PREPARING The NasKart For it’s New ENGINE! I WILL Make This Work!
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Hey Guys, Migs Here! In today’s video, I begin preparing the half scale NASCAR for its new engine out of a 1980 Honda CB750c that we recently got running! I plan out all of the ways I want to mount to engine and the materials I will need to make this work, this engine will be swapped in no time! Thanks for Watching! Please Subscribe, Like, Comment and Tell Your Friends About the Channel!
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Please use steel plate not aluminum, I also agree with mounting the axle under the frame. But keep up the good work man your making progress.
@glynroberts3005
5 жыл бұрын
I think your have to move the axle back and lengthen the rear of the frame
@shanesgarage1105
5 жыл бұрын
@@glynroberts3005 the issue I see with that would be with the wheel base of the body and chassis not being the same. If it didnt have the body I would have also suggested that so the engine could sit in front of the axle.
@juice3906
5 жыл бұрын
Shane's Garage I suggested moving the axle.
Just cut the frame of the motorcycle and use the engine cradle frame to have all of the mounts for the motor and weld the engine cradle to the nascart frame
Cut the bike frame up and use the motor mounts
@mikeyboost4life69
5 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was going to say it would make things so much easier and if you weld it you know it's going to hold the motor how it needs to be
@MegaKencam
5 жыл бұрын
THIS!!!!!!!
Use the mounts off the motorcycle as a guide
Can't weld Aluminum to steel
@ThatMinecrafter
5 жыл бұрын
Matt Looney my best friend did it some how
@ThatMinecrafter
5 жыл бұрын
And he could bolt it on
@mattlooney5653
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah could bolt it but be better to use steel
@58apache
5 жыл бұрын
I came to say the same thing 😂
@thomasmcdougall8059
5 жыл бұрын
Correct you can't weld butter to toast this is the same concept
Aluminum not strong enough and more expensive
Make sure you Take into account the heat of the engine
Hey man I guarantee that frame is mild steel, you do NOT WANT TO USE ALUMINUM. Get your self a 100 dollar harbor freight welder and use thick steel, i could just see an aluminum engine plate cracking with that cb 750 lol
@shanesgarage1105
5 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same he should use steel
@dirtbikesrawseome
5 жыл бұрын
I have that welder best bang for your buck welds great just takes some practice.
@motomigsofficial
5 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks for the information, appreciate it!
get in contact with gopowersports they will tell you all the kits and hardware you need to run that engine and axle together ..
I wouldn't use plate under engine it need as much air as it can get to cool beside make it hard to change oil. Just my 2 cents
Come on get him to 100k
I did something similar to this but I cut the engine cradle off of the bike (the frame part that goes around the engine), that way you have the mounts and you can see how it will fit and you can weld it to the Kart's frame and for sure it will be strong enough to hold the motor. It was so much more easier that way...
Big Chew you've got there! Space, front to rear, up and down and left to right are tight here and there; 1) go ahead and cut the diagonal bar across the back- a place for it will be apparent when the engine is in the hole, 2) Think the commenter who said go with steel is on the right track, because it looks easiest to take the frame piece that unbolts and recreate it from the other side of the 750 frame, then use weld steel to secure it at the necessary height, 3) sounds like you've found your left-right answer. The next fiddly bit will be getting the power from the engine to the axel. If you stay with steel for all your frame parts, all your connections can either be bolted or welded to the NASKART frame. If you're not having fun, you are doing it wrong!
Get some pillow blocks and run the rear axle under the frame so you will have room for the engine and any fab work that needs to be done.
Kiss this cart good bye, she's gonna twist like a pretzel, But good luck and good job, I wouldnt take advice from your buddy If hes suggests using aluminum dumb answer right off the hop.
Can't weld aluminum to you're steel frame so you should get steel plates and on top of that you don't have to get aluminum welding wire either
Soon you will see “the nascart does wheelies!”
Remember that u still have to be able to put the body on👍🏻👍🏻
I think you should mount the axle under the frame because it’s going to give you more room to work with.
IMPORTANT REMINDER : Some engines are designed to run rotated forward x degrees like this /, You may need to check with your engine or it WILL cause it to oil starve and seize. !!
@Quinten0251
5 жыл бұрын
luke jacobs u are an boss
@bbroken1
5 жыл бұрын
It's a bike engine it should be fine
@lukejacobs2710
5 жыл бұрын
That means it's more important ! all 4 cylinder car engines i can think of run vertical our local university blew up multiple R6 engines on their student kart until they made a dry sump as they didn't realise. :/
@lukejacobs2710
5 жыл бұрын
@@Quinten0251 Not sure what your implying there buddy ( laughing emoji)
Why plate for engine mounting? Easier to add in tubes for frame (use the bike frame for tube and mounting points?) and heaps lighter than plate!
Hey Migs good luck on it all you really have a lot of determination
Aluminum is harder to weld and you need a tig welder
@that_red_dentside3968
5 жыл бұрын
Not true you can use a mig welder with 100% argon gas
@thomasmcdougall8059
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely think of a packed hash joint with no tobacco then flick it on your clothes this is what will happen you will blow holes right through
Good job man keep up the good work
Get a 170 amp or bigger welder from HF mig and flux capable and take your time learning so you dont have to do stuff twice and mess anything up. U got this bro.
Keep up the good work migs
I can't wait to see how you make that work keep up the good work 😁
Good work on the NASCAR
Keep going dude all the way from England
Check out grind hard plumbing company on youtube for ideas those guys are super creative
@joeychaput
5 жыл бұрын
There geniuses
Great video bro cant wait to see the nascar in action!!!!!
Last time I put a bike engine in a go kart , I cut the sub carriage from the motorcycle frame so I already had all my engine mounts.. pre-measured , I simply placed the carriage assembly in the location it needed to go and built gussets from the kart frame to the engine carriage ..once I liked the position I tacked it all in place ..now note that engine is about 68 horsepower and ,in the 60's the single overhead cam model was used to power a small Honda car called the Civic ..those engines were later used in dwarf car racing and the engine has a redline if 9.5 grand ..which is nearly double that of your grandpa's v8 ..the torque cure and power band ..on the 1/5th scale kart your playing with ,more closely resembles formula one ..and is ten times the power your kart has originally..I eventually cut down a rear end from a 76 chevette to place under the engine and transvert mounted the engine ..my little kart was reaching speeds of 125 mph .so be careful there kiddo ..that thing is a missile waiting to happen
Congratulations
You can get channel iron, or box tube with holes already in it for motor mounts. Better to make a mount via welding and then bolt it in for when you want to take the engine back out. The frame of the old bike would be perfect to make an engine mount for the cart and make some small mounts to bolt it to the frame of the nascart. Remember with an engine of this size air flow is important and you may have to add a fan with a fearing for fresh air once you put the body on the nascart. This engine will produce a lot of heat and it is designed to be in the wind on the bike.
You would save a lot fabrication time and keep it simple by cutting off and using the frame rails where the engine mounted in the motorcycle and using tubing to make standoffs from the motorcycle frame to the existing frame rail. No need for a jack shaft. Industrial sprockets are the same as 530 chain used on motorcycles and have an ID varying from 3/4" to 1 1/2 which should match the axle in the NasKart. Check out Big Nick the Great and the build he did with a motorcycle engine. He had some great ideas. Really enjoy watching this build. Looking forward to future videos. Also, please don't make the same mistake Vasily Custom Builds did and be sure to install an engine kill switch.
You should mount it in the front and get a couple 90 degree drive shaft gearboxes and mount that engine in the front and make it driveshaft to the rear then a sprocket to the axle
Use steel plate and box section to build your framework Migs. ( cut the bike frame for mounting points as they are bang on then weld/build your mounting frame off them ) That engine has lots of power and could possibly rip it’s mounts out using Ali. Also just a suggestion be add a bolt on bridge bar over the top so you can mount engine braces to the lump from the bar.
Good luck migs
Good to see you are using CAD (Cardboard Aided Design)
Hey migs i really love your videos im so inspierd by this mutch love from Finland (sorry for any typing mistakes)
Hello from australia .Good work i really enjoy your videos.i agree with other comments on not using aluminium i would be using mild steel it is alot easier to weld and cheaper than aluminium. Keep up the good work looking forward to the next video.
Most ppl have said the same thing, keep all steel, aluminium isn't strong enough. That and you can't weld alloy to steel. I suggest the motorcycle mounts etc it will save you a lot of issues and time, also put axle under that way the whole bay is clear to use, Will give you a slight light too.
Just weld the engine mount brackets,make them out of iron or steel and add some silent blocks to reduce vibrations, it's much easier to do than plate and you don't have to move anything
Good job tho your On the way to succeed👍
I love matching the nascar
Thats what your gonna do with that thing wtf!! Thats dope man!!
Can't wait to see how this goes! I hope you buy a good welder tho... I would suggest looking at the Vulcan mig Max 140. Harbor freight is a distributed for them
Might be easier stick the back axle underneath .👍
@bradyoakland9287
5 жыл бұрын
Bornonfire then the cart will be like 4” higher though
@jayvlogs5544
5 жыл бұрын
@@bradyoakland9287 he said he wanted the cart a little higher
@bradyoakland9287
5 жыл бұрын
lyric boxTV but does he really want it that much higher. The higher he goes the more unstable on corners with all that new weight
Get pillow blocks and put the axle under the frame rails
Stay away from aluminum, you have most everything you need, except the welder but you do not want to put that engine on a plate like a gocart engine , you need to hang it with the brackets off of the original frame, so cut up the frame and build on the cart frame using the tubes from the bike frame.
The naskart is gonna be nice
get the axel under it because a high mass being up is a big no no in taking turns, it will feel flimsy and easy to flip over
You better put a fan on top of the engine to keep it cool
God to ah mettal shop or weld shop. They might hawe what u need👍🏻
Make sure u leave enough room to move motor back and forth to be able to tighten chain
Your shed is getting small for all your projects.you need bigger garage my man👊💪👍
Your engine mount doesn’t have to be 20” long. Just has to be as long at your mounting studs. Waste of material to use all 20”. Love the cart though 👍🏻
@bradyoakland9287
5 жыл бұрын
Use 2” square bars and use them as two rails to mouth the engine to
why don't you put the rear axle go under the frame because you said you wanted to lift it a bit and it would lower the engine
Personally I think steel square tubing would be the easiest and strongest for the mounts instead of sheet metal
@juice3906
5 жыл бұрын
PitBike Amigos agreed
This thing is going to pop wheelies
Great videos dude continue the awesome job.Just my opinion but I think you should reconsider the weight of the engine and the place it is going to be mounted on.placing the engine right above the axel is going to affect the driving causing understeer because of too much weight to the rear.I suggest trying to locate the engine as close to the seat as possible or worst case senario rewelding the axel ferther back although this would make fitting the current body impossible
Cut the axle hangers and weld them to the bottom for higher ride height
Put the back axle under the frame and make some adjustments to make it work
Dang! No mount today! No metal either. Good luck, but you should really use a steel plate instead of aluminium. That's a heavy engine with a lot of horses!
Awesome build man! Slightly bigger wheels will raise it?!?!
Bru that clutch is so nice tho
gotta start somewere
Wish my race car was this easy
I would put the axel on the bottum of the frame cause you will get both room for the engin and engin space
Put the back axle under the Cage to raise the back
Please get that thing geared right. Stock sprockets are 15 x3 the front sprocket is 15 tooth and the rear is 45 teeth. That’s common stock. Changing the rear sprocket your not goin to change much. The front one is where your acceleration and power is and speed. Go less teeth on the front is more power but you gotta change gears fast. It’s a formula to work out. Great build miggs. Keep goin.
If possible, cut and relocate the rear axle to underneath the frame. The motor will be lower, mounted on a flat surface.
Maybe you could use the removable frame from the bike? And did you get an aluminum welder?
I hope you know that the engine you're jusing is air-cooled. And if you put that plexi window in, it won't get enough air to cool itself
Like I've already seen in the continents you should definitely cut up the bikes frame and use all the motor mounts you can even use the fuel tank and everythingit would definitely be the strongest and easiest way to do it
Can’t wait to see I agree with him👇🏻steel steel are you gonna put Hoosier slicks on it?!?!?
you have a aircoold motor .so dont block the airflow wit a plate of allu or steel . you beter use steel tubing more airflow .beter use parts of the motorcycle frame to bild the motor in
You should put silk on it and for back put some block on the axle bolt
Don't mount the motor to a plate. Make triangulated mounts welded to the frame with rubber or polyurethane bushings. This will equal less weight, and less vibration. Also, you should relocate the axel under the frame. That will get you the 5 inches you'll need for the top of the engine. Finally, you cannot weld aluminum to steel. Use 120 wall 1 inch square tube to make the mounts. Otherwise, you're off to a great start, and I'm dying to see this thing rip through some gears.
Use the frame from the bike to mount the motor in the nascart to save time and money for something that already works.
When you say it was running I wouldn't say 20 or 30 seconds is enough run time to be fully happy. It wasn't tested underload through all gears, clutch or even ran in a bit before it goes into the cart.
You should make more videos of the Baja 90cc atv
Dude I’m so courious for a top speed like if you are
@RowdyDB
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i cant wait for himto rip it in the streets or a track becuz his backyard too small lol
@lyndonwebber1389
5 жыл бұрын
Top speed 0 mph as he will be pushing it
The naskart is the coolest thing ever
Steel plate the way to go but up to you
Gussets are going to be your best friend with this build bro, go check out the ones on gopowersports, that’ll work better for you than just bar steel.
Use the old engine mounts from bike, will make your life a little bit easier :)
Or you can put a Yerf Dog rear swing arm in with shocks for better suspension and ride.
It doesn't have to be steal you just cant weld aluminum to steal but you can bolt it on which is what you will want but make sure to put some nylon washer or something between the aluminum and steal frame so it doesn't get any funny metal reactions
This is gonna be a dragster kart i hope u strengthen the frame
Use steel dude but awesome video
I don't really feel like that motor will work in that go kart but then again I'm insane so you do you lol
Put the axel underneath the frame and just make some brackets for that it would probably fix all of ur problems
Aluminum on a steel frame?
How is the engine going to coll down behind ther! It needs a lost of air....
Mount everything with steel no aluminum steel is much stronger than aluminum thats a lot of power to mount to aluminum what state are you in
You need to make sure that the body will still fit
Put the axel under the frame
Try GPS they should have some mounts I'm sure not the size you need but buy two and slap them together
Why don’t you cut it at both sides on the top and cut the lower and extended it with tubing so the motor will definitely fit & your head will be cleared and the engine will be fine put lil fire wall then rig up the sprockets jackshaft then you’ll be good to good... @ 7:11 above what you pointing at if you extended that with tubing you’ll be straight