Using X58 / LGA 1366 in 2020

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  • @StevenOBrien
    @StevenOBrien3 жыл бұрын

    Welp, you know it's time to upgrade when your day-to-day work/gaming PC shows up on a retro gaming channel. :)

  • @ztechrepairs

    @ztechrepairs

    3 жыл бұрын

    oof I use an i7 950 with 24 GB of DDR3 10600 Mememory. Still works fine. I use a GT 1030 OC Passive graphics card. It works fine although I would like to upgrade the graphics card.

  • @amdintelxsniperx

    @amdintelxsniperx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ztechrepairs grab a 960 or 970 cpu honest the 6 cores 12 thread make a huge difference . Westmere and gulf are leaks better then base nehal

  • @LordPhan

    @LordPhan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ztechrepairs A GTX 280 from 2008 is more powerful than a GT 1030 to put that in perspective for you. You could be playing games with great graphics with even a RX 570.

  • @GraueWoelfe

    @GraueWoelfe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LordPhan that is not true. gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GT-1030-vs-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-280/m283726vsm8413

  • @andremesq

    @andremesq

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amdintelxsniperx Forget about the I7's for that platform. The real cost benefit is on the xeons, mainly the w3670 or the x5675, which are also 6t 12c that you can clock over 4Ghz on a good board and they cost only about $30. I just finished building a machine with a w3670 and it performs very nicely still, but you need to get a "real" x58 board with triple channel memory and some overclock capabilities.

  • @mfrg3
    @mfrg33 жыл бұрын

    X58 is an amazing chipset that has aged very well. I'm running a Dell Precision T3500 with an X5675 and an RTX 2060, it runs modern games quite good for having a build date of 2011.

  • @jb678901

    @jb678901

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the Dell Precision T5600 (C602), which I got for free in my company's decommissioning program about 2 years ago, including an old SSD, 8x4GB DDR3 REEC 1600, and a OEM modular 825W PSU. I upgraded to dual E5-2689 from dual E5-2667, threw in a GTX 970 and better SSD for the OS...and voila...runs like a champ. However, I wouldn't invest in a GPU above GTX 1070, or equivalent AMD (e.g. RX 480/580 8GB). These DELL PRECISIONs can be had for cheap locally, especially when companies decommission desktop servers. An Ivy Bridge or possibly Haswell (T3610/5610) version being preferred (with the AVX instruction set plus USB 3.0), IMO. DELL BIOS is locked, so staying with higher core count and highest base/turbo clock CPU's is also the way to go. They are very business looking, so no RGB bling. However, I did buy some 3D Carbon Vinyl sheeting (used for car exteriors) and added to the side panel as an accent. Made the box a bit more appealing for the home environment.

  • @aceoyame2619

    @aceoyame2619

    3 жыл бұрын

    Guess that confirms turing support as well with x58? I'm guessing uefi bios support was the limiting factor with the rx5800. I knew pascal worked fine

  • @mistergameplay9766

    @mistergameplay9766

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jb678901 damn you lucky

  • @jb678901

    @jb678901

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mistergameplay9766 It was my office PC, but it died (bad I/O ports) and was no longer supported. These stations used to be used by our developers up until a few years prior and had been repurposed for the HQ. We had another T5600 in the lab refuse bin that died for another reason (it already had been partially stripped of parts). I swapped out motherboards to my old PC and was able to resurrect a working PC during a late evening. However, our IT would no longer support it as I had already been set up with my labtop to a desk docking station. I asked if I could buy it for my home (it was already fully depreciated), so my boss (CEO) kindly said...just take it home. I was even able to take from the bin the spare 825W PSU and the two spare OEM fans. Most of the time, when such HW is decommissioned, we simply gift (absent storage devices) to a Charity that repurposes the desktop server HW for personal home uses. In order to reduce e-waste.

  • @danekunderhill4812

    @danekunderhill4812

    3 жыл бұрын

    I run X5675 and 2080ti. Mfs2020 4k ultra 44fps

  • @hateWinVista
    @hateWinVista3 жыл бұрын

    They finally put a fan onto the chipset heatsink! The heat output from X58 is no joke and tiny heatsinks just won't cut it.

  • @aceoyame2619

    @aceoyame2619

    3 жыл бұрын

    Think that's bad, try cooling essentially two of them. My server board has two chipsets

  • @VikingDudee

    @VikingDudee

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aceoyame2619 Ha, yeah my LGA1356 server is a bit toasty, I had to add additional fans to help cool both the chipsets I would imagine 1366 stuff would be fun.

  • @AC-io8qs
    @AC-io8qs3 жыл бұрын

    I used an X58 platform as my main rig until earlier this year. Started in life with an i7 920, GTX 285, and 6GB. Ended with a X5675 @ 4.6GHz, an RX 580 8GB, and 12GB. The X5675 is an amazing overclocker on the P6T DV2. If you can snag that board for a retro rig I recommend going for it. I put GTX 285's in SLI back in for a lovely Win7 retro machine. Attained the #1 Time Spy slot for that set of hardware (RX 580).

  • @L337f33t
    @L337f33t3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao it’s funny this shows up in my feed. I just found an i7-990x in the middle corn country IOWA!!!! The guy sold it with a Gigabyte G1 sniper board and 24gb of Corsair vengeance for $100!!!

  • @__oK__

    @__oK__

    3 жыл бұрын

    You were lucky.

  • @therealfirstone
    @therealfirstone3 жыл бұрын

    I still run my old x58 with an i7 950 from 8 or 9 years ago. Thanks for sharing.

  • @panossagonas9512
    @panossagonas95123 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much Phil for comparing the 2 platforms which i asked in your previous video i got x79 combo with e5 1650 ( hope i can oc in this cheap mobo till 4Ghz ) with 16gb ram for 110 dollars . Keep up the good work m8 . Have a nice day :)

  • @LeeMc007
    @LeeMc0073 жыл бұрын

    Built one of these last year for my stepson , had a gigabyte x58 board , 12gb of ddr3 and an i920 in the loft from yeeeeaaars ago , put a 5670 in it and watercooled the whole thing using a load of old cooling stuff I also had in the loft , put my 980ti with waterblock in it from a recent full PC upgrade , 5670 runs at 4.6ghz @1.375v and it plays everything beautifully on his 1080p monitor , only cost me an EVGA 550w power supply £36 , a Deepcool case £40 and the 5670 was £9 (lol) from ebay. He absolutely loves it. X58 still going strong over 10 years later. Great Video , love your channel and content , superb ! :)

  • @stebo85uk
    @stebo85uk3 жыл бұрын

    your videos are so helpful, thanks man!

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @rootbeer666
    @rootbeer6663 жыл бұрын

    Use it every day for the last 9 years. What a machine! I've got a W3680 in there paired with 24GB on the three channels.

  • @samsonsanthosh
    @samsonsanthosh3 жыл бұрын

    amazing video man been waiting for this for soo long

  • @ricardobornman1698
    @ricardobornman16983 жыл бұрын

    Very nice use of old resources. Makes for a cool cheap gaming rig.

  • @juanenrique434
    @juanenrique4343 жыл бұрын

    thanks for this kind of content man

  • @pedrowelldantas
    @pedrowelldantas3 жыл бұрын

    Very clear and honest review! Really thank you.. i'll buy this mobo right now ♥

  • @LiLBitsDK
    @LiLBitsDK3 жыл бұрын

    All these people thinking they need a 3090 to get high fps :D yes this is mostly older games but even newer games with minor tweaking will run very well on even an RX580 in 1080p (which most runs at anyways) these videos just prove that you can have lots of great high fps fun with older and cheaper stuff

  • @vicchopin
    @vicchopin3 жыл бұрын

    amazing! I knew I had like this vid phil! thank you so much bringing all these aliexpress contents (did a pc build last year thanks to your tips) when there's a huge sale there aaaaand I'm all outta money :(

  • @flygger6250
    @flygger62503 жыл бұрын

    Lovely Vid Phil. This looks like a easy windows XP PC bundle. Ryzen has really made a big splash in the tech world.

  • @carlolalattacosterbosa5821
    @carlolalattacosterbosa58213 жыл бұрын

    really nice review as always... thanks for the pcie ssd boot!

  • @manaphylv100
    @manaphylv1003 жыл бұрын

    The LGA 1366 platform has definitely had its time, and should be put to rest now. The LGA 2011 platform has more modern features for not much more money, and even if you are on an extremely limited budget, there's the E5-2609 for under $5 to get you started. Another alternative for those who have access to cheap DDR4 RAM is a secondhand Z170 board and one of the Skylake A0 engineering samples (QH73/8E/8F/8G), which cost next to nothing now. You can flash an old BIOS to overclock them via the FSB/BCLK, and most should reach 3.6 GHz pretty easily. For gaming, it beats all of the old Xeons.

  • @GamersOrb

    @GamersOrb

    3 жыл бұрын

    No rest bruh! doing 1440p gaming with 1070ti, check my videos.

  • @delukard07

    @delukard07

    3 жыл бұрын

    ty for teh tip. im looking to build a streaming pc for my daughter and i;; check those cpus.

  • @belther7

    @belther7

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a E5-2620 and a E5-2689, the 2689 is a beast! both with RX570 My main pc have a Ryzen 5 1600AF with a RX580

  • @formdoggie5

    @formdoggie5

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...my old xeons hit 4.6 to 4.9 3.6 aint close and especially with triple channel memory advantage lol

  • @manaphylv100

    @manaphylv100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@formdoggie5 There's something called IPC. Clock speed alone means nothing. Just look at the 5 GHz AMD FX-9590: it loses to any relatively modern CPU at half the clock speed.

  • @blackops320
    @blackops3203 жыл бұрын

    Built so many x58 for my buddies because of this channel. Might hop to x79 soon.

  • @andremesq

    @andremesq

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you can find good deals on boards, you won't regret it.

  • @zankellner150
    @zankellner1503 жыл бұрын

    if you are buying on a budget, definitely buy lga 1356 bundles. I have got mine for 50€ with shipping and 20€ customs. 2420 v2 with 8gb ddr3 ecc with mobo that supports m.2 drives. This CPU even runs original crysis at over 60 fps! I was pleasently surprised at how good it runs all games. Nice video Phil, keep them going!

  • @spacecy
    @spacecy3 жыл бұрын

    Impressive performance from such an old platform! Good job.

  • @EmmanuelAU03
    @EmmanuelAU033 жыл бұрын

    Good video as always man :)

  • @sam_h
    @sam_h3 жыл бұрын

    Was waiting for this one:)

  • @chu-icehugehard1820
    @chu-icehugehard18203 жыл бұрын

    It's possible to get a M.2 NVMe SSD to work as a boot drive on this mainboard. You can use Clover (a boot manager usually for Hackintosh, but it can also emulate UEFI environment on older boards) and load NVMe drivers. There are some tutorials about it on PCbeta (Chinese). Another way is to find a NVMe drive with legacy option ROM, such as Samsung PM963. Have a nice weekend👍

  • @oscarc6210
    @oscarc62103 жыл бұрын

    I've loved to see a RX580 hard working part with Flight Simulator. Awesome Polaris chip. I had a pair of Sapphire Nitro RX480 8Gb back in the day but I sold them in the mining fever times, haha.

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith3 жыл бұрын

    CryTek hasn't optimized CryEngine properly since CryEngine 3, leading to the Crysis Remaster having the exact same performance problems the original had, just running on newer technology. 🤷

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    So I believe I had Raytracing also active LOL I only realised afterwards.

  • @KiraSlith

    @KiraSlith

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philscomputerlab Raytracing can't be enabled on non-RTX cards, it'll just error out or crash. It's just poorly optimized, the same complaints have been cropping up on forums all over the place.

  • @roboticus71

    @roboticus71

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the aircraft carrier stage will crash a lot again.

  • @HD-dp1pr

    @HD-dp1pr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KiraSlith really I heard the PS4 and Xbox one x can run this game with a little bit of ray tracing

  • @KiraSlith

    @KiraSlith

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HD-dp1pr Yeah, SVOGI. its more efficient than Nvidia's RTX raytracing and (IMO) looks just as good, CryTek had the first engine implementation in CryEngine 3.8.3 in 2015, which ran pretty well on a GTX 980. No clue why other game engines haven't been able to get it working right since then though.

  • @Mani-aX
    @Mani-aX3 жыл бұрын

    so i have the ASUS x58 series board with an intel 930 - nVidia 680 GTX - 24GB ram - an original machine i built. Love that setup and will keep it until it dies lol. great vid!

  • @explorer9049
    @explorer90493 жыл бұрын

    this thing still has a northbridge people, that should show how old this platform really is... "yeah i know they integrated the northbridge in the processors now"

  • @josebonilla101
    @josebonilla1013 жыл бұрын

    The reason NVMe works on X79 but not on X58 is that it needs an EFI with the appropriate driver on it. Legacy BIOS will never be able to boot from NVMe. However, you should still be able to use NVMe SSDs as storage devices in Windows just fine. I've had X58, X79 and X99. Out of all three, X58 is the most fun to OC, but X79 gives the best balance between cost and performance. Sandy Bridge was really a performance leap (the biggest we've seen so far), and Westmere, while more than decent for its time, will still hit the same blocks as s775 did, especially since it lacks many instructions (especially AVX). And, while i'm not sure with cheap chinese mobos, but with decently high-end mobos you could mod the EFI to do all sort of modern stuff, especially have your mobo support PCI-E lane bifurcation (especially useful to have multiple NVMe SSDs off a single PCI-E slot).

  • @adarsh2596
    @adarsh25963 жыл бұрын

    Phil, Can you add 'No man's sky' to your list of test games? It might not be the best game ever but it supports Vulkan. Anyway keep up the good work.

  • @Autumn_Able
    @Autumn_Able3 жыл бұрын

    Still running my X58 build since 2009! Gonna put some last upgrades in it before I finally retire it for a Ryzen AM5 build. Currently it's still running an i7 920, but have an Xeon W3680 ready to swap it out with (and OC a bit) once I find just the right case for it (Rosewill RSV-4310). Essentially want to find that specific 4U case so I can stick a decent workstation CRT on top. That along with either my current GTX 970 or upgrading to a 980 Ti will make for one interesting hybrid. Also will be adding a rather robust USB 3.0 card as my P6T Deluxe v2 came out a bit too early for it to feature it natively. Also going to put in an adapter card that pretty much lets you mount a SATA III SSD right into a PCI-E slot, which will free up space elsewhere in the case and give my Crucial 1TB a small speed boost over SATA II.

  • @4bl0xx30
    @4bl0xx303 жыл бұрын

    M.2 is working on that platform. I have a Samsung 970 Evo (on a cheap M.2 -> PCIe Converter from Amazon) in my Rampage 2 Extreme. It doesn’t shown in the BIOS and is not bootable. But in my case I had multiple SSD‘s and HDD‘s in my PC and I just have installed a bootloader (Clover in my case) on a SATA drive which are shown and bootable from the BIOS. And in the Bootloader I just click on the OS (or let it automatically choose) which is installed on the M.2 drive because the OS has drivers for M.2 built in. It also works with a bootloader on an USB stick but because this is my daily PC I installed it intern. But the Speed of the M.2 is limited. The limit comes because the Samsung 970 is for PCIe 3.0 (x4) but the X58 Platform has only PCIe 2.0 (x4). But it is still faster then SATA2 or even SATA3. As I say it is the maximum Speed of PCIe 2.0 x4.

  • @pierregrobbelaar9116
    @pierregrobbelaar91163 жыл бұрын

    You know your lucky.I am holding off to after convid and see maybe better pricing.I have cpu + ram but would rather get a package like this.Problem is i don't mind paying 3k for the bundle but man they hit me with 2k delivery/import tax.I tried to source a board locally but they are non existent.I need to relocate to australia 😁 PS:You really need more subs.I like your content.You remind me of a teach that explains hardware which i personally enjoy.I can listen whole day about pc hardware.

  • @aceoyame2619
    @aceoyame26193 жыл бұрын

    Pascal still runs on x58. I run a dual x5677 system with a 1060. You could use a 1080ti, that'd be faster than a 580 by a good bit. You may be able to of it slightly as well. I get an extra 100 mhz out of my x5677's with setfsb. They're not unlocked so I can push it too far before it locks

  • @nrg753
    @nrg7533 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy looking back at older products and how they perform today, nice Video! I wonder how an overclocked X79 (eg 3930k) would go with a high end GPU these days.

  • @RonaldBradycptgmpy
    @RonaldBradycptgmpy3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil! I've been watching your content for 2-3 years now and I've loved every second. So, thank you. I had a question. I've got an HP Z440 workstation w/ an E5- 2620 V3 16GB DDR4 and an RX 580 8 GB. I was wondering if there's a way to mod the BIOS of these machines to manually set the CPU speeds in a similar way to to the Chinese motherboards. Thanks!

  • @Airbag888
    @Airbag8883 жыл бұрын

    Well this processor is SO much more frugal than the i7 920 and the W3690 I got haha specially in idle

  • @GamersOrb

    @GamersOrb

    3 жыл бұрын

    using the same processor with my gtx 1070 ti.

  • @achu-7941

    @achu-7941

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GamersOrb the bottleneck is real with your setup. My condolences

  • @nathanschultz1440

    @nathanschultz1440

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@achu-7941 I'm using an r9 370 and x5670 GPU bottlenecks while cpu sits between 20 and 50 dependant on load

  • @itstheweirdguy
    @itstheweirdguy3 жыл бұрын

    Phil, I would love to see you pull off a hard mod so you can increase the voltage on this board. Even if you don't, I'd like to see you overclock the unlocked CPU....melt this thing!

  • @kacasio1
    @kacasio13 жыл бұрын

    There arent that many nvme ssds with legacy bios support such as the Samsung 950 Pro, BUT you may be able to use it if you are not going to boot from it, so you may want to test that. Also there is something that is called DUET that people have been using to make nvme drives boot with boards with legacy bios, so you may want to check that out as well.

  • @dexsters5643
    @dexsters56433 жыл бұрын

    Will the ram used in the X79 boards will work with this or not. I still cant get a clear awnser. I have 6 sticks of PC3-8500R-7-10-H0 (DDR3-1066) ram and i cant tell if it will work. Didnt work on my rampage board with X5570

  • @giokiborg
    @giokiborg3 жыл бұрын

    does GTX 10 series require secure boot? I remember one youtube pairing GTX 1080ti vs 775 cpu

  • @KubeSquared
    @KubeSquared3 жыл бұрын

    I really dig the black with green accents look!

  • @qtube2007
    @qtube20073 жыл бұрын

    I'm rocking a Asus p6t v2 deluxe with x5675 oc to 4.2... I have a 1070 gtx and it all works well... will be retiring the whole thing soon though. The o/c has become unstable. I built the system back in 2009.. Never though i'd still be using it but i lucked out with x58 and the board I happened to choose. With SATA, memory, age etc. though I think that it is time to move on. I have my eye on a 3080 when they become available and I don't think i want to put a 3080 into a x58 system... lol. even though it would be interesting to see the results. I will probably do it and run some BMs just for the laugh. But the cpu was never the BN in any of my games. Great Video. Keep up the good work.

  • @arthurmann578

    @arthurmann578

    3 жыл бұрын

    I actually have the same Asus P6t Deluxe v2 motherboard as you with a i7 920 CPU, gtx 780ti, 8GB of Gskill ram, and Corsair 850 PSU. The whole system was actually dumped on my front lawn back in July in quite beat-up and disgustingly dirty shape by a passer-by. It would not start up at first, but after MUCH cleaning and some repair work, and some "magic," it sprung to life! It has turned out to be a great system for my needs and pretty damn fast, even without any over clocking! I love it! 👍👍😁😁

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman96373 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil, I just picked up Radeon 9600XT and AIW 9600 for a Windows 98 build, but all I got is an older Pentium 4 system with 400Mhz FSB with 133Mhz that only has AGP 4x. How much performance am I gonna lose compared to slightly newer Pentium 4 system with DDR ram and a full AGP 8x?

  • @KadiusFTW
    @KadiusFTW3 жыл бұрын

    Is fsb overclocking an option on this board? And if its not directly an option, I assume this uses an ami bios, so you may be able to edit it to allow it to do so with the ami bios tool you use on x99 to make the turbo hack work by disabling c3 and c6 power states, as well as enable safe mode that way

  • @haydarfuel
    @haydarfuel3 жыл бұрын

    it's incredible to see how technology advancement decrease in recent times, i still use a 775 platform with a cpu around 10 years of age which does a decent job with a fairly good gpu

  • @dagothcharles2044

    @dagothcharles2044

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whats your gpu? Im upgrading my old ass 775 that I just fixed

  • @haydarfuel

    @haydarfuel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dagothcharles2044 rx570

  • @vicvector7878

    @vicvector7878

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's awesome to build systems like that for the nostalgia factor and the thing is, they are perfectly capable entertainment rigs :)

  • @haputmacatiag9813

    @haputmacatiag9813

    3 жыл бұрын

    i have a qx6700 paired with gtx750ti 2gb and 2x4gb 133mhz ddr3 ram. 2.7ghz oced to 3.2 via multiplier, not fsb.

  • @dieteradant122
    @dieteradant1223 жыл бұрын

    You can use TianoCore DUET to boot from the nvme devices on older platforms.

  • @Vasator
    @Vasator3 жыл бұрын

    Was wondering whet the performance would be for Photogrammatery. I've been thinking about buying one of these combos but wondering what the timeframe would be for a system like this combined with a NVIDIA card using Meshroom or Regard3D. Maybe a good test would be with taking 32 or 64 or 128 images and combining them into a 3D model

  • @joelpichette
    @joelpichette2 жыл бұрын

    Which year is that sata ssd from ? I have a enterprise-grade 400 gb sas drive from pliant (sandisk lb-406m) that has the exact same speed using sas-3gbps and sas-6gbps, but it is from 2014.

  • @gabrielesalerno1882
    @gabrielesalerno18823 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phils, i really appreciate your videos and your work on these aliexpress builds! Is it possible to overclock x5675 on this Huananzhi X58 Deluxe motherboard?

  • @ragnarsdad6065
    @ragnarsdad60653 жыл бұрын

    I have a few 1366 systems i use for Boinc and my daily machine is a dell T7500 with an X5687 (quad core 3.6ghz) with a vega 56, works perfectly.

  • @taza99
    @taza993 жыл бұрын

    Hey, nice content! I noticed your hands, you have some good lotion for them? I had the same issue for years, doctor gave me some stronger stuff, been gone for a year.

  • @maxdsm2569
    @maxdsm25693 жыл бұрын

    Hi.. I try to add an nvme no pci bus. I'm able to instal the os but is impossible to select this drive to boot. Is there a bios upgrade that support boot from PCI-E?

  • @inkysteve
    @inkysteve3 жыл бұрын

    X58 boards from Asus support nvme drives on cards, they won't boot from them but you can use them for storage.

  • @sebastiankotterba863
    @sebastiankotterba8633 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Is possible to overclock procesor on this mainboard in BCLK?

  • @jack316i

    @jack316i

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me isn't possibile with i7 960 😢 on the asrock x58 deluxe oc function are most complete xeon w3690 runs well. Isn't possibile adjust timmings and ddr3 max run's at 1333 😢

  • @olegsaiko4270
    @olegsaiko42703 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, what do you think about E5620 (~$5) for this platform?

  • @MrMilli
    @MrMilli3 жыл бұрын

    5:30 What you have there is a SATA card with a PCI-E 1x slot. On PCI-E 2.0 that will not provide enough bandwidth for a SSD. What you need is a controller that has a Marvell 88SE9230 or ASMedia ASM3142 chip. These are 2x PCI-E. I have used the 88SE9230 myself and it got close to the maximum of the SATA 3.0 specification.

  • @GamersOrb

    @GamersOrb

    3 жыл бұрын

    use sata 6 PCI card

  • @MrMilli

    @MrMilli

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GamersOrb LOL

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone4223 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for revisiting this platform. X58 isn't a bad platform but there are now too many incompatibilities & concessions that have to be made unless you're building a Win XP through 7 retro box. It doesn't support desirable current day tech like the newer AMD video cards, possibly some of the newer Nvidia cards, M.2 SSDs, SATA3, USB 3.2 gen2, etc. Even a cheap AM4 board will give you most of those features, or all of them if you go with an inexpensive A520 board. Sure it might not be quite as cheap initially but it's a much better value in the long run IMO!

  • @andremesq

    @andremesq

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it wouldn't make much sense to run the newer graphics on it anyway. I have tested the x58 I got with both a GTX1060 and an RX570 and they run just fine... and that is the kind of graphics power I believe one should be aiming at when going with a system of this age.

  • @BenWillock
    @BenWillock3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps you could try installing the 5700XT in a second PCIe x16 slot, with your monitor plugged into a legacy GPU, and then use Windows 10's graphics options to select specific applications to use the 5700XT? This is what I do with my DIY eGPU setup on my laptop.

  • @wizdude
    @wizdude3 жыл бұрын

    Would a GTX970 work on this board? Was thinking of building up a machine to run Coinops2 or similar as a retro gaming machine to play on my living room television. Great video and keep up the great work.

  • @ineligible2267
    @ineligible22673 жыл бұрын

    I've been running my W3690 with an OC and a GTX 1080 for a few years, using it for 1440p is really nice but I'm gonna do a full replacement when the time is right

  • @amansidhu2138

    @amansidhu2138

    3 жыл бұрын

    what OC do you have on that chip, i have a W3690 also running at 4.2 all cores..

  • @ineligible2267

    @ineligible2267

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amansidhu2138 I used to have it higher but right now only at 3.8 since I'm not using it as much

  • @m.rizal.r4012
    @m.rizal.r40122 жыл бұрын

    hello phil i have a question,can i install windows 10 pro on asus p6t motherboard?

  • @DickWheels
    @DickWheels3 жыл бұрын

    Does windows xp still work on X79? Would like to use NVME drives if possible

  • @ygorbachev
    @ygorbachev3 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Phil Would you be able to take a look at E5-4627V4? Seems to be very popular on Ali for past few months. Perhaps mention in one of your videos what you think of it. Thank you

  • @alertol
    @alertol3 жыл бұрын

    smaller coolers (like chipset one, and vrm one on X99-TF/F8) go very loud in year or two Sata 2 and 3 have no difference in blind test, only in benches

  • @4x4forlyfe
    @4x4forlyfe3 жыл бұрын

    Really strange you were having those issues with Fortnite. I run an X5660 in my current rig and play Fortnite daily. Never had those stutters. Granted I'm running an Nvidia GPU on DX11. Do you have any Nvidia cards?

  • @usmanhidayatulloh1283
    @usmanhidayatulloh12833 жыл бұрын

    Good video!

  • @gira93
    @gira933 жыл бұрын

    I've upgraded my i7-930 last week (switched to Ryzen) and it was still a capable gaming machine with a GTX 1060

  • @SummonerArthur
    @SummonerArthur3 жыл бұрын

    Im about to upgrade and was wondering... Why the heck does the x3460 is double the price of an x3450 on aliexpress?

  • @gorgaable
    @gorgaable3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phill. I was hoping if you could help me decide whether it's worth it to buy a used z77 motherboard from Aliexpress. I just got a i7-3770k for quite the bargain, and I'm looking for a cheap and safe solution to get it overclocked within a respectable level. I found one as cheap as below 60 usd and looking for that little nudge to purhase it. I'm not rich enough to be losing 60 usd and shrug it off. Any better suggestions would also be very welcome. Love you aliexpress videos , and thanks !

  • @gw2038
    @gw20383 жыл бұрын

    Lol I'm just in the process of upgrading from a 2010 build w Asus sabretooth x58, i7 960, 24gb ram and this pops up on my feed! It first had an AMD hd6950 which got upgraded to a GTX 1060 a couple years ago. Only other upgrade was ssds in that time. Ole x58 has done well the last 10 or so years!

  • @MrMilli
    @MrMilli3 жыл бұрын

    I ran a X5675 at 3.8GHz for a good 3 years with no issues whatsoever. I was using a very high end motherboard though. But using Nehalem cores, the single core performance is very low, even at 3.8GHz.

  • @jacknicholson1288
    @jacknicholson12883 жыл бұрын

    I got a W3690, Noctua DH-14, Asrock extreme3 X58, 6*4GB DDR3 and a aerocool 700W psu for £150 :) Using it now, Love it.

  • @thatguy3502
    @thatguy35023 жыл бұрын

    About 3 weeks ago I was trying to build just a simple set for my gtx 1060 6gb astrix I picked up for 120e from used market. I targeted ryzen 1600 but I stumble to a x58 gigabyte with 12gb 6dimms ddr3 and i7 960 for 100e combo. And before that I came passed a used x5670 for 30e. So I thought if I take them 100+30= 130e minus I would sell the i7 960 even just for 20e and I did! Now I am satisfied with set up I have running at 4.4ghz with cb score 1005. :)

  • @Tech215Studios
    @Tech215Studios3 жыл бұрын

    I just did a video on that exact RX 580!! It’s funny tho Phil my HP Z400 with the X5680 works just fine with my 5500XT...I wonder why the 5700XT won’t work on that board??? Anyway, great video man!!!

  • @craigharris9591
    @craigharris95913 жыл бұрын

    I just got this motherboard and put it all together today and its running good but my gpu is running super slow on this motherboard. Is there any thing in the bios I should know about to fix this issue ??

  • @JosephStory
    @JosephStory3 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone explain why the 5700xt wouldn't work with that chipset? I have an ASUS p6t board and an 920 collecting dust. Curious why it wouldn't work on that board.

  • @tnie2409
    @tnie24093 жыл бұрын

    Because its not a x58 mainboard but a 5520, does unbuffered ram also work ? Its a little bit confusing, that they named the product x58. Wish it had more ram slots. Thank you for the video.

  • @tnie2409

    @tnie2409

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try a sata controller with 4 lanes. Should be much faster

  • @angelolima4811
    @angelolima4811 Жыл бұрын

    Any compatible cpu processor with avx or workaround for the tgwp6 dell motherboard thank you

  • @cagc7963
    @cagc79633 жыл бұрын

    Hey i don't find a Lot about this, but what games i couldnt play if i Buy x58 platform? Talking about avx instructions

  • @reekmortee8020
    @reekmortee80203 жыл бұрын

    Which performs better in games at its own price 3500x or 2678 v3 UTB 3500x + mobo combo in my market is ~40$ pricer than xeon.

  • @greyfox37
    @greyfox373 жыл бұрын

    Sad that Crysis Remastered dulled a few things down on textures and breaking up objects in the world

  • @GamersOrb
    @GamersOrb3 жыл бұрын

    Using a x58 workstation. Intel xeon 6 cores 12 threadss with gtx 1070ti. Doing 1440p gaming flawlessly. Check videos for benchmarks

  • @francescovolpini

    @francescovolpini

    3 жыл бұрын

    interesting! i'll check your channel out

  • @seylaw

    @seylaw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vega 64 / 56 should also work fine (albeit your PSU needs to be up to the task, especially when overclocking the Xeon on a better mainboard).

  • @SaarN1337

    @SaarN1337

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still got my X58 rig as well, but it's an X5690 @ 4.3GHz. I used to game with an rtx 2080, but the bottleneck was pretty big, so I got another pc with a Ryzen 3600 (the difference is massive).

  • @GamersOrb

    @GamersOrb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@francescovolpini Thank you

  • @francescovolpini

    @francescovolpini

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GamersOrb no prob ;)

  • @alireza8999
    @alireza89992 жыл бұрын

    I have biostar t power x58 with core I7 950 cpu. Can I inistall gtx 750 ti on it or it doesn't work???

  • @antonschaf4088
    @antonschaf40883 жыл бұрын

    @PhilsComputerLab There is a MSI X58 Pro-E refurbished for 40€ i could buy. Do you think it would be a better option? I could pair it with a Xeon X5675 and cheap 12 Gb Ram-kit from AliExpress. It would be a project to play around. I would buy the other parts used and cheap from my local market.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes it would be a better option :)

  • @sbeyer17
    @sbeyer173 жыл бұрын

    It would be nice, if you'd be able to test these old platform with turing or ampere graphic cards thx

  • @stephencox4224
    @stephencox42246 ай бұрын

    The big plus of X58 as far as I am concerned is it is the best option for native Windows XP support that means native install of XP on real hardware allows good compatability with older but still great Games. Never to go on internet as I have other systems for that duty, With an Asus Rog Gene 3 Motherboard I also have sata 3 and native renasis chipset USB 3 and more can be added via a PCIE slot card and with this system I can use my old Soundbalster Sound card for it's old school Gameport as I have an old school all aluminium CH Joystick which is awesome based on the F16 Control Aircraft Joystick these were actually used by the USAF for Training simulators hence why I run an X58 system

  • @grzeskop5382
    @grzeskop53823 жыл бұрын

    I currently run X58 as a server in my basement, it runs linux very well. About nvme on X58 it is possible on linux by putting boot partition on a different drive, or by using refind/clover you can boot from nvme under efi

  • @kaltblut
    @kaltblut3 жыл бұрын

    Im pretty sure the PCIe to M.2 SSD will be visible in Windows, you just cannot set it as boot device since the bios doesnt come with NVME drivers. But you could technically have the boot record on a regular SATA-SSD (or HDD) and install the Windows files on the m.2 SSD, that should/could work.

  • @r4mps
    @r4mps3 жыл бұрын

    On the AMD Graphics you can turn on Enhanced Sync from the driver to get a better experience in low fps situations ( under 60 ). It works great with high refresh monitors ( >75 hz )

  • @euX222X
    @euX222X3 жыл бұрын

    1:54 There's "VT-x" enable on CPU active instructions, so, yes they have Virtualization function, also, X58 are my favorite platform all time, miss so much my old E5649 4.2GHz, but, actually, guess the "X79" 2011/1356 are the kings of budget...

  • @christophejournoud2773
    @christophejournoud27733 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, Actually you can find Asus ou Gigabyte MB X58 with full OC possibilities for a little more than 70 euros so not much over this MB. However it looks that those board do not support ECC DDR3

  • @maggiejetson7904
    @maggiejetson79043 жыл бұрын

    I have 4 sticks of DDR3 retired from another system and 1 of them is bad, this 3 channel setup seems like a good way to use them up.

  • @ghostrider628
    @ghostrider6283 жыл бұрын

    Hello and thanks for a great channel.. Maybe someone here can help me with my issues.. Im trying to build a retro gaming pc for playing games from the 1997-98 era. Im using a win98 setup with P233 mmx and geforce 4mx 440. The problem is a lot of DirectX games does not start at all, or have serious graphical issues, like Colin mcrae rally and Wipeout XL for exampel, the graphics is very glitched with lots of black areas, missing menus and so on. Games like Quake and Quake 2 works perfect though. I have installed the DirectX 7 drivers. Any suggestions? Is it possible that my graphics card is too modern for playing these old games? Should i get something older like the riva TNT 2?

  • @mealot7613
    @mealot76133 жыл бұрын

    Running a hp z400 lga1366 for the last 9 years. Got it 2nd hand really cheap. It has a w3690 (€55,-) for the last years. 20gb ram, and 2nd hand gtx 1070 (€250 3years back). You can put the turbo to 4ghz using Intel extreme tuning utility, only do not use the latest version as they dropped support for this cpu some time ago. Still a fine daily driver at 1920x1200 @ 60fps. Yes it does virtualization. This cpu also supports higher ram speeds. Bought 2 of the hp systems last year for people around me for only €125. You should undervolt the rx 580, it will run overclocked and still with less energy as stock to make it not get so hot and noisy.

  • @kztech1319
    @kztech13193 жыл бұрын

    Did you mention for these platforms it might be important to disable the likes of spectre and meltdown patches? I have the PlexHD X79 platform for virtual machines with a E5-2673V2 and disabling those patches made a drastic performance improvement in virtual machines

  • @WantijaDan
    @WantijaDan3 жыл бұрын

    Sadly x58 does not perform well with modern console emulators. Most games in Dolphin and PCSX2 (haven't tried Cxbx-Reloaded or XQEMU due to their limited game compatibility) work fine but when you start to try games with Yuzu and RPCS3 the performance is barely playable for many games (Afterburner Climax runs fine though) and Xenia won't boot since the CPU is missing AVX instruction set. Great Video though, crazy to see that it still runs a lot of modern games well!

  • @douglasamarfio256
    @douglasamarfio2563 жыл бұрын

    RTX 3090 is it compatible? with sabertooth X58 board?

  • @MiRaClEHuB-ej5mv
    @MiRaClEHuB-ej5mv2 жыл бұрын

    Does this x58 deluxe support overlooking?

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