Who remembers the free pit bike that was supposed to be made street legal?

Use a section from the bike frame. And fabricate it to fit with the existing axle. Dont try to move the axle. Fabricate it all to fit perfectly and keep the right stance. For the car.

@dylanfoster2823

5 жыл бұрын

Brandon Freese agree

Leave axle we’re it is and use bike frame for mounting the engine to the nascar. Holes in the correct places. Just figure out we’re you want it and weld 😉👌🏻👍✊

Got the same weder. Lasted me 3 years now and no problems yet. Only went through 1 tip.

@juniorfuller6829

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but arent the tips a commo n thing to break?

@hunterpetrovich1460

5 жыл бұрын

@@juniorfuller6829 yeah that's the point. I've only clogged up 1 tip in the 3 years I've had it.

@motomigsofficial

5 жыл бұрын

Ok that’s good to hear, I was kind of nervous about buying it, but I’m glad it’s been good for you, hopefully it will for me too!

@hunterpetrovich1460

5 жыл бұрын

@@motomigsofficial should be good for u. As long as you take care of it, it'll last forever. Built my first go kart with the thing, 3 years later I'm rebuilding it with the same welder. Good luck man

You should just drill some holes and lower the axle as much as you can cause you wouldn't have to waste time trying to fab up 2 axle mounts and it will compromise the beauty of the nascar Migs your the best bro just wanted to say that

My welding experience is with a stick welder, may years ago. From what I understand all welding needs a barrier material (It can be gas or a flux) to prevent porosity and weak welds. If your welder uses flux core wire, it is best to keep using flux wire. My research is very limited. Due to the nature of gasless welding, the lincon flux wire is less prone to porosity in the welds. A welder that uses gas tends to be less prone to porosity over gasless.

I have the same welding set up I HIGHLY recommended getting a auto darkening helmet and a brass or copper ground clamp it helps a lot!!!👌🏻

@grandleo81475

5 жыл бұрын

I agree with Kalen. Do yourself a huge favor and get a auto darkening helmet.

@williemakit8931

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to say your exact comment.

@thomasmcdougall8059

5 жыл бұрын

Bet you can't weld a sky hook

Love your videos! Keep up the good work!

Ive been stretching frames and building mini bikes for years now. Just cut the tube under the axle bracket and lower it where you want. Then bend some tubing around the bottom of the bracket and back up to the frame to reinforce it. Now that you have a welder you can make things fit. Get some scrap steel and practice welding start with something thicker get decent weld beeds and then start on the tubing. Practice on some scrap tubing after getting your parts cut out before welding then in. Good luck with the project. Its going to be sweet

Drill the brackets and if it doesn’t work make your own. That’s why you got the welder. It’s a good learning experience.

Miggs, don’t reinvent the wheel, so to speak. The CB750 frame has all the engine mounts on it. Cut the frame sides so you have all the engine mounting points. Measure the width of the engine at the mounts locations. Now cut some wood to be the same width as the engine and bolt the frame sides together. Add a wood piece to approximate the engine height at front mount. Maybe place one of the cut frame sides on the engine to measure the engine drop below the frame. Now you basically have an engine mock-up that weighs nothing and you can move it around and find the right location for the engine. And if you measured the engine width precisely you can weld the bike frame rails where they should be to place the engine where you want it. Your welder buddy may have some ideas on the best way to do that. Dan Theman is right, you will need a smaller axle sprocket to get some speed. Wish I could send you an Excel spread sheet I did detailing RPM, tire, ect. Dang I’m wordy today.... LoL PS: I’d start with a 2-stroke single as a first swap, maybe a 250cc. You’ve got all those bikes you could borrow an engine from, right?

Your channel is super under-rated,wish more people would watch

This is dope.

You could drill different holes in the axle brackets and frame brackets for mounting the axle to maximize lowering

Good job! Keep it up. 👍

@motomigsofficial

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Keep it up man!

Either use the bike frame or find tubing local. The scrap yard usually has tubing and plate steel, aluminum plate, angle iron.

@mjjr1000

5 жыл бұрын

Brandon Gillespie exactly what I suggested for frame as all mounts will be bang on.

i work in a welding shop and used a vulcan shield for 2 years now works just fine

Well done mate

You know man you are on the right track. In about 5 years if you stick with it you will probably be decent at this but right now you are lost but you did a good thing buying a welder and vise. Start practicing.

Also you would not be able to weld aluminum to steel

I had a welder like that in my shed and it was great, one thing I learned is it didn't work to its full potential because of all the drag from the extension cords going to the shed, run it off a main plug and it burns much hotter!!!!!!

If you put the axle underneath just weld some axle hangers right under the original ones and leave the original ones where they are so you can always put the axle in the original place if wanted.

Bro I love your vids

You are going to want to add another bearing on that axle around the chain no matter where you have the axle. As far as the tubes you have the bike the engine came out of cut the frame and weld that to the cart . It would be the easiest way to go about it. Also going to need to figure out a place for the radiator or some ductwork to get air to it as well as a fan. Ideally you would want the engine in front of the axle due to the chain maybe consider moving the firewall and seat up. I'm just making suggestions keep up the work though progress is the best.

I’m 12 and I just started welding with my dad and he was teaching me and I’ve only done it about 3 times for about 30minutes on a cheap harbor freight welder. it’s not hard it’s just you gotta practice and I’ve already started to get it now. Good luck and have fun :) and don’t forget that you can’t use brake cleaner then weld because it creates a deadly gas. And where something so the sparks can’t go into the back of your shirt Because that burns so bad...

Here’s what you should really do. Buy a complete small block 350 for like $300. Rebuild the hole thing for like $500 and buy a s10 conversion kit and v8 swap that thing.

@rickjames4630

5 жыл бұрын

His intelligence skills aren't to that level yet.

@zethloveless7238

5 жыл бұрын

You can v8 swap my s10 if ya want 🤷‍♂️.

@CoronaBRP

5 жыл бұрын

Intelligence skills? Lmfao

@rickjames4630

5 жыл бұрын

@@CoronaBRP Thats so fucking funny!.. LMFAO!!! HAHA

Nice vid man

1. Leave the axle at the setting at the end of your video. 2. My brother and I use the same welding set up and it has worked great including putting a Kawasaki KZ750 Twin on a racing go kart frame.

Wire wheel on a drill is needed for welding, cheap 15 bucks for 5 different sizes you can put in a drill. Corded drill at Wal-Mart 20 bucks works really well adjustable speed hyper tough I believe is the name.

The welding mask is a joke that comes with it! Get one that darkens once you start welding! You will find out!! Get Lincoln wire for it also! You will figure it out as you go! Very impressed with your progress!

Cut the frame where the axle mounts ,& slide it back in under the proposed engine mount in the middle of the chassis,but reinforce where the axle mounts were cut with the frame

leave the axle how it is and start practicing with the welder you should of started practicing weeks ago

take the whole axle out and clear up some space for an engine mount. and put the axle underneath the engine. thats what i would do to keep the center of gravity low. good luck

Leave it like it is

Leave the axle the way it is. The tire gap will look out of place, once you put the body on. The area where the axle currently is, looks like it would be good and strong for what you're trying to accomplish

Migs pal dont put it under or drill the bracket further up you’ll just make it weak and twist. Welding pal should sound like cooking bacon or tearing paper just practice like you say, some KZread vids on welding will help loads to get started. Welding is not to difficult once you find your own comfortable method. Just like with a women you need good penetration for a solid bond as one person told me lol. Builds going well pal , Rome wasn’t built in a day. Happy welding boss 👍🏻

I love the longer vids

Gets brand new welder "wow look at this cardboard"😂😂

Hey migs, be super careful using that cut-off wheel! My dad took an exploding cut-off wheel to the thigh and almost bled out :(

Ive got the 170 its been great had it around 4 years no problems

@motomigsofficial

5 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that, I hope mine lasts that long!

Make sure to keep most over the weight over or in front of the rear axel if you want the thing to steer at all.

upgrade your axle , bearings,brakes, etc. would recommend a jack-shaft to help with chain angles, keep engine low keep axle where its at. raising anything will change center of gravity in wrong way,

Man... I wish I could be there for you... I could teach you alot and show you how to weld like a pro. But I can't, so watch alot of youtube on the welding and use your head man... You got this....... Good luck. I'll be watching...

you should reinforce the frame if you are gunna put the powerful motor on.

Leave it like that much safer then trying to fab up something that will handle 100hp on your first time welding stiçk with getting bigger tires to give you a few inch in ride hieght over all . Another thing you run into is having the axle on bottom causes the axle to drag on a solid frame kart if you hit a bump or pothole or anything u risk damage to the sprocket brake disc and the axle itself

Would absolutely love to see u do mods on your truck. U would get alot of views all of the car vlogs get nice views so absolutely cant wait to see your truck get mods

Yooo you should start doing 2 shout outs a day and do it like things that were helpful and are helping along with the build 😊

G'day put the axle underneath , you going to need the clearance when you put the engine in , to keep the thing away from you and the exhaust from the ground.

I would love to see more truck videos

You can do more welding in your future I suggest you invest in a speed glass helmet

If you drop the rear axle it well throw off the frontend geometry. You should just go to lowes or ace an get 1inch schedule 40 pipe cheaper then dom tubing . An a cheap pipe bender at harbor freight .

Flip the axal to the underneath so u can weld the engine mounts to the frame

Buy a new live axle kit from Go Power Sports

@Miguel-jg1kq

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@chickensfloat7427

5 жыл бұрын

He needs a sponsor

@kriskoehnke3779

5 жыл бұрын

With pillow blocks**

@dylanfoster2823

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@bradyoakland9287

5 жыл бұрын

Why. What’s that solving

Don't use Lincoln flux wire there's not enough flux in it and makes it really hard to weld with instead get harbor freights flux wire for there Vulcan line it works really well and it doesn't stick at all I recently just went through a 10 lb roll and every weld was buttery smooth to lay and get .035 wire and some additional tips for that size of wire. I have been using harbor freight welders for 10 years building gokarts, mini bikes and small buggys just trying to help out and keep up with the great work!!!

If your going to try to lower the axel drill into the bracket you will screw the whole thing up if you try to weld your own thing because it’ll be your first time

I think getting that heavy engine as low as possible by dropping the axle is the lesser of two evils. You don't want that thing sitting up too high. Ditch the current bearing carriers and get a set of pillow blocks.

I have the 90 welder. Its ok for tacking. The 125 i hope it gets hotter for a better weld. Mine keeps tripping the breaker using a power strip.

@mcpeake78

5 жыл бұрын

@@karsongibbs9497 thats what i have mine in a 6 way.

I have the exact same set up (welder and cart) but the mask is a pain to use, I highly suggest that you get just a cheap harbor freight helmet with the auto activated darkness when your welding believe me you will want it in the middle of a build

leave axle as is build box section above that you will bolt engine to and a jack shift at rear as angle of flywheel on engine will block the chain from going to the sprocket also will mean ehaust sit higher and not drag the floor if all lines u the ehuast will run under the axle but above the frame

Never cheap out on a welding helmet. The cheap ones dont dim quick enough so over time you will go blind quicker. If you have the money i recommend speedglass but a Lincoln one would probably do too.

Cut the bottom part of the tubing from the axel and cut the welding for the support for the axel , make the u That you mentioned. And lower the position. Of the axel mounting and welded in place to be just closed the the chasis , if you put the axel below the chassis the ride high will be to much

If u move the axle under frame then the rear of frame will be higher then front and would ruin the stance if it, it’ll be harder to fabricate engine on top of axle but it’ll look well better and be much more worth it

Leave the rear axle alone Now go to the front and raise the front end you can always put a bigger tire underneath it to get more ride height with that big motor you're going to want more Tire under it anyway you don't want the axle underneath because you're exposing the chain to everything great billed by the way I'm actually following this pretty closely

Very good first welder the mask it comes with sucks but it is very good for a beginner for its price and accessibility

You have to cut the mounts off of greenwell them underneath

It will equal out by running it underneath. Leave a inch from under the frame so your axle does not rub.

When you start welding make sure you dont use a long extension cord, I have the same welder and it welds so much better being plugged directly to the outlet and not an extension cord. Just my opinion. Good job and keep up the good work

Leave the axle where is is, by moving it, you are changing the geometry of the entire cart, possibly causing some fitment or handling issues, not to mention the axle would then be exposed to debris that could bend or damage the components. Also you would have the drive system close to the ground and that could cause issues with the chain.

Definitely want to see the s-10 work

I wouldn’t lower axle at all, raises your center of gravity, and will make it look weird, nascars are supposed to be fast low and sleek, that’s why it was originally made so low

Welding cart is nice but with your little shop its just gunna take up space but good buy. And. You can get good welds with a 90 amp so ik the 125 should do better and get hotter use .35 wire. On about 4 and max and i get good welds its all about the prep work gotta grind off that metal. Everywhere ur gunna weld and go get the blue and black welding hood with the cupon and a few magnets. And it looks like you coyld move the axle down buy welding the bearing mounts lower. Instead of moving under the frame and having moster truck stance

U should upload every day

I’m pretty sure the axle adjusts like that so you can tighten or loosen the chain. That’s just my guess

Bro ..C-notch that frame,then tuvk in the axle underneath using the same brackets, in oder to use tge ajustable spacing

Mount behind axel and cut hole for motor to stick out of the body for carbs

I can't stress enough that Motors just too much for that frame by the time you hack it up it won't look nothing like it did honestly your best bet would be to get one of them Predator Motors at Harbor Freight and all the aftermarket stuff to go along with it still be very interesting to watch it go down though

Leave the axle where it's at every change you make will change the handling. Make those changes as you need to for handling. A fast motor is only good if you can control it. Good luck. It's nice to see you bought some tools. It was killing me watching you do some of the things you did to that motor you got lucky. Peace

Yes

Ive got the same welder n never had n issue other than replacing the gun/stinger end but that was my fualt... kind of melted it in a small fire lol

Don’t put the axel under the frame if your just starting to weld the power from a bigger motor will have a good chance of twisting off if you leave it on top maybe just brace your brackets more for the bigger motor

Will the engine fit under the Nascar body??

Don’t put the axle under the frame it will lift it up to much and the kart won’t be as stable at high speeds I would lower the axle at much as you can to the frame and then make a motor mount that goes over the axle and when you make your motor mounts make sure you put rubber bushings between the motor and the metal it will give the motor room to flex instead of bending your frame and it will make the ride a lot smoother 👍

Tube size id think you should go with 1” x .65 ( or .065) thick square tubing

Hi migs i think you should go with your gut and drill the existing brackets.also you should still invest in a quality welding helmet the lenses will be self tinting so you can see what your doing before you start and you will have a free hand as you wont be holding a crappy shield up to your face.

Imagine buying the cheapest welder avalible lol

@graysonbeene8990

5 жыл бұрын

Sky well when you are balling on a budget you have to not everyone has money like you obviously do so you need to shut your damn mouth because the cheapest welders sometimes does the best and not everyone can afford a good welder

@mjjr1000

5 жыл бұрын

Sky only a shit workman blames the tools. For welding light box section the welder will be fine no need to buy a snap on or Cebora simply not needed. Boy done good with cash he had once he’s got experience and welding thicker metals then he’ll need a welder with all the bells and whistles.

Drop the axel under the frame it’ll save so much more room an it’ll be worth it in the long run

Drilling the holes would help you but don't put the axle under it will make the steering camber off it will make it want to flip in corner

It's easy to move the axle it's just like installing a live axle

Leave the brackets like it is 🤘

drop the axle JUST under the frame like 1 inch or less! It will give more space for the engine and you can also get the engine as low as possible for a lower center of gravity. you want it to actually function and not just look cool.

S10 videos🤙🏼 and just leave the axle where it’s at and reinforce

Leave the axle.. maybe lower it the 1-1,5 inches. Keep up the good vids

Go power sports live axle kit !!! And a few gussets. That will put you in the game my brother

It’ll start looking really weird if you lower that axle too much. even if you adjust the front to match, when you put the shell on the tires will not sit right in the wheel wells. you could put bigger tires on it to reduce that but then you will probably run into clearance issues. I would just leave it how it is and build up a platform around it for the engine to sit on and attach to.

Hey keep the axle in that spot but make a raised engine plate

@Moto Migs those are call "mini cup" cars or "1/4 scale" used to race them

Motorcycle engines hang in there frames so keep your axle and build a frame over it and hang the engine

Only thing I recommend is eventually get a gas welder makes much better welds or a stick welder. And get a good helmet I had a cheap one from harbor freight and my eyes hurt after

Don't drop the axle cut the tubing in the middle and make it go around the axle and mount the motor to that