What id like to see you do is a extreme high end aliexpress build. Basically the best performance you can get for a certain budget.

"A lot of you are watching this for entertainment". I have two now older but high end Ryzen systems and I love your videos because they are informative and show me alternatives to spending more than I can afford at times. Keep the awesome work going Phil, your great at teaching me about products I'm not aware of.

@aaronnoneya8071

4 жыл бұрын

I'm watching it so I don't have to waste money on Ryzen.. Have a i5 4670K currently and Xeon's are definitely the better value. Ryzen is almost kind of close but not close enough.

@alexsurber9404

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaronnoneya8071 That's a case of too much product and not enough demand lol, nonetheless the Ryzen's still have far newer accompanying specs (DDR4 and PCIe 4 to name a couple) that sweeten the deal for people who game.

@aaronnoneya8071

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexsurber9404 DDR4 isn't really even much faster then DDR3 and DDR3 always has much tighter timings.. Which makes the difference in ram speeds really not matter at all.

@aaronnoneya8071

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexsurber9404 also PCI E 4.0 is virtually useless and won't see even the slightest difference even with a RTX 2080 Ti

@alexsurber9404

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaronnoneya8071 Not "much" tighter, slightly if at all and extremely dependent on the quality of the DDR3 you buy. RAM speed is significant especially with Ryzen in question, it could make a Ryzen either significantly beat or slam an outdated Xeon through the floor seeing as it's tied to interconnect speed. So, it's absolutely relevant to any conversation regarding both, and regardless of anything else faster is faster. PCI-e x4.0 is quite useful if you utilize NVMe, but it's probably of no concern to someone who buys an outdated server part and motherboard for their daily driver anyways. Also, an upgrade path to a second gen 7nm CPU (Ryzen gen 4) is a pretty nice thing for a gamer when they creep down into the price point they want to purchase at. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYqFscpskt3Jf8Y.html The Shadow of the Tomb Raider bench is one of the best indicators of CPU performance and even a 2650v2 is significantly behind a second gen Ryzen, you'll be half as good as Ryzen gen 4 which a first gen Ryzen buyer would be able to slot in a couple of years without an entire system rebuild.

good thing you looked at the VRM, even more professional reviewers don't mention that while it's the most important part for overclocking.

@thefirehawk1495

4 жыл бұрын

In this case the VRM didn't matter at all because he didn't have the bios option to raise vcore xD

@virtualtools_3021

4 жыл бұрын

gameres nexus op

@anmc5315

4 жыл бұрын

Because any good non Chinese motherboard isn't going to have vrm issues with overclocking something like this to 4ghz.

@alextracythaxton5796

3 жыл бұрын

U sayin hes no professional? Jk

Finally the video I have been waiting for! 👍

You can solder a 10k ohm resistor between one of the chips and a ceramic cap and OC further. Got me to 4.2 on a 1620 0. This board also really likes PC3L RDIMMs. Got 24gb (sorta mismatched but performs fine) @2133mhz with 10-10-10-28 timings from 1333mhz 9-9-9-24 stock

@LordLab

5 жыл бұрын

how you over clock ram if bios have max 1866 ?

@pigdad

5 жыл бұрын

@@LordLab There's a couple bioses out there. One that just forces 1866 like the one Phil has shown, one let's you go up to 2133 and let's you play with the timings. Both are available on the Russian site E5450.

@wishusknight3009

5 жыл бұрын

@@LordLab Sometimes you can also just use the headroom to go for lower latency if it can be set. Either way can net you some performance. (speed arguably more though)

@LordLab

5 жыл бұрын

wishus knight in this boards no settings to change ram cL

@wishusknight3009

5 жыл бұрын

@@LordLab bummer. :( There is possibly SPD burning to pick different values.

This is the review I've been waiting for from you actually. Thank you Phil!

@philscomputerlab

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate the comment!

Another great video! It's important to look at these components from a global perspective like you do, for those without access. For the curious, at a similar clock speed (4.1ghz) my Ryzen 5 1600x completes cinebench R20 with a 3050 point score when running 3000mhz RAM at CL16.

@jb678901

4 жыл бұрын

E5-1660 ($110) at 4.4 GHz completes R15 with 1109 points. 32GB of 4 ch DDR3 EEC at 1600Mhz. Scored 2000 pts in R20.

@edzkar73

4 жыл бұрын

@@jb678901 E5-2689 (55$) at 2.6 ghz 16 gb DDR 3 eec 1600 . Scored 1990 in R20

@louistournas120

4 жыл бұрын

I have: Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6 GHz default, 8C16T 8 GB 3200 MHz CL16 (Setting to 3000 MHz give lowers points by 30 points, which is not a big deal). Cinebench R15 gives 1643 points Overclocking the CPU to 4.0 GHz gives 1765

@rodrigomendes3327

4 жыл бұрын

Its a great video, but Ryzen 1600 costing almost the same and b350 motherboards too. DDR4 is a little more expensive. So Ryzen 1600 is the good choice on Aliexpress. If people goes with Xeon, they should look for the more cheapest available. Same for X79 motherboard. Otherwise will be much smarter buying a Ryzen 1600 instead.

@hardergamer

4 жыл бұрын

I just put a very cheap E5-2690 v1 (£30) in my 8-year-old Gigabyte X79-UP4 board, 16gb of ram oc 2o @2000, with a small base clock overclock @106.2mhz, multi at x33, 3.5ghz on 8 cores, 4.1ghz on 1 core etc, CB20 3012, CB15 1376 zero bottleneck with an rx5700tx x2.

Best Budget Gaming Hardware Channel 😍

Great Vid as usual Phil. I have the exact same MB/CPU combo as my daily driver. I have tried the 4 core, 6 core, 8 core and 12 cores V2 Xeons. I think the 6 core is the sweet spot for all round use. Actually it is also used as a 3D Render Workstation, really what this platform was intended for. The real advantage to mention is the 40 PCI lanes direct to CPU. I'm running 4 GPUs...work out how I achieved that with only two 16x PCIe slots. I run the system hard at times, 100% load on the CPU and 4 GPUS (1500W PSU) for extended periods and it performs flawlessly. A lot of heat but I use water cooling. Now, here's the kicker. Because my use case is mostly GPU Compute, this system outperforms current gen systems in rendering and OpenCL compute at 5 times less the price.. Good buying! You know, it always makes me wonder why the average gamer spends so much on high end PC hardware just to game at frame rates that are just not needed. Sure, each to their own I guess.

@JD96893

5 жыл бұрын

Nice, I'd love to know just what your doing and how you managed that in your pc!

@UnknownS0und

4 жыл бұрын

@@JD96893 Nothing I can claim as novel. Just 2 x Radeon Pro Duos == 4 GPUs. Around the same compute (FP32) performance as 4 x 1080 TI's but within only two slots. www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-duo.c2828

Good review again Phil. I like that you Show the gameplay footage and not just graphs. Many who look at graphs are tempted to overpay for the hardware that is in the top. They will pay 3 times the amount for 200 fps, compared to 150 fps. Wasteful consumerism. 95+% of all gamers can perfectly live with what you have here... But they are marketed hypnotized by many other reviews, and the hype going on. 99+% people can't notice the difference between 150 and 200 fps anyway. It's just numbers. I think Only about one third of people can actually notice/feel the difference from 60hz (usable 60fps) to 120Hz(usable 120fps) But I'm sure the majority who can't are still brainwashed to think they can and want that 120/144 hz(fps). A/B "blind" tests have proved that several times ;) I also remember some comment I got on my add's where I have sold Xeon powered Gaming PC's ... Hey Xeon are server CPU.. Not for gaming. Funny when some 16 year old kid is trying to teach someone who has more computer experience years than the age of that kid :D I like that we can get new motherboard for the huge lefteover of the great S-2011 Xeon CPU from Ex-servers. It's, just sad that they have to be cheap chinese made. I wished the major brands would make new exclusive full X79 boards again.. But the problem is that Intel will not cooperate with that. They want to sell NEW chips. New (cheaper-made) chips for more money.

@kebabsaurusrex1601

4 жыл бұрын

^nailed it. People get obsessed with fps numbers

Very informative ! 😃 Fair pros and cons.👍

Some goold old Xeon madness.

Nice Video phil, gives a good overview on how good an unlocked processor can perform on such an old platform which is even relevant today!!!

wow, this is a great processor! i spent my afternoom watching your videos of various Xeons, but this one have less cores, but more clocks! and AC Odyssey handled pretty well, even some recent cpus get in the 45 fps at the most demanding areas.

Yes! I love these videos! Edit:i would like to tell you my parts came and the price to performance is great! I use a e5 2689 with this same motherboard.i might buy a cpu to overclock to see better performance i planning to get a e5 1680

Another great video Phil 👍

I love these videos. Just what I need.

Your video is very awesome. I'm really into the reusing of old serverhardware.. I think its pretty ingenious. You get very good value and performance, something I very much like and even more so it feels kinda special using stuff thats actually not supposed to be used for desktop stuff :D

Thanks for the review I actually built the exact system and i have to say i in love with this cpu

Great Video, Phil !

I've always admired RGIHD, BBO, TYC and LSG but with this one video you've become my favourite computer builder.

Thank you Phils!👍👍

I subscribed to your channel your content is amazing.

That's a really good GPU score in fire strike with a 6c12t Ivy Bridge chip. My Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB OC (1342MHz) gets a 15,600+ with the 8700K. So it definitely can run games. I'd like to see CRYSIS 3 run on the XEON, specifically the open feild sequence, when the game really hammers the CPU. It took my 5GHz 8700K up to 53% usage and on a ivy bridge 3770K i have clocked at 4.8GHz to almost 100% utilization.

@wishusknight3009

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, This system can hang with the best of them for certain.

These type of videos is the reason i subbed. Keep these videos coming!

@rustydust8648

5 жыл бұрын

Ya this videos r great

I just got a E5 1680 v2 . It's the 8 core version. I run on a OC of 4.6ghz and wow what a great CPU!

@iwinrar5207

3 жыл бұрын

Jeeze what did you pay?

Another great video, this is why I subbed and notice there are no dislikes, you know you're doing something good when that happens

@diygf9796

5 жыл бұрын

@MichaelKingsfordGray it doesn't mean that lol

Good work!! Nice video

I really cant explain why I love these custom feely Xeon stuff thingies so much. I remember buying that Xeon E3-1231V3 back in the days and feeling all smart about it for having such a good price value.. haha

@kfire69

4 жыл бұрын

you answered your own question :)

@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind

4 жыл бұрын

@@kfire69 it's the efficiency but it also feels special and unique. Almost like Lego for computers

The Best overclock vídeo. in Brazil a xeon kit from Aliexpress costs the price of a new motherboard and can be up to 3x cheaper depending on the model.

i just like kinda people as you cos is nice to see people look out for us all.stay safe watching now in 2021

literally started fist pumping when you said the 1650 v2 is fully unlocked. i have one laying around ive been saving for a project but the mobo doesnt support overclocking and i didnt know if it was because a xeon cpu or mobo. Thanks!

Phil, you're the coolest!

Located in the US and have a ton of DDR3 ram, with prices going up on DDR4 I think these systems still make sense. Currently have this board on the way from ebay for like $67 shipped and a e5 2650 v2 for $53 shipped. A good deal for sure but I never buy new stuff anymore. Pairing with a used RX 580 4gb I ordered for $75 shipped.

Nice! I've been contemplating getting a 1680v2 and a nice motherboard, getting a whole bunch of ECC memory and overclocking it to 4.5ghz +, but I think for the price I may as well just go for a 9900k, although 64gb+ of DDR4 non-ECC memory is extremely expensive compared to the equivalent of DDR3 ECC, so it's a tough choice. If the 1680v2 goes down to around £100/$120 in the next few months I'll jump on it.

NIce! I have a 16 core 32 thread system with 32gb of ram I've had since 2014, the performance is great for the money and I upgraded it to having a 1080 and 1070 tI nvidia graphics card

I got Dell Precision T3500 (X58 platform) from ebay for $100 and bought Xeon W3680 from Aliexpress for $45. I used throttlestop to OC it to 4.1 GHz (Stable P95/AIDA64) on all 6 cores. So For $145 + cost of Graphics Card I have a cheap gaming experience.

Fantastic stuff Phil! I would love to see you do a complete Aliexpress build, especially to see the price to performance. Keep up the great work.

With the new generation of Epyc, we will see a lot of used xeons on the market in the next years, those are going to be awesome!!!

@thomasschraubt7497

5 жыл бұрын

I am patiently waiting for those 2011-3 prices to come down :)

I ran one of these systems until 2020 and it was great!

It's March 2021 and I'm still running this processor in a HP Z420 with 32GB 1866 quad channel and an EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW3. It runs all the games I want, my latest being Control. I love this old platform. Totally reliable and overclocked to 4.1ghz all day.

Great video, thanks Phil. :) What I'm looking forwards to most of all in the coming months are prices tanking across the board for older X79 and X99 platforms, thanks to all the new Ryzen stuff we just got. I'd love to get my hands on some really cheap X79/X99 motherboards from the top brands, and make some awesome and cheap workstation builds with old Xeons and ECC memory. But yeah, for budget gaming in the next year or three, nothing is going to touch a Ryzen 1600 + decent GPU on a cheap B350 or B450 motherboard. The value there is outrageous, for real. Budget gaming has never been close to this good!

@philscomputerlab

4 жыл бұрын

We will be looking at Ryzen stuff soon!

I really enjoyed this video, and I wish I knew of these processors before I built my current system. Now I'm rocking 2x E5-2667v2, 128gb ram and a supermicro X9DRI-F motherboard. I know the asus z10pe-d8 which allows you to overclock dual CPUs. You can get this board in eBay for $150 usd, and the d16 has twice as many ram slots. 8 cores at 4.1ghz, dual CPUs would be insane. I'd love to see how modern ryzen would compare. If you're ever curious maybe you could test out that board! Love your channel so far, new subscriber. So many just review new stuff and I love it when I see someone take a look into the past and breathe life into old technology.

you should make a collab with "tech yes city", your channels are about the same things (and both from australia hehe)

@philscomputerlab

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I know Brian of course :D

@Brian-vz7xe

4 жыл бұрын

@@philscomputerlab Phil is there anywhere where you speak about the possible danger of chinese chips? I am sure you are aware about the possible spying. But that is Americans biggest fear, especially with Chinese evasive Credit score. And with that comes all their spying to make sure you don't talk against them. Huawei?

@LastExile1989

4 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-vz7xe K... Chill...

@gabrielius55

4 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-vz7xe that is what Donald Trump said and i dont know why anyone voted for such a stupid leader.

@HassaanALal

4 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-vz7xe what kind of pot is that?

U detailed the x79 board so well

I love the Xeonvideos. I got an E5649 on a X58 Board. Still a Beast and great for Overclocking. 4GHz are no Problem.

@snowsaysahhh3037

5 жыл бұрын

go for 4.5GHz till 1.45 Vcore is still save to use with good cooling

@aoelp

5 жыл бұрын

​@@snowsaysahhh3037 Yeah, you 're right. An X5650 of mine did not like 1.54V (for ~4.6 GHz (=209 MHz *22)) over longer time and degraded, but an X5675 much better binned does take "only" 1.44V for ~4.7 GHz (=204 MHz *23) with ~4.9 GHz (=204 MHz *24) boost and still runs fully stable and thanks to a 34€ second-hand NH-D14 and the solder beneath the heatspreader it does "only" hit 90 °C under full sustained load. But of course that is helped by the fact that AVX is unsupported, but SSE op to 4.2 will do most stuff. Also this is done on a 40€ mainboard (dirty and socket-damaged MSI X58 Pro-E, refurbished by me with a flat screwdriver and a brush with brake cleaner) that uses high QPI voltages of >1.45V, but I don't know why, but it needs it. Another Gigabyte board does 200 MHz BCLK with

@flotfriedmeisenmann768

5 жыл бұрын

@@snowsaysahhh3037 Its Watercooled ;)

@snowsaysahhh3037

5 жыл бұрын

@@aoelp exactly i had an x5670 was at 4.5 with 1.41Vcore only downside is literally the Ampere and Watts it pulls from your psu mine pulled in cb R15 about 210 watts that it tripped my overcurrent protection in my psu was fun had to Upgrade that psu then it was fine. Ur a German? lel :D

@Pasi123

4 жыл бұрын

I have a Xeon X5670 @ 4.4GHz with 1.375 Vcore

This is my daily driver still. While I don't have a motherboard that allows for overclocking, I am running it in an HP z620 which has quad channel RAM compatibility. I haven't seen quad channel on the Chinese boards, but it's cool that yours is.

love this guy.. always informative and interesting.. not a bag of trash like linux tech shitz.

R5 1600 is around $80 in AliExpress, pair that with a low end $50~ B350/450 mobo and you got yourself a good gaming PC with also a good upgrade path. Only do these old Xeon if you are REALLY REALLY tight on budget, because it has no upgrade path and the fact that Ryzens & DDR4 ram are getting cheaper and cheaper on AliExpress, the price difference isn't that big.

@Dan-TechAndMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Or just to mess with this platform. I plan on building a system with some of these old Xeon parts despite having a Ryzen 2600 build as my main PC. It's just fun to play with this once eye wateringly expensive stuff.

@user-kd4pg8hu7t

4 жыл бұрын

Sale prices for brand new R5 2600 are about the price of the Xeon tested, while the Ryzen has half the TDP and the upgrade path. It only lacks Win XP support (this is Phil's retro channel after all). I expected that old Xeon and second hand i7 series CPU should rapidly drop in price to stay competitive to the amazing value Ryzen offers, but it is not happening that fast. Ali and Ebay prices seem so inflated IMHO (just ran a quick search for Haswell consumer and server chips - it is insanely expensive).

@MrRourk

4 жыл бұрын

Hell ya! I was pricing Used Ryzen Pro 2400ge for a home server build. Not bad prices. Just need AsRock Pro board and ECC DDR4 2400mhz Ram.

@MrRourk

4 жыл бұрын

Why 2600? just get a 1800x. A x370 or B450 will overclock.

@mwnciboo

4 жыл бұрын

Or because you want a little Workstation with Quad channel Ram, an M.2 and shit load of cores. Not everything is about gaming but its nice if your 2nd machine can do a bit of gaming if you have a kid and want to give them a "My first gaming rig". I had a GTX960 going spare so i got a Xeon and made a mini-workstation. Suits my needs.

what i enjoyed, was that you ran the games on several resolutions.

I picked up a HP Z420 for $200. Came with Xeon 1650 v2, 32gb ddr3 1866mhz ram. I added some drives, a gtx1060 6gb and an extra 120mm workstation delta fan and its a pretty sweet machine for cheap. Using Intel XTU and Throttle Stop software combined it runs 4.3ghz rock solid bone stock but I did upgrade to the Cooler Master T4 cooler as its slightly better than the stock and is the only large after cooler I could find that fit in the stock case. Games quite well the gtx1060 usually maxes out well before the Xeon 1650v2.

Just came here to put a thumbs up w/o even having seen the video 😎 . Thank you Mr Phil!

Seeing your dude surrounded by zombies in Strange Brigade, throwing a grenade at his feet and then sprinting away like nothing happened really highlights how games these days are just super-easy fluff designed to FEEL challenging.

@laharl2k

4 жыл бұрын

games today arent made by programmers but by a group of psychologists and marketing people.

@TheHavocInferno

4 жыл бұрын

@@laharl2k uh huh, yeah no it doesn't work like that.

@laharl2k

4 жыл бұрын

TheHavocInferno tell that to all the loot bosex and "surprices" most aaa companies have added to their games.

@rennierrodil6119

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but no.

@alextracythaxton5796

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, older games were less graphically impressive but waaaaaay more fun. I dont get th he same feelin playing new games no soul in em.

Please be sure to follow up with Cinebench and Userbench score comparisons with equal value Ryzen systems. Plex Turbo, 1650 v2 with 16GB ram is at Aliexpress now for just over 200USD. Great video, thanks. I have a 1650 v2 with a Quadro M4000, for video editing and some scientific processing, works great. Wish my motherboard had NVME M.2 though. Tempted to just by the motherboard and swap out.

Nice selection, RedBull Ring :-)

please use cinebench r15 too please, many people cant really get a proper overview of performance.

@ 6:49 60C/120T, that's a bloody fantastic chip you got

@asdf-ni1jt

4 жыл бұрын

That's four of them XD

Using an EVGA X79 FTW i could only manage 4.2ghz out of a 1650 (not v2) with stock voltage and it also was a bit buggy with a very occasional BSOD so seems if the cheaper board is getting a similar limit (albeit on v2) then thats pretty good.

Aiming to build one for sure !!!

I'm in the states just watching for entertainment 😊

I have a HP Z420 I recently bought that came with a E5 1650 v2. With a GTX 1060 and 32 GB of RAM in quad channel it destroys every game I play. Pretty nice CPU.

@claritoresdiano1021

4 жыл бұрын

That's bad destroyed every games. Waaawww... you're so mad....

love your videos.sorry for the high price of pc part's where you are.

Built four of these Chinese X79 computers. Put together cheap. M.2 NVME boot drives. E5-2630v2, E5-2650v2, E5-2696v2, and E5-2680. Good Cinebench R23 scores.

Headed to Microcenter later today but I still enjoy watching what you're doing. Interesting to see this setup bottlenecking an RX580. I'd like to see an head to head against the Ryzen 1400.

I got a Xeon 1650 V0 paired with a GTX 960 and it works very well for me. Might upgrade gpu sometime in 2020 but get good performance

I have a xeon 5675 overclocked to 4.5 ghz on 1366 motherboard with 24 gig 1866 Mhz ddr3 ram and it is absolutely amazing. And I could easily overclock it to over 5 ghz! With a radeon Rx 580 8GB. It is like a new computer. These xeons are amazing!

Autumn of 2022: I am still gaming on a Xeon W3690 6C/12T from 2011. Packed on a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P mainboard with 3x 6GB RAM, a RTX 3060 and a Samsung EVO860 SSD. Runs like a charm

Awesome video! I have a 4c8t i7 3820 on x79 extreme 6 and my son has a e5-1620 on HP Z400 (so no overclock). Wondering what is best upgrade path for both? E5-1650/60 or go for E5-2687W or 2690 for 8C16T but lower core... I wonder if I can overclock the latter on my x79 rig.

ryzen ram tweaking: use DRAM Calculator for Ryzen from 1usmus, fast preset. in my case, beside dram voltage change, i had to change soc voltage and power down, disable gear down and bank group swap, and keep bgs alt enable. i think steven walton from hardware unboxed also had an instruction video on this memory timing tweak. the sweet spot for my 3200c16 corsair kit was 3400 14-18-19-28, after you choose your memory info and load xmp profile, you can try to change your desired frequency, and stop when the tCL is lowered, this is my own experience.

I'm from Brazil and these are worthy! one other to look is the e5-1660 (v1), it's half the price!

@galerinha

4 жыл бұрын

Eh entao. Eu acho que o v0 é mais negócio. Metade do preço por 15% a menos de desempenho. Preço é algo muito relevante nesse tipo de setup. Eu acho q o v2 é excessivamente caro por causa do número grande de vídeos a respeito/entusiastas procurando e pq 40 dólares é troco de bala nos países desenvolvidos

@DanielGT_93

4 жыл бұрын

@@galerinha V0 é o que eu chamei de V1 kkk é o sandy briedge. mas já tem pci-e 3.0 e tudo. excelente

@galerinha

4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielGT_93 eu sei só estava concordando kk comprei ele hoje no aliexpress mas so chega la pra julho

Can you raise the voltage with techpowerup throttlestop? I overclocked a Core 2 Extreme X9000 with voltage increases on a Dell d630 so you can give that a shot?

Phil! I am in the process of building the same system with 64Gb of ECC Samsung RAM. This video has been a huge help! What GPU should I consider using to avoid a bottleneck without going overboard? I have an RTX 2060 but that seems like overkill for this build.

Great video by the way, I would like to see a video upgrading the hp prodesk 600 g1

@philscomputerlab

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, well it's my permanent capture PC now, so hard for me to use it in a video :D

@theepicemoji5602

4 жыл бұрын

@@philscomputerlab it's a great PC, I have one with a 4th gen i5 and a GTX 1650

Over the last few months some of these unlocked XEONs have come down in price. I picked up on a local purchase an E5-1650V2 for only $60. From a US eBay seller, an E5-1680V2 for $155. Pretty decent performance for the money, IMO.

Self-assembled computers on this platform are popular in Russia. It is necessary to flash the BIOS and make a voltmod of the motherboard, in this case, normal overclocking of RAM and CPU will become possible. In my case, the E5 1650 V2 processor works stably at a frequency of 4.3 GHz, and RAM at a frequency of 1866 MHz with low latencies, if the Chinese crooks did not flash RAM, then it would be possible to work stably at a frequency of up to 2133 MHz. By the way, you also have acquired poor RAM, the true frequency for which the chips are designed can be viewed on the datasheet, the markings can be seen by removing the radiators.

I ended up with a P9X79Pro that I purchased in a package locally (p9X79Pro + i73820 + 32 GB Hyper Fury 1600 DDR3 + CoolerMaster Tower Cooler, all for $220). The motherboard is in great condition. Paired with with my E5-1650V2 and what a difference. CB R15 goes to 1140 with GTX980OC and CPU at 4.5GHz. Temps...INTEL burntest to 71C, but usually stay mid 60's at 100% loads. Gaming temps are fine. PerformanceTest64 has CPU = 15826. If I priced the DDR3 at around $100, the i7 for about $70, and the CoolerMaster for about $30...the motherboard cost me about $20!!!!!!!!

doing further research i compared this chip to a ryzen 5 3600...the only advantage the xeon has is the number of PCI lanes..but they are Gen 3 whereas the ryzen is gen 4...the ryzen also kills it when it comes to L3 cache..the ryzen having 32MB the Xeon only 12MB. i state these figures because they were not mentioned in the video. on Ebay i only found a few of these Xeons for under a 100 bucks..and of course the 3600 is 200 bucks...im not sure if any Xeon made can match or beat the 3600..for 200 dollars..so as i see it i wouldnt buy these xeons unless I found one or more for around 50 dollars. that said..very nice video Phil, your one of my favorite tech you tubers and i believe you go out of your way to bring high quality content no matter what genre of PC hardware...

@thomasschraubt7497

5 жыл бұрын

most xeon buyers go for the 2689 for 50$ that has been shown in another video and is great value, especially when the bank's empty :) third gen ryzen is a completely different price segment

@dycedargselderbrother5353

5 жыл бұрын

Value is still questionable vs. 1st gen Ryzen, though. Cheap motherboards really make for a good value proposition.

Just got a E5-1650 v2, 16 gb 1866 Ram 4x 4 Quad Channel, and the plexhd Turbo for $215!!!! FYI I did some deal hunting you will probably pay more. WOOOO!!!!

I wanted to get some feedback on the noise level of the rx580 at default fan curve if you get a chance to include next time you run a bench. Just my own reference as I notice that my card (same as yours) gets a little loud after about 15mins when it hits around the 70 degree mark. Another great vid 👍 thanks Phil

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

I undervolt my card a bit, so that helps!

@FunkCakes

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too by about 10mv. I can undervolt by 100mv but occasionally wattman would reset the settings to default so I guess it was way too low but I don’t have any issues regardless . I just wanted to compare to identify if the Armour series had a common theme where the fans were slightly louder than the other series within the same model card.

the 16XX-V2 series will support memory higher than 1866. I recently went from an E5-2690 (SB-EP) that was limited to 1600, to an E5-1680-V2 that I am running the memory at 2133 CL9-11-10-27-54-2t. So far I've clocked the 1680-V2 to 4.7GHz all-core, but my goal is to hit 5GHz+ on it. Of course, my advantage is that I am running it on the EVGA X79 DARK. The older XEON's are now becoming much more viable price wise, when compared to their i7 counterparts. As for the X79 platform, the E5-1680-v2 is really the ultimate CPU. Though to unlock it's full potential, a high end MB is a must.

@smbu

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it can go higher just fine. I have my Corsair Vengeance Pro running at the default XMP of 2400MHz CL11 (8 x 8GB) just fine with my 1680 V2. Haven't tried to adjust the timings or anything on it with my Asus X79 Deluxe.

@mattsmechanicalssi5833

5 жыл бұрын

@@smbu Yeah mine was XMP as well, on DominatorGT (8x4GB). I haven't had much time to do any proper overclocking, cause I'm super busy with work this time of year. That was just a quick multiplier/voltage OC. Haven't even delved in to the VRM frequency, RAM timings, BCLK, etc yet. I know it can handle a strapped 125MHz BCLK with a lower multiplier, as I've seen many CPU-z screenshots indicate. I am on a large custom loop, so temps won't be an issue either.

Hey phil did you get that colorful mobo? When can we expect a review?

Hey Phil, Unrelated to video but have you ever used Bootit Bare Metal. It looks like a promising boot manager and partitioner. I haven’t picked it up yet and didn’t see it or an older version covered in a good video anywhere.

Nice video

i love to see what you think of vista basic as a gaming platform. i know its hated but it has potential.

Those cuts in your knuckles at the 20 minute or so mark are familiar. I got mine installing a heatsink on this LGA775 system I got on the cheap.

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

Yea, that was the last time I tried to review a case :D Open test bench FTW.

awwe year its friday again!

Could you make some comparison tests with high cores CPUs with HT disabled?

Can you try the E5 2667? It should be relatively cheap now along with the E5 2689

i have this in my secondary budged gaming pc .... overclocked without any other values changed to allcore turbo 4,2 Ghz in a chinese mainboard ! works absolutely fine only thing is the non support of quad channel ram with this board :(

e5 2689 better or e5 1650 v2? If not, is there anything better than e5 2689, around the same price range? Thanks Phil,

For ryzen 3000 videos tweak memory timings they seem to have better effect on gaming rather than just increasing the memory speed and the fclock

Woow... Tell mee.. have you run benchmark and make a comparison with lates amd ryzen or inter icore? And this build similiar with what amd ryzen or intel icore?

I got my Xeon's overclocked to 4.6 GHz on an EVGA SR2 motherboard, and it's still ass-kicking even by today's standards

Phil, one thing to remember about Amazon & Australian users - Amazon disables shipping to Australian addresses and PO Boxes unless you're buying from Amazon Australia and *only* Amazon Australia. Like if you try to make an order from Amazon US to be shipped to an Australian address, you will *not* be able to finish the order without changing the shipping address to one outside of Australia If you find a deal on some other version of Amazon like Amazon US or Japan, you better hope you have a friend in that country (or at least a friend in the US) who can act as the relay between Amazon and you as an Australian, by shipping the order to them and having them ship it on over to you.

@philscomputerlab

5 жыл бұрын

Yea I bought from Amazon AU store I believe! Got some RAM, CPU coolers, Thermal Pads, so that worked quite well.

After watching this vid, which i found really informative and wanted to get into, i found and bought on 2nd hand p9x79 asus mobo coupled with i7 3820 for a really good price. Ordered 1650v2 from ebay and 1866 samsung 16gb ecc reg mem (4x4). Sadly i found out the mem does not work for me and on on alot of x79 desktop mobos, even when coupled with xeon. u said that ppl can buy those mobos instead of ali express chinese mobo if they find it for a good price, but in that case, they cant use ecc reg mem, u should state that . i feel i got mislead and now need to buy unreg mem or chinese mobo now, else i cant use the reg ecc mem i bought. U need a server ir workstation mobo for that.

An ALL Ali Express build, including even the case, PSU and GPU would be awesome!

@tgdhsuk3589

4 жыл бұрын

build a case from scrap wood

Hello sir. Your channel is producing what the low budget audience wants nowadays and i absolutely love it. i have two questions tho: 1: Which capture card are you using? 2: Does the chinese NVME ssd has a decent performance? And last thing is a bit of a request from me. Can you review the intel xeon E5-2690? Regards

Really nice. I thought about getting one of these boards but didn't know if they were good or not. Also, what CPUs does this board support?

@philscomputerlab

4 жыл бұрын

There is no CPU support list, but look at my recent videos, it shows a few CPUs in action. The 26xx V1 and V2 series should all work.

I would like to see a how to and demonstration of modding the PlexHD bios. Thanks.

love your videos can you do one modifying the bios please