frank fans were saying “the album is gonna go crazy now” after his brother died so i can’t really blame him if he didn’t want anything to do with them. should probably get the merch site fixed though lol

@huntertothee

Жыл бұрын

the merch delivery is the only thing i blame him being irresponsible on. i feel like when it comes to music and music releases fans feel so entitled that an artists owes them new music when in reality its all up to an artist whether they want to or not

@indianvinecorp.7447

Жыл бұрын

No frank fan said that. Tho this kind of behaviour has become a norm with other artists, but his fans were very sensitive and caring about this.

@alvarocostaalves

Жыл бұрын

hm that's a stretch

@lordbauer5983

Жыл бұрын

No real fan would say that kind of shit… That mentality is just a product of hypebeast culture, which Frank became associated with after CO. Anybody who talked like that after his brother’s death should throw their merch & records away, because the fans don’t claim them.

@frezling2442

Жыл бұрын

Who the fuck was saying that lol I didn't see a single fan say shit like that, they were in fact very largely against people talking about him releasing new music after his brother died

this is exactly why it's super offputting to me when fans of musicians try to pressure them to release entire albums sooner than planned (i've even seen people say this about kehlani, which is absurd to me bc i feel like she's been constantly working and putting out new music for yearrrs). i honestly respect it a lot when musicians are able to really step back and take the time to make their project into exactly what they want it to be before releasing it. kinda wish they were allowed to do it more and the industry standard for record releases wasn't so unrealistic

@fionacurrin

Жыл бұрын

and to the point of celebrities being humans at the end of the day, if one of my favorite artists suddenly decided to retire from their music career, i would be sad of course but i would completely understand if that's what somebody felt was the best decision for them, regardless of how much more potential i personally might've thought they had

It's like what Earl said on Doris "I don't care what you're going through or what you gotta do, i need bars, 16 of them" People only care about the music and it's funny when it's memes but people don't realize how much emotion it takes to make something like Blonde..

@chillspot331

Жыл бұрын

I mean...doesn't change the fact he hasn't put out music for a long time ngl if he dont wanna drop an album no issue but if u got fans and not gonna "feed" them they gonna gave issues so he shouldn't be forced to drop an album but that's just apart of the trials and tribulations that come with being an artiste

@jimbojombo9424

Жыл бұрын

@@chillspot331 he doesnt need to do shit he is his own man

@nausicaa8179

Жыл бұрын

@@chillspot331 “if you’ve got fans and you’re not going to feed them” lmao get offline brother. That’s fried. He doesn’t owe us anything.

@DankScole

Жыл бұрын

@@chillspot331 “tribulations that come with being a artist” 😂 being any artist is JUST that. Creating art. There’s no rules. Blonde was what it was because it was emotionally pure. You want him to rush some BS. Listen to his old music if you miss him that much 🙄

@RubbelisPro

Жыл бұрын

@@chillspot331 he put out 3 banger albums he doesn't have to do a fucking thing tbh. And it's that prying that's probably keeping him from releasing an album in the first place.

He doesn't owe us anything. Take and cherish the music we get. If I were in his shoes I probably wouldn't release anything under the name for a while... The jewelery I couldn't care less about. I hope he enjoys what he does and has a good time doing it.

@junyaiwase

Жыл бұрын

under the name you say

I think the jewellery line is a clear statement: “I can do whatever the fuck I want. Don’t expect anything from me.” Frankly (whoops), Frank has already put out a tonne of great music. Just enjoy that shit & let him get on with living in whatever way he wants, you don’t get a say in what he does

@thc_freebaser

Жыл бұрын

I mean yeah you can but don't say something like "you can't feel a label, you can't feel a box" then proceed to chase materialism as an outlet

@ForeverCacti

Жыл бұрын

Bro only has two albums LMFAO

@stevensanta5716

Жыл бұрын

@@thc_freebaser But at the same time, to chase materialism isn’t some foreign feeling to the average human, if he wishes to chase materialism then that shows once again that he’s just human, his hypocrisy shows that fact, and it’s up to us to bring him down from the pedestal of a god like status

@ironicgambino8987

Жыл бұрын

A ton of music? LOL OK.

@ndombele28

Жыл бұрын

@@ironicgambino8987 3 albums, a mixtape and like 10 singles

I think calling his jewelry line "merch for his fans" is misleading. It's really not. Especially when it comes to what fans think he "owes" them.

@yoengtreo3116

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Its a luxury brand Not Some stuff on merchbar Not for musicfans But jewellery fans

@miyahjackson6773

Жыл бұрын

it's like golf wang vs golf le fleur. one is merch and the other is a luxery brand. people have to learn how to differentiate them.

@camouflaging6090

Жыл бұрын

exactly

This isnt just a problem with frank ocean. So many artists who take a long time to release music are harassed by their fans. Its weird

Although I would love for another album. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't, and I don't blame him for it. Even though it might be a little frustrating realizing that he was going to release "Look at us, we're in love" in 2020. I think that the things he went through and the way many fans treated him when his brother passed away, or right now telling him that he doesn't care for us, it's just too selfish. He makes music because he wants to, and taking a break from things it's always good and I'm glad he's doing it, and even if he thinks that he's retired from music I would also completely understand it, it's like everything in life, he's a human and like us we get tired with our hobbies, our work, school, etc. It seems now that we're Deef Jam trying to slave frank into making music. I just wish him the best and be glad that he changed our lifes with his albums, i'll always be grateful for that

*From Frank Ocean's 2011 interview with MTV:* _What do you want people to know about you as an artist?_ "That, I don't know if it's about me, but I think just creativity in general, _just doing what you want is so important_ . You know, doing what you feel is right, and what connects with you is important, and I know that might be cliché´, trite, corny, sappy, whatever you wanna say. One of the coolest things I'm experiencing right now as far as people responding to the songs I wrote and what I decided to do is that _it really is me_ . So, when people are saying they fuckin with it, it's like, they fuckin with me, and that feels cool. [...] I mean, it's just crazy, man. It's cool, and I want people to know that I'll continue doing that, _no matter what the fuck they think I should make, I'll always make what I wanna make, and what I feel is the tightest shit_ ." kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yp2It7GOlrHNdcY.html

never clicked on a video so fast, thank you for speaking on this! i remember when his brother passed and i saw nothing but comments saying "oh man now we're never getting the album now" and "damn this album is about to be so sad". it's this gross intersection of entitled fans throwing a fit when their favorite artist isn't a machine churning out hits whenever they want, and trolls trying to get laughs and clout off of someone else's suffering - these people are not and never were real fans. genuinely great to see that after years of giving us beautiful projects and going through a horrible tragedy, it seems like he's in a good headspace

@kqjwhhsp1783

Жыл бұрын

Ewww those fans are so egoistic

I think some issues that arose is because since he doesn’t have a persona outside of his music, his fans only can cling to his music and not his personality

According to Frank's public statements, Homer might be where his heart has led him: an outlet to create material, luxury objects in a completely different market place to a completely different demographic. Sounds authentic, and nowhere in the marketing for Homer does it feel like these items are "for" fans of Frank Oceans music. But one perspective that seems to be lacking from the conversation is that Frank, being an independent artist, now requires independent funding. The creation, promotion, and touring process surrounding an album could cost millions. Not to mention paying the talent (didn't his producer sue him for millions for unpaid songwriting credits/dues? People know what Frank is worth now). A 25k c*** ring might get traffic to his website but it's more likely they find something else they like on the site that's an "affordable" 5k and that's what they checkout with. Sales baybee!

@AnotherVGMlover

Жыл бұрын

Source on frank being sued by his producer? This is my first time hearing about it and it sounds super uncharacteristic of frank as a musician

this was an excellent video thank you dev

Hi Dev! I couldn’t agree more that we could use a little more kindness and consideration especially with celebrities, artists and folks on social media. We forget that there is so much background information and context that we don’t know about a given person and their situation and YES they are people too. You are so wise to remind your viewers of that. Thanks for putting a positive message out there. It’s very much needed. Best wishes dear!

I dont understand how people can get this obsessed with a single artist. I was frustrated at some point waiting for kendrick to drop, but I just moved on listened to other people and was happy when he dropped.

loved this video!! fans emotional connections to works really seem to make them feel a sense of a ownership that they don't have, and frank doesn't owe us shit. the response after his brother died was so disgusting i wouldn't blame him if that made him never want to put out music again. i definitely hope that he does still release music, but let him take his time

Thanks for posting! :-)

You’re a great content creator. Keep it up you’re gonna get a big following!

Great video

Love your videos

great video.

It's horrible when artists whose work is as honest and personal as Frank's gets rushed by either fans or record labels. If the person always makes music about their expiriences, maybe let them expirience life enough to write good songs about it? Frank Ocean doesn't exist for his fans and isn't a vening machine of sad music. It's like Kendrick Lamar being pushed to make music and then getting shit on for not being what fans wanted

i'm gonna start supporting the jewelry business. hope the rings come in extra small

Please do a video on the Australian music scene!

This was a high quality take. Fans need to chill, they ask for new stuff the second something drops anyways but quality work takes a long time.

12:37 nice Chanel reference

fire video!

Thank you for this, because I feel that a lot of people has been very rude to him I think the most beautiful thing about being a real Frank fan is that his music is timeless, everytime I listen to it I find something new so I'm not really angry about him taking a rest, I know he is coming with something new and I'm happy that he's taking time because that only means that he wants it to be really good. So he can take all the time he wants, meanwhile I'll keep streaming all the music he has done.

it’s a little frustrating not hearing anything new for so long and i have mixed feelings being a non toxic loyal part of his fan base BUT at the end of the day i respect him and his own humanity first before anything else and he’s not entitled. and i hope he’s mentally loving his best life.

good video!

Yo, is that toe's "Goodbye" playing in the background from 2:19? That song is absolutely fire!

Thank you for this Dev. Really important perspective. He's my absolute favorite. I literally love the dude for what he's done for me. Why should I ask for more? I'm so grateful for the work he's put out. His soul is in his stuff -- that's why people resonate. Artistry is difficult to do because it's outsourcing emotion for all. He delivers every single time he performs. What else can we ask of just one person? His life, his freedom, is his own. If you really listen to Blonde and to his work, Frank has always been about freedom. He wants to do everything. He has a lust for life. Leave him be and he'll hand you diamonds -- but those take time

I tried to be perfect But nothing was worth it I don't believe it makes me real I thought it'd be easy But no one believes me I meant all the things I said If you believe it's in my soul I'd say all the words that I know Just to see if it would show That I'm trying to let you know That I'm better off on my own This place is so empty My thoughts are so tempting I don't know how it got so bad Sometimes, it's so crazy That nothing can save me But it's the only thing that I have If you believe it's in my soul I'd say all the words that I know Just to see if it would show That I'm trying to let you know That I'm better off on my own On my own! I tried to be perfect It just wasn't worth it Nothing could ever be so wrong It's hard to believe me It never gets easy I guess I knew that all along If you believe it's in my soul I'd say all the words that I know Just to see if it would show That I'm trying to let you know That I'm better off on my own.

one of your best videos yet!! frank is a trailblazer, he owes us nothing

2:30 wait is that sonny boy ost? I love that anime

While I see him as a human, I do agree people went too far with the brother death and see him as a product at the end of the day when they contrast his tragedies and the music he will make (if any). But at the same time, thanks for the very product he made early in his career, now he got a platform which yeah he is entitled to do what he wants, but yeah it annoys me when he uses that platform to promote his jewelry and things that frankly are overpriced and don't bring that much value to the target of his platform, alongside the 20k a c ring costs he should invest that on customer service.

thank you for this comment on the situation. it's so fucked up what people expect from artists these days.. Where is the Love?

If you get frustrated by the lack of new music from Frank, go listen to his song Orion. You’ll wonder how he’s been able to just get out of bed for the past two years. If I lost a younger sibling in such a tragic way I’m not sure if I could ever get past it, much less get in a studio and write music for people that don’t know or understand me. The line in Orion that really smacks is when he says, “If I could buy back the years, I’d empty my pockets here.” He didn’t realize just how prescient he was when he wrote those words. Demanding more than the magic he’s already given us just feels greedy at this point. I’m content accepting whatever Frank decides to share, even if he’s done sharing forever. And let’s be honest, his reclusiveness and dearth of music makes the arrival of new music that much better.

I agree

lmao you changed the title as i was looking at it

Holy shit was that the background music from the sonny boy ost???? in the part where you explain frank's history?

Excelent.

Another devvy levvy W

I bought two of the more affordable pieces from the Homer site and had no issues but idk if there’s more issues when trying to order the more expensive pieces

You're kinda like Fantano but way less snarky! Maybe start doing album reviews??

@vierbrandon

Жыл бұрын

Album reviews would be chill

@SisterSanMiguel

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see it

@tyburvandeezo8218

Жыл бұрын

@@SisterSanMiguel You don't see the bald head with glasses? I must have been hallucinating another one of those A.I generated Fantanos (because theneedlebot definitely wasn't a real thing that happened).

hey off topic , how do you edit your videos? to be specific how do you get the retro tv look when your show your monitor screen. do you have any good tutorials or assets? The yt tutorials I've found ain't that good

Anyone know where I can get that shirt?

Real question should be: do frank ocean fans care about him

i just want frank to be ok

Clicked on this video bc I love frank and then I realized it was Dev Lemons!!! Love your music!

what a cool shirt

i didn't know about the whole situation surrounding this artist but damn... at the end of the day, we all really should learn *_empathy_*

Great Video ! redact the twitter users name it could make ppl bully her

Nostalgia Ultra is enough for a lifetime of listening regardless of all the excellent points you made. He doesn’t owe us anything and I don’t care if he ever releases another album, that’s on his time ✨

not me freaking out about sonny boy rhapsody playing in the back

Good takes

ily lemonz

hey....wait a minute. is that song from the Sonny Boy anime? subbed.

I don't blame him at all for not releasing new music. I feel like people assume he's only a musician and can't explore other passions he may have. Sure he's more known for his music but that doesn't mean that's all he is good at. Same goes for Rihanna like I want another album from her really bad but the girl has other dreams outside of music and some people have to respect that.

Is that Leighton Meester

What's the song that starts playing at 2:20?

There is so much other music out there we have yet to discover, both old and new. Lets go find that instead of badgering out fav artists. Your new favorite song probably exists you just haven’t found it yet. Until then, just let the artists be

hi dev

Lemon Party

“Rent a supercar for a day” yep. through Allstate insurance

UNIQUE

every fan base has people that just aren't good people, the large majority of real frank fans genuinely just want frank to be happy, don't let a few shitty people be the image of the entire group of people

12:37 like chanel?

Awe man I love frank

as an Artist (painter) that really enjoys and feels franks music. I think it's a little concerning the fact he's not putting work out because that is the outlet for artists, especially if you are one of the few artists in an entertainer´s industry. I'm sure he's doing stuff. but exhibiting your issues in form of art is healthy.

Cause he just like me fr fr

Slick title change lol

"frank owes his fans music because he wouldn't be where he is without us" go touch grass babe

Gimme wat I want now!!!!!! Gimme gimme gimme!!!

12:36 like Chanel?

this is off topic but idk if it is bc i am high or is this t shirt so blue and pretty? i love it i could cry

the man gifted us two of the best albums ever made and countless other iconic releases in a 10 year window. every time he drops it changes the landscape of modern music. but even with that, his fans won't even treat him like a human or respect his process. the real question is do we even deserve an artist like frank ocean to begin with?? the $25k c*ck ring is frank taking the piss from people who would throw away everything he's done for an album they would listen through once

It’s extremely insensitive for fans to say Frank’s album is going to go hard because of a tragedy that’s happened to him. People can complain about not having new music but at the end of the day, Frank Ocean doesn’t owe his fans anything. Personally I want new music but I absolutely despise his fans that think they’re owed new music.

"before we get into the *MEAT* of it... I just wanna say that I'm a big fan of *FRANK* .... It holds such a *TENDER* place in my heart...." Starting us off with some savory puns there.

Honestly I personally take it a step further and think if he only decided he wanted to make jewelry from now on, that would be ok. He's probably focusing on Homer because he's interested in it, and I think that's pretty cool. I think the brand is super unique and interesting. It's expensive, but he has some more affordable pieces in the mix. My personal experience with Homer customer service was perfect too. Just seems like so many people feel entitled to his art, like.. why? If I were him I wouldn't even want to make another album.

@thc_freebaser

Жыл бұрын

bro wanted to sell me a rubber keychain of a pixelated dog for $40 before shipping and acts like he's not the materialistic one lol

Frank Ocean has been impactful enough for a hundred lifetimes. I hope there’s more music, I’m sure there will be, but if there’s not then so be it. Frank deserves to do whatever he wants forever, doesn’t owe anything to any of us.

I haven't thought about Frank in forever, just out of frustration really I obviously want more music, but I don't really need to feel invested in him, nor care, since he barely shares anything remotely personal other than some really expensive merch anyway and I don't feel like waiting Like, Idgaf about what nikes future projects are because that's just a brand made to make money, and that's what I feel Frank has become to me Not that I feel he owns me anything tho. Let him make his money and I'll just keep looking somewhere else

The kid on the last track on blond was he’s younger bother … sad

I think if frank wants to take a break from music and make jewelry that’s ok. Also I don’t care about the price. Tyler literally dose the same thing with the golf brand. It’s expensive because it’s rare and designer.

Frank

@lukelarabee5296

Жыл бұрын

controversial

Frank fans treat him like a god and a savior and its really concerning as hes human bruh dont treat him like hes not

@Giggumz

Жыл бұрын

@@yournamehere9282 i said nothing about his work being average please treat the man like a person as he is one

@AAA-bg6gm

Жыл бұрын

Frank dropped a $26k cock ring but he is not your savior.

@mutantaxolotl

Жыл бұрын

"i'm just a guy i'm not a god"

always based Dev

Ayy

franks

Frank will do what he wants when he wants to and as a friend I respect, I wouldn’t want something forced from him, I just want him to be happy

Hearing the jewelry story without having any knowledge about frank made me think he was a douche but this video changed my mind.

Homer is not Frank Ocean merch, it's luxury brand that makes high end jewelry.

It took you 6 years to release this video Dev are you kidding me this was suppose to drop 2 years ago

As soon as she confused Céline Dion with Anita Baker I ....

I feel like the ring is funny and deserved Like who’s gonna buy a 25,000 dollar pp ring?

Frank has given me enough, I don’t need anything from him!

I'LL TAKE 10! 😨😰🥵 Sorry I didn't watch vid yet. Judy was... Really... Interested.

Artists don’t owe their fans anything. If an artist puts something out that someone likes, that person can show their appreciation by supporting them. However, that in no way entitles anyone to expect anything from said creator, much less forcing them to creator when they don’t want to. Please reflect on your own entitlement when you start thinking that a complete stranger owes you their time and passion.

Dev, you're so freaking attractive.

It’s like he got slapped in the face by a label that doesn’t care about him and then on top of that his own fans are like “damn bruh you should go poop on a butt because you won’t make more music, lil silly lil guy that doesn’t wanna realest music like YOU MAKE MORE MUSIC RIGHT NOW. MAKE. MORE. MUSIC.” So yeah that actually seriously sucks you know, dev you take your time with your amazing music