Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese Rookie of Year Debate Will Never End!
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Robin discusses the latest twists and turns in the WNBA Rookie of the Year debate between Angel Reese of the Chicago Sky and Caitlin Clark of the Indiana Fever.
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Monica McNutt chose Caitlin as the ROTY for the same reason last week… no-one said a word… CC fans need to get a grip…
@ShakedownsStory
25 күн бұрын
THANK YOU. This is how I know they don’t actually care they just want everyone to kiss Caitlin ass.
@denisebailey3226
25 күн бұрын
@@ShakedownsStory we not doing that!!!! THEY NOT LIKE US!!!!! LOL
@soccergoal4090
25 күн бұрын
Notice, when they play those Gilbert Arena clips, they don't play what Gilbert Arena said because it doesn't fit the narrative
@alancourtney1367
24 күн бұрын
@@saturnteatree could you provide a clip of that for everyone to see?
@saturnteatree
24 күн бұрын
@@alancourtney1367 kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6R53Ldsm8-4Xbw.htmlsi=9OGeEbBIzXkajiEa
If both players continue at their similar rates, CC should easily win ROTY. And Reese should very easily be runner-up. Looking forward to seeing Brink back next year, hopefully she can come back strong
Why does no one consider defense in these conversations? Angel is guarding Stewie, A'ja, Napheesa and Bonner. Caitlin doesnt guard the best player ever.
@user-kw5ot1wf1d
25 күн бұрын
@blaquekyd no the best players guard her 2 or 3 at a time, they can afford to leave reese by herself she can't hit the broad side of a barn
@blaquekyd
25 күн бұрын
@@user-kw5ot1wf1d so you admit CC plays no defense?
@user-kw5ot1wf1d
25 күн бұрын
@blaquekyd reeses' defense is about like her IQ (nil)
@user-yn6tp2mc1p
25 күн бұрын
@@user-kw5ot1wf1dYea Seattle storm thought that too and Angel Reese hit two 3's on they ass last night.
@TheODLawson23
25 күн бұрын
@@user-yn6tp2mc1p Let's see what happens next game.
Angel Reese has a plus/minus of 1.8 which ranks number one among rookies. Caitlin Clark has a plus/minus of -5.9 which ranks 6th among rookies. Reese has a player impact estimate of 13.0 which ranks first among rookies. Clark has a PIE of 11.2 which ranks 2nd. Reese has a player efficiency rating of 19.3 which is 1st among rookies. Clark has a PER of 16.1 which is 2nd. So, Reese is leading in a lot of measurements that are irrespective of their respective roles and positions. Clark is leading by far in true shooting percentage at 57.1 which is 1st among rookies (Reese’s is 47.3 which is last among rookies), but Reese has a slight edge in their actual field goal percentage (39.7 to 39.1). Of course Reese is running away with it when it comes to rebounds and Clark is doing something similar with assists, but because those are a part of their distinct roles and positions, you can’t draw a direct comparison.
@tdsportscards
25 күн бұрын
CC averaging 15-5-5 has never been done before as a rookie...while Reese's rebound stats are like that also...we got another 20 games so we'll see
@FreshWater37
24 күн бұрын
Facts over feelings
Angel Reese will always be on the neck of Caitlin Clark for the next 15 years. Alot of people thought she would be blown away in the WNBA but she's right there, her game translates and more
@rafaelmejia5988
25 күн бұрын
Nah. The difference in skillset will create a huge gap.
@brettwillard8892
25 күн бұрын
she creates more of her own rebounds like 38% shooting from 2 inches.
@user-kw5ot1wf1d
25 күн бұрын
@ghsense2626 Yeah, right on her coat tails so she can be seen
@locklife4336
25 күн бұрын
The media puts Reese next to CC but there skill level is totally different. Statistically CC is literally better than Reese in every single category except REBOUNDS.💯
@user-kw5ot1wf1d
25 күн бұрын
@@ghsense2626 ignorance is bliss
I am a new WNBA and Indiana Fever fan and admittedly watch some of the Caitlin Clark videos, but although retired I have a life and get tired of You Tube showing sooooo many on CC. A week ago I "Googled" here on You Tube "Caitlin Clark" and FORTY Caitlin Clark videos appeared...c'mon. This crap is bordering on a cult and I for one wish that every Tom, Dick and Harry find another topic for a video, not JUST Caitlin Clark.
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
Here. Here...
@sbrewt21
25 күн бұрын
The bad part is they have to bash Angel half the time to justify their narrative.
@rollerphone
25 күн бұрын
Clark is really in a unique situation. So 40 videos a day is warranted.
Facts !! Caitlin Clark overall performance on the floor give her the ROTY !!
McNutt has downplayed Clark's achievements since day one. I don't exactly know what her problem is, but I have her on "ignore."
@benjaminsmith2287
25 күн бұрын
Like other women on ESPN.
Mcnutt said the same thing to about Clark for rookie of the year 2 weeks ago when she had the better record. The Fever had number 1 record because the tanked. They had 2 all stars last year.
Give me proof she the best stat wise, not the hype, but she statistically makes the team worest . Reese don’t .Reese a positive
I'm happy we can debate this; both women carry the sport to new heights.
Reese is OVER performing expectations and Clark is UNDER performing expectations. Remember they said she was going to be the GOAT entering into the league. Also, Mitchell, Boston, Smith, and Wheeler can win games without Clark, the Sky needs Angel to win so Angel is making more of a difference for her team as well. When you mention Clarks assist, please mention her turnovers too!!!!!
@mariamonsegur9403
25 күн бұрын
They were expecting a 3 points shooter but she is more than that !! You have to be blind no to see her master passes and great plays making !! Just watch her during the games with no bias just watch and you will see !! ROTY performance for sure !! Caitlin
@WORKSbaby
25 күн бұрын
@@mariamonsegur9403she barely makes 3s n she passes bc she’s ppl kept stealing the ball
@benjaminsmith2287
25 күн бұрын
That's true to an extent. But. Clark is over performing expectations in terms of playmaking, court vision and passing, rebounding, and even steals and shot blocking. She's just not scoring the ball as expected. And I don't agree that Boston, Smith and Wheeler can win games without Clark. Clark is the organizer, driver of that offense and she's accounting for, with her assists, a lot of their points. In the winning game against the Mercury Clark accounted for half of the Fever's points. As far as TOs go, nope, bad argument. The greatest players in the WNBA and NBA have led the league in turnovers. That happens when you're high usage and I can't find a coach in the WNBA that thinks they are a bad thing. Here's Theresa WEatherspoon's response to a reporter asking her about Clark's turnovers "Caitlin is outstanding with what she does. You have to be very smart defensively because she will make sure to get the ball to the right people. We always talk about her ability to score but she has great vision… She understands the game very well, and all [of her] turnovers we talk about, as she continues to grow in this game, all that will [improve],”----So this whole thing about her TOs is overblown.
@WORKSbaby
25 күн бұрын
@@benjaminsmith2287 you must’ve missed Reese tonight 🤣😂 roty😎
@benjaminsmith2287
25 күн бұрын
@@WORKSbaby Reese had a big night. Right now, Caitlin needs to get her points up and expand her game to the same degree Reese is expanding her game. And Carter is just one of the best in the league at her position.
Even more simple theoretical approach...those who have the votes for ROTY, put yourself in the position of GM and you can pick any rookie to join your team at the end of the season. Do you really take AR over CC???
@denisebailey3226
25 күн бұрын
I would take Reese over CC any day!!! It would be great if the Sky can get Mitchell. Reese, Mitchell, Cordosa, and Chennedy would be unstoppable.!!!!!!! Mitchell should leave the Fever before she starts losing her value due to Clark. Same thing for Boston.
@jodale1972
25 күн бұрын
LeBron James averaged 16.5 points, 6.9 rebounds and 6.4 assists over his first 20 games as Cleveland started off 5-15 when he won ROTY. One of these players is comparable but the other is not quite there yet.
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
Yes. I would build with a proven winner and leader who also is a devastating rebounder and a top-notch defender. Reese is doing what she was famous for in college. CC is scoring half that and is reduced to being a passer because of her limited skillset. Reese also has more upside.
@MarilynImparato
25 күн бұрын
CC everyday ALL DAY... Nobody talks about Rodman and most kids today don'teven know who he is... Everybody STILL talks about Jordan... And everybody will STILL be taking about Catlin as well... Mark it down and remember I said it!!!!
Angel is a forward CC is a guard, it' s not fair to even compare the two, these awards should be broken up by position
Angel has the best efficiency rating, net rating, and record of all rookies. That about covers everything. Let me know when one of those things changes. Then we can re-evaluate. Delusional CC fans are looking real sad right now. Not all of them. Just the delusional ones. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kaylamendenhall2393
25 күн бұрын
I had just looked at eff and Clark was ahead of Reese. Unless I looked at it wrong. Which is possible.
@christopherneely2237
25 күн бұрын
@@kaylamendenhall2393 Yes, you looked at it wrong. Go to wnba.com. They have the efficiency rating on there.
@christopherneely2237
25 күн бұрын
@@kaylamendenhall2393 But at least someone gave you a thumbs up for getting the efficiency numbers incorrect.
@saturnteatree
25 күн бұрын
@@kaylamendenhall2393 have to look at stuff like +/- like are other players able to score on you… but i love how everyone is learning 🎉
@kaylamendenhall2393
25 күн бұрын
@christopherneely2237 thumbs up was probably because I'm able to have a conversation without it getting heated. I just relooked and I did look at it wrong and that's my bad.🤷♀️
*Caitlin Clark’s Amazing Rookie Season* fastest player ever to 150 points, 50 rebounds and 50 assists fastest player ever to 200 points, 75 rebounds and 75 assists fastest player ever to 300 points, 100 rebounds and 100 assists tied single-game rookie record for most 3-pointers with 7 tied rookie record for points/assists double-doubles (3, set by sue bird) in a four-game span came 1 rebound short of becoming the first rookie to register a triple-double, and 2 rebounds short on another occasion stats matrix (points - rebounds - assists - steals - blocks) game 3: 22-6-8-1-0 game 5: 21-7-7-0-2 game 6: 11-10-8-4-1 game 8: 30-5-6-3-3 game 12: 30-8-6-4-0 game 15: 23-8-9-0-2 game 16: 18-12-6-4-0 game 18: 17-6-13-4-0 game 20: 15-9-12-0-0 game 21: 13-6-11-1-0 the nba record for consecutive points/rebounds double-doubles is 227. rookie-of-the-year? it is not even a discussion
@mariamonsegur9403
25 күн бұрын
Numbers don’t lie !! #FACTS
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
Now put up Reese's numbers. She's breaking league-wide records, not just those for rookies.
@SnoGo902
25 күн бұрын
5.6 turnovers per game ✌️
@user-yn6tp2mc1p
25 күн бұрын
So you added something from the NBA to discredit what Reese is doing in the WNBA? That's suspicious
Cc has control of the ball way more, she is the team Angel is great but not efficient
@deandreray3500
25 күн бұрын
Facts shes the point guard
@denisebailey3226
25 күн бұрын
Mitchell is the best player on that team, and we all know it!!!!!!!
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
Boston and Mitchell are both better than CC.
@thabomahlangu8041
24 күн бұрын
@@MrLisafrog Lol just because the PG controls the ball means their are the best player on the team 🤣
@FreshWater37
24 күн бұрын
Check the facts on efficiency
CC fans she isn’t as popular as CC well it’s because yal make up 95% of the US population 😂😂😂
@renovo56
24 күн бұрын
Not true only 55%.
CC averaged 17.6 ppg when she played 11games in 20days with no time to practice and the worst coach in the league. Most of those 11 games were against the top 5 teams in the league.
@rafaelmejia5988
25 күн бұрын
That cannot be reflected in any stat... but they're facts.
@thabomahlangu8041
24 күн бұрын
@@zealazax6287 So what we are 20 games into the season. Reese is dominating the best defense in the league.
Clark pulls up from the parking lot to make shots, leads the league in assists which is making her teammates better, one of the top rebounder guards. She also sets record breaking ticket sales and drives prices to go up. There is no debate. Reeses game is restricted to 5 ft of the rim. She gets blocked more than anyone I've ever seen.
@deandreray3500
25 күн бұрын
Not all time she has a horrible shooting percentage as well and as a PG your man goal is to be a coach on the floor can’t be turning the ball over it’s not a run away like you think
@deandreray3500
25 күн бұрын
The popularity thing is a joke yal make up 90 percent of the population
@chameliosalamander8029
25 күн бұрын
Caitlin clark does not lead the league in assists Thomas do
@tommyjack6425
25 күн бұрын
@@deandreray3500 that's a coaching issue. None of these players have set plays on the fast break or in the half court. Sided has never even coached a high-school basketball team before she got her job with the fever. Her team doesn't know how to play off Clark. That's all coaching.
@denisebailey3226
25 күн бұрын
She misses most of her shots in the parking lot. She needs to get closer into the elevator and make some midrange shots. She is a good Seat Filler I will give you that. lol Those turnovers Clark make gives the other team at least 12-15 points every game. The shots that Clark makes, someone always has to screen for her to make them. She can't create her own shot and her defense is horrible. You guys said she was going to be the GOAT coming into the league. Angel was supposed to not be able to transfer her skills from college. Clark OVERHYPED and REESE UNDERESTIMATED!!! Give the Rookie of the year to the one underestimated and improving each and every game.
CC joined a team with a returning coach, many returning players, and two existing all stars. Angel joined a team with a rookie coach, many new players, and no existing all stars. So, Angel is overcoming more. Y'all just make up stuff. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@saturnteatree
25 күн бұрын
Stop talking facts 😂😂😂
@soccergoal4090
25 күн бұрын
Exactly. Their whole starting 5 is different. Plus, they literally have 2 rookies starting. They were projected to be the worst team in the league.
@MaymeIke
25 күн бұрын
I can appreciate what you’re saying, but respond more directly to the points he’s making on Clark’s behalf…
@the_jambassador
25 күн бұрын
You disprove your own point. Fever coach is so bad, they were losers even with 2 all-stars. Sky coach is so good, her team is doing the best they can. Doesn't matter that Sides is a vet--she is a proven bad coach from her awful 1st year. So Angel's good coach gets her best for her. CC bad coach holding Fever all-stars back (proven last year, happening again this year).
@andrewbak08
25 күн бұрын
Did you just put coach Sides being there last season and this as a positive?
Gilbert arenas said on the same episode Reese has to work harder facing better defenders and no screens she has to face it
I believe Angel Reese is ROTY🤷🏾♀️EVERY ONE is entitled to their own opinion. I’m just waiting for these ladies to beat the USA team⛹🏾♀️🇺🇸😂
@CodyCha
25 күн бұрын
CC is much better all around player
99% of the media are for Angel Reese. Despite that Caitlin Clark is still -550 betting favorite, despite the talkin heads doing everything in their power to help Reese. It is clear Caitlin Clark is the best Rookie in the Wnba.
@deandreray3500
25 күн бұрын
Because we are tired of CC
@edvonschleck3098
25 күн бұрын
@@deandreray3500 You are tired of MJ, Messi, Tiger Woods and Tom Brady too? Fucking hypocrites hating on people succeeding in popularity because they are special.
@denisebailey3226
25 күн бұрын
Clark is OVERHYPED and performing below expectations. Remember she was supposed to be the GOAT? lol
@edvonschleck3098
25 күн бұрын
@@denisebailey3226 Then Angel Reese must be the worst rookie to ever lace up her boots, because she is loosing clearly against the "Overhyped" Rookie Caitlin Clark :D And do you even watch the games or you just see Angel is black and like her because of that fact alone? It´s crazy how insecure you still are after majority of the league is black...
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
To you, maybe. Reese is after all-time records. Of course, CC is as well. The one for turnovers.
When they start double teaming and blitzing Reece then come talk to me about ROY
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
When one grabs an offensive rebound, one is always surrounded. That's why its so tough. Besides, when CC brings the ball upcourt, all I see is one defender.
@niviathomas1554
25 күн бұрын
You obviously just talking and don’t watch Angel’s game 🙄🙄
@CodyCha
25 күн бұрын
@@timbabcock7645 when your teammate is shooting from outside, it's hard to grab offensive rebound. When you're missing layup standing under the basket, it's not hard to grab that rebound
@andreray2784
25 күн бұрын
When CC stops leading the league in turnovers, then come talk to me about ROTY.
@edterry5782
25 күн бұрын
When the refs stop calls 34 to 15. It's like roller derby, embarrassing
You can't compare the last year Sky to this year. This Sky team is completely different including the coach. Their whole starting 5 is different. Cardoso, Reese, Carter, Mabrey and Allen are new. While the Fever have the same rosters plus Caitlin Clark.
@tdsportscards
25 күн бұрын
Actually, 3 players remain from last year's team, Mabrey is one of them... I'd like to say Deshields and Williams are the other two
@soccergoal4090
25 күн бұрын
@@tdsportscards My apologies, your right. I was talking about starters. Mabrey is the only one that was here last year that is starting. The other 2 are Dana Evans and Elizabeth Williams who tore her meniscus. The team is completely new
@tdsportscards
25 күн бұрын
@@soccergoal4090 no biggie, these two teams have a lot of good stuff happening with them...but as these two rise, who will fall...my guess is Mercury if Taurasi leaves, or maybe Conn or Storm...Conn live off defense, they do have games where they shoot horrible, Liberty, Lynx, and Aces all have solid players and great coaches...coaching is what's holding back the Fever, LA beating Aces twice this year is interesting, they won because they only had an incredible 3 turnovers for the game, and 19 more shots, they played each possession tight, kudos to LA, Wings still have issues besides a few key injuries
@kikobubblegum6045
24 күн бұрын
@@tdsportscardsEvans and Williams are the other two
@jeffking695
24 күн бұрын
The same team for fever yes. And they were the worst team in the league. Nothing changed but Clark. She made them a lot better.
Mcnut said she would give the nod to who ever team wins more
Hoping it becomes clearer toward the end of the season. Close right now.
There's a podcast on line that views and breaks down Reese''s rebounds that shows how it maybe possible that the whole WNBA is helping Reese stack up stats. There are opponents who will not block her out; they will stand there and allow her to get rebounds and score points!
@TheRobinLundberg
22 күн бұрын
There is not a conspiracy that’s ridiculous
what are the criteria for one winning the roy?
I'm sure that the Spurs record was the determining factor in Wemby getting ROTY..... oh wait!!
It is funny, we say ROTY should be all about what happens on the court. But is not what happens on the court with CC why attendance is so high yet we not to include this metric. Interesting.
@TheRobinLundberg
25 күн бұрын
I don’t include that
@markp353
25 күн бұрын
@@TheRobinLundberg I know. But that is my point, it is because what she does on the court they are coming. But I understand what you meant.
When Clark doesn’t need to be subbed out during defensive possession’s that’s when I’ll even consider her being ROTY.
The WNBA will not allow Caitlin Clark to win ROTY.
@FreshWater37
24 күн бұрын
What factual reason do you have for saying that?
@larrygonzales2771
24 күн бұрын
@FreshWater37 because of all the videos that I have seen of the veteran WNBA players. Especially the ones that are sports channels host. Hell, even the WNBA commissioner left out of the documentary of the four rookies. But now they are going to really think about ROTY for Caitlin Clark because of her TRIPLE DOUBLE TODAY.
Is this a serious debate or is there nothing to talk about? Basically Reese can rebound all her misses and CC does everything on top of being number 1 on the scouting report?
One Question.. If you were going into a pickup game that is full court, who would be your first choice? Mine would bd CC all the way!!!
Caitlin has the ball 90% of the time, so the same way that is used for her turnovers, the same must apply to her stats, if you have the ball that much, I expect you to have assist. Plus their offense is ran through her unlike Angel Reese
CC has been blitzed twice as much as Sabrina
Reese ROTY and MVP conversation. Thank you😊
Scoring average.
It's simple. AR is having a better rookie season as a Forward than CC is having as a Guard. They are not matched up one on one when they play. AR broke a League record while CC breaking rookie records. Who is the better rookie at their position. She not even the best Guard on the Fever. Kelsey Mitchell is...look at the stats...
The sky has an entirely different team what are you talking about
I appreciate your angles, your receipts, and the spirit in which you make them. I will say the Fever edging out the Sky for a playoff spot will certainly help Clark’s side of things…
Reese takes nothing by layups and has a worse shooting percentage than Clark. 😅
Honestly, by the end of the season I think the winner will be clear.
If Catilin did 11 assist a game and 10 points on 39% shooting, people would be bitching up a storm. Angel is good, but she is getting 5 rebounds off her own misses
@FreshWater37
24 күн бұрын
Where did you get that number from? Last I checked she was getting 1.6 rebounds off of her own shots.
Angel Reese's rookie stats should be compared to Aaliyah Boston's rookie stats. That's a fair comparison because of the position that they play. Boston had better percentage that Reese in her rookie season. Boston 57.8% from field and 40% from 3pt. Boston had 14.6ppg and 8.6rpg. Boston's free throw percentage is also better than Reese.
@niviathomas1554
25 күн бұрын
You have to be dumb
@rickylukecage4215
25 күн бұрын
Bro is aaliyah Boston a rookie bro plus they contribute in different ways angel main job is to rebound and score. Also angel has a higher 3pt percentage
@rickylukecage4215
25 күн бұрын
And averages 13 points per game and 12 rebounds while averaging more steals.
@thabomahlangu8041
24 күн бұрын
@@zealazax6287 AR is having a historic Rookie season even compared to that. AR is also leading Major stat as a rookie. No one is has done. Compare her to whoever you want.
@kikobubblegum6045
24 күн бұрын
Boston is also at height in her position. Reese is undersized. It’s one of the reasons she dropped in the draft.
Rebounding matters but doesn’t necessarily result in points where assists are points on the board. You wouldn’t say that Rodman grabbing 18 rebounds made him better than Jordan or Scottie but he definitely contributed to the success of the team.
@kikobubblegum6045
24 күн бұрын
Rebounds are extremely important. And why are we judging based on position. AR will never have as many assists as Clark and Clark will never have as many rebounds as AR. THEY PLAY DIFFERENT POSITIONS PEOPLE! Both are necessary to win a game but rebounds are especially so because they determine the number of possessions you team gets to maybe get those assists and score those points 🙄 please learn how bball works. Please.
@alancourtney1367
24 күн бұрын
@@kikobubblegum6045 nothing in my statement is false. Why so hostile?
@kikobubblegum6045
24 күн бұрын
@@alancourtney1367 it’s not hostility. It’s frustration.
@alancourtney1367
23 күн бұрын
@@kikobubblegum6045 yea I’m not a fan of Reese but Chennedy is winning me over, so long as she keeps it clean and continues to dominate. Can’t nobody stop her. Reese is the kind of player you only like if she is on your team.
And McCant he had a lot of misogynistic takes in that episode and doesn’t have the best basketball mind so please dont put too much weight in his opinion
@petep5207
25 күн бұрын
LEMME GUESS....the only opinions that count are those favoring Angel, correct? So what about Lexie's opinion? She said CC is the ROTY. Is she a misogynist, too?
@saturnteatree
25 күн бұрын
@@petep5207 i dont even think CC or AR cares about that silly award to be honest…. They’re probably tired of ya’ll crying about is everyday
Yall just go act like Angel Reese is not being attacked as Caitlin Clark is. News Flash CC fans… They are both rookies. They both come in to the league as a threat to the veteran players. You have opponents guarding Caitlin Clark like white on rice… and CC fans call it bullying they beating her up on the court they won’t let her score. Where is that same energy for when those same opponents guard Reese snatch her out the air by the neck and you Caitlin Clark fans said NOTHING WE HEARD A RAT PISS ON COTTON… So, Reese wasn’t getting bullied two and three opponents guarding her… Yall need some visine yall only see Caitlin Clark… when those sports analysts, bloggers, content creators are scared to say that Angel Reese is waaaaaay ahead of Caitlin Clark and until yall forgive Angel for winning that ring and Caitlin losing maybe yall will vote fairly… yall don’t like Reese and that’s the only reason she’s going to lose ROTY. She is so much more of an impactful, all around, defender and rebounder… smdh…
CC plays no defense
CC is the one who stat pads
The best all around player is Caitlyn Clark. If it wasn’t for height advantage in the paint where Reese actually “lives” without a 3-second call who would even know her. What has she accomplished to this point ? The best all around player is Clark. She shoots 3’s with consistency from deep,has numerous assist, rebounds, blocks and steals per game. She does it every night. Reese not so much.
@kikobubblegum6045
24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂Reese is 6’3 what height advantage does she have??? She is short for her position. You do realize that’s one of the reasons she dropped in the draft right?
1.Who ever makes Play offs gets ROY 2.Give award to both
@carladavis1473
25 күн бұрын
2 is a cop out
How many times does it have to be said. Conservative double doubles is not a big deal. 11 is shocking if not embarrassingly low. Kevin Love had 53 and only made the all stars as an injury replacement. Sabonis just ended his streak of 61, did not make the all-star roster. The men’s record is 227. It really just dosent matter. It’s very much the same as all the ‘fastest to x’ records Clark has, they really don’t mean much. It’s just fun tidbit statical info. McNutt will never select Clark over Reese, she has an animus against her, an irrational one at that. One that you keep suggesting doesn’t exist. How in the hell does it make sense to select Reese because the Sky is 1/2 game ahead of the Fever? After selecting Reese 7th, and taking the 3rd selection they have a worse w/l than last year.
ROTY spells Troy
CC could fly around the court and make 10 points on each posesión, and monica mcnutt breanna stewart diana taurasi, aja wilson, lloid, none will admit that CC is the best they hate her..forgot elle duncan and carolyn peck excuse my spelling I am driving..so writing quick at the light..they rather have no viewership, no sponsors , no attendance , no attention like in the past 28 years, before having CC win any award they dont even want her in the league and i dont think is racism or any other form of discrimination its just that she is really good and likable professional well spoken, marketable most things they are not..they rather have the W be the dump in the hood it always has been envious jealous they try to hide it but they cant too strong of a feeling they cant even sleep thinking of ways to bring her down..
Clark isn't a top 5 in 3 pointers
Angel has been more consistent.
Missing her bunnies and getting her own rebounds right back to her.( Adds up quick) shooting percentage is 39 percent, pretty bad when all you shoot are bunnies
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
Those are contested bunnies. Sometimes when she's surrounded by 3 opposing players.Only like 13% of her rebounds are from her missed shots. I know, that upsets the false narrative. Besides, she's not the only one who gets to try to grab their miss. Really, anyone can. Why aren't they?
@user-kw5ot1wf1d
25 күн бұрын
@@timbabcock7645 bullshit
You don’t get points for not beating the defense that’s throwing at u
Based solely on character on and off the court AR is absolutely garbage. Unsportsmanlike conduct all around and is NOT a great representation and example of a professional athlete within the WNBA.
Didn’t the WNBA have to put a muzzle on that dawg. But much respect to Reese she so reminds me of Rodman in rebounds and a better scorer than Rodman. Yet Clark is all around ( minus defense) better player, draws double teams to advantage her team mates.
@sbrewt21
25 күн бұрын
Reeese draws double teams as well. Look at the lynx game.
@CodyCha
25 күн бұрын
CC is averaging more blocks per games than Reese. How is that even possible 😂
@CodyCha
25 күн бұрын
@@sbrewt21 Reese is the 3rd leading scorer on her own team with a lousy shooting percentage. Why would any team double team her
The "debate" never ends because people keep yakking about it....Robin. We get it. Controversy keeps your subscriber count in an upward trajectory. But it's also boring.
@TheRobinLundberg
25 күн бұрын
This is not controversial it’s a basketball debate
It's only a debate because of woke culture. Angel checks two important boxes: black and female. NcNutt only adopted that standings criteria because she knew when the schedule was released, that the Fever got screwed. Media wants to anoint Angel ROTY. It is obvious. And the Sky's opponents are helping Angel. The Lynx gifted her a double-double and most teams will do the same from now on. As for rebounds, few are realizing that the reason Angel gets so many rebounds is also because Cardoso gets the gravity. Cardoso gets double-teamed in the post, so Angel is free. Ask ANY one of these so-called "real fans" who the NBA all-time double-double record holder is, and I guarantee you they can't tell you without looking it up. No one cares. Caitlin is doing quite well considering she is battling other teams, her OWN team, her OWN coach and the refs...on a nightly basis. If she had capable teammates and were treated fairly, she'd be at LEAST Top 5 in every category.
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
Someone needs a towel.
This is like LeBron claiming he is the GOAT. Why are awards even being discussed? During the 80s in the NBA, you did not hear MVP, ROTY, and any other awards being discussed during the season. You simply just watched games and enjoyed the competitiveness. That's it. Awards are not important. HOWEVER, Clark is the MVP of the league. She may not be the best player, but Clark is certainly the most valuable. Clark has made the WNBA popular. Clark's games due more viewers than the NBA Finals that took place on the same day! WNBA opponents are coming after Clark. No one is going after Reese. Clark is also a role model off the court. Reese is a mental disaster off the court. Reese is a thug. Clark is something the WNBA has never seen before! It's similar to when Pistol Pete entered the NBA.
Anyone who thinks reese is on par with cc are casuals. Reese is an inferior player. Cc is a team player, reese is out for herself. I prefer team leaders and quality of play. Cc beats reese everyday.
70% of CC's shots are 3-pointers. By that number, she doesn't even have to be that good to be in the top 5 or 6 for total in the league. Curry does it with around 33% of his shots being 3's. Currently, she's like 3rd or 4th total, but has played two more games than many other shooters. Let's keep it in perspective. Everybody gets 40 games.
Angel reese is rookie of the year 😂
...........--------------************ ROOKIE OF THE YEAR " Caitlin Clark " ***************---------------...............
Caitlin gets taking out of games late because she is a liability on defense.
@michaeldwight3212
25 күн бұрын
Reese is a liability on defense all game. Caitlin has way more steals and blocks than Reese.
@1914punisher
25 күн бұрын
@michaeldwight3212 whose the one getting taking out of games in crunch time on defense
@AmourThink79
25 күн бұрын
@@michaeldwight3212 So, why are they taking her out at the end of the game for defensive purposes?
If it goes by play on that court Angel Reese is rookie of the year hands down 11 double double and counting.
David Duke McNutt ........ rookie racist of the year
Clark is the only player (not just rookies) with 15 p, 5 assist, and 5 rebounds, 2nd in league assists, 3rd in 3 points. Reese is great but only has rebounds. Oh, and Clark fills stadiums. There is no debate. The media is making it up.
@BrianLewis-ls5pt
25 күн бұрын
And 6 turnovers
@deandreray3500
25 күн бұрын
Turnovers
@denisebailey3226
25 күн бұрын
OVERHYPED! I expected more from someone you all promoted as the GOAT.
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
She's 3rd in assists per game, and she's tied for 3rd with Plum, who has played 3 less games. They all get 40 games. What does attendance have to do with court performance? Nothing obviously by the Fever record.
@basilfawlty241
25 күн бұрын
@@denisebailey3226 I agree, Reese is way overrated. She’s just one among many.
Reese is terrible. 😆
THE WNBA ROTY 2024 OPTIONS: 1. Caitlin Clark - OBVIOUS OBJECTIVE CLEAR CUT Selection 2. Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese - SAFE PEOPLE PLEASING Selection 3. Angel Reese - WOKE PANEL of WNBA SPORTSWRITER’S DEI Selection
Rickea Jackson is better than Clark let’s be real
❤CC22 > Angel fraud
Reese faces tougher competition at her position.
@kikobubblegum6045
24 күн бұрын
Right!! Literally the best in the league are at her position 😂
It’s exhausting
Stop making takes without facts
There is no debate, Caitlin wins hands down.
So Steph curry should’ve won mvp the last few years over jokic because he gets trapped At half court smh these aren’t basketball reasons it’s excuses for why she under performed
@TheRobinLundberg
25 күн бұрын
She hasn’t underperformed
Can we just see who will get it and just play ball. May the best win. I like them both.
Rookie of the year is not that serious but because Catlin Clark can't accomplish any real good Basketball numbers like Angel Rease, i understand how you people feel you wanna be able to give her something like anticipation Trophy.
You all act like you don’t have new information on this season. The Fever have 3 All Stars and they have a worse record than the Sky. Angel is doing more with less. And let’s not talk about defensive prowess. Angel is guarding the best players in the WNBA. Who is anyone on the Fever gaurding?? LOL Oh and what does Pat Riley say? No rebounds no rings BTW the top 5 players in the WNBA are power forwards so Angel is gaurding them every night.
@TheRobinLundberg
25 күн бұрын
The Fever didn’t add anyone else they didn’t already have, the Sky had two top picks and got Carter
@donaldtillman4351
25 күн бұрын
People get better usually much better from rookie to second season. In the NBA 3 All Stars to one is a massacre but not here vs Angel Reese because rebounds is equal to possession of the basketball. Last time I checked you can’t score or assist without possession
Reese can’t hit a layup and gets like 3 rebounds for one basket.
Monica McNutt will say Reese any day you ask, even before the season started. You know it, and everyone else knows it.
@MaymeIke
25 күн бұрын
Actually, about a week-two weeks ago, McNutt made an argument for Clark… Bring receipts next time you make claims…
@rorothefinesser9069
25 күн бұрын
@@MaymeIkethey won’t do that or even reply they say stuff like this to push narratives
@WORKSbaby
25 күн бұрын
Listen to what she said who ever is higher in the standings is who wins it
@timbabcock7645
25 күн бұрын
But she didn't. She had CC up to recently. I guess everyone doesn't know as much as they think they do.
Please do your research some your arguments are embarrassing
Bullshit
FEVER STARTERS C. Clark #1 pick A. Boston #1 pick K. Mitchell #2 pick Smith #2 pick Katie Lou #4 pick SKY STARTERS Cardoso #3 pick Carter #4 pick Reese #7 pick Allen #14 pick Mabrey #19 pick