Caller: "Stop talking over me" Also Caller: Talks over everybody

@dmonzel

Ай бұрын

That's the only way Gary operates.

@830toAwesome

Ай бұрын

That's how Darth Dawkins, who this is (and who doesn't live in Texas so he's happy to lie) operates. This is him fairly tame honestly. He's also lying that he doesn't think this is, or should be, a Christian Nation.

@lubrew5862

Ай бұрын

I just love how triggggered Darth gets when people breakdown his presup questions and show the fallacies in them..

@Stile4aly

Ай бұрын

MAY I FINISH?

Good ol' Darth Dawkins. Well known as the man who has turned more Christians into Atheists than any other.

@CeezGeez

Ай бұрын

this is the second time i’ve heard him and both times he’s been a maroon (sic)

@teve90

Ай бұрын

Is this person the offspring of Darth Vader and Richard Dawkins?

@melaniesouthworth5618

Ай бұрын

His debate with Shannon Q is amazing!

@billm9775

6 күн бұрын

Came here to make the same comment, took me a couple minutes to connect the voice to the idiocy being spewed.

@brenthenderson3983

3 күн бұрын

Kudos..

Discouraging religion is a noble goal. Truth is better than brainwashing, whether you like it or not.

@rbwinn3

Ай бұрын

Atheists know quite a bit about brainwashing. Brainwashing was invented by atheist Chinese Communists.

@user-ff4lr2jj5r

Ай бұрын

Nobody has a monopoly re: truth.

@rbwinn3

Ай бұрын

Brainwashing was invented by atheists in China. They would destroy a person's mind by dripping water on a person's forehead until their minds were destroyed.

@Wix_Mitwirth

Ай бұрын

Preach, brother!🙌 🤭

@rudysimoens570

Ай бұрын

​@@user-ff4lr2jj5rindeed! Only the rational people who's arguments are backed up with scientific EVIDENCE have the truth! People should believe something to be true on the basis of EVIDENCE! Not because they have been brainwashed with all that supernatural nonsense of ANY religion, or because they like the idea that there is an imaginary skydaddy that takes care of them or because they like the idea that there is an imaginary afterlife! Anyway, science and especially evolution have already debunked the crux of christianity and the crux of all the other religions I know of ages ago. Moreover, there is not a shred of evidence for the existence of ANY god or Allah or whatever name they gave to their non-existing celestial dictator!

This is Gary Milne, a.k.a. ‘Darth Dawkins’. Any attempt at reasoning with him is wasted time.

@lubrew5862

Ай бұрын

I love how he just cries every time someone breaks down his “question” that is his presup argument. He knows it shows how weak it is.

@AkanoWire

Ай бұрын

I was searching for this xD His obnoxiously condescending tone is unique

@bellywood7688

Ай бұрын

​@@AkanoWirecheck out Jefferson Spatchcock for more Darth

@Sweetie-zf3ss

Ай бұрын

Yeah he’s the complete opposite of the real DAWKINS ones a genius and the other is one of the special people 🤨❤️

@vance9460

5 күн бұрын

He is exactly like Bill O'Reilly

I have had my fill of pseudo intellectual bullies who play the victim to dominate the conversation.

@corpeedo

Ай бұрын

nailed it. This arrogant guy Darth is unbearable.

@Ryangubbs

Ай бұрын

Agree with Corpeedo. You summed up Darth Dawkins to a tee. Literally could not have said it better myself.

Me a few minutes in: Huh. Hes actually being somewhat cordial today. Good for him. Me after 5 minutes: Ah. There it is. Welcome back, Darth, you turd sucker...

@Ryangubbs

Ай бұрын

People like this are unbelievably tedious to listen to!! 😡

"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." Isaac Asimov

@YamadaDesigns

Ай бұрын

I could see a similar statement being made by a theist

@starfishsystems

Ай бұрын

​@@YamadaDesigns Except that theirs is a positive claim for which they carry a burden of proof. Although Asimov is saying here that he doesn't have evidence of disproof, he doesn't need it to simply be unconvinced. He would only need it to support a counter proof. And he's saying that it isn't sufficiently interesting to warrant the effort.

@kevin-en2pi

Ай бұрын

Come on now, yall know the flying spaghetti monster made all of existence last thursday 😆

@nandogarza8807

Ай бұрын

Asimov and I were penpals.

@diogeneslamp8004

Күн бұрын

@@kevin-en2pi Why is it always Thursday? 😂

“Don’t over talk me or I’ll lose my place in my script.” I cannot at the moment remember the apologist who wrote a book about how to argue by asking question 1, presuming what the answer will be then question 2, etc.

@tekbarrier

Ай бұрын

I have not read the book myself, but it sounds like it could be Tactics by Greg Koukl

@tqnohe

Ай бұрын

@@tekbarrier That’s it.

“Your Honor, the defense claims Bill did not commit the murder. But, if he didn’t commit the murder, I ask the defense, who did? Since they cannot prove who committed the murder, the only answer is that is was Bill. I rest my case.”

@gregsanich5183

Ай бұрын

Regardless, the fact remains that somebody did indeed commit the murder.

@BorisNoiseChannel

Ай бұрын

@@gregsanich5183 But that's only the case, _after_ it was established that the cause of death was indeed murder, hence the fact that it was brought into a courtroom. When it comes to existence, the claim that its the handy work of a creator god, hasn't been established at all.

@gregsanich5183

Ай бұрын

@@BorisNoiseChannel you meant it hasn't been verified convclusively? ....bc the creator hypothesis most certainly has indeed been established.... in fact countless diff conceptualizations of what it is have been.

@DiMadHatter

Ай бұрын

@@gregsanich5183 that "hypothesis" has been established the same way gossiping journals about the death of the person have established the cause of death before the official announcement of the cause of death by the investigators.

@stevepierce6467

Ай бұрын

@@gregsanich5183 You are right; there is indeed a hypothesis that a creator god did it. There is also a hypothesis that pixies did it, or that a unicorn did it. All of these hypotheses have indeed been established.

This guy must be an absolute blast at parties.

@eccod

Ай бұрын

Nobody invites Darth Dawkins to parties

@neilbeaton9498

Ай бұрын

A party is a finite congregation that does not account for that which is unconditionally nondependent. He wouldn't be interested

@tiltingwindmill

Ай бұрын

​@@eccodlikely true, not even his little mini me discord sycophants.

@WhiteRabbitObject1

12 күн бұрын

He's probably not legally allowed within 500 feet of a party since there might be children there.

Seriously, I don’t know how you manage to remain courteous and calm with these people. I don’t believe I have ever finished a single one of these videos. I rage quit every single time.

@EllasPOSEiDON

Ай бұрын

I am the same. I would probably shout at these idiots. 😅

@DustinDustin00

Ай бұрын

When you want to rage quit, you might try jumping to the last 2 minutes (30 seconds?) of the video.

@m0n0deferia

Ай бұрын

You have trouble managing emotions. Get psycological help

@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761

Ай бұрын

Especially Darth Darwin he is something else🤤

@n0w3lly90

Ай бұрын

This EF guy's modus operandi is to literally dominate the narrative start to end and avoid having ANY of his beliefs held to account. Because he sees these as absolute. And his arrogance and narcissism (EF's) is so extreme that his attitude turns on a dime the moment the conversation goes in any direction he doesn't want. The best thing to do is to not talk to these people

How does that guy "know" that some other religion than Christianity is false. Seems quite convenient that the religion he believes it true?!?

@gregsimmons694

Ай бұрын

Holy Bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs! Time to get a new gig atheists! Jesus saves sinners! Use that brain God gave you!

@gregsimmons694

Ай бұрын

The holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs! Time to get a new gig atheists! Jesus saves sinners! Now use the brain God gave you!

@VitoDRF

Ай бұрын

That's the whole presup "special revelation" stance, I think. It's ridiculous. The moment they get put in the position of having to defend that premise their argument breaks down or they deflect.

@graemerose1616

Ай бұрын

"my book says so, I am too lazy to read others"

@Reignsupreme-wd1od

Ай бұрын

Religious people are always miraculously born into the right religion, no matter which of the thousands of religions that happens to be. They all present the exact same arguments (fallacies) which miraculously supports only the religion they happen to believe in.

My two policies would be: 1) Revoke religious privilege. Being religious shouldn't give you special permissions above Atheists. 2) Age of Religious Consent: If you're too young to vote you're too young to make decisions about your soul.

Ad much as I love these guys I so wish Matt had been on this call. We'd have gotten "Listen here jackass" five times already. 🤣🤣🤣

@bradkenny1506

Ай бұрын

Matt also wouldn’t have entertained the “is it possible” question that took up 20 minutes of this call. He would’ve just said “I don’t give a shit about what’s possible, I care about what’s actually true”

Darth is dishonest, he said he doesn't interrupt after doing so several times. His narcissistic attitude will never let him learn,or at least never admit he's wrong.

@AdmiralBison

Ай бұрын

Socipaths like this caller helps dissuade people from Religion. When all the moderates eventually leave religion, what little remains in the churches will be fanatics, bigots and conmen like the caller dude.

“Destroy religion and suppress religious people?” Dude, no. I only want to do one of those things.

@starfishsystems

Ай бұрын

I really just want not to be bothered by deluded people and their intrusions upon my life. That includes Strawman fallacies directed at atheists.

I heard this caller for years on an audio chatroom. He does the same thing every time. He tries to talk over you when you’re answering him and then claims that YOU are rude for interrupting him. He will actually cry if you don’t let him away with it.

@AdmiralBison

Ай бұрын

The guy sounds like a sociopath and needs mental health treatment, adding Religion I believe just makes a nasty mix.

Ah, Darth, the most painful of all presuppers. He was on a show run by a mate of mine here in Australia, and was absolutely crushed, it was hilarious!

@slickguitar5818

Ай бұрын

That is Darth! I didn't pick it up until about 4 minutes in.

@bryanmack5410

Ай бұрын

You gotta share a link. Few things make me happier than Darth.

@azuradawn5683

Ай бұрын

Not sure if you're able to post links here but how do we find this episode??

@richardmcmurry9102

Ай бұрын

@@bryanmack5410Darth cracks me up

@josephmayfield945

Ай бұрын

I too want to see this video.

23 min - I made it this far because I was doing dishes and couldn’t rage quit with my hands soapy. The dishes are done and so am I.

I love how theists demand atheists have an answer for every single question in the world or we must be wrong. But when you question them suddenly all you need is faith.

@gregsimmons694

Ай бұрын

The holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs! Time to get a new gig atheists! Jesus saves sinners! Use the brain God gave you

@gregsimmons694

Ай бұрын

The holy Bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs! Time to get a new gig atheists! Jesus saves sinners! Now use that brain God gave you!

@yep_2431

Ай бұрын

The format's backwards it should be the host asking questions in the guest explaining on this type of show

@Cellidor

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Like he seriously askes without a hint of irony "If the answer to X isn't god, then what else is it?" May as well ask 'If the answer to the question isn't 4, then what's your answer?', like, buddy whether I have an answer to the question or not you gotta show your work.

@jayrifel8920

18 күн бұрын

Do you know why? The Christian theist wants to invoke "tu quoque", "you atheist have faith too", but we have a big sky daddy while you have not, therefore we are the winner. LOL

He’ s trying so hard to open the door to a ‘God of the Gaps” argument.

Imagine having this Darth POS guy as your roommate hammering you day and night about "what is the ultimate nature of reality" and his ever so tedious and monotonous "non-material, non-contingent mind that has the power to effectuate the initial conditions of the universe" as arguments for you to accept the Christian deity he's enamored with as a logical conclusion. It's insane.

@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS

Ай бұрын

BUT MUH SCRIPT! MAY I FINISH! MAY I FINISH, YOU'RE OVERTALKING ME! YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED! WHAT IS IT THAT IS ULTIMATE THAT ALL BEING IS CONDITIONAL UPON!? I'M NOT MAKING AN ARGUMENT I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION!

@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS

Ай бұрын

You're being very rude. May I SPEAK without being OVERSPOKEN?!

I have no interest in banning religion unless it advocates for me to have to follow their crap or have my taxes fund them.

I've listened to this call before like 20 times and I still can't understand shit, why to demostrate that something exists and interacts with the world needs so much mental masturbation? If I want you to meet my mom I dont need to construct a whole fucking argument and justify the laws of logic.

@ricklarsen7189

Ай бұрын

“Mental masturbation” is a term that should be applied to callers like this often. Always, even.

@FBDAGM2023

21 күн бұрын

I think the caller was trying to do the cosmological argument, premise by premise. I love this show, and the man was rude and aggressive, but I don’t think the presenters handled his points well at all, very unusually.

This dude thinks because he knows big words, he makes a solid argument!

Challenging religious ideologies is not `suppressing religious people.` While I certainly would not mourn the death of religion in general, I have no desire to destroy it, or dictate what people ought to believe. However, if the religious indoctrination machine can't stand up to scrutiny, to the point such scrutiny is seen as `suppressing religious people,` I'd say it doesn't need my help anyway.

It's always, you prove to me my god doesn't exist or is possible. Lol

This is Darth Dawkins. He has one script and he does not deviate from it.

With all of the arguing that EF did, he STILL did not prove that his God exist. He only wanted to argue to TRY to get "gotcha" moments. Under all of his words, he was "secretly" asserting his God.

What a rude caller. He was answered piece by piece, but he didn't like it, so he kept repeating and changing the question. Y'all have more patience than I do.

@TrashBunBun

Ай бұрын

Kudo to you two for not playing his games

I love the callers that talk over the hosts are the same ones that get super pissy about being talked over😂

14:29 "I'm not being rude", he says, rudely. My word, I've never been this annoyed at someone trying to make their point by steamrolling the entire conversation, from start to finish, having zero interest in actually listening to any of the responses given, interrupting as soon as anyone tries to give more than a one-word answer, and getting annoyed when anyone interrupts him to try to discuss or clarify a point instead of letting him monologue ahead with his point, ignoring what people say in favour of throwing out principles of reasoning he has a very poor understanding of, all just to try to make lazy "gotcha" for the sake of scoring some imaginary debate points.

I don't understand your question. Liar 😠 He can't answer honestly because it would result in the admission that he's trying to avoid.

It's not that atheists want to suppress religion, we just want people to think critically and come to atheism on their own without forcing it. I don't want to be like religion and try to convert them or force it on them. I believe in freedom, freedom to believe or not to believe as long as you don't take that freedom from me.

Gary suggests that if you don't know how the internals of your phone work, you don't have the ability to use it... I don't need to know the ultimacy of existence

Don't talk over me, says the nitwit. But he is doing it himself.

"I'm not saying that's a requirement, I'm just saying it's a necessary prerequisite" is like saying, "I'm not saying that the Arrow III is an electric train, I'm just saying that it's a train that draws electricity from an overhead wire."

A mute button would have been really freaken nice during this call. My god. This guy boils my blood. He so stuck on his argument he won't even stop and consider what's being actually said.

I've been watching these calls for the past 4 months and this was the worst guy I've ever had the misfortune of listening to. He actually gave me a migraine. You guys are astonishingly patient.

@CutThroatJuggalo

Ай бұрын

It's Darth Dawkins, he has called multiple times and he is just as abrasive every time.

Caller desperately trying to get an "ah ha told you so" moment is hilarious

This guy, to me, sounds like the guy who took his phone into the repair shop and was so adamant that rice would've fixed it, regardless of what the repairman said

“How dare you suggest treating us the way we treat you?!” Only a problem if you’re hurting people, Mr. Bizarro-Golden-Rule.

Yeah, E.F. is totally not overtalking the hosts. (sarcasm)

What an insufferable caller. You guys were more patient than he deserved.

EF is such a horrible person

All conscious entities require a biological substructure for thought to commence. No body, no deity.

@Hariester

Ай бұрын

Not exactly. You can have artificial intelligence. Processor doesn't need to be biological.

@starfishsystems

Ай бұрын

​@@Hariester You'd have to demonstrate that some form of AI is conscious. As a forrmer AI researcher, I'm pretty confident in predicting that you won't be able to do that.

@Hariester

Ай бұрын

@@starfishsystems today - very much unlikely. But in a hundred years? Two hundred years?

"Is it too much to ask to be able to talk without being interrupted *and* also interrupt you while you're talking?" 🤦‍♂😂

Maybe, the best answer to the question about the possibility would be "I cannot know, therefore I don't know, but due to the given characteristics, I find the probability close to impossible.

WE DO? Not me. I don't mind if religion goes away, but I don't really care if it doesn't either. My biggest beef with religion is conning old people out of their savings for fairytales. Even if I'm wrong the preachers, I have a beef with are absolutely nothing like Jesus.

I don't think i've ever heard darth get anywhere in a debate, he will never leave his script.

As an atheist, I don't want to force religious people to stop. I want them to conclude that on their own. After that, religion would die off naturally.

@faelheavymetal

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694 Is this supposed to be a joke?

@cshubs

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694 Are the sun and other planets also flat?

@hegyak

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694 Yes. I want the Zombie man to save me, from what he's going to do to me, if he doesn't save me. He is just like the Mafia.

@VegasGenxBox

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694 ...please get some mental therapy

@atdynax

Ай бұрын

Religion will only die off if you maintain a society that allows people to be able to conclude on their own.

Does blue orange tomatoes? I say no

@trigfanorthwales

Ай бұрын

HERETIC!

Your patience with this guy is impressive

We've seen from the inside of an atom to the farthest reaches of the known universe. Every time science makes a discovery God has one less place to hide

DD lol. I say no more.

@azuradawn5683

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694 Oh, honey... You poor thing. I hope you find the strength to seek help - or at least find better things to do with your time.

@Wheres_the_money_lebowski

Ай бұрын

​@@gregsimmons694Sin is a made up concept.

Way more patient then i would have been without the debate spanning weeks, however i think the end point is extremely valuable in dealing with that sort of presupposition.

@itsdodger1176

Ай бұрын

Also a great example of good old fashioned sophistry, he had to keep framing his position as a yes no question, with the priming that a rational person wouldn't give either, he makes it seem like his position is the only rational conclusion but refuses to allow further discussion on it, exactly what an appeal to ignorance looks like.

“I wasn’t hearing a direct answer…” Yeah, that happens when you don’t listen and read your script instead. 🙄

He called in thinking he held all the cards but met with straightforward critical thinking, his house of cards collapsed. He was also closed minded and was unable to comprehend the answers he was given.

Is it possible for a creator god to exist? Who cares whether it is possible? It's a ludicrous idea. It's possible that aliens abducted JFK. It's possible that flying penguins exist. It's possible that antigravity exists. It's possible that I can dance on my head.

Darth Dawkins would be fun in bars, and even more fun just outside.

The way my brain lit up when I realized that I recognized this caller’s voice.

23:09 "Why wont you let me gish gallop?!"

@brogren802

Ай бұрын

I call that cluster fuckin. He seems to take the Peterson approach to cluster fuckin his way through with endless word salad with no nutritional value whatsoever.

We may have difference of opinion... For religious organizations, they should not receive government money. Period. No tax dodges, no risk free loans, none of the "government benefits" they currently enjoy. I also belive that all "societal boons" should be removed, just because someone is a priest, doesn't mean "oh they would never touch a child, they are a man of god". If a church, religious leader commits a crime, they are not to be treated differently. And... I think that's about it... they should be properly taxed on that property holdings, like every other organization... um... hmmm I think that's it. Is that "me wanting to cripple them", I don't think so. Would that in effect cripple them? Yeah, probably, they are fricking scams, relying on the gullability of the masses, and the tax deductions. At least a lot of the worst churches...

Ok, when Jamie's voice volume rises, sh*t's gonna get real.

When a debate pervert calls in and wants to prove the ultimate question by playing a trick with words...

If you give someone $100 every day for long enough, they will take it for granted. Then, if you stop one day, they will think you owe them $100.

"The separation of church and state are to keep forever from these shores the constant strife that soaks Europe's soil in blood" James Madison.

I'm one of those who want to do away with the destructive influence of religion. Yet it is the best to do away with it. I think the church as a business does need to be done away with. I would support that

The whole call was aggravating as all hell, but the video is so worth it for the rant at the end. Shame the one person who needed to hear it most will never listen to it.

This caller's disingenuous, argumentative verbal diarrhea is the very definition of 'sophistry'.

" What is the ultimacy of your reality that lets you believe in ....reality"..... Good grief.

I don't want to destroy religion and suppress religious people. i want religious people to abandon religion of their own volition and i want the religious to stop oppressing the non religious while also crying about being the victims because they can't oppress more.

Asking the question "is it possible for a creator god to exist?" is basically begging the question, and demanding a "yes/no" answer that it isn't possible to provide honestly, because the only honest answer is "I don't know." All atheists can claim is they don't have enough reliable evidence to convince them that any of the postulated or claimed gods are real.

@starfishsystems

Ай бұрын

Moreover, a perfectly reasonable answer is that, no, it's NOT POSSIBLE for a creator god to exist. Because if that WERE possible, then it would also be possible for a creator of that creator to exist, and so on and infinitum. It would be better to ask whether it's possible that a creator god does NOT exist. And here the answer is yes. Reality could simply exist without some hypothetical intelligence operating behind the scenes. Until we encounter some evidence that a creator god is somehow necessary, it remains entirely possible that it isn't necessary. And we have found no such evidence.

@Leszek.Rzepecki

Ай бұрын

@@starfishsystems I think it all depends on how you define "god" and "possible." I use "possible" in the sense of ability to exist in physical reality - if the question had been, "Is it conceivable that a god can exist?" I wouldn't have had the same trouble with it. And if by "god" you'd specifically meant Jesus or [insert favourite deity here] then I will agree - that's a ludicrous question.

Is it possible that when you loose a tooth but put it under your pillow that a tooth fairy come and takes it and leaves you money ? That is basically what the caller is saying😂

I agree. Delusion should be classified as illness.

This is one of the most dishonest and arrogant callers, dude. A real Creative Unique Natural Talent.

CAN I FINISH? CAN I FINISH?! ... alright I'm finished

seriously, the dude needs to travel the world and get a perspective on other religions and world views. he would find out that his world view is just as pathological as the ones he abhors or derides.

@kaihedgie1747

Ай бұрын

He can't do that: it would get in the way of his narcissism

@gregsimmons694

Ай бұрын

Holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys atheist beliefs! Time to get a new gig atheists! Jesus saves sinners! Now use that brain God gave you!

@anamoose461

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694if that’s what it requires for you to not be a serial murderer rapist then sure buddy, jesus saves. me as an atheist, i’ve got basic empathy and compassion for others so there’s no need for me to subject myself underneath some god that has given no proof of its existence

@victoriafuller4148

Ай бұрын

I always think that would help….then I hear calls like this and give up on that idea. They cannot think outside their box

@cy-one

Ай бұрын

@@gregsimmons694 *"God of the holy Bible made you!"* Haven't heard a good argument in support of that claim. *"Jesus christ of Nazareth from the holy Bible can save you!"* Haven't heard a good argument in support of that claim. *"Use the brain God gave you!"* Haven't heard a good argument in support of that claim.

I have no reason to believe that his creator God has been sufficiently demonstrated to be possible.

"I want to do my script but first I'll bait and switch with some other nonsense".

I don't want to destroy religion I find it a useful way to find out who not to trust.

Who cares if they can justify that they can reason. They clearly can. Unlike E.F.

So, by EFs question, is it possible that a pink unicorn farted the universe into existence? If not, whynot?

“Is it possible for a mind to exist without a material brain?” My answer would have been “is it possible for a ghost to poo without an anus?” I mean, come on… do we really need to entertain the ‘possibility’ of something completely made up?

My question is why should Christian organisations be given any preferential treatment over other organisations. When it is only run for the benefit of it's own members.

Siri, what is the definition of "insufferable"?

We don't observe the entire universe so by that logic we cannot conclude that gravity is a law, by the caller's logic.

Yes! When do we start?

What fallacy is it when someone keeps claiming you're engaging in a fallacy by asking for evidence?

Gary is Master Word Salad Chef

The tag argument. Havent this been refuted hundreds of times

i know this is a throwback but i like the way Matt approaches the question "do you think its possible that this X and Y god exists? ", he usually says something like "yeah, its possible. but without sufficient evidence its on the same plain as the probability of unicorns existing." Also how can you ask someone to "reason" whether you need "logic" to "reason". that seems very circular... how could you answer that question without logic?

When pushed to make claims of "is it possible or impossible that a creator god exists" I would posit: "I have no reason to believe in its possibility." Now that'll obviously be responded to with "so do you think it's impossible", but the question is flawed. Sure, there is that point in reasoning, the same that can't solve hard solipsism, where we cannot claim things in our reason to be true; if you raise the standards to that level in a conversation it's most likely impossible to claim ANYTHING to be impossible. Can you truly claim it's impossible for the moon to be made of cheese? Have you been there? Can you without a doubt show a piece of the moon that is non-cheese? I can't, even the moon rock taken by the astronauts can be a lie. Fairies "can" be real, me being birthed by a man "can" be real, but none of them are reasonable to believe in. So forfeiting creator god being "possible" is a vacuous statement, it only holds value as a soundbite to be used dishonestly in god-belief's favor or mock people for the black swan-fallacy if they say it's impossible. It is a dishonest gotcha-question.

Like arguing with a fence

It's the give me the answers that I want or I'll accuse you of avoiding the question guy again.

Dang it! As soon as I heard him speak I knew it was Darth Dawkins.

Every time this guy says 'I didn't mention _______ ,' it makes me wonder if he thinks he's talking to himself. Other people get to mention stuff too, dude, holy shit. 😆

They actually did a shit job responding to this simple question. He asked “is it possible for a creator god to exist”. The easy answer given his definition is “I don’t know if it’s possible as that creator god has never been demonstrated”. The guy on the right absolutely made an argument from ignorance and weakly backtracked

Exactly what methods are they using to cripple the church financially? If it's simply removing exemptions because they want to speak politically over a pulpit that's not a method to financially cripple the church that's just making them live like the rest of us...

The default position is that there is NOT a god until one shows up. That is the Null Hypothesis.