"So let's say, hypothetically, there was a homeless person, we would say, that person is poor. But then imagine, hypothetically, that same homeless person tripped over a rock, that also happened to be a 200 carat diamond, then we would say, that person is rich. So that's why, logically speaking, the concepts of rich and poor do not exist." - Benny Shabibo

@glumreaper8885

2 жыл бұрын

Man I got a real hardon when Benny Boy explained that all you need to do to become rich is own land and get lucky. He almost let the secret formula escape.

@MaestroKatProductions

2 жыл бұрын

Bin "the term rich is vague" Sharpie

@HappyChelsea8

2 жыл бұрын

What I’m sayin

@Katrulzin

2 жыл бұрын

You can apply this concept of luck towards everything in life because life is chaotic with constant changes and nothing guaranteed, but that doesn't mean we have to drop definitions like rich and poor that are valid for a finite moment in time as no one has a crystal ball. Ben is an idiot

@coolbeans21

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think there are enough “hypothetically”s in this quote

“Rich people aren’t rich because sometimes they can become poor at a later date” real big-brain hours thanks Ben

@wrldtrvlrable

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah so it's fun to say whatever bull$hit narrative helps you sleep at night right, Ben and your donators? Let gooofff, ugh.

@JohnDoe-pm9ip

2 жыл бұрын

One can only dream.

@nicolarobatto7469

2 жыл бұрын

actually you aren't alive because you will die at a later date these are the kinds of facts and logic i love shabibo for

@RedScareClair

2 жыл бұрын

This is the literal argument for why they work so hard to protect their wealth

@nob2243

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and if they DO become poorer through some circumstance, we wouldn't tax them as much anymore, because it wouldn't make sense to tax someone on income or wealth they no longer have. But Ben acts like he's too stupid to understand that and pretends it's not the case.

By bens logic. No one is rich because inflation could destroy the value of the dollar.

@glumreaper8885

2 жыл бұрын

A debate lord's wet dream argument: "Well you see, the way you frame your argument is all relative to a specific set of circumstances that in very select cases in history can be very fickle."

@the_exegete

2 жыл бұрын

Eventually all men must die, and once you're dead you can't own anything, therefore ipso facto quod erat demonstrandum nobody can possibly be rich, except for poor people who clearly have too much money.

@ngotemna8875

2 жыл бұрын

@@glumreaper8885 I love how hasan singlehandedly made "being able to defend your position" into sth that is considered bad.

@nara6540

2 жыл бұрын

@@ngotemna8875 If you think that is an actual defense, you are the very issue.

@RedScareClair

2 жыл бұрын

Does that mean if you're poor you're officially destitute when inflation comes?

Ben, "For example, Richie Rich was allegedly the richest kid in America according to the liberal media, but he didn't have any friends, so was he really rich? How can he be rich if he doesn't have friends? Just because he has unlimited money?"

@CharlieApples

2 жыл бұрын

I fucking lol’d

I love these "debunking" videos that never debunk anything. For example, Ben claims they pay 40% of those taxes, then doesn't bring up what percentage of the country's revenue they own, I wonder why.

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

It's federal income taxes, most workers don't make enough to pay that and poor people pay other taxes(state, sales, etc.).

@lich109

2 жыл бұрын

@@scifirealism5943 Yes, and like I said Ben is trying to hide just how much the rich own, just look at that graph he cut off.

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

@@lich109 yep. I call it selection bias. Also conservatives tend to believe in survivorship bias more than even God.

@thapojodojo

2 жыл бұрын

Most likely because they write his paychecks

@JC-bs5pd

2 жыл бұрын

@@scifirealism5943 federal income tax is the worst for the middle class, which most people are in and will never rise above. They don’t make enough and they aren’t poor enough.

"HOW COULD WE TAX THEM BASED ON MONEY THEY DONT HAVE?" Idk chief maybe the same way you let them take out loans based on that money they dont have?

@ngotemna8875

2 жыл бұрын

It's also additionally stupid because poor people get "taxed" on money they don't have, too. Like, my insurance company wanted to know how much I make a month so they can calculate my fees. I make roughly 200€ a month and they deadass told me that the lowest income they can use for calculations is 1.200€. They *act* like I make 1000€ more than I actually do. Why? F you, that's why

@ironman85000

2 жыл бұрын

BINGO BANGO BONGO

@leoisabell9797

Жыл бұрын

@@ironman85000 you don’t wanna leave the Congo?

@madmattlikesgreen

Жыл бұрын

@@ngotemna8875 genuine question, how do you only make 200 a month?

@ngotemna8875

Жыл бұрын

@@madmattlikesgreen Student and part-time job

C'mon man, Ben's right - everyone knows that all the billionaires in the world made their money through their 250k salaries, and they worked hard all those 4000 years to achieve that wealth!

@axios7603

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I call bullshit on that , people who worship him get not bitches and brainwashed

@matthewcowles6031

Жыл бұрын

That explains the need for adrenochrome

I'm sick and tired of these poors making life harder for billionaires.

@adamconover8950

2 жыл бұрын

I'm only on welfare to make them angry

@jerseysilva1831

2 жыл бұрын

im sick and tired of being sick and tired

@AzafTazarden

2 жыл бұрын

They could be trilionaires if it wasn't for these poors demanding wages

@ngotemna8875

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerseysilva1831 Mood lmao

@adamconover8950

2 жыл бұрын

@@AzafTazarden can't say I don't love the imagery of the worlds billionaires being absolutely dirt-poor on Mars and then they have to spend the rest of their lives wishing they could sue a whistleblower or pay to r a child

I love that Ben Shabussy cares so much about us working class slobs, that despite being incredibly wealthy himself he decides to drop this knowledge bomb on us poors. Truly he’s looking out for our class.

@iandragooo

2 жыл бұрын

Ben Shabingo truly is the Proletariat hero of our generation

@Katrulzin

2 жыл бұрын

Astounding lol

@letsboogiewoogie719

2 жыл бұрын

not the shabussy

@granudisimo

2 жыл бұрын

@@letsboogiewoogie719 "Dry ass Boybussy, make your pushing game strong". Pushing neoliberal propaganda of course, not his pelvis, I mean, if the woman wants to get pregnant, she has to do all the work, under his eye.

@temtem8110

2 жыл бұрын

“Shabussy” just ended my whole life, thank you

Well if the billionaires were paying my bills, I might be spewing smack for them too.

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

Same.

@dantheman669

2 жыл бұрын

What smack? Accurate information?

@jacobballance117

2 жыл бұрын

@@dantheman669 what accurate information

@dantheman669

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobballance117 thank you.

@dcluvspie5777

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobballance117 Sargon fan this guys got one braincell to breathe and one to eat that's about it...

I like how Ben's comment about how the top 1% pays 40% of the taxes is meant to make that sound more than fair, but ignores how the math would work out. If the top 1% has more money than all of the middle class combined you'd expect them to pay at least 50%. If the median income in the US is about 40k and the top 1% makes over 600k then the top 1% should be paying at least 62-75% if the median of the top 1% was only 600k. Realistically the very richest people should collectively be covering more than 75% of the total taxes if they were paying their fair share.

@adamconover8950

2 жыл бұрын

Elon could've paid $30B in one day during the pandemic and still would've seen his net worth increase by $2.7B. if we held him accountable for the wealth disparity in his company, he'd stop tweeting all the time

@tatiana4050

2 жыл бұрын

And that's not including minimum taxable income, which would be lets say 25% for median, but also 90% for some and for over 600k it would be like 2%.

Ben is like the real life Ohare air guy from the lorax

@toeman_dungfart1855

2 жыл бұрын

Even is the same height

@sir-reynauld-the-kleptomaniac

2 жыл бұрын

Dude looks at the working class trying to unionize or gays and be like: LET IT DIE, LET IT DIE, LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND- COME ON GUYS WHOS WITH ME, HAH?

@SevenHunnid

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a young 21 year old Mexican tryna get out the wicked Hood by 25 😂i smoke weed on my KZread channel and i also did a burger king Mukbang inside target lol

@maylawson6520

2 жыл бұрын

@@SevenHunnid i thought you were trying to make it out by 30 last time i saw you, and now its 25? i love that for you king, take my subscription, and get ur ass out the hood hahaha ❤️

@Soupcup8993

2 жыл бұрын

@@SevenHunnid thats very nice

Love how Ben uses Monty Python and the Holy Grail as an example of wealth accumuiation, the same movie that also features a scene that lampoons the ruling class in feudal and capitalist societies by making some of the peasents aware of their own economic status by them announcing they're anarcho-syndicalists which is met with King Arthur attacking them

@jmc4975

2 жыл бұрын

"Help! I'm being oppressed!" Great movie

@1193joao

2 жыл бұрын

@@dootu suuuuure... i guess

@gregoryferber3231

2 жыл бұрын

He is Dennis, 37 year old filth farmer. He does take turn as an executive officer for the week

@DrTimeSCPPsych

Жыл бұрын

@@jmc4975 "repressed" is what be said acrually because arthur was physically accosting him as a means of silencing him.

@jmc4975

Жыл бұрын

@@DrTimeSCPPsych Makes sense, I just got the word wrong

The dude with the yacht owns a percentage of the Fortune 500 company I am forced to work for because of monopolies and tax policies that only work for the rich. He controls the guy who runs the company that makes me work nineteen days straight to create value I don't own. He doesn't need a yacht. A yacht is not a necessary component to human survival. These people are in the process of monopolizing the concept of owning property. You will be forced to rent your living space, lease your car, and pay out the ass for basic necessities.

@lordbalzamore7692

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're right and that's the terrifying world the billionaires are aiming for, but at the same time I'm conflicted because a rent based economy is closer to more ethical, low waste capitalism and communalised goods - like theoretically this could be a late stage of capitalism laying the transitionary groundworks for socialism. Sounds horrible but maybe it's needed to shake loose the greedy notion of 'mine' that capitalism has been enforcing for centuries.

@Moonmi747

2 жыл бұрын

What you said is absolutely true. But the general public is just hopelessly dumb, licking the boots of the people that is squeezing them dry, which is precisely the reason why reality is the way it is right now.

@KHwut

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordbalzamore7692 dude, no

@eljoel89

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordbalzamore7692 I should be able to own my personal home. I should be either own a means of personal transportation or have access to public transit. My taxes should pay for my healthcare and retirement. Utilities should be owned by the citizens at large and regulated. Landlords should be illegal. If you aren't willing to sell, the government should be able to eminent domain any private properties you purchased for profit because you are creating homelessness through artificial scarcity. 401ks, the privatization of your retirement, should be turned into a federal pension.

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

@@eljoel89 I agree!

“My bosses aren’t bad people, why yes they do pay me to say that about them it’s their money they can spend it how they want!” How do people like him think they are antiestablishment when they defend billionaires?

@snoopy_peanuts_77

2 жыл бұрын

the real question is why do his fans?

@AzafTazarden

2 жыл бұрын

They don't think that, they know they're not antiestabilishment. They are literally paid to lie.

@dustinjoeypace

2 жыл бұрын

Because there are a staggering number of extremely unintelligent and mentally sedated people that also have access to the internet. They don’t have to think, because small fast talky man does it for them.

@beckymcdonald9529

2 жыл бұрын

Severe brain rot brought on by chronic cognitive dissonance, or chronic ignorance

@j0j0dartiste21

2 жыл бұрын

Because the billionaires they defend aren't changing their logos toa rainbow for a month, obviously

Ben had to think long and hard to realise that you don't always remain rich your entire life, and you are no longer rich if you lose all your money. Good on you Ben, the "cool kid's philosopher".

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

2 жыл бұрын

Wait... if I lose my money... I'm then... poor? Ben is a genius! Lol jk. Ben is pathetic and hates himself as he rightfully should.

@sunnyxdmc2283

2 жыл бұрын

well ye no shit u don’t but if ur smart about it then u will have money. I guess people don’t like doing the math so they rely on the government. it is almost like promoting good education by using money is bad. Y’all are mad that u did not put in the work and now you want to blame the world.My immigrant parents are very smart in math and they lived a good life making 100k an year each because when they were in school they worked hard.if you don’t work hard people will pass you (this is the system it is about survival of the fittest)

@ortah2616

2 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyxdmc2283 someone needs to call this kid's parents

@dustinjoeypace

2 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyxdmc2283 Hey bud, literally millions of people “do the work” and die poor anyway. Your thinking muscle is broken I think.

@granudisimo

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustinjoeypace They work hard, but not smart. By which I mean they weren't born privileged enough to afford the proper boots with the gravity defying straps (if your father is too dumb to not own a share on an African emerald mine, that's a you problem, rich people are just better), but that won't stop conservatives for blaming poor people for everything bad in their lives, because to these psychopaths, society doesn't exist (see Margaret Thatcher's defining society for an extra dose of existential horror cringe)

I was talking to somebody at work about this concept and they were like “yeah, it makes sense for the likes of Bezos and Musk, but it would be unfair on the lower tier billionaires. Like the ones who only have 1 billion for example”. It’s crazy to me how they could feel bad about someone having to pay taxes, because they “only” having 1 billion lol

@xanxula8927

2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine the destitute reality of being taxed down to 999 million? How would you survive?

@ItZoTom

2 жыл бұрын

@@xanxula8927 They’d be lining up at the food banks. So sad :(

Bruh, the solution is “stop being poor”. I’ve done it, it worked out for me.

@pastycayk1998

2 жыл бұрын

Your genies is frightening. 🧠

I just roll my eyes every time someone tries to defend the rich like dude let them pay for their defenders. It’s not like their already lobbying for their interests.🙄

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

It's called survivorship bias. Ben supports the idea the rich can succeed with no help and deserve unlimited financial support. Since anyone can be rich right?

@sir-reynauld-the-kleptomaniac

2 жыл бұрын

@@scifirealism5943 never heard that phrase before, but very interesting…

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

@@sir-reynauld-the-kleptomaniac yes. It's only acknowledging good or optimal outcomes(ignoring all bad ones).

@jackwolowacz9382

2 жыл бұрын

@@scifirealism5943 Well, survivorship bias is less ignoring the bad outcomes, and more that the bad outcomes are somehow hidden. It absolutely applies here, because the rich have their stories broadcasted. Noone cares about the poor guy who stayed poor. Therefore, you see the stories of the person who made billions with an incredible invention or the genius stock market play, but you never hear the millions of people working their asses off at jobs that are underpaid and overworked.

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackwolowacz9382 yes. That's exactly my point.

"So let's say, hypothetically..." Then precedes to go on a 10 minute rant then end the tirade as if he hadn't made it a hypothetical, and hopes no one will remember.

"Since we can't take money with us, and we all die, we all lose our money, and so therefore we are all poor, eventually." - Ben Shapiro (Say it quickly in your best Shapiro voice)

I wonder where those billionaires got their money from 🤔 They must've worked 100,000 harder than any of their workers

@ProjectileGrommet

2 жыл бұрын

I love watching people try to explain how their desk job is more valuable the the physical labor their jobs couldn’t live without Like watching a slug chug salt water

@uglyhippos

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProjectileGrommetAgreed. I am currently working in a nice office job now so I can safely say that working minimum wage was way harder and the people who work those jobs aren't lazy. Those workers usually have 2 jobs just to make a living and even then its pay check to pay check.

Who TF let Ben into Harvard? Wish I had rich parents who forced me to play the violin.

they pay him money and give him a platform to sound smart on with 0 effort and he's a lost ghoul so there ya have it

@tobiasa9071

2 жыл бұрын

I believe they pay him to read a script or have ridiculous takes. Defending the rich is like not siding with Robin Hood in the Robin Hood tales. He stole back from the rich, What the rich stole from the poor via taxes with 0 benefit to the poor (kinda like it is now in America)

@kayjay9104

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better, brother or sister.

Whenever y’all meet a super religious Christian who “loves the free market” just tell them Matthew 19:23

@ivanaldaz9811

2 жыл бұрын

Ben Shabibo would say hes jewish and he doesnt go by the New Testament.

@xh3NNIN9x

2 жыл бұрын

MLK 13:12 is also a good verse

@ToruKun1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivanaldaz9811 Beebo Shabeebo says he's an Orthodox Jew but his beliefs align completely with fundamentalist Christianity. For instance, he's anti-abortion even though all Jewish sects, even the most conservative ones, say abortion is totally poggers.

@RiceBiomedicine

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToruKun1 I don't know if they're his core beliefs as much as that's just him holding his finger to the evangelical Christian winds. He needs to keep that Middle America cash flowing by not appearing too "exotic."

@ngotemna8875

2 жыл бұрын

@@RiceBiomedicine There's a reason his Yamaka is always the same colour as his hair

Yes Ben, the price of land goes up and down. Especially when climate change comes and floods the entire place. But don't worry, you can always sell it and move away, right?

Some Republicans will say shit like this and, without a hint of irony, act like that they're these ambassadors of America's working class in the same breath.

@abnerruiz4011

2 жыл бұрын

Word for word. I see friends and my family fall for it and I’m like the buddies that donate to your republican candidates just got way more richer due to the changes that they bought(donated) for and what about your wallets? Y’all are still working minimum wage. Even a tax break is not gonna bring y’all up a tax bracket and what a republican will do for the majority is not even close to the benefits the rich get from the govt.

@angelikaskoroszyn8495

2 жыл бұрын

They stil believe in the American Dream. They think they'll be rich soon so they have to protect their "own" people

@TheZombiemofo

2 жыл бұрын

@@abnerruiz4011 It's that Republican belief that they're a future billionaire just waiting to come into their fortune. People seem to have either conveniently forgotten or have no clue that the "Golden Age" of capitalism and the American Dream likely died by the 1960s and now the most likely way someone is going to get rich is to be born or married into it.

I’ll never get why half the country cheers for 20 people to take their money.

Hearing Ben Shapiro's voice made me a virgin again. 🤦‍♂️

someone tell ben that just because money gets "spent" on social services here, that doesnt mean it reaches those its meant to help in even 50% of cases. there are tons of things that conservatives do to bog down and create inefficiency in social services on purpose so they can point at it and say "see thats a waste" but never mention that it was their own actions that made the wasteful parts.. like doctors overcharging medicaid patients and giving them inadequate care still so they can completely screw the poor over. then treat people who have private insurance like royalty while the private insurance company refuses to pay for half the stuff they are supposed to.. like raising prices on food/rent/cost of living in general every time money gets added to the amount that poor people are allowed to get for food assistance. they use the private sector to nullify all the help poor folks get and then turn around and blame inefficiency and fraud within the system instead of saying "yeah i go out of my way to make sure nothing actually gets to help poor people"

@adamconover8950

2 жыл бұрын

It would be gross if the profit percentage stayed the same, but it expands every time. Even UK rails, during the pandemic, inflated the value of their own services to increase profits while blaming the strikers for "not caring about the soldiers what gave us these freedoms to get on the chube"

Dude people like Ben are gross, I am unemployed right now and still had to pay more in taxes this year than the people he's defending

@ProjectileGrommet

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so expensive being poor

@wrldtrvlrable

2 жыл бұрын

Me too bruh, it's sick. I made 6,000usd in 2020 and 22,000usd, both gross in years 2020 and 2021 respectfully. I'm a TEACHER. Yeah.

@wrldtrvlrable

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProjectileGrommet yeah exactly. Let's actually do the math. So is he saying income earners who made $10,000usd last year, with a 500% income increase made $50,000, which is a "livable lazy wage" according to Joe Rogain. Meanwhile, those who made $80,000 would still make $80,000 which is hardly enough to live on? I'm currently unemployed because I was laid off, due to no fault of my own. I'm a teacher who made 22,000usd gross last year, so somehow I magically made 500% times that? UM, fyi I DID NOT. Now I'm laid off, can't pay rent or feed myself or my mom who has cancer, but yeah... rich people are doing their part. Can someone please explain this country to me??? I'm lost.

@ProjectileGrommet

2 жыл бұрын

@@wrldtrvlrable I love that there are more common sense leftists in the chat than those foolish enough to not see through his exclusionary and contradictory belief system

@milesmalmquist

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand what you ppl are talking about maybe you can explain. I made 12,000 and i didn’t have to pay that much in taxes.

Imagine blaming the Dems for inflation and then not being for raising taxes, one of the best ways to curb inflation.

@matimi0sbackflip455

2 жыл бұрын

Because raising taxes isn’t gonna fix the 8% monthly inflation

@jessetreadway5249

2 жыл бұрын

@@matimi0sbackflip455 no but eating the rich will. 🤷

@124085

2 жыл бұрын

Do taxes actually curb inflation? I mean it makes sense in theory since it's removing money from circulation

@jessetreadway5249

2 жыл бұрын

@@124085 they do in a theoretical democracy. Capitalism, or the economic system that prioritizes profit over life and liberty, ruins any chance for humanity to reach any theoretical best outcome.

@matimi0sbackflip455

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessetreadway5249 yea that actually never worked in history. Those who ate the rich became fat themselves and starved millions of Ukrainians 😂

"Younger people earn less. As you move into middle age..." Hasan sitting here...like "I guess early 30s is middle aged now".

Prices of land rises and falls. When it falls I hope someone mentions it to me, I've been saving for a small parcel for over a decade. Each year it rises just enough that its eternally out of reach. Land is the only thing that literally never falls in value. That's why the billionaires are cashing out of thier shares and buying ALL of the land.

@wells9382

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of stories of the rich buying up massive farms, such as Bill Gates in Idaho

I just want Ben Shapiro to Disappear-O!!!

Ben Shapiro is a mean-spirited dolt's idea of a smart man.

@adamconover8950

2 жыл бұрын

he represented himself perfectly when he used his Harvard Law degree to logic trap college freshmen who may be passionate about socioeconomic issues, but not fucking post-grad and paid to be uncharitable. fools love bullying and a snide know-it-all is always bullying everyone.

The last 2 minutes needs to be clipped and shown to every "future rich" person. Because the day I realized that when I was like 19 was when I turned full blown into not only a Democrat but a liberal. Its crazy how Reps are literally the selfish group, yet don't notice they are voting against things that benefit themselves.

13:30 Mr Shabibo, taking the taxes out of your employees paychecks is not you paying taxes. It's your employees' money getting taxed, not yours, Ben. As a business owner, I'd think you'd know that. 🤔

It’s amazing to me how differently rich people think from poor people. I live in Tennessee, and I used to work for a newspaper group. My company was part of the Tennessee Press Association that lobbied the state government to pass a law forcing all Public Notices to be printed in their newspapers and posted on their websites. And Public Notices aren’t free. I sat in the room during those talks, and the level of sheer entitlement was amazing. My former boss successfully got a law passed that requires YOU to give him YOUR MONEY! That’s rich the rich guy mindset.

@RedScareClair

2 жыл бұрын

It's called OPM. Other people's money.

This defense of billionaires by pundits and even the general public is a sickness …. Like they think they’ll get there someday … or they may think they might be friends with them … it’s just sick …. I blame robin leach ….

You earn more until you get to a point where you are forced out of your job and retire on a fixed income and saddled with compounding medical bills, thereby also paying more.

The “unrealized,” versus “realized,” wealth is only applicable to governance if everyone has that “unrealized,” wealth to cash in on if needed or wanted. These are also tax terms lol

Great breakdown of taxation on assets vs wages, thanks for putting chunks of your streams on YT

telling the rich should pay less is like telling the poor should starve more...

Shen Bapiro poops standing up

@SoularSlothesk

2 жыл бұрын

Not with how much of a tightass he is

@mistermister4525

2 жыл бұрын

I believe for Ben, that's called talking

@davidb4935

2 жыл бұрын

Yet he pees sitting down 🤔

@Samuel_Morchin

2 жыл бұрын

Like an Adelie penguin.

love your style and videos hasan🤗

It's so weird seeing americans be scared of getting taxed. In my country i benefit from government provided shcools and healthcare and honestly i can't wait to be able to pay taxes and be an "honest citizen". I would love to be able to make enough money that my taxes can provide for others. Maybe it's because we already have functional public systems that are worth putting money in whereas in america they have hard time imagining what a proper public transport/healthcare/etc could be because their current systems just suck or are nonexistent.

I had a person stand up and say to our boss that they didn’t want more money as I was arguing for our whole crew to get a raise. This is a full-time job where paying customers literally put their lives in our hands, that doesn’t pay enough to afford a studio apartment in Tucson, AZ. It never ceases to amaze me the levels some people will go to brown nose.

is he trying to argue that rich people aren’t rich because it’s possible for them to become poor? what a psychotic take. we might as well all be dead because we can die I guess then. thanks Ben very good

We will never see the changes we need to see if we keep defending these rich billionaires thinking that their wealth is going to somehow save everyone else. We have been doing this for so long and it’s obviously not working.

Damn, I didn't realise that people's wealth can go up or down. In that case the rich should probably pay no tax

Benny doesn't even know how to do his laundry; knowing that, why would anyone ever take him seriously on anything?

I feel like the graph stops at 250k because that's probably what Ben's audience thinks is making a shit ton of money and having anything more then that might cause cognitive dissonance

@PlatinumAltaria

2 жыл бұрын

There was this rich dude during a BBC debate who insisted he wasn't wealthy, like the man actually thought everyone in the country was upper middle class.

it's grim how advocating for the most basic of compromises under capitalism (i.e progressive taxes for example) is supposed to be 'radical' nowadays

Does Shabibo pay his fair share ? Fuck no

They should count assets because if you apply for food stamps the government asks you if you have not only money and a bank account and other means of wealth, but it'll ask you if you have any assets so it knows to deny you or not.

Yes Ben Shabibo, the poor should defend the rich. That's so cool.

“Buy land, they're not making it anymore.” Mark Twain

The rich paying less is literally the opposite of the bs that they commonly use to justify capitalism through trickle down economics. So he's basically saying "we shouldn't trickle down at all actually"

as a canadian, socialized healthcare is amazing. My grandma had a heart surgery last yr & bc she 75 semi-retired realtor, she was covered for everything including meds. Her sister lives in Florida and says that as a realtor there the same surgery would cost 30k D: couldn't image her having that stress while healing.

A live debate should be good

his eyebrows…..he can’t keep getting away with this

For the record, Beverly Hillbillies, the show that Ben references in the beginning is from 1962. It's very telling for the politics of the rest of the video lmao

How can people think Ben Shapiro is smart? All of his points are BS.

@angelantayhua3096

2 жыл бұрын

Because a lot of people never learned about logical fallacies and most Americans do not understand how to do proper research.

babies being in the lowest quintile made me laugh so hard

I remember when I was a wee lad, changing quintiles as I starting my first business selling my baby teeth to the tooth fairy

"In theory, a man with a billion dollar stock portfolio could end up being less wealthy than an average land owner during a market crash." No shit Sherlock. They're still a billionaire in reality.

We need to start calling water by “less land” so we know which is more expensive

Ben trying to speak with a deep voice will never not be funny

Republicans be like you got a car and an iPhone you’re rich as hell shut up

There's a particular group of people involved in banking and lending who develop ponzi schemes like that

Ben didn't leave out the 1%, he just hid them by averaging over the entire quintile. There aren't a whole lot of people with multi-million (non cap gains) incomes. The same happens on the bottom side, where the graph weirdly does not start at %0 in income, even though we know such people exist.

Dialectical materialism, jack! No more malarkey!

Forced liquidation for the average earner is already a thing. I'm sure there is more but I know at least of the RMD (required minimum distribution) if you have qualified funds and are 72 or older you have to liquidate a certain amount every year to be taxed. If you die and your beneficiary keeps the funds in a qualified state, they have to take a yearly rmd on your behalf.

I would hope to think that people in this Country are getting fed up with these corporate/oligarch bootlickers. These weasels are the bottom of the barrel. Sociopaths with no integrity that only care about personal enrichment. In other words....GRIFTERS!

It’s sad because a lot of people who listen to Ben, have no assets so they have no idea what Ben is leaving out. And they just believe him

Don't forget their write-offs! They write off everything from business lunches (50%), vehicles, home use for work and a lot more.

Generally, the value of land only goes up, unless the land becomes unusable. The value of land in Flint, Michigan took a big hit, you know, for some reason.

Jed Clampet was from Tennessee.

Ben should just admit he doesnt care about anyone else but himself and wants to keep all his wealth instead of helping society grow

I hear people say this a lot, like "this billionaire isn't even that rich, the net worth is just a sum of what he would own if he sold everything, but then the stocks would drop dramatically". And at some point I just realized: Why would they want to sell it? Sure, they can't turn their property into the number of physical dollars that make up his net worth, but why would they? They got something better than money: PROPERTY. Some property creates money in the long run, that's why they call it investments. But not even in the "it might rise in value" type of way, because that's just mostly a gamble. I mean: some property can be used to save up money (like solar panels) or to exploit other people (like land or companies). If you ask me, net worth is not even showing a high enough number.

As a Norwegian I'm curious about the "unbiased" institute he mentioned, because the figure we always hear here is that we spend approximately 33% on welfare, and as a welfare recipient myself I feel very lucky to be able to enjoy having my bills paid here rather than in America.

"If you ignore race, sex, and all those other variables I don't like, then age is the most important variable in income quintile"

Well, duh. They are the ones that pay him.

the anti reflective is a much better, or maybe its just the angle.

I, an average income earner who lives more or less paycheck to paycheck, would have to sell some shit on Facebook marketplace if I ended up owing additional taxes when I did my return, and it’s not like I really have much extra stuff of any value to sell. Why shouldn’t billionaires have to sell some shares of stock or whatever that they won’t even miss?

Land has distinct value in a capitalist system “poor property owner” isn’t real in capitalism because it’s directly tied to wealth.

Lapalma got some land expansion.

While the tax system does need reform, first we need to get rid of the people that created it, not leave them in any position of power or with any of their stolen wealth.

It's incredible how Ben Shapiro has the right information, the right thought process, yet reach the wrong conclusion.

@atticusrex2691

2 жыл бұрын

He gotta keep them sponsor's balls good and empty

@EmyN

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's the opposite, he takes what he wants to make his point, his pre-conceived values. Well, if he really believes in them lol, could just be the money talking

@MrMarinus18

8 ай бұрын

It's important to remember that when he tried to go on his own in hollywood he fell flat on his face. He mostly was bailed out by a billionare. So Ben pretty much just is a shill for billionares. His main job is to either deflect attention away from the billionares or if that doesn't work defend them. He knows he can't do it on his own as he already tried that.

The rich shouldn't even exist.

@thomaslium00

2 жыл бұрын

What?

@scifirealism5943

2 жыл бұрын

Millionaires should. Billionaires shouldn't.

@thomaslium00

2 жыл бұрын

This is just stupid.. of course they should exist… They built that wealth good for them

@beepyou34

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaslium00 the working class built that wealth and they profited off of it

@thomaslium00

2 жыл бұрын

@@beepyou34 Of course they did because the rich provided products the working class wanted to pay for! Being a smart business man is not a bad thing

seeing those comments on the video made me cringe so hard because I used to think like that

At the lowest you could buy Petsmart stock at would be $2.50 give or take, that would mean you would have had to invest 2.5 million to have that much stock. Already fucking rich if you can invest that much money into one yolo investment WTF!!!!

@JMBraz1

2 жыл бұрын

That or they got in at the low end and now they dumb super rich. They definitely cashed that shit out before it fell. It was probably Paul Pelosi Tbh

Have you ever watched RM Brown? Someone on your Leftovers podcast mentioned him and I've been bingeing his videos for 3 days straight. He responded to this debunked video days ago and very succinctly, also very rightly points out how lazy Shabibo is.

Ben can not admit to the concept of "Ownership of the Means of Production"

ok ben so just tax my wages as they are now and abolish all other taxes: personal; sales; house... im down lol

Also wealth can't be created or destroyed unless it's imaginary and doesn't obey the laws of physics in which case we could make everyone wealthy if it's just imaginary to begin with through social security for all/ubi funded by taxes

@2:08 new land dropped!

How do you not understand that a land owner in Texas before oil was dirt poor

i hate this argument bc its like. where do these rich people get most of their earnings/worth? business profits. and businesses leverage taxpayer-founder programs all the time. amazon would be nowhere near as profitable without our taxpayer-funded highways, airports, and seaports. walmart has their wages subsidized with food stamps. its. all. subsidized.