3 Guy Ritchie Films Have Flopped In 13 Months - Can He Still Direct
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The TJCS crew discuss whether Guy Ritchie can still direct with 3 of his films flopping in the last 13 months.
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Obviously he can still direct, people just aren’t interested in the types of films he’s making recently.
@thedarkemissary
18 күн бұрын
I always tell people, "You get the movies you pay for." That's why Five Nights at Freddys is undoubtedly one of the best movies in the last decade.
@liquadzcod5575
18 күн бұрын
@@thedarkemissaryhahahaha
@Smspodcast_
17 күн бұрын
@@thedarkemissaryanyways
@Smspodcast_
17 күн бұрын
@@thedarkemissarynot even the best movie that came out in the month of its release
@joshuaj.chinda9873
17 күн бұрын
That's the more reason why he shouldn't direct
Guy Ritchie films are original ideas. The general audience does not know most of these films are coming out, his fans keep an eye out for his movies. A lot movies have really basic marketing campaigns now.
I had no idea that these were out. The lack of marketing for these films is an obvious problem
Regarding Jake Gyllenhaal and Henry Cavill not being box office draws; to be fair who is a box office draw nowadays. The days of the box office stars are long gone.
@Andyliberty0923
18 күн бұрын
The films need to be “events”. Not a “ehh, thats a streaming movie”
@LTSJuicy
18 күн бұрын
Facts, I can only think of Tom Cruise as a Draw?, maybe? Keanu Reeves?
@tsheporabekane4172
18 күн бұрын
Timothy Charlamagne, Margo Robbie, Tom Holland, Robert Downey Junior, Jason Mamoa, Leonardo DiCaprio et cetera... My point is, there are actors who still attract box office... Will Smith used to be one of them until recently...
@Davon85J
18 күн бұрын
I do think Henry Cavill is a failed movie star. He just isn’t a big draw at all and he’s had MULTIPLE chances at being a leading man. Gyllenhaal I think has at least stepped back from trying to be a box office draw.
@Dru2037
18 күн бұрын
@@Davon85Jhe doesn't pick good roles
It’s simple Guy Ritchie films at the moment are not being released world wide in theaters at the moment he explained it when the film won’t be in theaters anymore it will be released on prime video everywhere. Your welcome
That’s a marketing problem, not a Director problem. I really enjoyed all three of his films that flopped. All three would be just as good with slightly smaller budgets. Ritchie’s “The Gentlemen” series on Netflix was awesome and the best thing he’s done since Snatch.
@Whatwhatwhat1135
17 күн бұрын
Hahahahahahahahahah. U really believe it all comes down to marketing hahahahahah poor boy
It’s worth noting that these 3 films didn’t or haven’t yet secured theatrical releases across the globe. In the U.K. they were (and will be) sent straight to Amazon Prime Video as ‘Amazon Originals’. So, that’s going to hurt their box office potential for sure. If they did all secure theatrical releases, perhaps it’d be a different story?
@kahlan4106
16 күн бұрын
Ikr? Like i dont get it. Why is Ministry deemed to be a flop here? The Movie isnt even out WORLDWIDE...yet. it only got a theatrical release in the US. Its not even out in Canada either. Of course it cant make as much money as movies who have been released worldwide...
Yet, The Gentlemen tv series has been a massive hit for him and Netflix. So he'll be coming back for season 2 for sure.
The Covenant is criminally underrated. People definitely should have went out and supported that film.
I can’t believe Guy Ritchie made The Covenant so close to those other movies, it’s such a vastly different movie in every sense. A truly emotional and powerful story, I wish more people saw it and wish it had a theatrical release. Worse movies have won Best picture Oscars and I think the Covenant was definitely worthy of a nomination.
@daltonio6001
18 күн бұрын
It did have a theatrical release
@emoney6692
18 күн бұрын
@@daltonio6001 it did?? I had no idea, I saw it on prime one day and saw good reviews. The marketing for this must’ve been terrible, I never saw any trailers for it when I saw other movies in cinemas.
@Erichwanh
18 күн бұрын
@@daltonio6001 It looks like the theatrical release was April 21 '23, with the digital release being May 9 '23. Not a lot of time in the theater.
Is Kris still part of the show?
Perhaps he should make Sherlock Holmes 3.
None of those films had a theatrical release in the uk. Each went straight onto amazon prime.
I’d say that people are very picky in what types of movies they are going to spend money to go see. Most people just wait for the movie to come out on streaming now. I’ll definitely rent the movie when it comes out, but for me to go to the theater I have to know it’s going to be an experience
@PaballoKobe-xh9ve
16 күн бұрын
Godzilla x kong......
Guy Ritchie still better than Zack Snyder
None of his films are released in the UK anymore. All go straight to streaming. A huge chunk of his audience is outside of the USA, and they don't get them on the big screen.
I and my husband just saw Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. We loved the movie and are planning to go back and see it again. I do think that it is a lot on marketing and distribution. First, Amazon has killed it's boxoffice $$ by not putting it in theaters in the UK and Canada where it would make a boatload of money. Secondly, we are older and the only way I heard about it was on an MSNBC interview with Guy Ritchie on Morning Joe. They need to advertise it as based on a true story of the Natzi vs. the Allies that rivals all the adventure and special effects of Indiana Jones, especially the Lost Crusade. It is fun and you need to attract younger audiences as well as us history buffs whose grandparents or parents lived through World War II. Of course the two movies that pre-viewed MUW, a sci-fi and a horror film that will probably make big bucks...Gag me.
Why has this film not been released in India? While not many people know Guy Ritchie here, Cavill has a fan following. And the trailer indicates the type of film that would attract the audience.
Keeping his films out of uk cinemas feels like either a cunning strategy or a stunning misstep
Let's not forget The Gentleman series as well.
All 3 have been excellent and my theater opening weekend was packed but advertising was terrible. Dis see a trailer until 2 weeks before
LOVED the Covenant. Guy is still good, I just think all movies are struggling to get audiences right now.
The Covenant really is an excellent film. I'd never heard of it before stumbling across it on Amazon and seeing it was a Jake Gylanhall film gave it a watch.
Wish more people saw Operation Fortune. That was a fun one.
Just because a movie doesn’t make money doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie.
@ps2progamer814
17 күн бұрын
who said that?
@joshuaj.chinda9873
17 күн бұрын
You're a horrible critic 😂
@derrickket087
17 күн бұрын
@@joshuaj.chinda9873 So every good movie has to make money? The Shawshank Redemption, The Big Lebowski, Fight Club all weren’t box office hits.
@hungvu-xc3uf
17 күн бұрын
That's true, most Oscar movies are flops. But when 3 in a row by the same guy is a pattern
@drizzyfreckles
12 күн бұрын
Studios want a return on their investment regardless if it’s amazing, great or good. Titles and marketing need to be looked into with GR.
I love Guy Ritchie films. I just don’t think he has an audience like he used too or movie goers just aren’t interested anymore. He knows how to write characters and them unique and interesting
I really like Guy Richie s films but with ever changing landscape of the theatrical experience & streaming services he could be better served to direct films a smaller budget that debut on streaming services like Netflix & Prime but some blame has to be on the studios marketing team as well for sure.
I like most of Ritchie's films and his The Gentlemen Netflix show, but I think his films generally don't have mass appeal
All his movies are still very fun and enjoyable. Marketing and limited markets dont help.
I saw no ads for gentlemen. Saw Henry drop the trailer. Been waiting for it to come out. Thought it released months ago. Then thought it releases this summer. No idea it’s on screens now.
I don’t think I saw a single ad for this movie
Bad marketing not advertised
@sweeney60
18 күн бұрын
Yes! Almost all his movies have barely any advertising
The gentleman was awesome
While this is true he did just have a big hit with The Gentleman show on Netflix.
@johansvensson833
18 күн бұрын
he has nothing to do with that
@samm8190
18 күн бұрын
@@johansvensson833 he’s literally listed as a creator, director and writer for the series on IMDb.
He's so hit and miss with me these days that I just always wait to rent
I don’t think any of these 3 have gotten releases here in the UK. All straight to streaming
His films seem just fine, the issue is I'm not sure he's for a mainstream audience anymore. His films kinda have a lot of nuance, fun, and take a lot of chances. Modern audiences say they want something different but they really just want a... by the numbers film that just does the same ole stuff the last movie did.
- Only released in US theaters - go figure!🙄 Three guys and not a brain between them🤣🤣
the covenant launched on Prime video in most territories so it's not really a bomb
MUW was extremely good. My gf and I were so happy that we saw it.
I feel like it’s also a movie price thing. It’s $30 for two tickets, $40 plus if you want IMAX, Dolby or 3D. Then Snacks are an Easy $30. It’s a fucking pricey time to be a movie fan. No one is gonna go see a fun Guy Richie film if it costs $50-$60 to do so
@ronpetersen2317
18 күн бұрын
I went on a Tuesday ... ticket cost $5. You can also hit up a matinee as well which for me would have been $10.50. But I am trying to make a habbit of hitting the theaters on those discount Tuesdays after work. Some theaters have special prices on Tuesdays. I spent $17.50 total but that was because of the popcorn and drink. Dolby is pretty standard ... I could careless about Imax and 3D is a worn out gimmick.
@Vysedragon
18 күн бұрын
@@ronpetersen2317 Let’s look at what you said. You wanna go on special priced days or matinee. Most people aren’t money savvy or don’t have the time but also take into account schedule differences or work. So naturally they wanna go see it at night or during the weekend. This eliminates people like yourself who are choosing to go see it during a lower priced time. I mean even then you spent basically $20 to go watch a movie on a lower priced day. Thats a steep cost for one person. Imagine a family of four or even just a couple. The whole extras may not appeal to you but I think they are what appeal to masses when going to watch a film in theaters nowadays. You can watch regular movies at home, but you can’t have a 3D or IMAX experience there.
@ronpetersen2317
17 күн бұрын
@@Vysedragon They have matinees on Saturdays ... they just need to not sleep in until noon is all. Most people aren't money savvy? Well they have bigger problems if then expecially with this economy. I am going again next week. I will be skipping the popcorn and drink. $5 ... if that is too much then you have bigger problems anyway like being homeless. I am not even seeing movies listed as 3D. As for watching 3D at home ... they had 3D TVs a few years ago .... nobody wanted it. Sure you can watch movies at home. But that is like $25 ... I can spend $5 and get the theater going community experience. You also don't have a 60 foot wide television at home. Sorry you think $5 is a lot of money ... hope you find a job soon.
I never heard of The Covenant, I remember seeing a trailer for Operation Fortune and was planning on seeing it but I don't remember it being theaters, and I had planned on going to Ungentlemanly Warfare but it's not in theaters here. If you want people to see your movie, you have to advertise it and you have to put it in the theater.
The Man From U.N.C.L.E would have been a sick series. Hope Guy could have explored that more.
Heard the covenant was really good
The past several films Guy Ritchie films like Wrath of Man, The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, and The Covenant (which Dar Salim should have been nominated for best supporting actor) were really great and i really enjoyed all of them.
Can we just admit he needs to do Sherlock Holmes 3. Him and Downey jr are 🔥
The problem is nowadays I don't even know when movies release. Like I wanted to see the movie had no idea was out already.
@grumpyrock
17 күн бұрын
Use google
@MrFantastic23
17 күн бұрын
@@grumpyrock yup
One of the only directors to put back to back projects The gentleman, wrath of man and operation fortune plus the covenant etc plus a show on netflix
Pandemic and streaming has hurt the movie going experience. People are happy to just watch it online. Unless the studios spend an obscene amount of money on marketing they have no chance.
Of course he can direct. I see a problem with the marketing strategies, and now you said that Amazon got the distribution rights for The Ministry, so considering what they did with Roadhouse, is it really surprising that The Ministry isn't making any money? I really believe there's a problem with the marketing
I don't know how he keeps getting work but I hope he does. He hits more than he misses
Needs to pair up with better writers.
@garvindean6443
18 күн бұрын
Written seems to be fine people just aren't interested in his movies anymore that just it
Operation Fortune was a good movie but it was barely promoted. And the release dates all over were weird as I remember it came out here in New Zealand like a month before the US.
well for start none of the films released in the UK because of amazon prime
@JDE1995
14 күн бұрын
That's been the most frustrating thing. Because Operation Fortune and The Covenant were very good. Even this new one we're still waiting for in Britain. I'd have thought they would have done better theatrically over here than in the US. Plus, you never see these films advertised either.
@joshpaul6417
14 күн бұрын
@@JDE1995 and it would be a better experience in the cinema
@MGTrasky
12 күн бұрын
Same in New Zealand straight to Amazon Prime
@jeffreylawrence6928
12 күн бұрын
@@JDE1995 the ministry of ungentlemanly warfare isn’t coming to Main theatres in the UK -again it’s going straight to prime
All three of these films went straight to streaming in the UK even though Guy is the most british of british directors. They must be leaving some money on the table.
I didn't even know he released two movies prior to the most recent one
I'm still hoping for Sherlock Holmes 3.
I like King Arthur too!!!
The covenant was an amazing movie , which didn't get enough love
@Dru2037
18 күн бұрын
The problem it had was Gerald Butler's Kandahar came out around the same time.
The weird thing is I kept seeing behind the scenes videos on KZread ads, but I never saw an actual trailer for this movie.
I really liked the one out now. It’s really good
Thank you for stating your enjoyment of King Arthur. Bana in the beginning, Jude freaking Law, Hunnam's absolutely dialed in lead performance. What's not to love? I thought it was awesome, basically Snatch in a fantasy setting, with a bit more spectacle. Aladdin was fine. Although I stand with the Original being a better product. The music, and Robin Williams are next level.
Papers please
5:32 I never heard of that operation movie.
I watched Ministry on Tuesday. It was a good solid movie. Plenty of action, good acting etc. A fun movie to watch for sure. It was never going to be a massive blockbuster. I suspect the WW2 genre of it was not a big selling point for younger movie goers. Also ... it might be the closest thing to a Bond Film you might see Cavil in ... he plays the real life person that James Bond is believed to been inspired by.
This is on a slant both operation fortune and the covenant didn't have a theatrical release in Canada. Both went straight to prime
I really liked Ministry but it definitely felt like there was never any sense of danger in the film. Didn’t matter how many bad guys or what was in their way. They never struggled to accomplish the tasks they were trying to do.
@cooperwolfe5478
16 күн бұрын
I agree. I get that maybe to keep the tone a little lighter he didn’t want any of our protagonists to die but I feel like the film would’ve been better if it was more in the vein of The Dirty Dozen
Not been able to watch any of these in the cinema in the UK... all gone to Amazon. So £0 box office return from UK viewers. Maybe another reason the 'flop' tag is thrown at them. Wonder how much Amazon has payed behind the scenes for them???
The title of the film is corny. He shouldve just called it The Ministry of Warfare. The commercials also shouldve be better too. It made the movie come across as goofy.
The marketing for the Covenant was terrible. Im into movies, and i had no idea that was even in theatres.
The Ministry Of Ungentlemanly Warfare and The Covenant are my favorites. Guy Ritchie should make a movie that everyone wants.
Most people are so broke they’ll just wait for it to hit streaming, unless it’s a huge tentpole movie with rave reviews. That’s it. Period! Until wages increase and/or inflation comes down that ain’t changing.
@grim_2000
13 күн бұрын
Although there's a lot of truth in your statement, it's not always like this. FNAF wasn't big or great, for example, but did great at the box office.
@JohnxXxMagnum
12 күн бұрын
@@grim_2000 True but it was an interesting concept with a big enough fan base amongst the kids who grew up playing the game.
Think it’s the painful part a lot of his recent movies tend to release in most countries on prime and only make it to cinema in a few locations
Hey John and Crew im also a big Guy Ritchie fan and Mr Cavill fan..i didnt care for King Arthur though, David Beckham in it was goin too far😂😂..i also loved his new Gentlemen tv show but his new one..thats rough..funny enough. Im from Ireland and we have no release date for the film..not being released in most of Europe and i read no UK release date even though Gut Ritchie is u know, British..whats up with that? i read might be an Amazon release this summer in a lot of Europe instead..damn what happened..trailer looked great😮
Wrath of Man made money and the gentleman by a big margin. The marketing for his latest films weren't good
How does the amount of money a movie makes have anything to do with the quality of it? Most people are over seeing movies in theaters unless it’s something big. And even those movies don’t make much anymore.
@Vysedragon
18 күн бұрын
You have a good take here I mean look at Dune Part 2. It would’ve made over a Billion if it came out a few years ago
@ronpetersen2317
18 күн бұрын
How much it makes matters obviously so they can make the next one. People over seeing movies at theaters are and never were movie fans. The big movies have been tanking because of quality bad writing and other garbage the throw in at the sacrifice of story.
@YTguySmithy-lk6go
18 күн бұрын
The movie industry is dying. The box office is very poor this year. The biggest hit so far Dune 2 and whether that's actually made any profit... who knows. Deadpool 3 and Joker 2 may make 900 Mill ww or more but my guess is 90 percent of films are not going to make any profit or struggle to break even. Cinema is dying.
@ronpetersen2317
17 күн бұрын
@@YTguySmithy-lk6go Ummm no ... we just had a bunch of bad or meh movies is all. A lot are distracted by social engineering attempts and forget about story. Guardians 3 did good. Boy kills world looks awsome. If you think or want cinema to die ... why are you even here?
Operation Fortune was a lot of fun. I haven't seen Gentleman yet, but it looks like Carey Elwes is playing the same character in a different era.
I love King Arthur too.😢
When I see Aubrey Plaza name on anything it's an automatic no
Like MoUW, covenant was only released in the US, it was released on prime internationally at a later date.
@kahlan4106
16 күн бұрын
Thank you for actually doing your research on the FACTS!!! I mean for real now...what do people expect? This Movie is literally not even out yet and some people call it a flop? Why? It was released in the US...and? Im a big Cavill fan but I dont live in the US. Most of his fans live in Europe...and the movie is not out here yet.
@irishboy664
16 күн бұрын
@@kahlan4106 exactly. I still think they should do limited theatrical runs internationally for these movies before going to prime, or do day to day, but alas.
the only 1 he should direct is Sherlock holmes 3
Marketing was horrible didn’t even know this was coming out until I went to see Godzilla and kong 2
I love King Arthur so much
I love his films, don't understand why people don't watch more of them
MoUW which apparently is awkward even in acronym forn, is a great bit of fun. Maybe it's marketing, but sometimes a good film takes an L.
@ronpetersen2317
18 күн бұрын
Easier to just call it Ministry
It's easy to single out Guy. Spielberg is my all time fave director, but... The BFG, West Side Story, Meet the Fabelmans... or even Ridley Scott, who has just as many failures as successes.
@MrDjambronk
14 күн бұрын
Every directors have made a bad movie except the goat Stanley Kubrick.
@grim_2000
13 күн бұрын
@@MrDjambronk the subject is not quality of the movies, but their commercial success
@MrDjambronk
13 күн бұрын
@@grim_2000 oh okay
Jeff up in the building..a fan Jeff!
Guy Ritchie needs to go the M. Night Shymalan route to kick start his career. M Night after a series of flops went the low budget route and that reinvigorated interest in his career and took pressure off for these big box office numbers. He is making decent to good movies these days on small budgets.
@c17sam90
17 күн бұрын
I thinks he’s too posh to want to do that. But almost feel like he needs to go back to his roots and make an small British film again or maybe do something really really different all his films look the same
I think it's poor marketing. I enjoyed his films, and if you look at his films on RT, the percentages of critics and audiences are above average. I've heard of Guy Ritchie's The Covenant, but I didn't know when it was coming out.
@kahlan4106
16 күн бұрын
Poor Marketing is definitely a factor...but also the fact that Guy Ritchie has a new deal with Amazon Prime. They own the international rights to the movie. Lionsgate released it in the US, only. Prime will put it exclusively on their streamer in Canada and europe
There was another film called The Covenant (a lot actually) that is the reason they added his name on the title. research.
at least *he* still gets to direct projects despite flops
He has just released The Gentleman tv show which has been one of the best tv shows this year. Most people myself included think it's better than the movie which is one of his best movies imo.
i went to go but the ticket clerk but he couldn’t understand me when i asked for a ticket and i couldn’t pronounce the name of the film (same happened to Argyl) so I went to see ABIGAL instead😂 05:13 he gets it!
@deadpoo-poo4497
16 күн бұрын
😆😆 you don't have kiosk at your movie theatre?
I saw it last weekend and absolutely loved it. It’s one of my favorite movies of the year so far.
Deamit ma boy Henry can't catch a break, Highlander is gonna be the one lol
@kahlan4106
16 күн бұрын
Actually Ministry is Guy's second biggest opening of an R-rated movie ( after The Gentleman). People here seem to have done absolut no research on Guy Ritchie, his Movies and his new way of releasing them. The Ministry is not a flop. The Movie isnt even out yet. Only in the US.
I don't want to see the umpteenth war movie with some guy. I know the script is apparently in some legal entanglement but if he's not making The Real Rocknrolla, I don't care what Guy Ritchie has to say or do.
I saw it. Good movie.
are we overlooking the ritchson controversy?
@bryanwouters443
18 күн бұрын
you think that's why the movie didn't do well?
@deuceb0i
18 күн бұрын
@@bryanwouters443 it is a valid point to bring up.
@bryanwouters443
18 күн бұрын
@@deuceb0i fair point I just don't think it had anything to do with the movie flopping
@Dru2037
18 күн бұрын
Really isn't controversial
@ronpetersen2317
18 күн бұрын
Who is that?
its Jeff
well duh.. yeah bro.. guy ritchie movies are trash.. you just now waking up to this fact