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@KenS1267

4 жыл бұрын

You said click next turn and leave the house. I can't leave my house. Why do you torment me so?

@Wartorment

4 жыл бұрын

Just hold your breath when you go outside.

@blueblade455

4 жыл бұрын

You supporting China products at this time really makes me want unsubscribe, seriously.

@JustTechGuyThings

4 жыл бұрын

"Leave the house"... must be an April Fool's Joke.

@emboop2346

4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting subject and extremely hard to not get into geopolitics while covering it..

Your test is invalid, you only used 4 of the 1,000,000,000,000 cores.

@rehmanarshad1848

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Allyouknow5820

4 жыл бұрын

I QUESTION YOUR TESTING METHODOLOGY :'DDD !

@the_secret_arts

4 жыл бұрын

Not to worry. The 4 cores will self-replicate and double every 3 days, and when they hit 1 trillion, they will become airborne and implant self-replicating cores into your other devices.

@HardcoreFixation

4 жыл бұрын

Not many KZread comments make me laugh, but you smashed it there J Bottero, I salute you 😂😭

@歸虛

4 жыл бұрын

有點誤會 have misunderstanding 因為"兆" 在中華民國-台灣Taiwan或中國-大陸 在電子(in electrictronic)方面是當作MEGA Like Radio 1XX.X MHz We call 1XX.X 兆(M)赫(Hz) "兆" 用在錢的單位才是1萬億 use by money is mean 1000 billion Pls forget me english not good

Finally a cpu that is slightly worse than mine

@excitedbox5705

4 жыл бұрын

Some are actually better in some tasks than AMDs own CPUs. They are based on Zen 1 but have some customization (Wendel from level1 thinks it is the PCI distance that is shorter). He used win10 though which obviously doesn´t have proper support for a non standard GPU.

@neoqueto

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh, getting those 1.6 GHz single-core Sempron flashbacks.

@manolinmero

4 жыл бұрын

It has similar singlecore scores to my terrible A9 9420 HP laptop, but mine only has 2 cores so its even worse

@Cheese-n-Cake16

4 жыл бұрын

@@excitedbox5705 This CPU is not a Hygon CPU so it is not based on AMD Zen micro architecture; this is a completely different CPU design

@madmax2069

4 жыл бұрын

@Razorsaber i have to ask, what CPU are you using

You should really include a raspberry Pi included to the comparisons...

@320466

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@mr.waffentrager4400

3 жыл бұрын

Is it even x86 ??

@matthewe3813

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.waffentrager4400 no, it uses ARM

@abstractapproach634

3 жыл бұрын

Yessssssssssssss, but being a windows guy he may go for it if WOR project gets easier and better. I would love to see an RPI review *edit: no it's not x86, either is apple. Risc is the future (look into Nvdia's Grace) it will be along time before they run consumer applications well, but the time of x86 will end; maybe this decade.* edit 2: What sucks about that is all the good Risc projects are owned by ARM or other evil proprietary companies. Which is weird considering x86 hides so much more from the user (there are registers in zen 2 you can't even access!?) Sigh, but if enough people dedicate themselves we will reverse engineer or unlock enough secrets that open source Risc competitors can emerge. Anyway's, I guess that was quite a rant. I believe some software can be proprietary (like if I sell a 3d printed part, keep the gcode is fine because your not selling the user the code. But a cpu/gpu is different. They sell me a machine and say I'm not allowed know how to use it?! So I am supposed to trust them to choose which core/thread to run my program on. Or not let me run it all because I don't have "permission"! That's what makes me sick. I want to know the machine code, I want the pinout, and I want to be able to inspect and modify my compiler and assembler and there outputs in s meaningful way. But that's not how it's done. They give you a "drive" that will work as long as you O.S. is on their radar. Fuck that, I think a list of hardware and pinout commands (machine code) for everything the device can do should come with any logic chip, even ones with 4094 pins, or ones that fit onto a PCIEx slot. My mission in life is to build an AI and test bench which will reverse engineer the machine code of any chip. This of course is going to take a lot of funding and knowledge so for now I'm trying to start a line of cases and adapter cords. My first project is the case and i/o of an ASUS prime trx-40 + Ryzen threadripper 3970x + ASUS dual rtx-3070. Its taking longer than I thought to get off the ground. But *after a while there will be some interesting stuff on my channel* (right now it's garbage though, I jumped into YT too fast and am still not ready)

@michaelmartin4552

2 жыл бұрын

@@abstractapproach634 Uhhh, RISC is now. AMD moved to RISC over 30 years ago. X86 is not a CPU instruction set anymore, it has not been for decades. It is simply a standard so that other hardware and software manufacturers can follow to ensure forwards and backwards compatibility. And we have had RISC computers also for decades. The IBM/Apple PowerPC, MiPS, Alpha, and Sun SPARC are just a few. And this goes back over 35 years. Intel is really the only company that is still sticking to CISC. But even that is hard to classify, as they have a CISC-RISC interpreter in their processors, so they also are really hybrids.

This guys neutral, no drama tech vid's keep me glued from start to finish. I understand

@Gobble.Gobble

2 жыл бұрын

he is chaotic neutral. Throwing shade to anyone he can. That is why we love him

@vangthao4624

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, no bias, no lame repetitive inside jokes, no obnoxious attitude. Just pure factual information.

Intel is confident their upcoming 14nm refresh will compete with this chip.

@JABelms

4 жыл бұрын

Not even a refresh.intel 14nm is from 2014 (I still have an 8 core 16 thread i7 from 6 years ago) and the architecture is 9 years old. 6 year old node and 9 year old architecture

@shaneeslick

4 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing you are refering to the i9-10980XE, P.s. 😲 Wow! Some people just can't see Sarcasm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@JABelms

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaneeslick 10980XE was already released last year lol, my friend has one

@matthewc994

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not. :p

@pixels303at-odysee9

4 жыл бұрын

Oh the stagnating innovation shills of silicon valley, our beloved supplier of over priced and nearly identically designed processors over the past ten years. Yes, Intel.

Finally, a processor that can slightly edge out an Atom processor or the average school computer.

@StonedSoldering

4 жыл бұрын

i5-8400 is a pretty common high school/community college pc

@virtualtools_3021

4 жыл бұрын

@@StonedSoldering Maybe in countries that care about education

@StonedSoldering

4 жыл бұрын

@@virtualtools_3021 US doesn't broadly but I've encountered plenty of i5 school PC's lol

@JSLEnterprises

4 жыл бұрын

It's and overclocked z560 - most all Penwell or newer Atom processors are better performing than this chip.

@edsknife

4 жыл бұрын

@@StonedSoldering My HS had i5 MacBooks, but they were only 2 cores and M A C B O O K S. They weren't even good single-threaded because of lack of cooling, but at least they had SSDs however small (128 GB). CPU was i5 5250U with 4GB RAM. Funny how people still say my HS is wasteful, but it isn't far from the truth when such terrible computers were costing them $800 each.

Investagive journalism isn´t dead it´s alive and well here, thanks

@audio01

3 жыл бұрын

This is crappy/biased journalism. Please, inform yourself somewhere else for the real reason of the existence of these chips.

@TheWarmotor

3 жыл бұрын

Enlighten us, comrade. What is the REAL story here?

@audio01

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWarmotor I'm not a "comrade" or whatever... The reasons why these chips exists is for cutting out the backdoors in the processors from the U. S. (Intel's IME and AMD's PSP), and for using their own (Chinese) encryption algorithm. It's understandable they're concerned about their own security. Also these computers/chips aren't targeted for general audience, so all these gaming benchmarks are ridiculous. They're for government/official institutions of China. Prices aren't "real" and they don't count for final users. An last, this guy is mocking about the product name, without understanding the language. The name isn't about how many cores it has. It's just a "superlative" name, as many of the U. S. companies use for their own products. It's would be something more like "Mega-Core", not "Trillion-Core".

@DarksoldierX2

3 жыл бұрын

@@audio01No one cares if its a trillion cores or megacores. many benchmark tests are arbitrary anyway and the ones used by Gamers Nexus are general benchmarks.You said a lot about security and backdoors without even regarding the secondary reasons for the creation of the CPU. While backdoors exist on other CPUs, they are designed to run on a wider market instead of a proprietary OS. If you haven't noticed, many chip vendors are banned to China due to their egregious civil rights violations and various shortages. This was said in the video. Before being a 50 Cent Soldier and a shill for the CCP, get your facts straight.

@alfredodominguez2799

3 жыл бұрын

👍

I love that you are non bias, reviewing everything I could possibly be looking at as a buyer and keeping it true and applicable. Plus that phone toss had me laughing. Real forces not just random falls. Overkill maybe, but I can relate and absorb the rich information you provide on everything. Thanks. Subscribed!

The desktop chassis is awfully reminiscent of the Lenovo Thinkstation.

@colinberry2991

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s funny about that, the original Thinkstation chassis was actually designed in Shenzhen back in the 90’s when IBM was still in charge of........ Nah I’m kidding, the Chinese copied it!

@rh906

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder why...

@jmugurr994

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that because Lenovo is a Chinese company? Pretty sure they would be involved in this as well.

@romevang

4 жыл бұрын

@@jmugurr994 Wouldn't be surprised if the supplier for these cases was the same company Lenovo uses. Since yes.. they are Chinese.

@andljoy

4 жыл бұрын

No!!! Are you saying china rip off designs ? That has 100% totally never happened before.

I was shocked when I heard him speak proper chinese with the tones, that was crazy

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

My Chinese is still terrible. Extremely slow progress, but learning nonetheless. I can order at a restaurant somewhat competently and ask a factory how hot something is, how long it takes, when they built or bought the machine, etc. I'm still at that stage where I don't understand 90% of the answers to my questions!

@cks5148

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus You should get a Chinese girl friends , that can speed up your Chinese spoken language learning process significantly.

@rdxzero

4 жыл бұрын

Marden Blake waiting for the day GN makes a click bait vid "white guy speaks fluent Chinese and surprises locals"

@AdriandeMorcerf

4 жыл бұрын

@@rdxzero Followed by a video called 'did that guy just eat a bat'

@user-yv2cz8oj1k

4 жыл бұрын

@@cks5148 getting a Chinese girlfriend is probably a step too far. 🤣

well.....it's energy efficient i guess. You could buy a calculator with more processing power.

@utubekullanicisi

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt you could find a calculator with a 2GHz processor (maybe I'm wrong though, I don't follow the calculator space closely). What's blowing my mind is the price to performance ratio of a 64-core Epyc CPU would probably be better than this, at $1000. Actually yes, it would definitely be better because the price would only increase 10-15x but the performance would be 100x better, from what we've seen im these benchmarks...

@aagp2

3 жыл бұрын

@@utubekullanicisi ..It's a joke bruh

@VeritasEtAequitas

2 жыл бұрын

@@aagp2 It's not a "joke". It's what's necessary to avoid hardware and microcode backdoors that literally everything else has. They may put in their own, but this is a step forward in security when the US and rest of the 14-eyes nations have been under complete surveillance but Isr*** for years.

@aagp2

2 жыл бұрын

@@VeritasEtAequitas What does that have to do with anything at all?

For relatively new x86 contenders its pretty impressive to see homegrown silicon. Give ot a few years and if ARM isnt ruling the desktop world itll probably be a worthy alternative if you're in China or east asia

@Jeroensgambling

2 жыл бұрын

Its still an AMD design. And they cant alter it really, only suggest new "things".

@Jeroensgambling

2 жыл бұрын

@@blitzwing1 And is'nt the other chinese based CPU maker a deal with VIA since they are the only X86 license out there other then Intel and AMD?

@JT-hg7mj

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeroensgambling this has nothing to do with the AMD/ china venture. This is a chinese company that bought VIA, and this is an original x86 design

"so the older among you may be shocked to hear names such as VIA, Cyrix and Centaur" i'm offended

@haukionkannel

4 жыл бұрын

guguigugu welcome to the club ;)

@Theorcer

4 жыл бұрын

Nah you're just old, just like me. Damn I'm offended also!

@piworower

4 жыл бұрын

... and shocked

@germanmosca

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Steve is being an axx, calling us old. :/

@flopyrelly4281

4 жыл бұрын

haha i'm getting old! haha

This Processor needs to have a death match with the Celeron D.

@MLWJ1993

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure if that's enough competition, maybe try something like a Nokia 1600 🤔

@DarkZerol

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLWJ1993 You can't compare X86 with ARM architecture. An X86 would pulverize any ARM processors in-terms of desktop level multitasking no matter how weak it is.

@MLWJ1993

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkZerol I really don't think so with this garbage performance though.... Any other day of the week you'd be right...

@markuskass6199

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLWJ1993 ARM processors are not designed to run full-fledged desktop OS like Windows, most even struggle to load them up and are plague with a myriad of compatibility issue with those X86 programs. Also not forget a much smaller ARM processor have incredibly poor heat tolerance compared to something like X86 with multiple chips built-into them for maximizing space efficiency, they are designed for much lower power consumption devices. The closest you could get is to compare something like the Intel Atom range of processors, though I'm not sure if you can still even buy them in the market these days unless maybe you are a ODM or something.

@stanleylargo9158

4 жыл бұрын

@Adria Does being a d-bag racist makes you feel any better?

This is the perfect processor to pair with America Online. Let me see if I can find one of those CD things it used to come on.

I had to check whether Steve was making up a gag with the “fried oven” line. He wasn’t.

@Shotblur

3 жыл бұрын

Man knows his West Taiwanese.

I'm not convinced this isn't a convoluted April Fool's prank that has gone way over my head.

@jamesN6450

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, the Chinese just really are fools, so everyday is fool's day.

@macelius

4 жыл бұрын

How is it half an hour lol

@bothellkenmore

4 жыл бұрын

Well the benchmarking section did nothing to dissuade me from thinking this was a joke but after that I slowly realised it was real.

@DanielLiljeberg

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same... but posting it April 2:nd would be breaking the rules :)

@silverhawkroman

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesN6450 would be funny if the guy who started the chinese society was just a troll

A loose translation is "trillion core" or "mega core"...2 minutes later..."The CPU is a 2Ghz 4-core CPU".

@gorgolyt

4 жыл бұрын

"Mega" means million so this sounds like clickbait bullshit. Google translate doesn't recognise "zhao xin".

@MARS-GREENH0USE

4 жыл бұрын

IT NEEDS TO BE TESTED ON ITS OWN SYSTEM TO BE LEGIT MAybe though.

@hikari_no_yume

4 жыл бұрын

@@gorgolyt Well yes Google Translate doesn't recognise Chinese written in the Latin alphabet because that's not how Chinese is normally written. Here you go: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%85%86#Definitions

@yestinlamptey1047

4 жыл бұрын

@@MARS-GREENH0USE I agree, although... as soon as I saw the heatsink, something seemed fishy. For 1k bucks, my man got ripped off HARD

@bruhdabones

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Melo sooo if intel calls their cores “quad”, they could sell a quad core CPU that has 2 “quad” cores? You can’t name thing with quantities if it’s misleading.

Seriously among the best tech channels on KZread right now. You guys rock!

One of the rare situations where literally every component can fail simultaneously

"This is... One o... This is *the* worst that we've ever tested" You were thinking of a way of putting it a bit more politely but then just gave up and said it how it is.

@lukeg9684

4 жыл бұрын

Most popular comments are sarcastic and funny and we all enjoy them but alot of non-tech savvy people won't get it and think them to be true. Be straight (not talking about sexual orientation) and real.

@minus3dbintheteens60

4 жыл бұрын

Haven't you noticed the rapid drop-off of "viewers" in the past 6ish weeks in tech videos? No one could care less about channels like this, sorry Steve, and I do believe you do a bloody good job (among the very best), but it is fact right now. Linus is suffering, so are the rest, I see their videos pop up in the recommended, I notice how poor the viewer count is, I take notice of it, and I get onto my daily inquirery, which is virus and or economic related.

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

@@minus3dbintheteens60 Pretty hilarious how wrong you were!

@minus3dbintheteens60

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus show me your statistics of viewers and new subscribers in march vs the rest of the year prior and after to show me how wrong I was.

@minus3dbintheteens60

3 жыл бұрын

11 months ago (December 19) 24 vids 6,061K views 8 months ago (march ending April 2nd [when I made this post] ) 21 vids 3,630k views Pretty hilarious how right I was 🤣🤣🤣

Zhaoxin actually has some decent CPU that are now available for purchase. The KX--U6780A is 8c/8t, 2.7GHz, and supports dual channel DDR4. It performs like a lower end bulldozer

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

We'll try to get it! Thanks!

@Drdirtydee

4 жыл бұрын

Damn how bad you have to be when bulldozer is what you aspire to be

@minhluonglehoang8679

4 жыл бұрын

@@Drdirtydee well AMD was once pretty shit too but you have to give room for them to growth. I am more welcome to new competition than ever seeing how AMD broke the monopoly of Intel and Nvidia and benefits us the end users

@stargazer162

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how good the IPC is, because 2.7GHz is a very low frequency, but if it can compete with, let's say a FX 8350, which has a 4GHz base clock and 4.2GHz turbo, if Zhaoxin could push a more reasonable clock speed, like 3.7GHz for example, that CPU may achieve a fairly decent performance. I wonder how it will perform at 7nm, I think they were planning to switch to 7nm for their next generation.

@kathleendelcourt8136

4 жыл бұрын

@@stargazer162 The FX 8350 isn't a lower end Bulldozer, it's a high end Bulldozer evolution (Piledriver). A FX 4100 would fit better the description of a lower end Bulldozer CPU.

Appreciate the technical look into the Chinese CPUs and their backstory. I remember a lot of those names from seemingly long ago -- in fact my first discreet graphics card was a PCI card by S3. Curious way to reappear, but sensible enough in-context.

Imagine watching this video and that’s the cpu you’re using... and you pay $1000 usd damn!

This gave Steve the perfect opportunity to flex on us with his Chinese skills lol

@MARS-GREENH0USE

4 жыл бұрын

Translation: " best processor on earth"

@dsong00

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I was confused as to why his pronunciation was quite good

2500K: "I'm still worthy!"

@gearz2570

4 жыл бұрын

AMD A8 6410:I'm still worthy

@DzinkyDzink

4 жыл бұрын

Damn, have you watched the recent GN's video about older CPU?

@silluete

4 жыл бұрын

YES! Yes he is worthy! well i still uses one so i maybe little bit bias :)

@gabsan9954

4 жыл бұрын

@@gearz2570 i have a A8-6410 too 🤣🤣 btw i'm upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 and RX 5700 XT 🤣😥

@pegasusted2504

4 жыл бұрын

I'm on 2600k that's about to get paired with a RTX2070 or an RX5700XT and I'm thinking of getting a 1440p monitor :~)

+1 to Steve getting through the Dept. of Commerce statement on the first try.

I like how he actually used the proper Chinese pronunciation of the CPU.

@happyhappynuts

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I was impressed, it's good both that was decent and thar he cared to get it right

@byr0n

3 жыл бұрын

pretty sure hes been to china multiple times and can speak a decent amount of it

@jzhu623

3 жыл бұрын

@@byr0n Well he didn't realize that Xin means heart and is borrowed to mean core/chip, because he says "Long Xin literally means dragon chip", when no, it literally means dragon heart and is a play on words as a CPU name.

@perforongo9078

3 жыл бұрын

He actually bothered to try to pronounce the tones and he pronounced Shanghai right.

Now this is the stuff that puts GN above the rest. Sad to see it suffers from the VIA curse, aka insaneli high prices and restricted methods to even buy it as seen with the Via Nano series.

@RandyRandersonthefamous

4 жыл бұрын

doesn't matter when the people printing money are buying these for security reasons. give it 5 years and they will have caught up 70% of the way

@TheAnoniemo

4 жыл бұрын

Check out Anandtech and Level1Techs, they had a look at the licenced Zen 1 chips from China and the changes AMD had to make to be allowed to licence their design. Edit: Oh lol, it's literally a minute later in the video.

Considering the chip TDP, I think it would be interesting to compare it to an Intel Atom/ AMD E series and see how far they are in perf/W

@MrMrCruachan

4 жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 The claimed TDP is 18W, it was also made on 28nm. It's a 2 gen old part for Zhaoxin as well. The new generation isn't exactly good by any means, but is not as horrendously shit. Being $700 USD for a mobo + CPU that just beats an old FX-8100. Still trash compared to AMD or Intel, but it is showing some improvements.

@MrMrCruachan

4 жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 If you mean the one I mentioned, I don't remember ZX's claims for that generation. The generation where they claim to be able to get Zen parity is the one after that which isn't released yet. I doubt they will reach zen parity, given how many bulldozer revisions we saw before the transition to zen however I wouldn't be surprised if the generation after that is at zen parity though. They will still be far behind, with zen 4/5 being out by that point, but it will be interesting to watch over the next decade.

@MLWJ1993

4 жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 Not enough publicly disclosed security vulnerabilities for that, so there's still room to grow in order to compete with the top 😂

@MrMrCruachan

4 жыл бұрын

@@vyor8837 From what I found there were some chinese news outlets claiming some level of parity with the i5-6500 or i5-7400. Some just said parity ambiguously (but referred to benchmarks which scale well with threads), some said parity in multithreaded tasks. In terms of multithreaded tasks, it depends on the benchmark. Some Chess benchmarks it performs worse, Cinebench R20 the release chips perform basically dead on the same. The engineering sample tests leaked in late 2017 had it at about 33% worse for multithreaded, while the chips were released in 2019 after delays but were at that performance. So, single threaded is far worse, multithreaded is on parity with the chips. After looking into it more, it seems to be (in terms of performance) an FX-8370 (above in some benchmarks, equal in others, but you get the idea). Achieving this with 3ghz vs the 4/4.3 base/turbo of the fx-8370 shows some decent improvement over the chip GN tested. As I said before, they're still quite a ways behind but it's reaching/has reached the point where the Chinese Government can happily use them for office machines in government installations and the like, basic machines which can't be airgapped and such.

"MEGA time lost in our CPU"

This was super interesting. Despite what a pain in the ass it might be to make, I hope you make more along these lines.

*CIA furiously taking notes *

@DarthAwar

3 жыл бұрын

Russia is switching all it's Government Computers not to ARM or RISC-V but CISC much more complex and slower but harder to hack and not reliant on US Tech to avoid a US Embargo! They are also replacing Monolithic Kernel with Micro-Kernel for the inherent extra security and ability to reboot modules without system wide reboot and much faster start-up times when a system wide reboot is needed!

@ayumuaikawa

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthAwar do you mean CISC ? cause LISC seems to yield no result on google

@ayumuaikawa

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthAwar Thank you, for the (long and good) explaination !

@TheLazyVideo

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarthAwar security through obscurity rarely works out

@DarthAwar

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLazyVideo In the Long Run Yes you are Right, But in the Short to Mid-Term Yes it works out very well imagine people on FreeBSD getting targeted with a super malware or hacker very very hard but not impossible but while too few people use it what is the point of targeting it?

I appreciate him trying to properly pronounce the Chinese!

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've been learning Mandarin for about a year now.

@luizarthurbrito

4 жыл бұрын

@@samwaris908 I find nearly impossible to learn any language outside the hindo-european family. Maaaaybe if I were a teenager again, but it's damn hard.

@bananya6020

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus nice work! yours definitely beats everyone else i've heard that hasn't spoken chinese since birth, if that makes sense.

@AlexChambersXYZ

4 жыл бұрын

Sam Waris What made you want to learn it? You could follow along with Steve in picking up where you left off

@isun4

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus I‘m a native speaker of Mandarin. Ask me if you need any help

The thing is, they did something. They built this cpu, the future is out there. Huawei was absolut dookie in the beginning, but now they have arguably the best smartphones out there. This could become a bit of a similar situation.

Surprising the Chinese government wouldn't just develop a high-powered version of RISK instead. That's open-source with much more freely available R&D to base things off of.

@greenaum

3 жыл бұрын

ARM isn't open-source. It's currently owned mostly by the Japanese as far as I know.

@raszelast

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenaum My bad, got ARM and RISK confused. I'll edit that.

@greenaum

3 жыл бұрын

@@raszelast RISC V you're thinking of I think. RISC is a general term for a class of processors, and ARMs are RISC processors. So essentially the only new part of the name is the V, so I can see it'd be confusing.

One of the most fascinating uploads in a while.

It takes so much longer because the manufacturer wants you to be able to take the time and reflect on your incredibly intelligent purchase decision.

So this is where Cyrix's license went. Interesting. I like to see these alternatives made, even if they won't directly compete with the US market, pressure from them making Chinese super computers might get the government to invest more in innovation from AMD and Intel. In the end I like seeing unique hardware and a possibility of a competitive drive for these companies.

@SyphistPrime

4 жыл бұрын

@matt thomas wtf? Where did you get that from? I mean then paying AMD and Intel to engineer better chips for them. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. All 3 companies have the current rights to produce x64 CPUs. Plus I highly doubt AMD or Intel would want to steal ideas from a Chinese company that's behind them currently in innovation.

@chriscasseday7707

4 жыл бұрын

In 1993 or 94 (long time ago) I witnessed the installation of a couple circuit boards into the bridge computers on the USS Nimitz. For a cost of about $5,000 for each cpu. These boards upgraded the bridges computer system to the PENTIUM 90! Down clocked. Street value at the time - $120 in Seattle. HooRay for government spending!(The circuit boards were estimated to cost ruffly $20,000 each.)

We need open hardware and standards. Resilience is needed. Maybe RISCV will in 20 yrs.

@herrbonk3635

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, but first and foremost we need software with stable and open interfaces in all ends. I.e. not just drivers and API:s, but also a p-code (or "bytecode") interface. That way OS:es and other programs ("applications") could be adapted to any hardware, by "anyone" (even if it's not open source) "simply" by constructing appropriate interfaces. That quality should be what you pay for, not today's creepy licensing in the style of M$ or Apple.

Wait a second, that case is the SFF Lenovo Thinkcentre case lenovo uses since Skylake, but different colors, you truly find everything in China.

@Mythricia1988

4 жыл бұрын

Lenovo is literally a straight-up Chinese company.

@WayStedYou

4 жыл бұрын

Such as Lenovo... the company from China

@AquaSeaWings

4 жыл бұрын

No quite the same

@wysetech2000

4 жыл бұрын

@@vlc-cosplayer China copies everything good from everyone and makes it cheaper.

I would be interested to see what the benchmark for this CPU is with the native OS

@armyofninjas9055

2 жыл бұрын

1 Trillion

Another great vide. Thanks, Steve. Maybe several things not really put in perspective are the following: - That high price is probably because the company has a monopoly as the only domestic CPU manufacturer. So, the price should be really taken into count. If they were fighting on the free market, that PC would be much cheaper. - Performance-wise, sure it is very low. But you are forgetting that this CPU will be used for offices, probably running something like LibreOffice or similar and as is a trend now, actually using web-based applications, that do not need special CPU power. So, as long as it is good enough and gets the job done, it's a win for them. They surely not running rendering jobs on them or playing games in 4K. So, really, it is OK. - It seems that this CPU is on the lower end regarding how much watts it needs. So what would be performance/watt? It is an important metric when discussing CPU designs. - This CPU is comparing to the CPUs like Intel Celeron J1900, Intel Atom x7-E3950, AMD Athlon 5150, AMD A8-4500M and likes off which it is actually a bit faster in Cinebench multi-core test. (Source: www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_multi_core-10 ) Remember how Huawei started? Or other Chinese ARM CPU makers? It will be interesting to come back here in 4-5 years.

Ah back to the Socket 7 days when there were multiple choices to put in your motherboard! I miss Socket 7 :(

@retrocomputeruser

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes I miss those days too. Placing jumpers all over the motherboard matching the speed and multiplier. Those days were the best.

@pixels303at-odysee9

4 жыл бұрын

K6-2 500 was the cats ass. Last semi usable socket 7 processor which could utilize Intel or AMD tech. Wouldn't that be grand if someone standardized a socket type which anyone could use? Nah, that violates every profit based principal companies use to rip off consumers, no good indeed.

@yumri4

4 жыл бұрын

well compared to now that you have CPUs with several hundred dead pins Socket 7 was better. I am not kidding either Intel sockets have dead pins meaning unused not used for electrical positive, electrical negative, ground nor the sometimes needed part of a 1 pin separator to have no cross talk signals between bigger and/or thicker parts in a electrical system. For cross talk they have solved it already with whatever they have put into the socket then into the chip so then you only have the in, out signals then ground. I get having "reserved" pins is a thing but when your company uses a socket for 2 CPU generations having them is just a waste of space.

@FixedFunction

4 жыл бұрын

@@pixels303at-odysee9 Don't forget K6-2+ for adding L2 on-die and bumping performance up by over 10% with barely any extra power. K6-III+ also kicks ass as the last-in-line performance option for SS7, but wasn't available on shelves and now is pretty difficult to attain at reasonable prices.

@GewelReal

4 жыл бұрын

@@pixels303at-odysee9 Ah, yes. Companies are not allowed to make money

Not registering on the ammeters. Matches with performance on logo render.

I'm going the be honest, I started to get lost with the constant and extensive chains of codenames and numbers all linked into each other.

You may want to offer this piece in an article for The Drive or the National Interest. Excellent work.

I'm suprised that the CPU even works with windows 10 without being unstable.

@ekiM2K

4 жыл бұрын

You can run Windows 10 on a potato. Running a server on W10 with an Athlon II. The old ass HDD is actually the bottleneck lol

@gazsope

4 жыл бұрын

@@ekiM2K It's not about the performance, it's about the stability.

@andrew8293

4 жыл бұрын

@@ekiM2K yea. Im surprised mostly about the reverse engineering of the ISA enough to work with windows 10 and regular applications. Morden x86 is very bloated and hard to fully reverse engineer so I thought it was x86-64 but only with the essential instructions to run the OS and a few special programs with sub-par stability.

@lordofduct

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrew8293 Well the video stated that they have a relationship with Via and Cyrix. See back in the day Intel actually sold rights to manufacture x86 processors. This is how AMD got access to it, and later when Intel tried to revoke all licenses and started suing various manufacturers, various lawsuits came about. AMD one a royalty free license to the Am386 design and owned the rights to any design built from that base point. Other companies like Via and Cyrix started about reverse engineering versions of the architecture as well based on this base architecture back then as well. That's how they made and sole processors that were compatible through the 90's and even early 2000's (Via was big in the small form factor x86 PC market back in the mid 2000's, I remember building one myself). Now here's the thing. That base x86 architecture, that's what Windows cares about! All new expansions of the x86 instruction set are tacked on to the end. Note, AMD and Intel have been independently developing the architecture since this split way back when. This means that through the 90's and into the early 2000's Microsoft was contending with the fact that there were 2 independent big players as well as a bunch of small players. So design wise the kernel has been contending with this fact the entire time. So, it's designed in a way to deal with that. The kernel will use a newer instruction if it's available, otherwise falling back to a software based solution if the instruction doesn't exist. So as long as you have that base x86 architecture, Windows doesn't care, it'll keep trucking on forward. At one cost... PERFORMANCE. Hence why this CPU is dog ass slow. It just doesn't have all those newer high-end math instructions. Hence why all the benchmarks they employed were god awful. It was doing all that math in software! I bet it performs just fine as a general purpose UI processor. It probably runs word processors just fine (which is what a government office computer is going to need). This is why dude man in the video later talked about hitting the road running. They don't have as much to make up from here. All they have to do is develop those newer faster instructions. And here's the nice thing here... they don't actually have to reverse engineers those. The instructions are defined. We know their interface... the way to call them, and the way to use their results. That's all that's really needed. And of course we know them, because if we didn't the likes of Microsoft, Apple, the linux community, and any other OS developer out there could not reliably create software that runs on that processor. Furthermore, if you want a very stable OS that runs across decades of hardware (like Windows), you're not going to exploit those functions/instructions. Like... OK, if f(x) is defined to take inputs on registers 1 and 2, and have an output in register 0. Just because it MIGHT also place a remainder in some other register because it used it as a scratch register. You don't read that register for anything. It's not part of the definition. This means it's unreliable... if you did rely on that, and then the hardware manufacturer changed its internal behaviour, then your software breaks! This concept is called encapsulation. And as a software engineer, even if you know how to break encapsulation, you do so at your own risk. And this is how an OS like Windows operates... (and of course Windows has become more stable over the years for various reasons... including respecting these things and purging parts of the kernel that exploit hacks like this). Of course in more embedded systems where you know the specific hardware, you can exploit it willingly, to get that extra edge. Say in things like video game consoles. So, the jobs of these companies are really to come up with their own implementations of those instructions. Just making sure that inputs and outputs are shaped the same as the definition is. And as long as they do that they'll have nearly perfect stability (of course perfect stability is impossible... there's all sorts of mishaps that can impact this... but they're severely limited at this point because OSs compensate for it). The problem here isn't stability... it's creating performant hardware implementations of these instructions and packing them into the silicone. That's the intellectual property that AMD and Intel hold on to. In simple terms... it's not knowing if they need to implement square-root, that they know. It's knowing how to create an algorithm on silicone that does square-root as fast as AMD/Intel can do it in their chips (replace sqrt with a far more complicated instruction). Of course, software that is designed to directly access specific instructions can become more unstable because they do have much higher expectations on the hardware you're running. Software that more directly accesses hardware to perform more time sensitive processes like video games, renderers, etc which need to perform more modern maths. These will become far more unstable and is why most of the tests that failed in this video were related to these. Mind you things from here get a little more complicated into regards of x86-64, since this is technically a different set of instructions developed by AMD on top of x86 and holds the licensing rights to. But this problem is just legal licensing issues (hence the videos long rambling about the complicated business relationships and how AMD was involved but no longer involved due to various legal/political hub-bub). But the hardware side principal stands the same. The right to sell hardware the uses the instruction sets has nothing to do with how stable it will be. TLDR; Via and Cyrix are involved, and they already did most of the leg work of gaining access to the x86 architecture back in the 80's and 90's, as well as more leg work in more recent years with AMD to get the x86-64 base architecture. Tacked on with the fact that Microsoft explicitly designs their OS to be fault tolerant due to its need to support decades worth of evolving hardware. Means it can be very stable as long as the core x86 instruction set exists, if only at the impact of performance.

@andrew8293

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordofduct well I just read the TLDR because you wrote a lot. I thought the same thing about Cyrix and Via but they reverse engineered the 386 and 486 and partly the 586 before going out of busniess. Windows 10 relies on AMD's AMD64. (64 bit) and Intel's 686/786 (32 bit) ISAs which are much more complex than the old 386-586 ISAs. Especially since Intel and AMD change it all the time. Edit: I read about the faster math functions and the fact that we know how the I/O works it was easy to make a chip thats compatible. That probably helped a lot but that probably isn't enough to make a chip that stable on an OS they have no control over.

Love these type of videos! Ever since i got super into computer hardware ive loved learning about the past companies and the history of it all. Hearing how those companies ended up and that they still kind of exist is super cool.

This sounds like something found in something from the early 90’s. That or someone found it in the back of their grandfather’s storage unit.

Wow. This is excellent. More journalism than many media outlets. Keep it coming.

When I heard the price I thought that was an april fools

It would be interesting to see just how far back in the Intel/AMD land you have to go to hit similar performance. Like, would a P4D or Socket 939 Athlon X2 keep up?

It's amazing they can even make a simple x86 without holding tons of patents and licenses. I wouldn't be surprised if this was used in government offices, someone has to be buying them. There is also a Russian enterprise who (can) build x86-compatible CPUs.

@Jeroensgambling

2 жыл бұрын

Ehhh, its actually a Ryzen 1x00 series.

@Breakfast_of_Champions

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jeroensgambling No, it's much worse than that. In any case, x86 is the past.

@Jeroensgambling

2 жыл бұрын

@@Breakfast_of_Champions its still relevant and will be for quite some time.

These kinds of topics are interesting, specifically in the way you researched and presented it. No political nonsense or speculation or arbitrary "side-taking", just facts and research. Just the way that all of your other content is, and I really like that.

@crylune

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I always expect to see random garbage political China bashing whenever something Chinese is involved in a tech video, and this was a breath of fresh air.

Good. I'm glad my Commodore 64 is still King of the PC's.

@bjorn1583

4 жыл бұрын

the good old days where it used to take at least 10 min to load a game from a tape

@xXTheoLinuxXx

4 жыл бұрын

@@bjorn1583 300 baud master race :)

So, to sum it all up, this CPU isn't even just an April Fool's joke, but a joke every other day of the year as well. Bravo.

@EmblemParade

4 жыл бұрын

Uh, is that all you got from this video? Performance is bad, but what's *extremely* interesting is the nexus of international politics, intellectual property, and microprocessors.

@dduay

4 жыл бұрын

I won't call it a joke because it is their last last gen product and CPUs are not some tools you can make from your backyard.

@soupwizard

4 жыл бұрын

Taken alone it's a joke compared to current gen cpu's, but taken in context it's a step along a path towards China's cpu independence from US designs. Every few years their designs get better and eventually they'll be competitive.

@jyppi

4 жыл бұрын

@@soupwizard This is so true. Russia also started to developing their own PC processors and have same goal to get cpu independence from foreign designs.

I see everyone mocking. But wait 10 years. Everyone was laughing at chinese phones in 2010, now we have one plus, huawei and xiaomi.

@MarioGoatse

4 жыл бұрын

And they’re all using Snapdragon SOCs or other SOCs made up of ARM cores. None of them use fully Chinese SOCs.

@DailyBeatings

4 жыл бұрын

@@MarioGoatse Huawei is using their own SOC from HiSilicon. ARM is UK based and owned by a Japanese holding company, so the tech is not US based. Why re-design the wheel when you have access to technology that's EAR free?

@sciarkadatul411

4 жыл бұрын

@@DailyBeatings But some arm development is based in US so....

@DailyBeatings

4 жыл бұрын

@@sciarkadatul411 Citation needed.

@Ethan-qj8uq

4 жыл бұрын

Same thing with their cars, they used to be terrible ripoffs, but now they’re actually pretty good, they’re especially doing well in the electric car field

Finally, a CPU my laptop can out run.

I kinda get why everybody is making fun of this CPU, but I cannot stress enough how much potential "independent" companies have to grow, refine, and beat the competition with a bit of state backing. Or a lot for that matter. We've seen Chinese goods go from shitty knock offs to genuinely world competitive products from phones to cars in under fifteen years, and Korean cars went from a joke to Japanese rivals in the last ten. Ignore or disparage new companies and technologies at your peril, because when you are complacent is when they overtake you.

@Leader_shift310

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Atkins hi, due, I'm a Chinese. You are the only one that I saw on KZread who said rational comments. Most comments on KZread are not very good to China.

@yiwei7278

4 жыл бұрын

zhixiang li who cares, I don’t give a damn

@carlossori2877

4 жыл бұрын

and also corporations limit software cpu arm tech to chinese companies but they will develop one who is gonna knock out the only 2 monopollies we have technology is not a sole from one country

@Mewzyc

4 жыл бұрын

@@Leader_shift310 that's because western media and influence.

@CodexSan

4 жыл бұрын

@@Leader_shift310 bah. Let them talk. After Coronavirus, it's estimated that the US will lose around 30~40% of its internal economic product, Whilst China, that has handled the crisis with much more effectiveness, will lose around 6%. Guess who will arise as the new most powerful and influential economic power?

better upload this video in 1st april with title "The fastest CPU in 2020 : ZhaoXin ZX Dominator CPU!".

@shirakamishiro

4 жыл бұрын

Andreecko Little pink army and Chinese internet commenters feel satisfied

I really like learning from this type of content:) great piece, I can tell how much work went into it

Fun fact: "Chinese Homegrown" roughly translates to "Intellectual Property Theft"

@technoturnovers7072

2 жыл бұрын

Except this one is licensed by VIA, the successor to Cyrix, so they are completely in their right to make this.

Day 4 of asking tech Jesus what kind of shampoo and conditioner he used

@ticler

4 жыл бұрын

He made an entire episode on it.

@jsharp9735

4 жыл бұрын

Why look at those split ends !

@mycelia_ow

4 жыл бұрын

He uses thermal paste

9:33 did u just say "leave the house"? -_o?

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

Good point. Maybe don't do that!

@WayStedYou

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus by the time its your turn again coronavirus will be over

@rehmanarshad1848

4 жыл бұрын

@@WayStedYou 😂😂

This is great content. i'm sure it took a hell of a lot longer than this 29 minutes. Much appreciated

I love this type of content! This is to me the Computer Hardware version of "Jay Leno's Garage" - where you learn simply stuff that the normal run of the mill channels will never give you, because they don't care and actually don't know much. I would be thrilled to see more of these types of videos in the future, even if they will be infrequent! Love this video though! PS can only recommend the mentioned Anandtech article to everyone.

Steve: History lesson Bottles of liquid: Trembling with adoration for their lord and master

My first motherboard was a VIA, fond memories of that K6-2+ system.

@bothellkenmore

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, pretty sure mine was too, a BioStar I think.

@stoneymahoney9106

4 жыл бұрын

My first build was a K6-2 as well, but I can't remember if it was a Via or SiS chipset... Had a 3DFX Voodoo1 tho ;)

@haukionkannel

4 жыл бұрын

Good ole times :)

@GrimpakTheMook

4 жыл бұрын

P3 500 slot on a dfi with ye good ole' via 133. First PC

@jamesb1221222

4 жыл бұрын

Thinking of those days makes me tear up a little

The reason for not allowing foreign CPUs in their military computers is kinda obvious: if you were supplying chips to a country you might well face in war, how many security/other exploits could you build into them?

So... why are we comparing what is CLEARLY an extremely low-power CPU to much higher power-usage CPUs?

@arnolambrechts2422

4 жыл бұрын

This ❤️

@herrbonk3635

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because this is a channel for pubertal youngsters without much critical thinking or scientific education. (I'm just guessing here. So correct me if I'm wrong.)

@roverT205

4 жыл бұрын

The cost of the thing? It's quite simple

@herrbonk3635

4 жыл бұрын

@@roverT205 What do you mean? Low power draw is very important in many cases (such as in massively parallel machines). The number of instructions per second per watt is often essential (and worth extra expenses).

@youmemeyou

4 жыл бұрын

@@herrbonk3635 😊👍

I never thought I'd see a 2500k on a graph again :') (love that cpu)

@eternalreign2313

3 жыл бұрын

Since it's almost impossible to get a GPU these days, I've been considering getting one of those APU's, so at least I finally got to see some benchmarks on those xD. Unfortunately it's just as impossible finding an APU.

@uteriel282

3 жыл бұрын

i still have an i5-2320 around from my last pc. for an early quad core cpu its actually not that bad.

Man, if that's how slow one of their Trillion-Core CPUs are, I'd hate to see how one of their quad-cores are.

@johnwallace1729

4 жыл бұрын

No thanks , had my fill of chinese junk

@wothin

4 жыл бұрын

It's the company name. That's like complaining that the XBox is not shaped like an X.

@xsteveconwayx

3 жыл бұрын

@@wothin But it was shaped like an X. It was shaped like a box with an X growing out of it. It was a literal X box.

@no_misaki

3 жыл бұрын

@@wothinwe get it you're humorless

@mesterak

3 жыл бұрын

This one is a quad core but no threads

Very good and informative content on a subject that is not really heard of anywhere else (perhaps because it does not sell enough papers?). I, for one, would love to see more of this type of reporting.

I loved my Cyrix

i thought via never left

Give 'em 10 years. That's how EVERYTHING Chinese starts. Then they take over the entire industry little by little...

@sexysilversurfer

4 жыл бұрын

raven beast at the moment it’s a lack of quality control and innovation, many Chinese study in top western universities and then return. This is changing as Chinese companies are now competing with Japanese and American companies.

@PalCan

4 жыл бұрын

More like 2-3 years.

@Adurianman

4 жыл бұрын

@ Yeap, same as the japanese in the 60s, first making cheaper clones, then optimising and finally being at the forefront. Or some eastern european countries for component manufacturing.

@gangwu4541

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian L in fact, every country Does that at some point.

@moby1kanob

4 жыл бұрын

not after they get punished for lying about the Wuhan Flu....they are in deep shit.

Okay, this was a very informative and it's very great! This is truly informational, and neutral. When my company takes off, I will donate to Patreon!

My Intel Celeron 900 equipt Dell Inspiron - "Finally a worth opponent, our battle will be legendary!"

Trillion Core?! What is this nonsense Steve?! Informative video once again

Maybe it should be renamed "Trillion Hour" to reflect the render and loading times.

@psycronizer

3 жыл бұрын

oh, don't be so DIRTY, SANCHEZ.....there I said it....

Given the complexity of the subject because of the politics and history of how we got here, he did a great job presenting it. kept it mostly interesting.

so when he did the ad and lobbed the fone across the room to test ear bud range... i finished watching the ad because i remembered why i watch these videos.

兆 can mean either mega/million or trillion. We're not even at a trillion transisors on current reticle limits lol.

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

We're also not at a million cores. Pretty sure the name is not meant to imply the specs on the product. Very ambitious on the naming!

@matosmatos9292

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus maybe they are saying it takes a million minutes to complete their benchmarkd

@metal_brrr_2005

4 жыл бұрын

兆 means mega (million) in electronic context.

@MrGencyExit64

4 жыл бұрын

How do you get anything done in a language that has that kind of ambiguity? Numbers should be constant :)

@ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrGencyExit64 it's all dependent on context. for example, the word "theory" In a scientific context is vastly different from its normal definition.

I'm ready with my Cyrix T-Shirts from when I worked there in the 90's. Go Cyrix!

@CH-pv2rz

3 жыл бұрын

Were you there for the big robbery? They say it was an inside job...

@fogllama

3 жыл бұрын

@@CH-pv2rz No. That was before my time there.

@richardtucker5686

3 жыл бұрын

You realize, your version of hell will be attempting to configure and overclock Cyrix in every motherboard configuration, just as payback of the frustration you caused humankind. LOL

@fogllama

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardtucker5686 Ha! In my defense, I was in IT, not engineering.

@richardtucker5686

3 жыл бұрын

@@fogllama Thank God, because fried oven is what you get if you overclock a cyrix processor

Steve is the most sarcastic person I've ever seen that can make it sound super serious haha

With the US banning chip sales to Huawei today. This video was great for understanding the gap between a US & Chinese chip maker. Good work!!!

I love the research you do and how deep you go with things. Your definitely the most informative electronics channel I watch. Keep the good info coming!

By far this is my favorite sorts of content from you guys. These sorts of inside baseball history type of stuff is hard to come by especially in tech space. Thanks and keep these types of video coming! Also check out Technology Connections, they do historical contents on tech as well!

There was a lot of information in this video which makes it hard to listen too. But was interesting none the less. Congratulations to all involved the amount of research was phenomenal. Good work guys and keep healthy.

I really enjoy these Chinese hardware analysis videos. It let's us see hardware that we would never buy for ourselves but might someday become household names. Even if they don't it's just something different. Thanks to Steve, Ian, and Wendel and the people behind the scenes who make this possible.

Pity you can't do a benchmark against a Raspberry Pi 4. That would be interesting.

Thank God it comes with a DVD RW drive. It's a perfect companion for my VIA Nehemiah C3.

Considering it's an early effort, I don't think it's super terrible and given the politics involve I think it makes sense for them to release something like this. I wonder if there is special government pricing they are hoping consumers will subsidize, perhaps out of patriotism?

I genuinely want to see what China can do with another 5 years of RnD and experience. Color me curious

can you buy more cpu's to display next time? i don't think your collection is big enough :P

Gn:"We have installed windows for a more controlled environment" Chinese government "...."

@PunxTV123

4 жыл бұрын

GN: Let me bully your processor Chinese: Let me bully your people, covid-19 here I come.

@niuchajianfa6222

4 жыл бұрын

@@PunxTV123 u better run

@JaredHaer

4 жыл бұрын

@@PunxTV123 Wow that is dumb. Witch Doctor, you are not good at the internet. But maybe you would like to work propaganda operations for the government. Yes I know you were joking. It's a lame joke, that has propaganda features. Don't do that, it's not cute or clever.

@Stoney3K

4 жыл бұрын

Chinese government: "Crap, these guys are only typing in English. There goes our plan for spying on the world right from the silicon!"

@JaredHaer

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stoney3K okay that's really out of touch, or a joke so subtle and missing that it doesn't work

Great content. Glad I found your channel again. Keep up the good work.

Nice original content. The historical contexts are significant and a trip down memory lane for an old tech nerd like me. I’ll try to buy something on the store, I’d like to keep seeing more of this - even if the product is unimpressive. Thanks!