Just saw the final lineup… im heart broken💔i won’t spoil but you guys have to see it for yourself it just hurts so much😢
@blinksot4stan1013 күн бұрын
Not Mashiro and Bahiyyih are better dancer than Yujin. Yujin dance is always underappreciated. She was the lead rapper of Clc before Eunbin and the lead dancer.
@jannabananaluvs8 күн бұрын
I think a HUGE showing of semi rigging in the show was letting elisia perform in the finals when she was already a confirmed member. bc shes a producer fav she got majority of the lines and stripped away chances for other contestants to shine. this is just more proof that f&f already knew who they wanted to debut and didnt care about anyone else.
@luckycharm34018 күн бұрын
I've just started watching the video but you already went so wrong with the positions, in so many ways. You're objectively wrong, you cant hand out positions like they're free real estate and also not give it to people who deserve the positions. It's such an imbalance of skill for people who have the same positions you assigned them. As much as I hate the no position thing, Kep1er can pull it off, it's probably why only the main positions have been confirmed. That's why your positions don't make sense
@blinksot4stan1013 күн бұрын
I thought I am the only one who noticed. She gave lead dancer position to Mashiro and Bahiyyih but not to Yujin.
@703elee10 күн бұрын
A crappy, fraudulent, borderline criminal company led by crappy, fraudulent, mean spirited, greedy people. Not much more to it than that
@WASz_UP11 күн бұрын
Ok first of all, your only taking Jiyoons side and making up a story to back up Jiyoons side, look nobody knew who voted for who okay? And Fuko didn’t vote for Jiyoon either, But she’s still besties with her. When your in a group more the less in a survival show, you can’t really carry burdens which Jiyoon admited to (which is good that she took responsibility) Also this is clearly evil editing on Jungeuns side and i don’t get how nobody fell for Jiyoons evil editing, But now are eating up Jungeuns evil editing🤷♀️
@leuanprado398711 күн бұрын
They wanted to choose yona to save theirselves
@leuanprado398711 күн бұрын
9:47 thats not gehlee i think thats elisia
@leuanprado398711 күн бұрын
Haram and yuris vocals in dream of girls is unstable
@thelifeofliav11 күн бұрын
VOTE SON JUWON
@nonamenosurname612713 күн бұрын
finally I found someone who wants Gyuri in the final line up. I am cheering for her ever since part 1.
@darcoiriz13 күн бұрын
How come you support Gyuri, a 15 year old, after yapping about minors debuting in the industry in nearly all of your Universe Ticket review series? Personally you made me question the topic back then and it's same reason why I'm not rooting for Gyuri despite how talented she is. I was pretty shocked to see you, of all people, root for her.
@into_orbit13 күн бұрын
I did have a complex about it early on in this show but my cut-off has always been 16 at the youngest and Gyuri is turning 16 in October. It's not ideal but this show does not have any contestant over the age of 19 and barely any over the age of 17. She's the only one in my top3 I would be fine with not debuting. I can understand if you feel I'm being inconsistent with my own morals but the 16 minimum is consistent because that's also a cultural thing (end of compulsory education here). You can choose not to support her for her age and I will cheer you on in that because I do still think the minimum age for debut should be 18, but I've also been clear that I think the first step towards that should be a 16-year cut-off. This show also doesn't have a huge bias against contestants older than 16 and, in a weird way, it makes me feel a bit better about supporting one contestant (whose debut chances are on the lower end) at the very end of my lower limit. Also "yapping about minors debuting" is very dismissive of real concerns people have about exposing very young kids to the industry, especially when most idols who regret debuting young did so at 15 or younger.
@darcoiriz12 күн бұрын
@@into_orbit I get it. I do believe tho, in your UT series you expressed that 16 was THE LOWEST, as in, you were not proud of adding Nana to your lineup at the last 2 episodes, merely bcs there was literally no other option, and it's true, there was fr no other options, I even remember you saying you felt kinda weird supporting 17 year olds, and your ideal limit was 18. I'm sorry if this feels like I'm calling you out on every little thing you said, but at the time you were so severe and it really felt like you were so angry with everyone for supporting underage contestants, kinda like you were telling us off and really imploring us to vote for adults, which ofc, after making a whole awareness segment about it, made sense. So yeah this does feel inconsistent, specially when Gyuri is still a minor, and was far from turning 16 most of the show (as I'm aware, part 1 was filmed really early this year). Also yes, yapping is really dismissive, but it felt a little hypocritical to be continuously serious about a topic and reproaching people for not following that same ideology, and then switching up, hence why it now feels like it was all yapping. But I do apologize, and I get where you're coming from with both shows having different circumstances and approaches to underage idols. Thanks for explaining.
@chuu_guevara10 күн бұрын
sorry for responding but the difference between iland 2 and uni ticket is that all of the iland 2 trainees have little age gap between the oldest and the youngest (now that the 09 liners are gone), the oldest being 2004 and youngest 2008, not that big deal, but in uni ticket there were A LOT of older trainees, a huge age gap between the oldest and the youngest, and hella young trainees, 2011 is way worse than 2008. 2008 liners will be 16 this year so it's not like they're voting for actual children like uticket who the youngest was 11-12 at that time. ofc it's better to have an all-over 18 group but not even half of the iland contestants are over 18 yet. (unlike uniticket)
@Thing1G14 күн бұрын
My current predictions for the final lineup are Jiyoon, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Saebi, and one more "Wild Card" which is most likely Sarang, Jungeun or Gyuri. My bet is on Sarang being the 6th member, but international votes could come to Jungeun's rescue, and Gyuri being consistently in the combined top 6 could be good for her. In the case that the group does end up being 7 and a producer pick, it would probably be Jungeun, even though mnet seems to be abandoning her.
@Thing1G14 күн бұрын
I'm not really upset with Jungeun for the whole leader situation. I understan Saebi wanting to try her hand out as a leader, but we also don't know if she's relieved that Jungeun is taking over a bit to take some stress off her shoulders. And Jungeun is only trying to act as a leader so that they could have the best performance.
@lesserachae16 күн бұрын
i definitely think that yuju should’ve switched parts with koko. saebi offered to give her part to koko which ultimately means part 4 will get a rap. because yuju wanted it for the rap, it would’ve been fair to switch because koko is obviously more outgoing with her movements and has shown improvements time and time again while yuju although didn’t have much opportunity to showcase the dancer position, still had a small freestyle part that she looks lowkey awkward in. but koko slayed so hard with her part that i’m looking at it like a blessing in disguise. side note: i think jungeun is just a natural born leader and couldn’t help but be a little frustrated because there was a timer that no one knew would end up being so she was probably trying to pick up the pace in case it was an important interim check. i do think she should’ve handled it better but i think she will have a redemption arc soon because saebi and her are very close friends anyway. (top 6: saebi, jeemin, jungeun, jiyoon, fuko, koko but i don’t mind gyuri or mai debuting)
@IvyUwU5616 күн бұрын
I love watching your videos, I obviously have my own opinions and different ones too but your videos are usually the ones that I enjoy watching the most because while you may obviously be biased you have common sense which some KZreadrs just completely forget when watching these shows Sarang has always been my number one but I’m glad you mentioned that she did better in the practice because I am really scared people will stop voting for her 😭 VOTE SARANG AND JIYOON ❤❤❤
@skiprank16 күн бұрын
The most unexpected performance on that entire show was Nan, imagine whole team went into low tiers but was on par or even better than high tiered team
@honeybeeami265416 күн бұрын
This show really seems to have a habit or putting the top potential candidates for a role in the group against each other. Trying to see who works and who doesn’t. If you look at all the rivalries made the contestants in question the two always have some sort of shared role or trait. That’s why I think Koko, the top voted dancer, ended up on the rap stage rather than the dance stage this round.
@hevinleigh260416 күн бұрын
“ debut quick scheme” is crazy when she’s been booing this for years and it’s her third survival show
@estantedoph16 күн бұрын
FINALLY a Gyuri supporter, she deserves so much. I think you'll be happy at ep 9
@z0r0z0u7116 күн бұрын
Does anyone know who voted for jiyoon besides herself?
@jsyoungluv16 күн бұрын
sujung was dropped from my top 6 after this episode. even if it’s exaggerated or evil editing on mnets part, they wouldn’t have anything to evil edit if she didn’t say it in the first place. if you want to be on a team you have to be a team player and because of that i don’t think she deserves to debut in this group. i’m also really shocked that nobody is talking about juwon. she’s my absolute top pick rn. shes funny and seems to interact well with the other members, and on top of that is talented as hell. vote juwon and sarang !!
@Lucaate16 күн бұрын
UR GOING TO BE SO HAPPY TO SEE THE NEXT EPISODE!! GYURI REALLY SHOWED OFF!!! (sorry for the slight spoiler)
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
09:13 I wish they weren't pushing Gyuri to the background, it isn't fair. My top need to debut is: Jiyoon and Fuko I expect to debut: Jungeun and Saebi (Saebi and Jeemin are very visually similar and have both had highs so interchangeable) I wish to debut: Gyuri and Mai If they had a 7 member or 8 member group I feel like Gyuri would've gotten a bigger chance but they are so set to not have her debut in the 6, they push her aside
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
06:13 if only Sujung knew that. It once again highlights how Jiyoon should debut because her determination to make sure they all do well and training Mai when a vocal coach should be on site. Sujung got a nasty edit in this episode and I'm gonna put it towards her being in street fighter and having that fight or flight instinct to survive. Obviously if the group doesn't look good, your individual performance would be weighed down Someone on twt used that clip and Jiyoon being asked about Jungeun in the same tweet to talk about "back biting" which is so weird. Jiyoon never said anything mean and just expressed her discomfort.
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
16:40 I agree. I also find it weird the way other survival group artists, like Illit, for example or members of other groups who were on survival shows, like Wonyoung, are criticized for "doing too much" with their faces when thats what ia drilled in them. Saebi got the spot over Koko because her facial expressions. Every episode had someone being pushed to practice facial expressions. They instilled in netizens that facial expression = stage presence, which is wild to think about honestly considering the hate these girls get for their facial expressions after debut
@FlyingPancake039016 күн бұрын
I think it’s important to keep in mind that we also don’t know the timeline of the SaeBi/JungEun situation - they had 12 working hours to learn the song and SaeBi could have spent the first two of those hours, cut by the editors, struggling before JungEun stepped in only to have her suggestions over the course of an hour spliced together to make it look like back to back interjections. They’re zooming in on her blinking because of what looks like her contacts and trying to make it look like she’s being mean.
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
I would like to say that Jiyoon being played as a villain instead of an offended girl is so silly because she is the biggest team player. Besides the tss where she was moping, probably in hopes of someone giving in and getting her a bigger part, she always steps up. She helps with vocals and training the girls Also, her choosing A-Team showed she isn't beefing with Jungeun and is maybe slightly uncomfortable
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
I like how Mai cares and did a great job stepping up as a leader for the creative unit and took it seriously
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
Fuko shined brightest during Fine but Jiyoon blew all the units away with her performance
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
00:37 the iconic trio imo
@hsfhanaa16 күн бұрын
1:20 agree! They became my top 2 and haven't moved since. I also want Gyuri and Mai to debut but I don't think Mai is strong enough to make it in the limited 6 spots (wish it was 7) and I don't think Gyuri has gotten to show us a not cutesy concept which I doubt will be the choice of concept for the final group unfortunately
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ITS RIGGED MAI DEBUTED HELLLOO
Just saw the final lineup… im heart broken💔i won’t spoil but you guys have to see it for yourself it just hurts so much😢
Not Mashiro and Bahiyyih are better dancer than Yujin. Yujin dance is always underappreciated. She was the lead rapper of Clc before Eunbin and the lead dancer.
I think a HUGE showing of semi rigging in the show was letting elisia perform in the finals when she was already a confirmed member. bc shes a producer fav she got majority of the lines and stripped away chances for other contestants to shine. this is just more proof that f&f already knew who they wanted to debut and didnt care about anyone else.
I've just started watching the video but you already went so wrong with the positions, in so many ways. You're objectively wrong, you cant hand out positions like they're free real estate and also not give it to people who deserve the positions. It's such an imbalance of skill for people who have the same positions you assigned them. As much as I hate the no position thing, Kep1er can pull it off, it's probably why only the main positions have been confirmed. That's why your positions don't make sense
I thought I am the only one who noticed. She gave lead dancer position to Mashiro and Bahiyyih but not to Yujin.
A crappy, fraudulent, borderline criminal company led by crappy, fraudulent, mean spirited, greedy people. Not much more to it than that
Ok first of all, your only taking Jiyoons side and making up a story to back up Jiyoons side, look nobody knew who voted for who okay? And Fuko didn’t vote for Jiyoon either, But she’s still besties with her. When your in a group more the less in a survival show, you can’t really carry burdens which Jiyoon admited to (which is good that she took responsibility) Also this is clearly evil editing on Jungeuns side and i don’t get how nobody fell for Jiyoons evil editing, But now are eating up Jungeuns evil editing🤷♀️
They wanted to choose yona to save theirselves
9:47 thats not gehlee i think thats elisia
Haram and yuris vocals in dream of girls is unstable
VOTE SON JUWON
finally I found someone who wants Gyuri in the final line up. I am cheering for her ever since part 1.
How come you support Gyuri, a 15 year old, after yapping about minors debuting in the industry in nearly all of your Universe Ticket review series? Personally you made me question the topic back then and it's same reason why I'm not rooting for Gyuri despite how talented she is. I was pretty shocked to see you, of all people, root for her.
I did have a complex about it early on in this show but my cut-off has always been 16 at the youngest and Gyuri is turning 16 in October. It's not ideal but this show does not have any contestant over the age of 19 and barely any over the age of 17. She's the only one in my top3 I would be fine with not debuting. I can understand if you feel I'm being inconsistent with my own morals but the 16 minimum is consistent because that's also a cultural thing (end of compulsory education here). You can choose not to support her for her age and I will cheer you on in that because I do still think the minimum age for debut should be 18, but I've also been clear that I think the first step towards that should be a 16-year cut-off. This show also doesn't have a huge bias against contestants older than 16 and, in a weird way, it makes me feel a bit better about supporting one contestant (whose debut chances are on the lower end) at the very end of my lower limit. Also "yapping about minors debuting" is very dismissive of real concerns people have about exposing very young kids to the industry, especially when most idols who regret debuting young did so at 15 or younger.
@@into_orbit I get it. I do believe tho, in your UT series you expressed that 16 was THE LOWEST, as in, you were not proud of adding Nana to your lineup at the last 2 episodes, merely bcs there was literally no other option, and it's true, there was fr no other options, I even remember you saying you felt kinda weird supporting 17 year olds, and your ideal limit was 18. I'm sorry if this feels like I'm calling you out on every little thing you said, but at the time you were so severe and it really felt like you were so angry with everyone for supporting underage contestants, kinda like you were telling us off and really imploring us to vote for adults, which ofc, after making a whole awareness segment about it, made sense. So yeah this does feel inconsistent, specially when Gyuri is still a minor, and was far from turning 16 most of the show (as I'm aware, part 1 was filmed really early this year). Also yes, yapping is really dismissive, but it felt a little hypocritical to be continuously serious about a topic and reproaching people for not following that same ideology, and then switching up, hence why it now feels like it was all yapping. But I do apologize, and I get where you're coming from with both shows having different circumstances and approaches to underage idols. Thanks for explaining.
sorry for responding but the difference between iland 2 and uni ticket is that all of the iland 2 trainees have little age gap between the oldest and the youngest (now that the 09 liners are gone), the oldest being 2004 and youngest 2008, not that big deal, but in uni ticket there were A LOT of older trainees, a huge age gap between the oldest and the youngest, and hella young trainees, 2011 is way worse than 2008. 2008 liners will be 16 this year so it's not like they're voting for actual children like uticket who the youngest was 11-12 at that time. ofc it's better to have an all-over 18 group but not even half of the iland contestants are over 18 yet. (unlike uniticket)
My current predictions for the final lineup are Jiyoon, Jeemin, Koko, Fuko, Saebi, and one more "Wild Card" which is most likely Sarang, Jungeun or Gyuri. My bet is on Sarang being the 6th member, but international votes could come to Jungeun's rescue, and Gyuri being consistently in the combined top 6 could be good for her. In the case that the group does end up being 7 and a producer pick, it would probably be Jungeun, even though mnet seems to be abandoning her.
I'm not really upset with Jungeun for the whole leader situation. I understan Saebi wanting to try her hand out as a leader, but we also don't know if she's relieved that Jungeun is taking over a bit to take some stress off her shoulders. And Jungeun is only trying to act as a leader so that they could have the best performance.
i definitely think that yuju should’ve switched parts with koko. saebi offered to give her part to koko which ultimately means part 4 will get a rap. because yuju wanted it for the rap, it would’ve been fair to switch because koko is obviously more outgoing with her movements and has shown improvements time and time again while yuju although didn’t have much opportunity to showcase the dancer position, still had a small freestyle part that she looks lowkey awkward in. but koko slayed so hard with her part that i’m looking at it like a blessing in disguise. side note: i think jungeun is just a natural born leader and couldn’t help but be a little frustrated because there was a timer that no one knew would end up being so she was probably trying to pick up the pace in case it was an important interim check. i do think she should’ve handled it better but i think she will have a redemption arc soon because saebi and her are very close friends anyway. (top 6: saebi, jeemin, jungeun, jiyoon, fuko, koko but i don’t mind gyuri or mai debuting)
I love watching your videos, I obviously have my own opinions and different ones too but your videos are usually the ones that I enjoy watching the most because while you may obviously be biased you have common sense which some KZreadrs just completely forget when watching these shows Sarang has always been my number one but I’m glad you mentioned that she did better in the practice because I am really scared people will stop voting for her 😭 VOTE SARANG AND JIYOON ❤❤❤
The most unexpected performance on that entire show was Nan, imagine whole team went into low tiers but was on par or even better than high tiered team
This show really seems to have a habit or putting the top potential candidates for a role in the group against each other. Trying to see who works and who doesn’t. If you look at all the rivalries made the contestants in question the two always have some sort of shared role or trait. That’s why I think Koko, the top voted dancer, ended up on the rap stage rather than the dance stage this round.
“ debut quick scheme” is crazy when she’s been booing this for years and it’s her third survival show
FINALLY a Gyuri supporter, she deserves so much. I think you'll be happy at ep 9
Does anyone know who voted for jiyoon besides herself?
sujung was dropped from my top 6 after this episode. even if it’s exaggerated or evil editing on mnets part, they wouldn’t have anything to evil edit if she didn’t say it in the first place. if you want to be on a team you have to be a team player and because of that i don’t think she deserves to debut in this group. i’m also really shocked that nobody is talking about juwon. she’s my absolute top pick rn. shes funny and seems to interact well with the other members, and on top of that is talented as hell. vote juwon and sarang !!
UR GOING TO BE SO HAPPY TO SEE THE NEXT EPISODE!! GYURI REALLY SHOWED OFF!!! (sorry for the slight spoiler)
09:13 I wish they weren't pushing Gyuri to the background, it isn't fair. My top need to debut is: Jiyoon and Fuko I expect to debut: Jungeun and Saebi (Saebi and Jeemin are very visually similar and have both had highs so interchangeable) I wish to debut: Gyuri and Mai If they had a 7 member or 8 member group I feel like Gyuri would've gotten a bigger chance but they are so set to not have her debut in the 6, they push her aside
06:13 if only Sujung knew that. It once again highlights how Jiyoon should debut because her determination to make sure they all do well and training Mai when a vocal coach should be on site. Sujung got a nasty edit in this episode and I'm gonna put it towards her being in street fighter and having that fight or flight instinct to survive. Obviously if the group doesn't look good, your individual performance would be weighed down Someone on twt used that clip and Jiyoon being asked about Jungeun in the same tweet to talk about "back biting" which is so weird. Jiyoon never said anything mean and just expressed her discomfort.
16:40 I agree. I also find it weird the way other survival group artists, like Illit, for example or members of other groups who were on survival shows, like Wonyoung, are criticized for "doing too much" with their faces when thats what ia drilled in them. Saebi got the spot over Koko because her facial expressions. Every episode had someone being pushed to practice facial expressions. They instilled in netizens that facial expression = stage presence, which is wild to think about honestly considering the hate these girls get for their facial expressions after debut
I think it’s important to keep in mind that we also don’t know the timeline of the SaeBi/JungEun situation - they had 12 working hours to learn the song and SaeBi could have spent the first two of those hours, cut by the editors, struggling before JungEun stepped in only to have her suggestions over the course of an hour spliced together to make it look like back to back interjections. They’re zooming in on her blinking because of what looks like her contacts and trying to make it look like she’s being mean.
I would like to say that Jiyoon being played as a villain instead of an offended girl is so silly because she is the biggest team player. Besides the tss where she was moping, probably in hopes of someone giving in and getting her a bigger part, she always steps up. She helps with vocals and training the girls Also, her choosing A-Team showed she isn't beefing with Jungeun and is maybe slightly uncomfortable
I like how Mai cares and did a great job stepping up as a leader for the creative unit and took it seriously
Fuko shined brightest during Fine but Jiyoon blew all the units away with her performance
00:37 the iconic trio imo
1:20 agree! They became my top 2 and haven't moved since. I also want Gyuri and Mai to debut but I don't think Mai is strong enough to make it in the limited 6 spots (wish it was 7) and I don't think Gyuri has gotten to show us a not cutesy concept which I doubt will be the choice of concept for the final group unfortunately