroon4615

10 ай бұрын

For your information, "Opie" here is actually OP (Original Poster).

The running joke in my group is that I’m a furry because I like bears and bearfolk. Sometimes I can’t tell if they are joking or they genuinely think I am lol.

As one myself I only have to say this...DON'T DO WEIRD FURRY STUFF IN FRONT OF NON-FURRIES! Especially if they weren't asked before if its okay or are clearly uncomfortable with it.

@DoomsdayR3sistance

2 жыл бұрын

I think the second line is more key/relevant to it than anything else, consent is always required and clearly Nick had none from OP. Most groups aren't going to be comfortable with anything but fade to black and even more aren't going to be comfortable with what is obviously an attempted SA, I'd never play with a player who thinks that is okay. I'd happily play next to Furry player since the aforementioned standards are for everybody, not just furries. Everything has consent and fade to black, and I'm good.

@kurtwagner4663

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoomsdayR3sistance this I 100% agree on. I just said furry stuff in particular because a good amount of furries(mostly younger furs or those who joined recently) don't know boundaries or gave problems to accept them. Not only in TTRPG's but also in normal conversations or cons. The amount of yiff pics I got without consent, simply because I am a woman and some in the fandom are so thirsty, could plaster the walls of my living room. I got groped at cons (and my suit is very loose fit so you can hardly see my real physique underneath) and got no apologies or something after I told people off. It's bad enough that some do this inside of the fandom...but outside of it...it's not helping our reputation, thats for sure. And I am part of the fandom for 20 years, so I have seen pretty bad/weird things 😅

@DoomsdayR3sistance

2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtwagner4663 I have to admit I have no idea what a "yiff pic" is and I get the feeling I don't want to know the answer to that either but it sounds pretty disturbing... Unfortunately people being too touchy at conventions is something I've heard about before, disgusting behaviour for somebody to do. I've heard cosplayers also get it really bad with people that have no concept of boundaries.

@kurtwagner4663

2 жыл бұрын

@@DoomsdayR3sistance well it's furry porn so yeah...not into that not only is it inappropriate to send without consent but also I am on the asexual spectrum so I don't want to see that stuff in any matter I must say hence I only cosplay as male characters I can say I was never groped in cosplay luckily but yeah touchy people are just annoying to deal with.

@captainrelyk

2 жыл бұрын

and please for the love of god don’t assume someone is a furry. I may like dragons and I may use a dragon as a digital avatar but if you start trying to do weird furry shit with me I’m reporting your ass to kingdom come and imma go ballistic

Why is it whenever this kind of assault happens no one just stops the game???? Like don’t let it play through stop and deal with it out of game

I love listening to people try to pronounce Gaelic names for the first time. XD

Caiomhe, I believe, is a Gaelic name. They have very odd spelling vs pronunciation when you don't know the language. Like Saoirse is pronounced Sir-shuh (or very close to).

Sorry but friend or no friend he should have been kicked out of the group after that stunt

@pikachu0Z

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, that attitude is only going to enable them into pulling that again. Friend or not you tell them to cut that shit out or they're out plain and simple.

@pugking4518

2 жыл бұрын

@@pikachu0Z Agreed if a friend did that in front of me their is a very high chance I would cut them from my life their is no way he did not know what he was doing he planned to do that before hand which is why he wanted it too be just him and her that would do the break in her DM is just enabling him by letting him stay in the group she made the right call by leaving that group he would have tried to do it too her again if she stayed in that group

Dave, the Barbarian? Nice reference!

"I thought she was a furry!"...If anything I feel like that makes it worst.

Great video! Doge's always got a pleasant reading voice. 🙂 And am particularly greatful for it considering sick Doge and all! Take good care of yourself doggo! 🙂

"Nick was just confused." Confused on what? That your long time nearly had his way with OP's character? We making excuses for this behavior now?

I highly enjoy playing animal-like characters simply because it's fun. I am by no means a fury. I just enjoy the flavor and find it interesting to play a non-human character. Despite this, I have been mocked for being a fury when I played a tabaxi wizard/bard in a game I joined. There were already a ton of red flags about this game and group, but being made fun of for being a "fury" and no one allowing me to be otherwise even when I spoke up really hit a sore spot for me. I know that not all furies are bad and that some are actually very sweet. Heck, I think one of my best friends from college might be a fury, and I absolutely adore her. However, given the many horror stories I heard about furries and was worried that my character I loved so much and had been dying to play would be turned into a horror story. I ended up leaving that campaign for other reasons after just one session. The furry joke was only one aspect of that horror story. I think I might actually post that horror story in the Reddit for the Doge to read one day. Not sure if he'll ever actually read it or not, but maybe he'll enjoy what an absolute disaster of a horror story it was. If he does read it, I hope others will learn some valuable lessons from it about how to treat your players and not screw them over with lies and gaslighting.

@captainrelyk

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who uses a dragon as a digital avatar, I feel your pain lol thankfully it doesn’t happen a lot, but every once in awhile I get called a furry and it pisses me off. Like, can’t I like dragons without people assuming I’m a furry?

@Midnight3Wonder

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainrelyk Exactly! For me, I LOVE cats! When I was a baby, my best friend was the family cat! She took very good care of me and was so sweet to me, even though she didn't really like anyone else. I was very special to her! Even after my family had to give her away, I still loved cats! I have a lot of anxieties and mental issues, and cats are a great source of relief for me. Their purring, warmth and soft fur always helps put me at ease whenever I get too anxious or nervous about something. I have noticed that I did pick up some cat-like traits from my many interactions with cats growing up, such as the way I stretch when I wake up or get spooked easily. Nothing weird, but defiantly more akin to cats than most people and it comes from an honestly reasonable place. Cats are practically my spirit animal! So, if I wanna express my love of cats by playing a tabaxi or something like that without being considered a fury, let me do so! I don't mock people for wanting to play elves, dwarves, or goblins!

@sauvagess

Жыл бұрын

@@captainrelyk One of the problems of the current age is how everybody and everything needs to be labeled, and the qualifiers for the multitude of labels are extremely broad and vague. This can, and does regularly bleed into political topics.

That kind of story is why I am so glad that, at my table, it's ALWAYs preferred that, if a big nono happens in game. Break character immediately and point it out. Don't try to act in character, tell us, is way more preferred than being forced into a bad uncomfortable situation.

15:55 - Yes. *I'VE* played an animal-like character before (Sylvester the Kitsune Cleric). However, I am NOT a Furry in real life. Nick made a heck of an erroneous assumption.

“There is an in game attempt at assault”… Welcome to DnD?

Hope you're feeling better Doge. :( Please don't push yourself too hard.

Lucky is really cute ❤️❤️❤️

Yes because both people being a furry is automatically consent

"Nick" behaved badly and sexual assault isn't part of the furry community. Most furries I know are VERY heavy into consent.

Take a shot every time Doge says quote

Ugh, story 1. In my experience I've dealt with a lot of weird moments in games I've played or DM'd, I respect OP's approach 100%. You may be at a new table but if you play the victim it will likely not end well. I remember one of my characters galloping down the road to confront an npc shit merchant (a term I use to describe trinket sellers, black marketeers, or other luxury sellers) with the soul purpose of bringing him to justice for the rape of another dmnpc. The DM did not attempt to stop it, and to his credit he said the npc was an old copy of his brothers character so he'd been waiting for justice for over 30 years lol. As such, I rolled up my sleeves in character after the dirtbag tried to bribe my character and put on such a fierce display that guy walked into the town jail, so badly beaten and with broken fingers, begging the guards to jail him lol. I remember asking the DM why he'd let that happen in his campaign because it was awful, but he never said why, just that justice had finally come for the worst character he'd ever known. Whatever THAT was, I hope it helped the DM get over it. Never, and I do mean never, allow yourself to be victimized in an rpg unless you consent, which honestly I hope you all are smart enough not to do.

Thanks 4 all the hard work.

Fun thing about messages is you can block them. Cool feature. Highly recommend

Didn’t think I’d see an Irish name in here. Don’t know why an Irish Tiefling didn’t come to me as an idea…

"Dave, a human barbarian" Oh, I see what they did there.

Curse you, Lucky, your powers are too strong.

Oh the Lucky meowed - what a cute little cuddle bug. Like accomplished!

Last story: please for your own savety. Dont go on friendship dates. You give false hope and some will go insane and stalk you. Be save

It's refreshing to get a story in which the player doesn't just passively put up with dumb creepy shit and actually does something to stop it from happening.

Now hol' up just a second >_> Even if OP _WAS_ a furry as well, that's STILL NO EXCUSE for trying sh#t like that 🤨 I'm with OP's friend on this one, one finger isn't enough 😤

One word: Consent. I would have punched the guy in the face. I don't even play D&D/ Pathfinder & I know that the crap Nick pulled is not OK.

By the gods, the Lucky mew is so adorable!

I remember this one, also that face rig is uncanny is hell.

2:09 ahh fun with Irish spellings XD

Wauw, two incels for the price of one. 1st, furry or not: don't just don't there is no justification. 2nd Doode... she's just not that into you. (also Lucky is one cute cat)

lucky has such a cute voice! also, celtic languages are a fucking trip

The power of a cute cat compels me to dwaaaa.

very good video! i want to headpat the doggo as reward.

I'm glad that the first story that someone convinced her that it wasn't the female character that cause it, it was a creep. You can't internalize sh*t like this it just gives them more power in the long run. If you give into your fear and just never played a certain type of character despite wanting to play it then you lost... maybe he didn't win here either because he didn't get anywhere with you but by giving into that fear you relinquish your own power and your own agency and allow guys like him to dictate your life... even if it's indirectly. I hate that kind of victim mentality in it's own way it's just as toxic as creeps like Nick. By not playing a character like that because of the incident you are ultimately proclaiming that those types of characters are the problem and that if it wasn't for the ability to play a female in game that the scene wouldn't have happened... now it might have not happened but i've played many games in different genders and races and i've had good experiences and bad ones... these experiences were formed from a collection of people not just one aspect of it. I don't blame my Firbolg for the game I joined where I was stuck with a racist old man who flamed everyone... I don't blame my Sorcerer Kobold when I got into a game where a girl assumed being nice to her meant I wanted to date her and she proceeded to sort of stalk me online, I don't blame my Gnollish warrior for the game where I was bullied for an entire session by the group for being a 'pervert' for being a furry when the session prior the bard LITERALLY tried to seduce the dragon, the Barbarian took a new whore home everynight, and the female swashbuckler distracted town guards by flashing her TRIPLE D JUGS... If I let these instances dictact me not playing this characters I never would have made Stinkun the Kobold Sorcerer who rode around on his donkey named Azz. I never would have played Ellinwey the Firbolg Druid who convinced an entire town to go vegan. I never would have played Mince the Gnollish Paladin of Selune who single handedly held off a horde of 50+ evil gnolls while the party ran down a mountain side from the portal they were spilling out of. Short version... don't become a victim... it gives up your own power especially when the cause of the problem was some dude who realistically has almost NO bearing on your life once you block and leave the group. He has no power... don't give him any.

Lucky is adorable!

"Human-bat face, but not scary, so people wouldn't get frightened." - She's a TIEFLING, not an Aasimar...

For the first story, that's not something you pull on someone out of the blue. You need to check with the other player to see if they'd be okay with that kind of development. Heck, I could see some potential for the continuation of that story. Let's say foxboy was naive enough to think she'd be down with it. That missing finger would be one heck of a wakeup call to trigger some self improvement. If he was the kind of dirt bag that didn't care if she was into it (and the player was competent) an intra party animosity dynamic could stir up some juicy drama if the table was rp heavy. The fox jealous that what he wants being just out of reach and not wanting to risk more fingers. Boiling up to either him (the character) leaving the party and becoming a personal antagonist.

I had to like at that teensy weensy meow!

I mean, on the one hand ttrpgs can be a great place to find love due to meeting new people and how close many ttrpg groups can get. It's how I met my husband and we have been married for 10 years lol. But that should not be the biggest priority when going into a game. The main focus should be playing a game and having fun. Trying to force romance will always backfire

What does the fox say. Apparently not I respect you as a person.

From the last story: The guy should have asked if they can be friends at least and stating that, thou he loves her, respect her decision (and really means it). Maybe, maaaaaaaaybe someday it would have worked out for him (chance like roll 10 nat20 in a row)

The story of Kiva made me so angry! The DM should have, above the table right in the moment, told Nick "No, you are not going to SA fellow PCs in my game. The answer is no!" For one thing, even if Kiva's player had been a furry doesn't mean she consented to him making sexual advances on her character. It makes me both sad and enraged that Kiva's player was doubting herself and saying "maybe i didn't handle it right?" when the DM failed to speak up!

First story: nice guy syndrome

HE MEOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love the cats, thank you for the content, it’s a good thing to help people recognize major and minor red flags in their games. That being said, I have to advise anyone reading to normalize stopping the game. If you are uncomfortable, or you see another player is uncomfortable, stop the game, be a complete ass about it if necessary. Your time is valuable, don’t burn it playing with bad groups, don’t just accept things happening to your character if you didn’t consent to it before hand. Take care of yourselves.

Frankly, even if you were old friends the only correct response from the DM is "Nick's behavior was unacceptable, he's out of the game permanently and you're welcome to stay if you'd like."

Irish people be like, "My name is Yiohimeiciaonime, pronouced pickle."

OP was defiantly not overreacting ,my tiefling would have immediately raged and turned him into mush

The person in the first story was totally in the right to cut off the guy's finger. Totally shocked by the DM's reaction. If I was DMming and one of my players did that I would be so, so mean to them. I would 100% end a friendship over that. It's disgusting.

To Nick, just in case he reads this... Just because you're a furry and you meet someone else who is a furry, doesn't mean they want to hook up with you -- in game or out.

Dude, what a pack of creeps in that first group. Furry or not, how is that whole group just fine with someone trying to commit assault against someone? Not only would I never want to play with someone like that, I'd never want to speak to them again. Dude is a legit psycho.

Played in a campaign similar, but two out of three furries removed the third furry.

What sucks about a lot of these stories (other than the obvious assault and that guys which are horrible ) is that a lot of these campaigns sound like they could be amazing!! (Edit:spelling)

Having been a furry for 10 years, I’ve observed that there are two types of furries: Those who simply appreciate anthropomorphic animals in literature and media (they may just enjoy talking animals or animals that walk on two legs and wear clothes), and those who are in the fandom. Of the latter type, there are three more subdivisions - those who simply use furry lingo and enjoy the company of other furries; those who are self-conscious or who have been through traumatic experiences and are VERY sensitive about consent (I’ve seen many buttons for fursuiters that say “Do not hug” or “Ask before hugging”); and finally there are the perverts and agitators - people like Nick - who give furries a bad rep and who are only tolerated by enablers. Just as with other fandoms, there are people who get off on deplorable things; but, IMHO, I think that part of the issue is due to the fact that the furry fandom in particular tends to attract a lot of people with antisocial tendencies: Firstly, the fandom is very neurodivergence-positive. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. People who struggle with interpersonal human interaction (either from mental or emotional reasons) often find animals a lot easier to connect with over people, so to them, the fandom is simply a place where they can feel safe and find community. Unfortunately, these people can sometimes struggle with social interactions outside of the fandom, leading to misunderstandings about the fandom as a whole. Then there are the narcissists, sociopaths, megalomaniacs, and deviants - they’re usually attracted to the fandom either because of sick and twisted fetishes, or because there are a lot of vulnerable people they can get to admire them, or worse, manipulate into doing or believing what they want them to (including those sick and twisted things). There are so many horror stories in the fandom due to these people that the term “furry drama” is sadly a defining feature within the fandom. Personally, I believe that the fandom’s wide acceptance of sex “positivity” (read as “enabling”) from the beginning has led to much of that drama, both in and out of the fandom - from problems with pedophilia to zoophilia to SA, and extremist counter-movements; if you allow/encourage adult stuff, you’re going to find adult problems. (Fortunately the fandom is pretty quick to kick out abusers, but not always before the damage has already been done - and frankly, the line between “okay” and “abusive” within the fandom is pretty thin, or even overlapping, so it can be a powder keg). I’ve got some horror stories of my own about such furry drama, but since this is a D&D channel, I’ll refrain from telling them here. (As an aside, I should note that the furry fandom helped me find good friends I never would have found without it. Also, furry conventions are a blast if you like anthropomorphic animals - just avoid the room parties and late night panels if you’re not into NSFW stuff; anything else that’s not good clean fun requires an ID to view). And there you have it - probably more than you ever wanted to know about the furry fandom. 😅 And yeah, Nick trying to throw all furries under the bus to cover for his own bad behavior was not cool.

I wonder if whomever made that game running in the background have licensed the graphics from sun soft or if they're just banking on nobody recognizing it from the NES version of Batman? ;-)

I kinda felt bad for the furry guy until the last bit. That part made it feel like he couldn't take a hint and got frustrated.

To the OP in the last story BLOCK HIM you can do it from most phones otherwise call your cellphone provider and they can do it on their end

The OP in the first story, I was glad she left instead of just accept the DMs "I'll make sure it doesn't happen again!" Crap.

Morning Doge! ☕️

Caoimhe is 8th century irish celtic and it is indeed pronounced kee-va my last name is Fiadh another one of those names and is pronounced as Fee-ah i already heard this off den of the drake but im certainly interested in seeing your reaction to it. i personally think they should have cut something important off of the player that did what he did but hindsight and all that.

I do not understand the logic of thinking a person might be a furry and so it would be ok to rape their character in game. This is completely warped thinking.

one of my partners is a furry. furries can be the coolest people youll meet, and a lot of them dont stand for this behavior. honestly, the DM in the first story didnt help, and it felt like they were trying too hard to excuse sexual assault.

i'm sorry, how is "i thought she was a furry" an excuse?

Hey Doge, the pronunciation of the rogue's name is normak, It's an Irish name, the female version of Kevin (Caoimhin)

Title story: DM's a bit of an enabling @$$hole, and Nick wouldn't last one minute at a table with me after he pulled that crap.

I'm a DM, and a furry, but I don't care how good friend a player is, if he tries that stuff in my game, he's immediately kicked from my game.

Lucky I weren't there nick might have lost fingers irl

"Nick tought you were a furry" ... Because no means no is not something furries believe in, I guess?

The problem didn’t come from OP not being direct enough or that the stalkers/creepy players couldn’t get the hint- the problem was entirely them and their refusal to accept no as an answer. They understand what No means, they just didn’t want to accept that someone wasn’t interested in them. They both understood that the other person wasn’t interested in them- they just didn’t care. Another I wanted to point out is that, no matter how long you’ve been friends with someone, that kind of behavior is unacceptable. The DM was making excuses for Nick when he was absolutely in the wrong. I have to wonder if he’s done similar things before that were brushed under the rug because his friends would much rather ignore the behavior than do anything about it.

Consent. That's all. Don't make excuses.

I think Den of the Drake already covered this first one

What weirds me out is not just the part where he... Does the thing. But the fact that his name is "Nick" and his character is a fox, like in Zootopia. Ugh... I really hope that's a fake name.