Benzo withdrawal = Despair

In my practice, I've witnessed many of my patients struggle with various aspects of benzodiazepine tapering and withdrawal. It's an indescribably difficult experience. Not enough doctors recognize this issue, and far too many patients going through this feel alone in their experience.
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Ellen Vora, MD graduated from Columbia University medical school, received her B.A. from Yale University in English, and is a board-certified psychiatrist, acupuncturist, and yoga teacher.
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  • @countryboy5069
    @countryboy50695 жыл бұрын

    Discomfort my ass!! Stop sugar coating, it's complete hell!!

  • @analozada9475
    @analozada94755 жыл бұрын

    It’s not just “uncomfortable.” It’s hell! It causes Gaba a receptors down regulation, hence causes dangerous physical symptoms. High HR/BP, shakes, fever, burning sensation, chest pain, severe panic attacks, seizures, Akathisia, insomnia, terror, panic, agoraphobia, dp, dr, etc. Is not just “uncomfortable”, it is the literal definition of hell. I hoped you were more well versed than most psychiatrists, specially as a holistic one. Have you treated, or helped a patient taper and switch to natural medications to help with the withdrawals?

  • @ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936

    @ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blairsterling6141 Indeed.

  • @ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936

    @ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry it doesn't seem that I was emphatic enough. What you're saying is exactly the point I was attempting to make with this video. It's truly terrible. I have had some patients find benefit with kava kava and hemp oil. It's important to have someone guiding the process. most helpful has been a gradual taper over many months supported by nutrition, meditation and detox.

  • @_blew_a_fuse_7372

    @_blew_a_fuse_7372

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no salvation but time w this paradox

  • @teresaj7796

    @teresaj7796

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936 can I get you to help me

  • @hey956

    @hey956

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget benzos are also a mast cell stabilizer so it f's all those up too.

  • @a.u.4447
    @a.u.4447 Жыл бұрын

    Veteran here, from prescribed benzos, taken as prescribed. Learned what this doc is saying from 7 years of benzo hell and still not recovered. The description this doctor gives doesn't give a drop in the bucket of the suffering benzo wd causes. Destroyed my life.

  • @THXx1138
    @THXx11385 жыл бұрын

    I rocked for 3 hours in my bed this morning - fighting to get through the mental torment. It is horrific. I am so very grateful that this thing ebbs and flows now. From June 2016 until March 2018 I was in constant torture. The only reason I am still here is due to the fear of death. 2018 I have improved and looking to continue improving generally in 2019. Love you all.

  • @MrMoejoe555

    @MrMoejoe555

    5 жыл бұрын

    THX 1138 how did you stay sane. My thoughts of suicide are constant and convincing.

  • @meschoooter6027

    @meschoooter6027

    2 жыл бұрын

    I sought help for my complete withdrawal from meds at Beyond Meds. She said it takes at least two years to get them out of your system. Be patient. Get your blood sugar checked. Eat right, take a walk and start a hobby or take a class. Go to church services and make some new friends. Help yourself. It is imperative to act normal so you can be normal. I also went to NA meetings. That was helpful, too.

  • @meschoooter6027

    @meschoooter6027

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrMoejoe555 They will go away if you consistently fight them with the help of your higher power. Let yourself grieve. Stupid counselors, LMFT's and LCSW's, always gave me weird diagnoses. They tried to box me in with their so-called 'knowledge'. They NEVER caught grief!!! I've suffered for years by their stupidity. It's the way they are taught. They are idiots and the system is harmful.

  • @streamscreen
    @streamscreen3 жыл бұрын

    Nice you have some good understanding of benzodiazepine withdrawal!I was on klonopin for 20 years for anxiety/once I’ve been off for over 12 years now.I weaned myself for over 9 months through water titration.The whole process is agonizing and I still have severe sensitivity to stress and noises.Hopefully one day the medical and addiction community will learn and know how to treat this,and a 28 day inpatient detox is the worst thing you could do to a person.Slow very slow taper is the best way for most!Thanks for the video,and the blessing you are for other’s!!

  • @sangeetalambh6389

    @sangeetalambh6389

    3 жыл бұрын

    DaveB did u feel DpDR and stomach cramps in ur withdrawal please ans I m 115 days sober

  • @streamscreen

    @streamscreen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sangeetalambh6389 Hi yes I had all of the symptoms that you talked about.With time they get better and will lessen for you.I know it’s a hard road,but don’t give up hope you will definitely improve. Take care!

  • @sangeetalambh6389

    @sangeetalambh6389

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@streamscreen did u feel empty shell sym please ans my frd

  • @katrinamenzies9398

    @katrinamenzies9398

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sangeetalambh6389 💜

  • @lisamarie8700
    @lisamarie87006 ай бұрын

    I had no feelings of empathy or sadness. I could not cry. Didn't feel comfortable in my own head at all! Anyone have that happen?! Took a year to feel normal again.

  • @martinevanwinkelen

    @martinevanwinkelen

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @LEGENDofBEANY
    @LEGENDofBEANY5 жыл бұрын

    7.5 months off a cold turkey WD. Most horrific journey. I really can’t explain what I’ve been through and I’m not close to being out of the woods yet. Ugh. Brutal.

  • @tygreen8831

    @tygreen8831

    5 жыл бұрын

    How long was you taking benzos that poison??

  • @tygreen8831

    @tygreen8831

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Scott Laux how long was you on benzos?

  • @LEGENDofBEANY

    @LEGENDofBEANY

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ty green 3 years consecutively. Tried flumazenil treatment twice.

  • @tygreen8831

    @tygreen8831

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LEGENDofBEANY thanks for the response. Did the flumazenil treatment work?

  • @analozada9475

    @analozada9475

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been off Ativan for over two months now (I tapered slowly) and still going through hell. And I only took it for less than a month for severe panic attacks and reached tolerance super fast. What has been done to us is a crime.

  • @glynhayes5930
    @glynhayes59302 жыл бұрын

    I’m in paws from SSRI’s.. I think the worst thing is we don’t have a voice. Soooo many people suffering unnecessarily, fighting for their lives without any offering of support. Not a single societal service even acknowledges our suffering is genuine. It makes for one lonely, scary ride. Its an experience which will turn even the most kind hearted and gentle person bitter.

  • @sangeetalambh6389

    @sangeetalambh6389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glyn Hayes how r u now frd

  • @stardustring

    @stardustring

    6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @mickmcsherry5916
    @mickmcsherry59162 жыл бұрын

    Here’s an idea: no m.d., or other medical professional with an Rx pad, may prescribe a benzo unless, and until they go on said benzo for at least six months, and then stop. This should be the case for all psych meds these so-called health care professionals prescribe. That would turn this whole shit show called psychiatry on its head.

  • @smartiegamer
    @smartiegamer5 жыл бұрын

    Yes intense discomfort and despair with seemingly no end in sight! It's enough to make even the most pragmatic, sayne, level headed individual feel like their losing their mind, body and SOUL. Not even a whisper of a respite or window in quite some time😂😥😷🤕😨😢

  • @meschoooter6027

    @meschoooter6027

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who wouldn't be sad, tired, lost and lonely in this culture?? As the song says, "You've gotta serve somebody." Yada. It's hard to change our minds and our habits but it can be done. We can do it. Reach out. Find old friends. Just do some simple fun stuff. Simplicity has to be enough.

  • @TheBenzoHouse
    @TheBenzoHouse5 жыл бұрын

    Ativan slowly, tapering 8 months the wd is ridiculous no matter what! Solution stop prescribing them!!!

  • @ellenvora5057

    @ellenvora5057

    5 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more... Trying to do my part to stop the tidal wave.

  • @katrinamenzies9398

    @katrinamenzies9398

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep Ativan destroyed my life

  • @pebbles92able

    @pebbles92able

    10 ай бұрын

    Wish they would prescribe hydroxyzine instead

  • @sk8n854

    @sk8n854

    Ай бұрын

    Stop prescribing them to new patients. Not people who have already been on them. They're already panicking and rapidly tapering people off of them. The last thing we need is millions of people ripped off of benzos way too fast. I mean that totally went great with opiates didn't it? And opiate withdrawal is nothing in comparison.

  • @sk8n854

    @sk8n854

    Ай бұрын

    Stop prescribing them to people for minor issues like anxiety. They still have uses. And to the people wanting to ban them. Yeah let's just rip millions of people off of their benzo and throw them into CT benzo withdrawal and likely give them protracted withdrawal. Genius. We all know how well this has gone with opioids when they panicked and started ripping everyone off of them. Things got much better, didn't they?

  • @BrandonBreaksRecords
    @BrandonBreaksRecords5 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I’ve been through this and it’s brutal. It’s definitely tough but the situation is winnable.

  • @_blew_a_fuse_7372

    @_blew_a_fuse_7372

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah right winnable when a decade from ?

  • @BrandonBreaksRecords

    @BrandonBreaksRecords

    3 жыл бұрын

    _BLeW_ A_FuSe_ for me, it was.

  • @_blew_a_fuse_7372

    @_blew_a_fuse_7372

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrandonBreaksRecords what a joke !!

  • @sangeetalambh6389

    @sangeetalambh6389

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BrandonBreaksRecords how r u now

  • @BrandonBreaksRecords

    @BrandonBreaksRecords

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sangeetalambh6389 I’m doing much better. Thank you for asking. I hope that you are doing well. ✌️

  • @thomasallen4340
    @thomasallen4340 Жыл бұрын

    And this is why you don't treat panic with benzos.

  • @eirini98
    @eirini98Ай бұрын

    Thanks for this. Vital information!

  • @meschoooter6027
    @meschoooter60272 жыл бұрын

    People unkindly spout, "He's not on his meds!" as if they were some magical formula. Of course he's acting nutty; he's in withdrawal !!!!! Be patient, be kind, be helpful. Stop condemning. Help him thru it. Be encouraging.

  • @snafu22
    @snafu225 жыл бұрын

    You should make contact with Baylissa, if you haven’t done so already, she is the go to person in the psych drug withdrawal community. She has many clients that need help with tapering and a knowledgeable MD on psych drugs effects and withdrawal could be of assistance to her and them.

  • @johnlandis5889
    @johnlandis58892 жыл бұрын

    Would taking Bipolar meds and xanax give you low dopamine levels? I take celexa and Abilify

  • @_blew_a_fuse_7372
    @_blew_a_fuse_73723 жыл бұрын

    It's hell on earth for months to years shit gives ya ptsd why isent this drug banned ?

  • @katrinamenzies9398

    @katrinamenzies9398

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fuck Big Pharma ruined my life

  • @garethwinch2347

    @garethwinch2347

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some. People love benzos

  • @thorsteinheinz4719
    @thorsteinheinz4719 Жыл бұрын

    in what mg of Klonopin did you jump off?I'm on 4 months off 0.5 mg Klonopin and I start tapering now I cut off 50% and in 4 weeks I can feel the withrawal effect but not as bad some mood disturbance and sleepless night but it's manageable...after 4 to 6 weeks I will step down again my dose pls,! Pray 🙏 for me bro and sis...I love you all💖

  • @yes55504
    @yes555044 жыл бұрын

    I have a utter hatred for your profession. How can pyschs prescribe this absolute poison?! Don't they know what the hell they are doing to people?!

  • @ellenvora5057

    @ellenvora5057

    4 жыл бұрын

    I often wonder this myself

  • @yes55504

    @yes55504

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ellenvora5057 I'm sorry of I came off rude.

  • @katrinamenzies9398

    @katrinamenzies9398

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes psychiatrist prescribed Ativan too me he destroyed my life

  • @cduby1424
    @cduby14244 жыл бұрын

    Klonopin withdrawl made me develop o.c.d. mixed with all the other symptoms, it definitely was the withdrawl I never had it before, it has been the worst thing ever as far as turning insane and thinking you are gonna be that way from then on.

  • @ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936

    @ellenvoramd-holisticpsychi5936

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are certainly not alone in having that experience. I feel for you. There are ways to heal. I hope that my resources can help you piece things back together.

  • @shanebuczek4753

    @shanebuczek4753

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you ever recover ?

  • @cduby1424

    @cduby1424

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I got Lyme disease and had to take an antibiotic, the antibiotic cefuroxine messed me up real bad, brought me back to when I first was messed up crying, confushion, absolute hell, now being 5 weeks, I can't do anything not even a vitamin, for a whole month I was bad, at the pace its going hopefully by 6 months things are back to my normal hell. I have different stages, first physical sick tired, second stage, dementia intrusive thoughts crying can't do simple things severe depression, then the next stage I feel better but the o.c.d. and intrusive memories bug me. Then it all starts getting better, that's where I was until cefuroxine time, I kept taking it even though I got worst and worst Every time I took it, I just wanted to get rid of the lyme.

  • @Natalie82170

    @Natalie82170

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cduby1424 How are you now with the Lyme and benzo withdrawal. It could be that the benzos were covering up some Lyme symptoms, OCD being one of them. And of course you know that Lyme symptoms get worse at first when treating.

  • @cduby1424

    @cduby1424

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Natalie82170 no I'm not any better, my wife is almost at the point of leaving me. Today I just had to follow her around like a 6 yr old. My wife thinks I should just go to the doctor and do what may. I'm still hanging in there for a little longer cause I did have some good days. I've been coming off caffeine so I think that is what made me bad today like I was. I have to go for prostate test so I'm going hold on for a little longer. I'm hoping someday I have some sort of good news. Maybe a lot of preying will help. But thanks for asking.

  • @greyghost1962
    @greyghost19622 жыл бұрын

    Just started Klonopin after months and months of debilitating panic attacks, in ER 3 times, was hoping I was gonna die. Klonopin has literally saved my life. I'm not sure what my future is im very scared have been on 14 differnt SSRI/ SNRI and anti psychotics over the past 15 years, they dont seem to work anymore. On Celexa and Seroquel past 2 months has been living hell, lost 35 pounds, waves of panic all day long. People love to say how horrible Benzo is but please tell me what else will work. Im afraid this is as best as technology has to offer at this time?

  • @tracymassimo2114

    @tracymassimo2114

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever considered that all the different medications over the years is what's causing the issue. Sounds like you are experiencing tolerance withdrawal and or interdose withdrawal.

  • @greyghost1962

    @greyghost1962

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tracymassimo2114 Very possible, I was on Gabapentin with other things for about a year when this last massive attack started, it lasted for 2 months. Now taking celexa,seroquel and klonopin. Feeling much better after over 2 months of torture. Most of it is very confusing and frustrating, Ive had times i was taking nothing and had massive attack, just been praying and trusting not sure what else to do.

  • @tracymassimo2114

    @tracymassimo2114

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greyghost1962 Unfortunately I've heard your story many times. most doctors and/or patients are not aware of it. If I had to guess changing off and on a different psychiatric drugs can cause extreme anxiety and a host of other symptoms. No one realizes it's the medication and just give you more medications to cover it up. You may want to consider googling polydrugged, interdose withdrawal, tolerance withdrawal. Also there are many support groups on Facebook that that are experiencing what you are.

  • @tracymassimo2114

    @tracymassimo2114

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also The Times that you were taking nothing you had entered withdrawal. Your brain had become dependent on Medication and when you come off you experience side Effects.

  • @greyghost1962

    @greyghost1962

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tracymassimo2114 Ill look those up, appreciate it! I kinda wondered about that, gonna try and just stay on this course this year, avoid jumping around, thanks!

  • @thomasrehder3422
    @thomasrehder34223 жыл бұрын

    You dont no shit about how bad benzo withdrawl is....smile all you want and it b.s

  • @CBT5777
    @CBT577711 ай бұрын

    Yet doctors keep treating panic and anxiety disorders with this poison.

  • @botramduuze7188
    @botramduuze71885 жыл бұрын