Honestly I feel like Kim Kardashian should just sue everyone because I feel like music wasn’t even really a thing until her song My Jam (Turn it Up) came out. It really changed the game for music, and is definitely one of the best songs of all time, and honestly the whole industry owes a lot to her.

@smec7291

2 жыл бұрын

The playing my jam they playing my jam turn it up turn it dj

@ethanethan9575

2 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, my jam (turn it up) was definitely one of the songs of all time !

@anthonyrider889

2 жыл бұрын

Yes her vocals are insane, I’m surprised they were able to fit her massive voice into the mix almost. Such power. Such talent. What a song.

@Dru_Won

2 жыл бұрын

Paris Hilton changed the entire game a decade ago w her first single . But not to the extent of Ashley Simpson like a decade before that

@Mojacaine

2 жыл бұрын

She ran so everyone else could walk...... in her butt shadow

this has gone so far that Taylor Swift is getting sued for "stealing" a line in Shake it Off: "haters gonna hate." that's the whole line. she's being sued over three words by someone who claims to have invented the phrase. this really sets a terrible precedent. imagine if writers could sue other writers for using the same three words in the same order. literally insane.

@jamiedimaulo2537

2 жыл бұрын

this is why I’m scared to make music. just three lines in one song

@ilyswiftchocolate9105

2 жыл бұрын

if they sued stay by Justin Bieber and kid Laroi I'ma lose it

@marcotisch2605

Жыл бұрын

Especially since „haters gonna hate“ and „players gonna play“ are just… commonly used slang phrases 💀💀

Don't worry guys! I'm CONSTANTLY stealing from big artists so I'm FOR SURE balancing the scale!

Honestly, every language should be copyrighted, and we should all be charged for speaking. Venmo me $80 if you agree.

@LukasSheshene1

Жыл бұрын

No

Can't wait to get sued for using a G chord.

Awesome vid as always. I do think some (probably most) music lawsuits are silly but I do think some are justified. Mainly in the case of out right STEALING an entire melodic phrase from another song or piece. The main song that comes to mind is H.E.R.'s song "Focus" which used the EXACT same melody line used in pianist Andre Sims musical piece "Endless Minds". Andre posted his song to IG an entire year before Focus came out, plus Andre found footage of a producer talking about how he was scrolling through IG when he was "inspired" for Focus. All Andre wanted was producer's credit from H.E.R.'s team but they repeatedly ignored him, which led to him suing and it ending in a settlement.

Labels strike independent artist for using their samples but ripps off and steals from independent artist. Its corporate greed. Labels are the problem.

I agree with what you're saying. Yeah, some music are gonna have the similar vibes... that's kinda how we create playlists or categories

Led Zeppelin were notorious for stealing from other artists. I think they had a number of lawsuits.

I would love some visuals to go along to the music theory lessons, appreciate the time you take to explain. good shit though, keep it up

i’ve heard lesser-known songs “sound like” a bigger song. but the artist of the bigger song doesn’t sue them. so what i get is that these suers def want a share. get the bag i guess

@Lugito96

2 жыл бұрын

Its because publishers and editorials know that they are not making a whole lot of money of the songs, but if the song starts to attract a lot of attention and significant amount of money is coming in, they will definitely sue.

@vanchenzo_

2 жыл бұрын

As an independent artist I strongly disagree, Label artist can sample or steal anything w protection from their label, try to rip off a label song and post it on spotify or soundcloud, they'll strike you almost immediately.

The more content that enters the public domain the more antibodies we will have for a future plague of safe creative decision scarcity.

Could you make a video about celebrities that made music like how kim kardashian released a song and that many people forget that paris hilton was a successful singer for a while and is a dj as well as brie larsons failed pop album ect.

RiP: A Remix Manifesto is a great documentary on this exact topic, made by the National Film Board of Canada. It highlights a lot of different issues including how Disney extended copyright protections to last 70 years after the artists deaths. It also features Girl Talk, a mashup artists who's song's are created only using samples. They're like beautiful mosaics that make more sense as you get older and understand more and more of the songs referenced.

@HOOZAR

2 жыл бұрын

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for me the copyright system is just stupid just because you own a song does not mean you got the notes. if you have listened to a lot of songs or you are composing a song you will know that all of the songs must have something in common. in fact that fly me to the moon sounds like a part of "fugue bmv 565" and "la campenlla" and "symphony no.5" which sound entirely different. for me it is impossible to listen to any music with out it remembring me of another song. so in brief yeah it ruins a lot of music. musicans who sue people for there music that sound a bit alike just want money.

Thanks for explaining keys lemon

Fantastic video, very entertaining. Thanks!

Amazing video song psych! glad to be here early :)

your editing is everything

No matter how many times someone explains music theory to me I will never get it

Showed this to my mom and she said that I can't have any jello. Thanks a lot dev

@Dru_Won

2 жыл бұрын

There's a chick who's chews lemon jello for ASMR

ur hair looks freshh i feel like copying a melody aaaand lyrics together should make u liable cause that's usually the central part of the song great vid !

Fun fact about the article soundsystem case: Levitating was made first and the only comments on the song on soundcloud were from after the lawsuit started.

What sucks is the creep of what constitutes theft. Lyrics?....whole melodies? sure - these are no brainers. I'm glad you brought up the Blurred Lines suit at the end because you are correct - that opened the floodgates. Who defines "vibe" and "feel" of a song? I really think that suit in particular was the major labels' answer to independent artists leveraging the web for distribution and marketing. Just as it became feasible to have a career as a musical artist without bowing to a label, now every indy has to live under the threat that if their new hot song gets too popular and starts generating some duckets, it will be discovered to have the same "vibe" as a song in Warner's back catalog. And with labels investing primarily in buying catalogs instead of artist dev.....I don't think this fact was lost on them. Just patent trolls with a treble clef logo.

This was really interesting!

Would love to see a review of your top albums

@darijabrojchin5324

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy are you in for a treat

I would love a video on movie soundtracks from you!!

I mean, in the case of Marvin Gaye vs. Robin Thicc. He and Pharrell admitted to basically using Marvin's song as an outline for theirs. They admitted to listening to it in the studio.

DEV'S HAIR! But good video, as always.

Thanks for the buzz! Thanks Thanks Thank, thank, thank you! Thanks you! #coldbrew #crazy #pullitoutyourhole

@schadowizationproductions6205

2 жыл бұрын

only liking this for the #crazy

Thank you so much for making this video the last few minutes are perfect I couldnt have said it better. Are music lawsuits killing creativity? Short answer yes. Long answer ive never understood why samples need to be cleared or why music lawsuits ever existed in the first place. Music is a safe and creative space. Very few maniacal and sinister business people are looking at music rn like a devious lick. No one is saying oh im gonna start making music thats the most profitable industry in the world. As a small artist you might make $20 on your first 5 albums. And as a big artist you might make millions but be forced to deal with inevitable law suits and backlash for any new work you put out. A successful music career is not a cash grab or a career choice necessarily but a dedication to something that most people would see as impossible. This is what makes it an art form. Musicians are against all odds and people in the industry still have the audacity to treat each others work so poorly. By now there shouldve been laws in place defining music as free range and allowing anyone to profit off of anything that flows through the industry. Sadly we are still in 2022 and nothing has changed. Im still afraid to drop my next project without clearing any of my samples bc you never know when its going to blow up and be torn apart by the industry. I really hope in my lifetime people of all ages will grow tf up and understand how short of a time we are actually here for. You have roughly 80 years to make something of yourself. When you die, allow people to use your work as reference. It is afterall the most honorable thing you can do with someone elses work. Wether you profit off of it or not is determined by your skill and the ability to market yourself, not by the substance of the sample or stolen melody or how good you are at suing people. Thanks for reading :) should i make my own video about this or is this comment more than enough lmao

@EpicMailPotato

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like without the threat of lawsuit though there would be people who would successfully take advantage of that

@ApolloMclaren

2 жыл бұрын

@@EpicMailPotato yes but every other artist in the world would be able to release what their heart desires and thats all that matters in the end

@EpicMailPotato

2 жыл бұрын

@@ApolloMclaren I think that's a bit optimistic. The majority of people can release whatever their heart desires anyway. In the grand scheme of music, the amount of lawsuits is quite minimal compared to the potential evil done by people taking advantage of the system. Also, consider the songs written by committee. Popular songs would become awful. Oh that record label produced a super-successful song? Let's just use the exact same tune and beat and put our vocalist over top. I feel like if you're making your own music that is at risk of a lawsuit, then it's not your music (for the most part). Surely you couldn't get the satisfaction of creating and releasing your own art if you and other can just steal whatever other people make, where's the creativity in that? The lawsuit is definitely abused by some (although success is rarely achieved in most cases such as with Katy Perry) however it protects so many people. A large artist could hear a song from someone with 20 listeners, and completely rip it and get millions of dollars for it.

i was so distracted by dev's hand gestures i need to rewatch this video

Pure inspiration when it gets like a thousand

Sorry, but using the same chord progression and melody for a single in "this is my pop punk album" with one of the biggest songs of the genre its more than just a coincidence. The intentions are more than clear to me.

Thanks

Imagine the New York subway would lawsuit Asap fergs plain jane 😂😂😂

Haha dev is wearing a yellow shirt bc... lemons. Get it, dev lemons hahaha

@Dru_Won

2 жыл бұрын

And jealousy. "Lemon eyes "- Meg Myers

She probably had 0% input on that song. Most likely one of her producers heard the song and wrote around it.

dev lemons gives me gneder envy honestIy

You should apply to Brooklyn Law School!!! Great music law program, I speak from experience.

thanks

Your so fucking funny. The editing is always so good. Also the singing of misery business and good 4 u was hilarious

I fux with noise, so it's literally win win for me lol

Just wanted to say, like the second thumbnail far better, the first one felt like an assualt on my eyeballs

Still upset we can’t get Nostalgia, Ultra on streaming because of the Eagles.

@robertharris2139

2 жыл бұрын

Why? What did they do?

@thelambsauce7223

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertharris2139 they didn't do anything lol and blaming the eagles is ridiculous. on "American Wedding" Frank raps over Hotel California. Eagles don't want to be associated with rap music I'm sure.

@charlestonobryant807

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelambsauce7223 Calling Frank a talentless prick and threatening legal action sure sounds like “nothing” to me, Frank is an R&B artist, and what’s wrong with being associated with rap anyway?

@thelambsauce7223

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlestonobryant807 you lack perspective.

@charlestonobryant807

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelambsauce7223 what perspective makes that better, genuinely asking?

yes

As a mucicologist and noise musician I would say yes

I just love you!

I know im biased when it comes to this because I'm pretty sure le1f never even sued Macklemore over the wut/thrift shop situation but it's been years and I'm still fully on his side but normally I'm just minding my own business 🤷

Balls!! 😂😂

good artists borrow, great artists steal.

@-Scrapper-

2 жыл бұрын

stolen comment

@thebreakfastclubrecords

2 жыл бұрын

@@-Scrapper- no i came up with this quote not picasso

its basically like sampling without knowing LOL

If you really wanna laugh at one too - The xx 'Intro' was basically ever so slightly changed for a Hugo Boss ad

You are scaring and soooo stinky today. I love it.

Oh breaking laws is illegal.... Such thought provoking questions... 😧.

embrace the noise

Singing the Olivia part and the Hayley part with different vocal performances, so perfectly in tune. Wtf are you showing off or something?

Here early affff let’s gooo

I like ur hive mind shirt

whats the sound of music

I ain’t pass the bar but I know a little bit.. like legally you can search my shit

Yeah somebody should sue the Avalanches and DJ Shadow 😄 and by somebody I mean half the world.

Don't forget the small artists that get sued by big labels. Even the examples you give were all just big artists vs. big artists. The only small artist you named was the sue-ER in a case. There are many examples of small artists who get fucked over by big established artists who are signed to big labels. Just look at all the difficulties rappers have to go through to use a fricking sample. All of this is just nonsense; just a way for big corporations to commodify art, so that everyone has to be signed to a label in order to make making music profitable for themselves. And in this way they can profit off of other people's work under the excuse of "well, but we provide you with lawyers and PR and such". Like, all of that stuff wouldn't be necessary if labels didn't exist in the first place.

dude some people think "redbone" by childish gambino ripped off bootsy collins' number 1 hit "id rather be with you"

im so early, wanna say i hope anyone that sees this has a a nice day

@bigsanrio

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Thanks, Thanks!

@gotzemusic

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you do too :)

@goofiestgal

2 жыл бұрын

thanks n you too :)

If anyone could sue for similar musical ideas, Noel Gallager would get his ass beat.

wouldn’t proving that a person heard a song be close to impossible?

@quentin9287

2 жыл бұрын

It is, unless they ask to cover it and then are denied, as was the case with Bruno Mars vs Breakbot for “baby I’m yours” and “treasure”

hi dev

SongPsych is always a bit scary tbh, but to be fair, that's 100% why I'm here...

yeah idk, olivia and paramore might be a rip. its the same chord progression in the same genre with the same lyrical theme and a similar vocal style. while i completely believe olivia and her team could have originally created this, paramores song has so many plays in the past decade, that i think its undeniable that olivia and her assists were subconsciously channeling something they’d heard

@rudellius

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and so do dozens of other songs, it has a very common chord progression and lyrical themes.

@man4437

2 жыл бұрын

No way two young female pop punk singers sound the same 🤯 I genuinely think no one would call it a rip off if she didn't sound like Hailey. I joked once that it's not a rip-off, but it's the same song because of the vocals. It's hardly impossible that that's what they had in mind but it's also very possible that it's just an extremely simple hook.

informative and funny, great video

Samples r cool.

dont forget sublime is a cover band

PATD also ripped off the sound of music in build god but nothing happened there, was it just bc Ariana is a superstar? Panic! wasn't quite as financially successful, but still. Also I'm wondering how fair use after a certain amount of years comes into play?

@rampion1228

2 жыл бұрын

They've also taken riffs from rock lobster and toms dinner - at what point does it cross from sampling into plagarism? Genuinely curious

Cactuses

WHEN IS LEMON DEVELOPER GOING TO BE ON HIVEMIND???

You have the cadence of an invader Zim character

ur song has the same vibe as mine give me 7 billion dollars

Check out the story about Bruno Mars stealing from Breakbot

When should just abolish intellectual property, nobody who actually NEEDS to defend themselves actually can. OooOh a multi-million dollar artist got copied, must be reaaaal hard for them.

Starlight balls

Enjoying this slow SongPsych descent into full-on libertarianism.

Ayy

Vanilla Ice is a hero

Every time she bite her lips makes me wanna act up

Well, the world's gonna end anyway.

olivia def ripped paramore

your so cuteee

good lort that good4u thing smh* I wish Paramore refused to let them pay royalties to them. bUt tHeY wOUlD bE foOLs tO PAss uP mILLiOnS of DOlLars

I'm sorry, but if i don't say this i will probably die. You should call your fan base The Lemon Party.

The vanilla Ice thing opens up a whole different conversation about copyright with regards to sampling. Such as Frank Ocean's frankly disgusting sampling of Hotel California for 'American Weeding' which he did not have permission for and completely butchered. Then there's Pharoahe Monch's 'Simon Says' which had an uncleared sample of the Godzilla (1954) soundtrack. The ensuing lawsuit effected Pharoahe Monch's career in a way that he was never really able to recover from.

they should give a number one youtube channel award to dev

abolish copyright

First ily dev

@onioncum446

2 жыл бұрын

Nvm im second so ig i dont love u dev

Have any of you also caught themselves constantly pushing the 0 on your keyboards in different rythms, making their own Dev Lemons' remix? Or is it just me who's that strange 🙃

None of the pop kids are original these days. It’s all manufactured like a Big Mac.

Another interesting musical lawsuit was between Breakbot and Bruno Mars over the songs “baby I’m yours” and “treasure.” Basically Bruno Mars asked to cover the song, Breakbot said no, and then proceeded to make “treasure” which uses a lot of the same elements as “baby I’m yours.” I don’t think the two sound strikingly similar, but Bruno Mars did ask to cover the song and then was denied so I believe the lawsuit was warranted. Breakbot now has a writing credit and gets royalties on the song.

I think the music theory-sphere is very inconsistent and selective on what constitutes infringement. The Vanilla Ice lawsuit was based on nothing but two notes and the placement of those notes. Did he rip off that bass line? Unequivocally, yes. But that has been a staple of rap music since its very inception. Especially at the time that this happened. A lot of rap artists and groups sampled things directly from albums. The Beastie Boys, for example. Tone Loc sampled Van Halen. Rappers have sampled a myriad of artists from every possible genre. And I _still_ think their songs are more original than Dua Lipa’s song. Not only is the progression the same, the lyrics are similar, the rhythm is the same, the feel is the same. The vocal delivery is damned near the same. The only thing that’s different is Dua Lipa and her band of merry writers and producers know how to produce a track better. There’s no convincing me one of the five writers of that song didn’t happen upon the track, or perhaps a live performance, and took a little too much inspiration from it. It’s the most reasonable lawsuit of its kind in a long time.

@1g.

2 жыл бұрын

real

@-Scrapper-

2 жыл бұрын

artists sample with permission

@crescendo5594

2 жыл бұрын

@@-Scrapper- They rarely did then. In fact, none of the examples I listed did.

That coi leroy video on Snapchat is a joke. People are allowed to dislike artists haha. You don’t even address her music you just talk about the comments. Her cypher was bad she barely said words maybe that could be a reason the comments were mean.

I wanted to like but I’m so early that the likes are at 69