"Don't google it." Has to be the best doge cutaway joke in weeks, actually laughed my ass off.

@isthatyouman09

10 ай бұрын

Same here, the sincerity is his eyes got me. 😂

That first story sounds like newbie crushing. Some veteran players get irrationally angry with new players coming in and feel the need to chase them out, forgetting that they were newbies once too.

I have never understood why dms think it is cool to insert their fetishes into games without even asking the players

@CatoNovus

Жыл бұрын

Some people think that stuff like this is like a food you've never tried. Give it a taste, you might find you like it.

@andrejg4136

Жыл бұрын

Some people just can't help themselves when they think they have a captive audience. While it's clearly not even a significant plurality of DMs, it's enough to where it's not entirely shocking when you hear about it.

@cliffwarden5934

Жыл бұрын

Its not like it's hard to resist too. I'm a furry and a DM, the most I do in my game is a slightly larger then average population of the anthro species

@lockwoan01

Жыл бұрын

As someone who enjoys and writes fetish material, I tend to put a disclaimer at the beginning as to what's going on, where my interactives are concerned. That way folks know what's going to happen, can can either go "Yep", "Nope", or "Let's take a look." It's the same for DMs - tell folks what's up, so that they can make that choice without doing a whole lot of investment, only to find out that the campaign isn't for them.

@KappaKiller108

Жыл бұрын

Never involve anyone in your sexuality without direct consent, anything less is borderline sexual harassment

for story one, If the DM never apologized then I'm with OP, if they did, I'm with the Doge.

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

We don't know if any side tried to make amends, if not then they must try, it doesn't work? then just cut ties and nice day for both

@rynowatcher

Жыл бұрын

There is also the issue of the differences of the systems from AD&D and 5e. Most characters were different levels in ad&d, and you were expected to start at level 1 when you died so a 7 level lead is something you dealt with; the classes leveled at different exp values. Orcs are 1 HD monsters in ad&d, so that might have been the dm setting up the op to shine as the orcs were something their level 1 character should be able to fight, especially with party backup. The "we free you of this weakness," might have been setting up for an "oh yeah?" Moment. By the standards of how the game was played at the time, this was a reasonable RAW interpretation of the ad&d rules. You tended to die in it a lot more, but this was the Era of gaming where you rolled for stats, hp, and starting wealth. You could end up with a fighter with -3 con and str with 1 hp at level 1 and be too poor to have a dagger or armor. Heck, sometimes the dm targeted you more to kill the low stat character so you get a chance to reroll your stats. Death is not always a bad thing in these games.

@aluralovell6829

Жыл бұрын

​@@GarkKahn Any side? Only one side needed to make amends in the first place.

@aluralovell6829

Жыл бұрын

​@@rynowatcher See I could almost agree with this if it weren't for a few factors. 1. OP made it very clear that they only survived the encounter by the skin of their teeth meaning Orcs were not in fact weak. 2. DM actively refused to give OP anything to even attempt to fix the stat issue if that was the case, no weapons, no armor, no nothing and even refused to give them xp. Now I could give DM benefit of the doubt and think maybe DM was too dense and narrow-minded to think of any other solutions to the problem than killing off OP's character and making them reroll, I mean we're all guilty of being set in our ways and not seeing the better solution. However, you would have to be really dense or just not care not to know why OP doesn't join your games anymore when they straight up left right after you refused to give them xp like you didn't already know the problem and not only didn't apologize but didn't even try to explain your reasoning if you didn't think you did anything wrong. Now call me cynical but typically when people do this it's because they're holing by not addressing it you'll forget what they did, especially since it's a game.

@rynowatcher

Жыл бұрын

@@aluralovell6829 the thing is, AD&D was played very different than 5e with a very different point of the game. You have to judge based on the game, and this is a very raw interpretation of the AD&D rules. It is like saying, "you are a bad gm because my character went insane in Call of Cthulhu!" The characters and character classes were not meant to be balanced. There were lots of monsters that targeted armor, weapons, gear, and such. Your 13th level magic user could have his spell book destroyed after getting half way through the dungeon and having cast all their spells, meaning they lost them all with no way to get them back. If your 20th level fighter died (which could happen with a single failed saving throw), they were expected to rejoin the campaign at level 1 if no one wanted to resurrect them (or could; there were a lot of monsters that kept your soul for permadeath. The orcs were 1 HD monsters in ad&d, meaning they were not that tough, but if all you do is run away without leaving the room or hiding means they are getting hits on you till the rest of the party can kill them; that is always going to be a close call because ad&d did not have dodge actions or ways to decrease (ac was defending with THAC0) your ac for most classes. Matt Coville did a video called, "what d&d is about" where he explains the difference between modern and past versions of d&d and how they are played where he compared ad&d to a survival horror game once you got into a dungeon. If you have never played ad&d, you need the context of what the game is, which I think most 5e players miss in this story.

The knot thing didn't even make sense! Lizards don't even do that!😠

@elmerthiendoesgames9061

Жыл бұрын

Lizards are similar to snakes in that department. If the DM described that, it would still be creepy, but at least it wouldn't be as wrong as making the dragonborn part dog.

@MisterGreis

Жыл бұрын

Werewolf lizard.

Personally, I agree with the op of the first story for refusing to play under that GM again. Yeah, it was 15 years ago, and people can change in that amount of time, but that doesn't excuse the horrible first impression they gave to the op of the game. Force op, who is a brand new player, to start at level 1 in an ongoing level 8 campaign so they can "learn how level up properly," only to not only start them with no equipment, but also give them nothing in terms of items or loot in the dungeon. On top of that, you focus fire on their woefully underpowered character when they barely have any way to defend themselves, then give them no xp because they didn't kill any of the enemies that were too strong for them. No, I don't blame op for not touching dnd for 2 years after that. I've heard similar stories of bad dms like this where the op or another player in the story shuns the game for a decade or more or, even worse, never touches a tabletop game again.

@paulman34340

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, makes me think the DM KNOWS he's a POS and asked OP simply so he can "quiet the voice in his head that reminds him he is" only for OP to "confirm" what he was trying to avoid admitting, "he's an AH!" This doesn't make him good for acknowledging it because he's yet to apologize and own up to it! But at least you can get some satisfaction that he KNOWS he's an asshole and can't deny it no matter how much he tries to play it off to himself!

@jrytacct

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm not with Doge on this one. The guy screwed him over royally and now wants him to come back? Unless he's *leading* with a very sincere apology for that old game, then no way.

@SamWeltzin

Жыл бұрын

So far as we're aware, there wasn't even an apology, so I don't see why a second chance would be warranted. There's plenty of other people to play with; you don't owe someone who hurt you anything just because you played with them once.

@originaluddite

5 ай бұрын

At minimum, you'd want to ask mutual friends or acquaintances their opinion about whether this DM _has_ changed at all, before considering anything.

@AzureKyle

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it honestly sounds like the DM just wanted a punching bag.

I'm so sick of those guys that get upset when players "don't let [them] play they way [they] want to play" when the way they want to play is in complete opposition to the rest of the table. Like, dude, you're not the only one at the table trying to have fun

@fred_derf

9 ай бұрын

The way they want to play is to disrupt the game and ruin everyone else's fun -- that's their goal.

I'm not sure how much "we aren't all like this" I got left in me💀the prospect of playing in a game with someone like that when you expect otherwise is blech

@jacksparrowismydaddy

Жыл бұрын

my friends know what I'm like and thats who I play with. if someone I don't know thinks poorly of me nothing I can do to fix it.

@luckyslob3359

Жыл бұрын

It’s fun trying to advocate for the fandom and prove that’s it’s just like any other hobby when some of its participants are hellbent on burning all that to the ground…

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

We reached the point of "not all men are equal but i REALLY want one of those that are different"

@gnollsuwu3861

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@SamWeltzin

Жыл бұрын

Just a reminder that the awful furry stories are less frequent and sink to far fewer depths of depravity than the shit non-furry horror stories can get to. Maybe there's some that I missed or something, but I have yet to hear a furry horror story involve real-life SA, violence, or stalking. Putting your fetish in a game is bad, but that's almost always what these stories entail.

As someone who enjoys and writes fetish material, I tend to put a disclaimer at the beginning as to what's going on, where my interactives are concerned. That way folks know what's going to happen, can can either go "Yep", "Nope", or "Let's take a look." It's the same for DMs - tell folks what's up, so that they can make that choice without doing a whole lot of investment, only to find out that the campaign isn't for them.

@stevenschnepp576

3 ай бұрын

I know, right? It's not hard to tag the fetishes involved. Hell, doing that is _marketing._

@lockwoan01

3 ай бұрын

@@stevenschnepp576 Yep. Less complaints that way, if they know what might show up.

7:58 Dunno why, but the way you kept your rig completely still as you delivered that line was just pure comedy gold. 🤣

The stern look as I was told not to google it, it nearly struck fear into my heart. I feel terrible that doge had to experience whatever that means.

@DespairDoctor

Жыл бұрын

All I will say about it is that it has to do with male dog junk.

@cvernon5256

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, certain animals remain coupled for extended periods when mating. That's the gist of it.

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

I have no idea what you just said and i'm happy to keep it like that Knowledge is power, But ignorance is a blessing

@rollanddev

Жыл бұрын

Meh. Canines (dogs, wolves, foxes...) have a slight difference in their reproductive anatomy that causes them to remain "stuck" in their mate for a brief period to increase their chance of successfully reproducing. Doge is making a bigger deal out of this than it is. FWIW, this is *not* for hours at a time. Or even remotely close. It makes as much sense to... "roll a knot-check"... the next morning than for a character to roll to see if they still have morning wood in the evening. Actual biology v. furry lore tend to differ a lot. The latter is an important ingredient in many home-made blends of cringe. :)

@Vahktang

Жыл бұрын

But the Paladin was a Dragonborn, not even mammalian, so, ought not have a dog’s knot.

In the Vampire the Masquerade LARP story even if the wife's character had no connection to her husbands (which isn't made clear in the story) the destruction of the Prince after he destroyed a sucessful Anarch recruiter makes sense lore wise. The Setites are independent and highly opportunistic so generally a stable Camarilla presence isn't ideal. Further there's a distinct possibility that her character had allies among the Anarchs. Sadly there's not enough info in the story to attribute blame to anyone but I will say that if the death of a Prince was enough to end the campaign the ST wasn't great at their role.

@keybladewizard49

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it was the death of the Prince; I think it was the player throwing a tantrum.

@hel117

Жыл бұрын

I dont think it was really the fault of the ST? it sounds like the princeling made quite the fuss and made it too hard to continue.

The LARP game could have continued with the battle for Princedom, I think the issue was the Prince hedging a lot more on the fact that He was the top of the power structure and immune of consequences...

@alanbear6505

Жыл бұрын

I suspect the issue was more about how the players were acting out of game than the actual storyline. I can't blame a GM for wanting to bail when the player drama gets too intense.

1st story...if the DM really felt that a newbie should learn how to play with a level 1 character, then they should have insisted that OP wait until he was beginning a new game, though maybe let OP sit in a few sessions to watch.

@timemonkey

Жыл бұрын

Or run a one-shot or two to get OP some experience before having the character join the party. The party gets to play together and all end up invested in OP's backstory since they're part of it.

"Waiting for the knot to deflate" sadly I watched enough Discovery Channel and had plenty of dogs to already know what that is without googling it.

I disagree with Doge on the first story. There is no reason to assume the GM has grown, changed, and improved as a GM and/or looks back on that behavior and "cringes" at it unless the GM brings it up and apologizes about it. Most likely, that GM has no particular memory of the event in question (it was a single game session from 15 years ago). Heck, the fact that the GM doesn't already understand why the player won't play at the GM's table anymore indicates that the GM has never considered his behavior that day to be anything out of the ordinary.

On the subject of ghosting the dm. I'm in a VERY long running campaign. With many of the same people for 3 years now. We have this one character that rarely shows up on time if she shows up at all. And almost never tells anyone if she's not going to be able to make it. I'm something of a problematically passionate person when it comes to certain things. One of which is disrespect. And her not bothering to tell anyone is worse than disrespect at this point. It's like she doesn't think we're worth the common courtesy of dropping us a text. I've been working on myself with a therapist so I haven't reacted to her, but I've had to ask the Dm to talk to her. He did, and she gpt marginally better but only lets HIM know, so we have to wait to hear it from him. Not a horror story, but allowed me to commiserate slightly.

@rootfish2671

11 ай бұрын

DM should have booted hee a long time ago

The DM from the "That Guy" story is a little weak. Maybe there were outside circumstances affecting their mental state, but OP didn't say anything so I'm going off the facts presented. One guy acts out of pocket and they fold like a house of cards? Like why? And the OP not talking to any of their "friends" after this incident? Were they even friends to begin with?

@GarkKahn

Жыл бұрын

It seems a lot of things happened outside Unless things escalated quickly there then we only heard a small fraction of the story

@unluckyone1655

Жыл бұрын

If I had to guess, maybe DM just wasn't into DMing anymore and used this incident as an out? But the no one wanting to talk to each other anymore is sus

First story: as long as you give them proper gear and give them EXP, an underdeveloped member joining a party in AD&D isn't that uncommon. A level 1 joining with LV8s will usually be around 6 before the rest hit 9. And if they're a fast grow class, the gap is minimized even sooner. In my Hackmaster campaign, we just added a level 2 to a party of level 5s, and she does very well in combat. She'll be 4 when most of the party hits 6, and it will even out around mid 6. These old systems are just like that, but the DM has to put in the work to let them contribute and reward them for their participation.

@RunningBear2525

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Also curious: Which edition of Hackmaster (my only irl game is Hackmaster 4e)?

@LucyBean42

Жыл бұрын

Hack 4e here. She's a fighter/assassin 2/2, so sneak attack with weapon specialization is badass.

@RunningBear2525

Жыл бұрын

Nice! My boy is a Wood Elf Ranger (lvl 5), and I would've dipped into cleric, but the only rules we've got in our books is for dual classing (weirdly humans only).

@bonthebunnycat667

Жыл бұрын

Counterargument: Fireball, high level Magic Missile

@Vahktang

Жыл бұрын

In AD&D, the first level character holds the torch, gets leveled normally. If the DM responds with: You get no XP’s since you did not kill anything, the party responds with subdual damage and having the 1st level character deal the death blow until he is equal.

I disagree with doge on the first story. That experience would put off ANY player from wanting to play with that DM again. As the saying goes "No DND is better than bad DND." Plus in the 15 years since that happened there's been a massive increase in other ways to find DMs to play with. It's easy enough to just avoid the bad DM regardless if they've changed or not. I certainly wouldn't risk playing with a DM like that again just to find that out.

Your "don't google it" moment should be a meme

That last story illustrates why I never play outside of punching distance

While I do agree that people can change with time especially over the span of many years, the fact that the DM in the first scenario was acting like he didn't do anything wrong, didn't make any attempt to acknowledge what happened, is already a bad sign. I've had unrelated incidents with friends who would act like they had learned a lesson or changed, but obviously didn't reflect enough on the situation to actually retain the lesson itself. It was evident in their inability to articulate it. And it would sometimes become more obvious if I did try giving them a chance, that they had in fact not learned from it at all. So personally I don't think that person was being too cruel to react the way they did. Especially if the first incident alone was almost enough to drive them away from the hobby completely.

The LARP-story reminds me of the movie "Dr Strangelove" and the qoute "What good is a doomsday-device if it is kept secret?" By not extorting the prince with the stolen heart, it was just a terrorist-action to destroy it.

The whole thing with the deflating knot is not something inherently bad, it is just a detail of some animals' anatomy and something you probably should learn about if you have a dog. But I agree with Doge to not use google to look it up, you will probably get a lot of weird and unhelpful results. The problem with the way it was used here is twofold. A) the DM gave a graphic description despite being explicitly asked not to and B) there is no reason for Dragonborn to even have knots, so it was just shoehorned in so the DM could give a graphic description.

@fred_derf

9 ай бұрын

"so it was just shoehorned in so the DM could give a graphic description." and screw with the player.

@stevenschnepp576

3 ай бұрын

"... and something you probably should learn about if you have a dog." I've had dogs for decades, and never once needed to know how their dicks worked.

2e D&D is brutal enough on it's own, but with an unfair DM it's downright unplayable.

Oof... I knew exactly what was being referenced the moment I saw the word "knotty" - I spend too much time on the internet. 😞

@realdragon

Жыл бұрын

I've seen a lot of shit furries do, no I'm not furry

@stevenschnepp576

3 ай бұрын

Profile picture checks out.

*"Don't google it"* Always my favorite last words-

The DM from the first story should have awarded that player XP for surviving as long as he did. Of course, he should have started him off at a higher level and given him things to do, too.

@Metal_Horror

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I would think there are plenty of ways to learn from an encounter other than simply doing damage. Hiding, witnessing the fight, even being healed - your character learns from everything which is what I think experience mostly symbolizes. The orc battle in particular would have brought lots of experience, and in fact, seeing as how he's a new player and far behind the others, I would've awarded that character extra.

Does it say something concerning about me that my first thought to the furry DMs comment was “The hell is he taking about, reptiles don’t have knots 🤨” ?

At the end of the first story I assume OP meant the former DM asked why they didn't play, since they had just been talking about a different friend. Either way I think OP is NOT over reacting. Apparently that DM never figured out what they fucked up, and unless they actually apologize for it there's no reason to believe they'll be any different. 15 years is a lot of time, but unless that GM thinks their actions back then were wrong it might as well have been 15 days. Also, it's really hard to believe that a campaign could have 6 people ghost at once for actual good reasons. Is it possible? Yes. But I find it REALLY hard to believe. I assume thr DM from the story that Bob ruined must have had his life falling apart around that time, cuz otherwise quitting over BOB? Weak. Any and all characters like Bob should be summarily executed and have their equipment divided up. Pacifism is fine but actually killing characters for killing literally anything? Nope. You go in the pile. Doge is wrong about the Vampire Larp. "The wife is the problem" is a pretty wild take. The Prince whined that their character was killed as a result of something they did. And that something was to kill another player character.

It wasn't just in combat. If I'm understanding the post right the knight was trying to eliminate the weapon by hiding it in already searched rooms so that the player wouldn't find it. It sounds like the knight didn't want the weapon to exist and tried to lose it through in game happenstance. After that failed he seemed to have chosen to just restrict the user in combat in a manner that could have killed OP. My guess, based on past experiences, is the crossbow was too effective and the knight didn't like that he wasn't able to do much or show off as well and simply tried to get rid of what he saw as a problem while trying to avoid accountability and resistance. In the end he went from trying to get rid of the weapon to endangering OP's character. PK may not have been the intent but I doubt there would have been much remorse since it would have been a permanent solution to the issue.

one of my 3 best loved AD&D characters started his career in a lvl 10 module, as the apprentice of the party wizard... he came out lvl 3 and laden as an Xmas tree.

First story: I understand why they refused to play with them. This was their first time meeting them and *that* was his they decided to run it? The OP was targeted. And while the DM could have gotten better there is also the likelihood of them becoming worse. So I don't fault them for letting sleeping dogs lie. And the last story: three DM should have stopped that cold. Plus, a warrior leaving their signature weapon in the hands of a stranger for an hour would probably make them feel naked. And the EK would have been doing something magical to his weapon. There would have been tells, not just his weapon suddenly being someone else's. How would they have felt if OP was able to do the same thing their armor? I know it can be fun but requires trust to be built up. Otherwise, you're agitating someone because you want to be mean.

@paulman34340

Жыл бұрын

Yep, DM ruined his own first impression by not going slightly easy on OP! Yeah his campagins are brutal, but he had ways of lowering the brutality for the sake of the OP learning AND keep things leveled! The moment he had the BBEG declare OP dead weight and he'd be "doing the party a favor killing him" he revealed his hand, why would the villain focus on the weakling when he could focus on REALISTIC THREATS LIKE THE WIZARD OR CLERIC! That's not having your villain be "pragmatic" that's having them be a dick on purpose while "pretending" their being pragmatic" and last I remember, did DM even declare how XP is gained, or OP told in any fashion how? Cause unless OP was made aware, DM scammed him out of deserved XP as I remember many games where you got XP for participating, NOT because your last blow the enemy's! I know some have this rule, but it's made aware to the players BEFOREHAND so they know, not "left field out of suprise BS!"

@cvernon5256

Жыл бұрын

@paulman34340 that's completely true. Heck, it's even suggested that merely surviving dangerous encounters is worth xp. Look at traps and skill challenges. You can't kill your way into a level with those. And managing to talk your way out of a Black Dragon's lair or escape a group of stalking Umber Hulks should net you something. Plus, you could make crafting and gathering fun and rewarding by having story arcs and leveling that happen that way. I know that DnD isn't exactly built to accommodate all of this but it'd be fun

One that guy makes the campaign explode over little more then a single session of a threat to PVP.... yeah I can't help but wonder if there wasn't something else going on with the DM that OP didn't notice. Maybe he was getting fatigued from running for so long. I can only speculate.

The kitties be blessing us through this session. And it's always good that the magic Doge has and will remain, the chill DM here.

The that guy story there has to be more to it then what Op is letting on, because this sounds more like the straw that broke the camel’s back then just one toxic player

When I played the From the Abyss campaign, the DM was in such a hurry to finish that he used fiat in the same way, in to successive sessions, to prevent us from going to Luskan teach a lesson to a certain malefactor wizard., which we wanted to do before launching the final scene of the campaign...I spent nearly a decade before I ccepted to game under that DM again.

7:58 "Don't google it", you're few years too late

For the furry dm, from what I know that male dragonborns don't have that anatomical portion of his 'equipment'.

I've been the DM who ended a game after "one experience with That Guy." The player probably missed all the other warning signs. Just because you, the players, are having fun doesn't mean the DM is. Most players are parasites who only take and get upset with the DM for not catering to them in every way. While that can be... fine, if you really want to run a game, it can also mean you're pretty much always a hair's breadth away from deciding that running the game and getting shat on by another one of those parasites just isn't worth it.

Also i feel relaxed whenever I hear your voice, I feel relaxed from listening your Dnd stories and maybe whenever I have a bad day, I would like listen to your stories just to relive my stress

I once played a L1 fighter in a group of l8-10s. By the time they went up one more level I had almost caught up.

the vampire game: Dont make dumb decisions and you wont get revenge killed. Baby got mad cause he got killed when he was used to being the big bad. Just means new space for story and political changes.. Which is part of vampire. Also why i wont play vampire. I dont wanna get into that mess cause i absolutely would revenge kill for friends.. and burn down everything around me as i go.

Holy crap. I started playing AD&D with a group of much higher level characters compared to my lv 1 multi-classed one (meaning it would take twice as long to level as all exp was divided between the two classes)...but I was also given a +1 sword, elven chain, and didn't have to divide my rolled HP to balance that out. It's doable, especially since classes didn't level at the same rate back then so you were going to get a mix of levels in there anyway, but not if your DM is a total d-bag.

Ist one: characters were almost never the same level in AD&D; the classes do not gain levels at the same exp values (theives and druids leveled fast because they were not expected to live all the way, start to finish). If a level 8 died in the campaign, you usually started with a level 1 or saved for a resurrection. That is not an issue. Orcs were 1 hit die monsters in ad&d, so this was probably a lot scarier seeming to op than it was. The dm was most likely throwing some low level baddies to give the player something to fight, as the orc might only have 1 hp (the dm was supposed to literally role dice for the hp of a monster). Ad&d lead rise to the birth of the murder hobo because you only got exp for killing stuff; minor exp for treasure or story beats. You needed to kill stuff to level, RAW. I do not think this was a bad dm for ad&d; it seemed appropriate for the system. That was just the rules of the

my first time playing D&D saw the whole party TPK'd by a lone bugbear.... I'm still gaming 43 years later.

...eldritch knight bonded with another PC's weapon _to gaslight them_ technically allowed per RAW, but a total richard relocation

Hey Doge, happy Tuesday - and Hey Ziggy, you sting loving house panther. Yep, he does love string. Why is Strahd the campaign responsible for so much cringe? Does it attract "that Guy" or something else.

Following through on one’s commitments is part of having integrity.

The Furry DM story had me pause and leave the room to contemplate life.

I had a character die once because I couldn't male a game. (They always scheduled it last minute. ) when I was told to roll up a new one they said it had to be level 1 while the rest where level 5

On the first story, maybe it's my paranoid mind at work here, but I think the DM had it out for OP for whatever idiotic reason.

Yes, weapon bonding with another player's weapon is dumb. But, I did have a player who's characrer was a weapon.

You've come a long way since I first found you getting chastised by Drake for over posting your videos really glad your channel picked up. I love your voice.

@DnDDoge

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I learned pretty quick posting links on Reddit was frowned upon, lol

*puts on furry hat* Reptiles, and by extension dragons, would not have a knot. DM needs to research his animal anatomy if he is going to go that far.

About being ghosted story well... at least they apologized It wasn't the case for me a few years ago, one of many reasons why i left that group of friends. I must be the one that puts 99% of the hard work and receive 1% of the reward because if i want to balance either of those things then it's suddenly unfair for them... Thinking about it makes me happy to know they aren't around anymore

Starting a character at level 1 when the other PCs are level 8 is simply sadism.

As much as I'd like to excuse a DM failing to redesign a session around a sudden new party member, if you're going to have an entire end encounter ignore its members' personal survival to focus on the enemy least threatening to them (or even most threatening if they shouldn't realize the fact) there had better be both a very good and preplanned explanation for it and a deux ex machina set up to terminate that encounter. This is being a dick. Since I don't know how much contact the two people had with each other since (although there was clearly some) I couldn't say how reasonable it was to assume the DM hadn't changed. Okay, I know enough about animals to be entirely familiar with knots, though I can see no reason why dragonborn would normally have them, so we're definitely intruding fetishes here. And yes, telling players how their characters' genitals look and work should qualify as "graphic". One thing about the LARP story: This is also a Vampire: the Masquerade LARP, which means that if at a random point in a typical story random character A suddenly killed random character B it would be hard to prove it was out of character. In this case, I'd imagine the main problem was that particular death messing up the entire planned storyline. The natural balance between the Camarilla and Anarchs is usually maintained by the Anarchs being much easier to live within - except when the issue is living at all because they're usually much worse at dealing with a serious outside threat. I can see a Storyteller angling to set up for such an outside threat being promptly cut off by the collapse of the centralized leadership in the area. I don't think the "hit squad" was a good idea - while a Camarilla Prince is very nearly required to be an asshole, in a LARP it's even more important to keep the being an asshole within accepted limits - but retaliating with no followup in mind to explain the act or develop the story wasn't a great idea either.

@WildArmACF

Жыл бұрын

Dm in story one should have given him a lvl 7 character with a chance to level up at the end if he wanted him to learn how to level up. Or at least have the monsters ignore his level 1 self as he wasnt a threat. He could have at least tossed him a med kit or a "blank" of invisibilty that failed after he left the dungeon. There's like a million ways to give a newby a chance to experience the game and give them an easier first time playing. Fudge the dice for em even. That dm was just being a murder hobo who wanted to kill the new pc. the Larp.. Consequences of his actions. go after a threat, not a nuisance. If he was so threatened he could have gone mob boss and had em pay protection or do something to put pressure on him. Killing him out like that.. Nah.. Going to far especially as a newer player.

First Story: I would only consider playing with him as the DM if he *first* apologized *on his own* (without prompting) for the terrible way he treated me in the first game. If he's grown, matured, etc. then he can demonstrate it.

Bless doge for thinking people can change over 15 years. It’s shocking how little that happens

I have to disagree with you Doge. DM in the first story was clearly bullying OP by keeping them level 1, giving them no loot and even having the orcs in the final battle focus on killing them specifically. If a DM did that to me I wouldn't play in their games either, unless they came to me in advance and apologise for being such a jerk BTW great to see you playing Summoner, I remember that game from back in the day. Hope you try out Summoner 2 as well, it's even better

The freaking cat in the beginning with the spanish dubbing was killing me

I don't need to google it, I already knew what he meant doge...

I would awaken the weapon and say "ah he'll no eldritch knight".

15 years is a long time. I was very bad at being a DM as a kid 15 years ago. But I like to believe iv grown alot since than.

that old school tradition of starting at level 1 when the party is high level is IMO very, very, very, extremely STUPID

Dragonborn, not a mammal, no knot. And hope the the DM does not know what male snakes have.

8:00 *OH GOODNESS FUCK NO.* Bad time to take a bite of cheese cake. also, you speak with just such a feeling of you made the mistake of googling it and I am so sorry if you did. lmao

Destroying the Prince's heart was not the power play there. She should have used it as leverage against him to get him to call off the Blood Hunt.

Gonna be honest that eldritch knight thing is kinda hilarious

18:45 🤣🤣🤣🤣 What a legend!

Dogo.. on that sec story.. and "Don't google it" My sides man

7:57 I paused the video to figure out what that means. 7:59 I should of wait that extra 2 seconds to listen to that warning.

Mister doge, I must say that I miself meet 20 years ago my "first" DM... IT WAS AWFULL, he makes Rogues literally indestructible war machines capable of use wizards books better thatn the wizards like a pro, using the catalizer of clerics and druids GAINING theirs spells, make sneak attack whenever they like and sh*t like that, and when come of noc... horrible, stupids jerks that always make fun (in the bad way) of the party and being overleveled at the situation, fe a group of lvl 20 farmers that needed help to little vermins (F*ckinf werewolves... we were at lvl 2...) and, when we get almost killed, they came, killed the monsters and bragas about we paying them and crap like that, mind you that was 20 years ago, the last week It happend to meet a new player in his table (I speak no more with him) and HE STILL DO THE SAME CR*P, HE IS LIK 35 NOW AND EVERY TABLE TELL HIM TO STOP, so, dont be so sure about time changing ppl, be scepteical bc, if they change, IS a good new, if note, at least you make no spectations

Well doge i do agree on the first story that people change over time and 15 years is a long time with how that DM was i wouldn't be so confident

Party is at level 8 and you start at level 1? If this is like a 1st edition game where when characters die they have to start back at level 1, then yeah, heck I'd love to play a game like that. A game where death is common and life is cheap, 1st edition heavily focuses on combat and a lot less on story and role-playing. But this is a 5th edition campaign, with a new player no less, characters are supposed to be on somewhat equal footing to play their role and develop a story along the GM.

That wasn't a character consequence, larp, that was a whiny nepotism player consequence. The prince dies, blank is now prince done.

5:05 Eh, I give them (The OP) the benefit of the doubt for knowing that DM more than I would.

Hey Dog, what's your oppinion of Neverwinter Nights? the old pc game.

Ok, Doge, I don't know what the hell's wrong with you today. You start out by telling someone to go back to an abusive GM and then finish off by condemning a wife for backing up her husband *like she ought to have done* in game. Seriously, what the hell? Go spend some time with your cats and get your head back on straight.

The stigma with LARP...well one of them...especially vtm...is a couple will always be hard to crack. Because they tend to stay with each other or be allied or meta game together. If you wanna kill 1 you have to kill both...it's a bad cliche. Also...the couple ruined by LARP another one...couple goes in...1 falls for the CHARACTER of another player or power the gm will wield in that fake world and tear the real relationship apart. The second one I've seen many times and has happened to me in fact.

@ss3nm0dn4r8

2 ай бұрын

this larp story is missing the other half where it was explained they started together but split apart into separate factions and the connection was very known

Knott to deflate.....oh...Oh...OH!

A pacifist that kills is NOT a pacifist, thats all I have to say.

In the world of dark ess Larp the problem was the princess player. WOD is a game where the story is about how you lose. In a good game you will always eventually lose.

@rootfish2671

11 ай бұрын

Plus vampires kill each other all the time in that game due to power struggles

Doge: Don’t google it Me, who already knew: Forgive me…

As an Asian Furry this made me uncomfortable beyond my standards

Feels like there is information missing from the larp story.

As a furry, I absolutely gasped and was disgusted. I’m so sorry.

OP said they wouldn't play with the dm if he was dming again, not necessarily as a player though

Had a dm in 2nd adnd who literally had us collect orc ears to gain xp. we called it counting orcs. congrats your healers and support did not level. ever. Wanted to level up? Find a trainer of your class. dude had issues lol.

You should have used a furry version of freaky Fred from Courage as the thumbnail

It's fine to not be able to attend a game (It's a game after all!) but it's absolutely not ok to not bother informing the DM/GM that you can't attend! No details required, just a quick "Sorry I can't make it. Something came up unexpectedly.". Doing otherwise is a complete dick move considering the amount of work most DM/GMs put into their games.

"Dont Google It" 😁

As for the LARP story, the prince guy just got a hearty helping of consequences! Also I don't get why people complain about lewd DMs or lewd furry DMs, I'd love to have one.

@newbienoah9461

Жыл бұрын

You do realize that not everyone is horny 24/7 There's a time and a place for that

@Insane234

Жыл бұрын

@@newbienoah9461 it just seems with all the complaining that finding a lewd table would be hard Since everyone would be too afraid of showing up in one of these stories

Also, man, I know it's not the easiest lexicon in the world, but man, the sects, generations and general terminology of VtM so often gets butchered. I get it, believe me, I do, but man, it's triggering as a long time player. Lol

@rootfish2671

11 ай бұрын

White Wolf seems to have a fetish for having an entire glossary of terms to memorize for their games

O ziggy bilangual that’s impressive.

Verdict got for this first case every one sucks except op.

They said they refused to play in a game they DM’d again which is reasonable want to make an asshole first impression thats gonna happen

I think DND Doge is being far too naiive about his conclusion for the first story. Time and time again we see stories about terrible DMs who never change and end up running out of players due to becoming infamous for being terrible. Bad DMs tend to stay that way.