The back half of the video contains a history on Chinese operating systems, like NeoKylin Linux, Ubuntu Kylin, Galaxy Kylin, and more. Watch our ZhaoXin ZX-C+ 4701 CPU review here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X3iV0MqncbapnLQ.html Watch our Air vs. Liquid cooler benchmark: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYquuqqOhNSrZ6g.html TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Initial Overview of China's CPUs 04:29 - THTF System Specs & Pricing, ft. Lenovo 08:00 - Simple System Benchmarks 12:00 - Government Motive for This PC 13:42 - Inside the System, PCIe Routing, & Chipset 16:45 - S3 GPUs & C640 19:27 - Thermal & Power Tests, BIOS 21:30 - Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse 23:00 - History of China's Operating Systems (Windows Clones, Linux, FreeBSD, & Unix) 32:50 - Conclusions

@chrisparussin5359

4 жыл бұрын

Gamers Nexus can you test the HiSilicon server cpus which are not-arm and not-x86 ?

@letterslayer7814

4 жыл бұрын

$1000 and you can't even play gta5? sign me up please!

@EVPointMaster

4 жыл бұрын

I see KZread now lets you break up the video into different parts/topics. A cool feature, but still not as good ad the GN timebars

@leexgx

4 жыл бұрын

If it was $50 or £30 it might be worth it (ssd and the monitor probably costs more then the system it self)

@patrickallen1087

4 жыл бұрын

What's with the set of rims next to you. They look good but kind of weird to see on tech channel.

"Technical term it sucked." the best quote ever

@simoSLJ89

4 жыл бұрын

11:11

@dsilverleaf4668

4 жыл бұрын

@ GN tshirt quoteable?😉

@illusory9579

4 жыл бұрын

Take a look at Huawei's Kunpeng server processor, you know how strong it is

@pranktank6545

4 жыл бұрын

After seeing my nearly decad old system get 8000+ points in the benchmark. I hope they get their performance up or they will have a real hard time keeping up with requirements for software let alone actual work loads on this thing imagine folding on this.

@dominicbritt

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but in 5 years it won't and Intel will be dead and buried.

Mad respect to Steve (and the GN team!) for daring to cover sensitive topics like silicon politics! Even more mad respect for doing it with both style and elegance.

@VeritasEtAequitas

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately he didn't coverthe reasons for these existing: US and Israeli hardware, firmware, and microcode backdoors.

@randomlyentertaining8287

Жыл бұрын

@@VeritasEtAequitas Said as if China doesn't do things like that.

Yay Steve, you rock at pronouncing those crazy Chinese part names

@KCS_

4 жыл бұрын

Actually a bit sub par but it's above average for foreigners

@milohajek

4 жыл бұрын

@@KCS_ Yes, perhaps but as someone who speaks Czech, Russian, German, English and some French, Japanese and a very little Chinese, i would also be capable of saying this like Steve does but he has a good flow, much better then most TV news people or politicians.

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

@@milohajek Thanks! I've been studying Chinese for about a year. I still need to work on my tones.

@milohajek

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus No problem, glad to comment, and thankful for the "Thanks", i think Linus is jealous of your ability to speak long statements without stuttering, "ums" or other pauses (i'm referencing the "roast of Linus Sebastian...") when they said your voice can put people to sleep, that's just Envy on their part), you do a great job of conveying large amounts of data in a clear consistent tone, Job well done. If you ever need help with testing, i have 30+ years of I.T. experience including 7 years of building systems for a mid level system builder, Can't wait for the next video.

@lagarona851

4 жыл бұрын

Djau Shun

My wife walked in and said “oh, you are watching Computer Dave Grohl again.”

@nicholasjoseph9062

4 жыл бұрын

Tell your wife. TECHJESUS

@wes9451

4 жыл бұрын

Computer Jesus..!

@thefightscout

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@poulpork9338

4 жыл бұрын

She's a keeper, knows who Dave Grohl is ;)

@leafbelly

4 жыл бұрын

Really? I don't think he looks anything like Dave Grohl, other than the fact they both have long hair.

as a Chinese I really appreciat how hard you try to pronounce these names, and you are doing a good job of it too. as for why Im watching this on YT? I cant even find anybody in china doing a review of it.

@user-pb7oj3tv4g

4 жыл бұрын

没想老外会对山寨VIA的处理器感兴趣😋😋😋

@michaelzhou2819

4 жыл бұрын

There are discussion on it all over these years as geeks always have high hopes on our own CPUs. So far the CPU is functional for office work which is already a good step forward. SSD, memory and panels are all catching up recently

@kiplinghu

4 жыл бұрын

其实b站就有跑分的

@kiplinghu

4 жыл бұрын

婷婷黄 因为这个兆芯其实是以前cpu三国争霸的Cyrix的孙子。

@fatihnri2484

4 жыл бұрын

Social credit gone.

Also I love how the Barrowch just utterly dominates the set. What an absolute unit.

@Lummify

4 жыл бұрын

Have to admit I prefer the Kitten thats hidden behind it......

When you mentioned the PC had a FSB of 1333 MHz I wondered if that terminology was still appropriate but then I wondered if the memory controller was still in the chipset. Then you mentioned it was. I'm impressed that you were able to switch back to a context from so long ago.

Something has confused The Verge? Will wonders never cease!

@AnthonyP2A

4 жыл бұрын

When the Verge deals with anything computer - nothing good can happen. They've proved it before and it's sad to see them continuing to shoot themselves in the foot.

@Shotblur

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyP2A Not too sad. Verge is a rag.

"No foreign components" American Megatrends, Inc Bios. Helloooo backdoor.

@kevinpedersen5290

3 жыл бұрын

its almost like steve addressed this. "they want to move towards no western hardware but aren't there yet" You likely aren't going to have any backdoors when it is a fully implemented ban.

@karibu1404

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinpedersen5290 none except the CCP backdoor ofcourse

@bjorn1583

3 жыл бұрын

@@karibu1404 CCP spies on its own while the CIA spies on the whole world, l dont blame china for wanting to get away from western tech

@karibu1404

3 жыл бұрын

@@bjorn1583 do you truly believe that they stop at their own people?

@bjorn1583

3 жыл бұрын

@@karibu1404 EVERY western gov spies on everyone already so who cares if another joins the party

The sad thing is, this thing probably beats out the computer I played on before I got a job and built my current one. I didn't spend $1,000 on it when I bought it like 10 years ago, though. I'll never forget playing Skyrim and Fallout 3 at 640x480 with textures as close to disabled as they could get at 5 FPS.

@OOZ662

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, I played with that too, and I got a solid 10 FPS until an Oblivion Gate was loaded in the same cell, then it dropped to about 3.

@jakeroscoe8238

8 ай бұрын

I began gaming on a netbook. A Samsung nc10 I believe it was. I’ll also never forget playing oblivion at like 10 fps, and trying desperately to do whatever I could to raise performance.

wow, as a Chinese, I have to admit your pronunciation is way above average.

@Diamond_Hanz

4 жыл бұрын

Wwwaaaaa? Only thing I understood was wa and bu 😁

@qanononabong8491

4 жыл бұрын

His hair assists with translating.

@MeatGoblin88

4 жыл бұрын

@@Diamond_Hanz even if those are the only things you could understand it's still above average because most people would be completely unintelligible!

@steffydouglas

3 жыл бұрын

I am going to play world of war craft with my cousin Gwen when I get my red -cyber power gaming computer and I am going to play world of war craft with my cousin Gwen 24/7!!!!))

Thank you for making me feel better about my Athlon 200GE.

@sadmonstaa

4 жыл бұрын

Trust me, the 200GE is an awesome little APU. I'm in love with it, the 2200G and the new Athlon 3000GE.

should oc it with Ln2 and see how far you could go :P

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

Wish we could!

@Bobzillaaaful

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus i bet the "airflow" is amazing :)

@JB-ym4up

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus you will need the ln2 to unlock the other 999,999,999,996 cores.

@happygimp0

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus Can you replace some crystals/XTALs with higher clocked versions? Would that work?

@field33P

3 жыл бұрын

​@@happygimp0 I wonder whether it's possible to modify the UEFI like BIOS mods were made for machines back in the days when overclocking was still possible using the FSB

Enthusiast space: intel, amd. Optimistic space: zhaoxin

@theexplosionist2019

4 жыл бұрын

If the NSA are a threat then the Zhaoxin would be a good choice. No backdoor Management Engine / PSP.

@KrotowX

4 жыл бұрын

@@theexplosionist2019 Except same NSA like niceties of Chinese origin. Pick your poison.

@nanakoyuki5649

4 жыл бұрын

@@KrotowX Only the NSA backdoors have been proven though.

@xponen

4 жыл бұрын

@@kleist5083 a non-american would say "yes" because some of them is anti-American and some of them is anti-China but really they will use either spyware as long as it get good price or specs.

@herrerasauro7429

3 жыл бұрын

@@xponen americans love to forget they've been caught red handed intercepting e-mails from chiefs of historical allies. My country's (which Is a historical ally) president comunication was compromised and the lack of a big stink about it really annoys me.

I almost spit out my coffee when you said Atom level...thought you meant Adam (Coleco) level. Man I'm getting old hahaha

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

Via CPUs and S3 graphics? That's a blast from the past!!! 33:17 Note that $1017 is the *retail* price. Volume discounts *will* apply.

@Shotblur

3 жыл бұрын

Reminder that these are intended for the government, a captive market due to restrictions. I don't think they're going to get much of a deal.

@Stoppskylten

2 жыл бұрын

Governments, just like the medical care, are usually fine with overpricing anyway. It's simply good business. To treat yourself. Buyer: "A €10000 power-drill?" Distributor: "Yes, but it's in a lovely sanitary white and chrome design!" Buyer: "We'll take 10!"

@mytech6779

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shotblur That isn't how the communists operate. They don't have a price, the factory is just told "make this" and provided the raw materials and labor.

That tower same design with our office lenovo units 😂

@awesomecomputers7076

4 жыл бұрын

Probably cuz Lenovo helped manufacture it since Lenovo is Chinese

@angelobronte1452

4 жыл бұрын

Chinese call Lenovo as American consciousness due to its some notorious operations. lol

Considering that many governments in the world are still pretty much using Windows XP or earlier, (I had to apply for my company name on a Windows 2003 machine here in high tech Singapore). Civil servants are also not likely to worry about processing time of their work. And the computer is going to be paid with taxpayer's money. I think these CPUs are fit for purpose.

@JWTan84

4 жыл бұрын

from a capitalist standpoint, it's much more preferable from direct subsidy. but yeah well, still it sucked.

@MotoCat91

4 жыл бұрын

@If you laugh you sub! Ahem. interestingengineering.com/putin-still-uses-windows-xp-and-looks-like-he-gives-no-damn This man might disagree with you

@Floortile83

4 жыл бұрын

@If you laugh you sub! Not true. All the computers in my office building still use xp. About 30 of them. Our other locations I assume still use xp too. I also know our local library still uses xp.

@ThePr0Br0

4 жыл бұрын

@If you laugh you sub! Hospitals, factories, control centers, all windows XP. Because it is lightweight and more stable*. *much more stable when doing one thing

@narfdurtotem8110

4 жыл бұрын

In Brasil it is Vista or w7

I get it now. The Verge. They have that name because they are on the verge of being competent.

@IvanNOFX

4 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding?! They're not even close.

Oohhhh new segmented timeline, I like it a lot, built in timestamps.

@EcoAcid

4 жыл бұрын

I hate it

I really love you content, dry humour and honesty. Please keep your content coming. I love listening to your stuff while working.

This is super interesting. I hope you can get your hands on one of these more recent ZX-E based machines, just to see what kind of progress they've made since. Given that the end goal is to replace foreign products with their own home grown chips in data centers, there is no doubt that they'll keep working hard on this.

Just noticed that KZread now has chapters. Awesome feature and thank you for taking the time to include them (unless it grabbed them from the timestamps?).

The new timeline segmentation and labeling is awesome and I hope you guys keep doing this. Never knew youtube could do this.

direct die cooling. China knows how to impress overclockers:)

@steffydouglas

3 жыл бұрын

Which is why I will be moving to China when I am 30 years or 35 years old or 37 years old

As a Chinese, I have to say, nice pronunciation on those Mandarin terms.

@user-pb7oj3tv4g

4 жыл бұрын

他还说了几句汉语，发音很标准啊

@jkc3738

3 жыл бұрын

你整天as个什么东西啊

Really interesting video. Thank you for taking the time (and spending the money) to bring us this kind of information. I wouldn't ever hear about this anywhere else.

Actually pretty cool to see a reviewer of any kind to take time and learn to pronounce the language. (In Steve’s case he actually learned Chinese Mandarin)

freaked me out when you started speaking in Chinese for a sec regarding the warranty sticker xD good one!

This system is evidently not meant for the consumer market and especially not for export. It seems to be a thin client pc for government offices and municipalities, public libraries law enforcement financial institutions etc to replace the intel and amd thin clients currently in use. For that purpose it is completely adequate.

@hjy2187418

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, also military desk job, Chinese government is very paranoid after Snowden incident, not to mention all the intel me security issue exposed over the year. Most of these gov machine now are still on intel, running with hard switch dual system

@T4CFantasy

4 жыл бұрын

And still not worth it..

@BonBaisers

4 жыл бұрын

@@hjy2187418 No need to be paranoid. Check USA laws on american brands and manufacturer. The law make them implement backdoors and communicate any information they hold on a non-american company without justification. Even NSA produce their own processors and hardware as far as I know.

@PunxTV123

4 жыл бұрын

I think they can build better just lika huwaei phone. but they're too lazy...

@soupwizard

4 жыл бұрын

@@T4CFantasy Depends on what the real cost is. Internal government cost could be much lower in volume.

Just noticed the chapeter headings on the video. Thanks for that, sometimes I wanna go back and see something specific I can jump pretty easily.

I SO love your channels content. I can't get enough!

Knowing Chinese is really useful, especially when you're looking at sketchy hardware online

@steffydouglas

3 жыл бұрын

Yay chinese people

@SnifferSock

2 жыл бұрын

It's even more useful when trying to escape a labor camp.

@MrViki60

18 күн бұрын

​@@SnifferSock this has been debunked.

I love these reviews of unusual hardware. It would make my whole month if you decided to do something similar with a Raptor Talos II system!

@SuperPhunThyme9

4 жыл бұрын

Does it feature the fatty Dove Racing?

Fascinating video, was unaware of all the politics around silicon there. Great stuff. Will be interesting to see how long it takes them to catch up, if ever.

Yo, this new KZread thing where it's splitting the playback bar into labeled sections is pretty nice.

@Shotblur

3 жыл бұрын

It's done manually by time stamp labeling in the description.

I wopould really like a security expert to review the computer+native OS to check for backdoors and """telemetry""" on this system. This would be valuable, but this is a gaming channel.

This is so weird watching... I work at a Lenovo Authorized Reseller/Repair Center lolol I do purchasing and see all of this but Lenovo Branded. Can't wait to show the boys at work!

Appreciate your speaking in Mandarin @6:59, pretty exact tone! Cool! Keep the great factory videos coming after global lock-downs are over.

Woah. The timebar has segments on it for each section. That feels new. Also a nice feature.

Got to give them; They have the right idea with the NeoKylin / Ubuntu Kylin etc. Make it as windows like user interface as possible at first to minimize learning. Once people get accustomized with it and the backend, they can start slowly changing it. This is what is missing on the linux world, i know i could get tons of people to move to Linux if there was very precisely similar UI to windows available so people don't have to re-learn basic usage at first, just package management / how to install apps would be initially odd and weird. These days for gamers it would be super simple too with steam + proton :)

@catriona_drummond

4 жыл бұрын

I LOVED that OS part in the video. I am so sick of Windows 10 but I have never ever used Linux in my 30 year PC career so a Linux based system that looks and feels like windows 7 is THE DREAM. I am actually desperately googling how to get an iso of that NeoKylin. No luck though :(

@skaltura

4 жыл бұрын

@@catriona_drummond Kubuntu is somewhat close, does not quite look but the main things work as expected and share parts of the UI logic. Linux power is in the shell tho. but do give kubuntu a try :) Personally i use Ubuntu with Xfce (Essentially Xubuntu but less known flavor) myself right now, but about to change to Kubuntu

@Starcrafter23

4 жыл бұрын

@@catriona_drummond There are plenty of ways to make Linux look like Windows already though. For example for KDE Plasma there are Windows 10 skins. Personally my first experience with Linux was in school, we were using openSuse, which I later installed on my old laptop to revilatize it and... it was a nightmare. Recently though I got interested in Manjaro, installed it and I've been using it for about a year now exclusively, I was AMAZED how much easier it is to use than Windows is (not saying that Manjaro is the only one that's simple to use, plenty of Linux distros are). Want to install something? Just type in what you are looking for in package manager and everything is downloaded and installed for you, no need to search through websites! Oh, and searching for stuff actually works, so that's nice. Basically unless you absolutely require certain programs that straight up don't work on Linux (like PhotoShop), Linux can offer a smoother experience than Windows

@hjy2187418

4 жыл бұрын

These os are focused on gov office & military deck job etc, your average town hall staff who is familiar with windows xp for their whole life is not gonna be bother to learn windows. Thus they design these way. Kirin os was originally designed to be push to general public, but of course it failed

@KingHalbatorix

4 жыл бұрын

@@Starcrafter23 did manjaro not shit the bed on you at some point? My install lasted 8 months before xorg.conf got so fucked I had to manually startx from a TTY every time I rebooted or changed user, and a month after that it would softlock on sleep or hibernate. Manjaro had absolutely the smoothest integration of KDE I've ever seen, but it's also by far the least stable distro I've tried. That's including Arch, SUSE Tumbleweed, and Debian Sid; all three of which are true rolling releases unlike manjaro. I also really don't recommend the AUR, some of those packages are put together by complete lobotomites.

Steve admitted to using a 220 volt outlet just to use a hair dryer at home. Granted nothing is too good for that level of hair so I don't blame the guy.

@mattBLACKpunk

4 жыл бұрын

probably a clothes drier tbh

@AstralS7orm

4 жыл бұрын

It's probably a chinese drier. :) USA is special with its voltage.

@S.ASmith

4 жыл бұрын

@@AstralS7orm or a UK or European one. Maybe it's Mielle. 240V > 120V Lower transmission current, less losses, lower power bills.

@joshcalloway-cortes5532

4 жыл бұрын

Clothes Dryers are 240v in the US.

@MaartenKok

4 жыл бұрын

This surprised me, do American homes have separate outlets for driers with 240V? Do they have a transformer in the house or something?

Great review Steve, thank you. 👍

I'm glad to help with translating Chinese. BTW I thought in the last video you said WuDaoKou means Five-Road Crossing. It actually means Fifth Road Crossing. Not even most Beijing locals are clear about that. But it was the 5th road crossing on Beijing-Zhangjiakou railway and got the name.

Wait, you mean to tell me a well known bastion of computer knowledge like The Verge somehow got it wrong in their article? I just can't bring myself to believe it with how amazing their How to Build a Computer video was.

Thank you for making my quarantine bearable

I'm a lot more curious about how secure it is than about benchmarks honestly. Like, I suspect this was developed specifically with that in mind - they even manufactured a chip without the Management Engine or the Platform Security Processor. What I'm most curious about: - Will it accept a TPM (Trusted Platform Module)? And Which versions? - Does the CPU have any Chinese equivalent of a Management Engine/Platform Security Processor? - How secure are any network interfaces that may be built into the system? - Does it come without wifi functionality? If it does come with wifi capabilities, is that something you can remove? - Same question as before, but about bluetooth - What is the bios like? What security options exist there? - Is it possible to install other operating systems on it? Specifically, what about an OS designed around security? It'd be interesting to see someone try to install qubes on there. Probably wouldn't work though lol.

As far as the 220-240 Volt problem: You can get a simple transformer, which used to be common before adaptive power supplies. The simplest systems just are two sets of copper windings in a 1:2 ratio. There might be smarter systems.

Should send some pictures to Buildzoid so he can make a motherboard revier and vrm analysis for shits and gigles

@virtualtools_3021

4 жыл бұрын

This motherboard has a one-eighth phase vrm providing ample power to the 8 watt chipset

@BrunodeSouzaLino

4 жыл бұрын

Without knowing the technical specs of the CPU?

The "Sectioning" of the video.. I appreciate this!

That Chinese about warranty sticker is actually pretty good. Though we don't often use "Bao Zheng" for warranty, it's more like guarantee.

@rikwisselink-bijker

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping someone in the comments would provide a translation, but so far I haven't found someone.

@LucienneGainsborough

4 жыл бұрын

@@rikwisselink-bijker well that's literally Steve's next line. 99% authentic.

My college had Dell Optiplex machines and Apple iMacs. The only IBMs we got were the laptops that were loaned out to students from our IT department.

@michaelilie1629

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ its... Jason Bourne

The term "中标" in "中标麒麟" is the abbreviation of "中国标准", which could be translated to "Chinese standard".

@user-pb7oj3tv4g

4 жыл бұрын

这机器不是跑XP专用的吗，比如报税用的并口…

@JinFX

4 жыл бұрын

LOL it says right on their logo standard software.

I love your video's, please keep it up, great job.

Whoa whoa whoa! When did KZread start making the ability to mark and label timestamps directly into the timeline? Have I missed this until now? It's SUPER cool!

"From the beginning, all of the versions of Kylin have been intentionally skinned to look like Microsoft Windows, such that it would help aid workers in transitioning from Windows into the locally-made operating system, because it minimizes the amount you would have to learn." MS: Windows just got better! We've relocated all your Control Panel options so you get to search for the functionality that you used to know where to find. For example, rather than right-clicking an icon in your systray, simply type "How do I change my DNS server settings _this_ year?" into the Start menu and you will be presented with a short sequence of incantations. "Under Appearance Options, there's also a Classic Mode which brings back the previously publicized XP skin from the older NeoKylin releases." MS: ...? One-click access to whatever user interface you're most comfortable with? Consistency between releases? _What is this mysterious technology?_

"None of us can kan dong zhong wen zi" lmao this is great

Great video Beve!

Timestamp titles next to the time, that's new! Fascinating

Petition to call all future Chinese server CPUs the "Xi-On line"

@bananya6020

4 жыл бұрын

SIGNED

@enkidoodoo

4 жыл бұрын

SIGNED

@diehard6953

4 жыл бұрын

SIGNED

@ronsonjames8462

4 жыл бұрын

SIGNED

@kpbotbot

4 жыл бұрын

Count me in

lol immediately thought it looked like a lenovo...my suspicion was confirmed

Loving the new KZread timeline splitting

Very cool and damn interesting, thank you

That damn wheelputer makes me laugh every time I look at it.

Wait what?! A Linux based operating system that looks and feels like Windows 7?! That sounds FANTASTIC!!!! It sounds exactly like my next OS! Now how do I get my hands on an ISO?

@JordyValentine

4 жыл бұрын

Linux OS that look and feel like windows have existed for a very long time. Don't go hunting for a way to install this Chinese government spyware, just use a debian/Ubuntu variant. Any Linux distro can look like windows

@toymachine2328

4 жыл бұрын

I have good luck with Linux Mint

@user-xr3rb6pn9m

3 жыл бұрын

Stock Kubuntu looks and feels very close to Windows 10 by default

@catriona_drummond

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-xr3rb6pn9m I am looking for the 7 design though. Windows 10 looks shit.

@user-xr3rb6pn9m

3 жыл бұрын

@@catriona_drummond you can easily customize Kubuntu so that it looks and behaves exactly the way you want it (I made my KDE look like MacOS just for fun :)). There are plenty of tutorials on how to do that, and that even doesn't involve command line :)

Holy cow! Video chapters! I've never seen a youtube video that supports chapters before, that's great!

I really appreciate that your coverage on Chinese technology seems to be set in a desire to understand and being curious rather than engaging in hysteria or racism. Keep up the good work!

It wouls be interesting to analyze that OS to see if it's equipped with surveillance tools. I'd be surprised if it didn't. "Activating" it may enable these tools, since "activating" the OS would likely identify the user.

@Dan-Simms

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah id love to know how "secure" it is.

@yeet1337

Жыл бұрын

Probably still less than Windows spyware lmao

My schools have always used ancient C2D HP or Dell computers, but those Lenovos are very common online, so, yeah, I've seen the Lenovos.

@ShroudedWolf51

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. I deal with a lot of machines that have been refurbished after being used for over a decade in offices and schools and...I've gotta say, the ThinkCentres M71s, Compaq Elite 8000s, and OptiPlex 780ies can get a surprising amount of work done even despite being....what, like ten generations out of date at this point?

@frizzlefry1921

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShroudedWolf51 I keep a optiplex 360 tower around, reliable and built fairly good. I think there is 2 different quad cores itll upgrade to also but ehhh.

@lepidotos

Жыл бұрын

@@ShroudedWolf51 You can get a lot of work done with even a 350MHz PowerPC G3 (or, I dunno, a 550MHz K6-2), at least for the kinds of workflows most offices and schools have PCs for. My current laptop is the final 15" PowerBook G4.

im liking the new timestamp feature on the timeline here.

5:49 That is a GreatWall GW T-200SHA PSU. There is a chance that it will work on 120V with a different fuse. While they don't have this specific model, all of GW's T-series PSU's on their website work on 100-240V. (Note that A and B series and some server ones do not). They do advertise all the various protections, so if you plug it in to 120V the worst that'll happen in that it will blow the input fuse (under load) (since it's expecting half the current and twice the voltage). Their server power supplies that have dual SKU for each voltage range appear to only differ by the input fuse. Since it's outputting less than 50% load, I expect the default fuse to be fine for 120V use. One non-fuse-related reason it might not work at 120V is the max on-time requirements in the MOSFETS in the 12V rail (3.3 and 5v are derived from 12V so no issues there) Note that it will likely get worse efficiency at 120V. If you do a teardown of it, I would like to see the construction.

i would more be interested how it does with big table calculations, how it deals with office leads in general

@user-vp2wp6ez1k

4 жыл бұрын

WPS has linux version

Just when you think The Verge has gotten off the Struggle Bus they take over as the driver.

@QuadPowerful

4 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when you combine truth with a guess-work of a lazy writer.

25:18 Fun Fact: The Sabertooth Tiger Griffin Thunderzord from Season 2 of Might Morphin Power Rangers (They actually say the full name in dialogue, don't ask) is actually based of a Kirin, as the series MMPR used for the Thunderzord footage, Dairanger, was based on *Chinese* martial arts and mythology. If you ever had your brain itch as a child over why a Griffin mecha didn't have wings, that's because it isn't one. Kind of like how the case for this PC looks like something from a more familiar brand but with livery changes.

Good video guys!

You have to catch the verges news always with tweezers...

@JoelGetzhasauselessurl

4 жыл бұрын

Those aren't tweezers. They're zip ties.

@benchosei9878

4 жыл бұрын

@@JoelGetzhasauselessurl i was being ironic...

The funny thing is Kylin isn't even the first Chinese Red Hat derivative designed to ape the appearance of Windows, the entire Kylin series was predated by another CCP-backed Linux OS called, in a rather appropriate irony, Red Flag. Red Flag started development in 1999 by the Chinese Academy of Science and had a couple moments of prominence in the Chinese computing scene, in 2000 many CCP government agencies were told to replace Windows 2000 installations with Red Flag, and in 2008 internet cafes in Nanchang were being ordered to swap to it from Windows XP. Its development kind of fell by the wayside in the latter half of the 2010s, with many people reporting its discontinuation around 2014, although the specifics are a bit less than clear due to the usual pitfalls of finding information on CCP government projects.

25:30 That threaded double click that modern mouses tend to do fresh from the factory!

That wheel case is insane

"Civ IV turn time just for fun"... yeah I bet a lot of it was had in this test.

guess that depends on your age, my high school was sporting the latest TRS-80 model III with dual 5 1/4 floppy drives, it was sweet :)

Amazing video

I wonder if the chinese variants of Linux that get shipped with their systems will attempt to block contact with either the outside world or try to break the functionality of tools like Tor on the OS level.

@lumpython5351

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, China isn't North Korea, Jinping Xi isn't kim Jun on, Deepin Linux and Ubuntu kylin both don't have any internet restrictions.

The newest variant of this chip has i3/bulldozer level performance but with 8 proper cores/threads. Good enough for business and mid-end gaming.

I believe the Shenzhen Longsys company is the one that bought the Lexar branding and now makes SD and ssd cards.

I very much enjoy these videos on Chinese technology forks.

I'm amazed at how you are pronouncing Chinese 😂 Its kinda funny but it is also mostly correct lol

Wait, since when do we have segmentation in the seek bar? That's pretty cool

@justinbuckley

4 жыл бұрын

This is the first that I am seeing this, It's pretty cool to be honest, this should have been added a very long time ago.

@mikeread5132

4 жыл бұрын

@_nomatter : Thanks for pointing that out - the page source has the time stamps with descriptions - hovering over player bar segments reveals those descriptions - a new feature (to me to see too ... dee doo ;)

@flexpetz55

4 жыл бұрын

what segmentation?

@patricktho6546

4 жыл бұрын

I still cant see those (Firefox on PC and an older App (cant update due to Android Version (newest compatible))

@justinbuckley

4 жыл бұрын

@@patricktho6546 I can see it on a most likely outdated version of Chromium on Windows.

25:32 that start menu bring back memorie-- JK, I'm still using those

I was promised the most swag paintjob ever in the thumbnail. Betrayal!

When you will try to buy Russian PC? Elbrus 801-PC that can emulate x86-64 and have own linux. It cost a lot, but pricing is never lister, because its for order only. Im curious because im Russian.

"our enemy has cyber weapons? Then we will fight in the lag."

mr GN, your excellent rip down and reconstruction of hardware and detailed software success on said hardware is paramount.. if you could do this shit to relationships.. you would quad ya income bro... eye to detail and combative discussion towards the leaders in the field of supply.. = creative mode and magnificent camera angle use.. salute

@roninviking

3 жыл бұрын

nexus, sets the ceiling for china, it is easier to chase and catch up... i think this creates the real free market config.

I really love the new "chapter" system for the videos. I was EXTREMELY confused when I opened the video and it said "Initial overview of China's CPUs" to the right of the time readout, was trying to figure out why for good minute or two lmao. Works great, but is this a public beta testing thing? I told my friend how great it was and he was like "Yeah, I don't see this", I showed him what I see to be sure and he doesn't.

@JordyValentine

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, they never roll out to everyone/every region at once

@XFourty7

4 жыл бұрын

@@JordyValentine I knew they were at least regional, but this guy lives like 3-5 minutes away :P

I guess its made like this to prevent the chinese businessman from gaming at work...

@ZNedja

4 жыл бұрын

This is actually the real answer btw. Every government company is required to use these PC to prevent any form of "entertainment" You can get from a PC.

@musek5048

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZNedja what a wonderful sounding country. so much so that the citizens force themselves to stay there.

@Nicolas-zo6rg

4 жыл бұрын

@@musek5048 well if it can't get worse, why leave amirite? 😂

@brosplit

4 жыл бұрын

@@musek5048 ignoring your sarcasm. ANY company wish their worker to not game at work.

@tristan6509

4 жыл бұрын

fyi these are used as thin clients so it doesnt even matter what PC you're using since it's only used to stream anyways.

I typed first before any of you. But running chrome on a ZhaoXin is that slow

@eval_is_evil

3 жыл бұрын

Took me 9 months. You must have a newer series.

Your Chinese is actually quite ok! I am surprised but upon reflection I guess that's how you got through all those China Mainland / Taiwan factory tours...

@React2Quick

4 жыл бұрын

According to Steve, he's been studying and learning Mandarin for about a year now. He's getting better every time he speaks it seems

Every time Cyrix gets a mention or graphic, I get nostalgic. I use my Cyrix 686 MX T-Shirt as a dust cover for a printer.

(NOTE: POST HAS BEEN EDITED WITH CORRECTION.) ~1000 USD Sounds like China's stuck in the 90s where PCs cost around or even *north* of that. Yeesh. And by that, I am leaning towards whoever decided to make this by scratch... if that is even *really* true. Because that CPU looks like an Athlon XP or Sempron.

@GamersNexus

4 жыл бұрын

It's $1000 USD. At least get the price right. Yes, it's way too much, but you could at least not spread misinformation.

@megakedar

4 жыл бұрын

$1017. You didn't hear Steve

@daviddebroux4708

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus My bad. I thought I heard $1,700. It's an honest mistake. I edited the post with that correction.

@daviddebroux4708

4 жыл бұрын

@@megakedar Yea, I misheard it. Or remembered it incorrectly.

@mruczyslaw50

4 жыл бұрын

Almost all desktop CPUs looks like Athlon XP if you remove IHS.