i watch league content, solo queue alot, review my games, look at subreddits, and i have over 1million champion mastery and im still in gold
@videnz26646 сағат бұрын
8% winrate just can't be real just think about it that would mean u win 8 games out of a 100 like who in the right mind believes that? aren't there even people that showed how hard it is to even get to iron 4? even if they trolled and inted the game away it's super difficult and you want to tell me u have a 8% winrate in iron 4 even tho u actually try to win? but I want to say its ok to be iron 4
@johnnysomething15323 сағат бұрын
When you guys add taliyah there I will definitely give it a try!
@MrCooterHunterКүн бұрын
I actually think there is a lot of stuff high ELO players are out of touch with. I was trying to take ranked seriously. my account is lvl 283 and i've played a significant amount of league. At least a few years. I struggled to get out of iron and i'm pretty hard stuck bronze 4. My buddy said my MMR is fucky and said i should make a new account. My new account i trained it up to 30, played my privisonals, was placed in silver 4 and i'm about to hit gold. I do SIGNIFICANTLY better in these silver1-gold 4 lobbies than the iron 1-bronze 4 lobbies. My team feeds like crazy in the iron/bronze lobbies. on my bronze 4 account, i would have to play at a plat + level in order to carry how bad my team mates are on average.
@GatsuRageКүн бұрын
THIS... iron/bronze boils down to how good can u carry ur team or get carried by, is not about learning the game and playing ur role as u should is literally u better carry the S#!TOUT of this game and pray ur other team mates don't feed or int constantly which happens 7 out of 10 games in bottom tier elo. Sure there are legit new players who deserve to be in iron but there's also lots of vet players who do know how to play the game and often get called out to be "smurfing" just cos can't climb and hard stuck in low elo for one reason or another. I should also start a brand new acc and get better placement but why should I have to do that? I wanna play in my main and only account that I've been playing for years riot should fix this crap but they will never cos they rather have ppl creating more accounts.
@yungslack7311Күн бұрын
You know whats crazy I put over 200 hours in this game and im still bronze Pain
@BurritooMafia15 сағат бұрын
I feel you. I am prob sitting at 500 hrs still bronze since S7...
@r3rorer0902 күн бұрын
Are there still relevant takeaways from this guide for this season? I realize there are outdated aspects (items like Everfrost being gone) but I'm curious to know if Ahri's build path is as versatile as it was in S13 even now. Or is there only one -effective- way to build Ahri? (like an assassin)
@Kedislol2 күн бұрын
This is absolutely right. What ends up happening is a lot of people become addicted to the dopamine. They start playing with the goal of attaining it, and when they don't, it triggers rage. It isn't a healthy pattern at all and applies to many contexts
@Gofex13372 күн бұрын
I will disagree to a degree, it's easier to give lazy advice because the average player is too lazy to work on intricate advice.
@dirtydeeds4free5532 күн бұрын
I love playing pyke support. Its fuckin wave states. Adcs dont understand wavestates and its so frustrating. Stop hard pushing the wave when you pyke is 3 0 3 man, i cant tower dive them, force them to walk up man
@ShadowSerpent97973 күн бұрын
I've been playing trist mid and really enjoying it but I am iron, I don't understand why my rank means I shouldn't play it, I feel like you should play what you want to play, esp since it's not exactly like she is irelia or azir level difficulty
@momoaa2 күн бұрын
They pretty much explained it, the champion takes a basic nuanced understanding of the game. You need to know matchups, understand jungle movement, looking at minimap ect so that you can use your w effectively to pressure the lane, cuz the champ is not that good if you are just playing super passive and not snowballing or way too agro and dying a bunch. You can play whatever at the end of the day, if you are enjoying it thats fine, they just dont recommend it to climb/improve at the game when at iron you should be focusing on much more basic stuff than what you need to focus on while playing trist to excel.
@ShadowSerpent9797Күн бұрын
@@momoaaAgain, I totally understand when the champion is hard to pilot so when you have to learn the game AND pilot the champion it's too much for a beginner, but I've been playing for a year and don't find tristana hard to pilot or gain muscle memory with at all. Maybe I interpret Coach Curtis wrong but in his "how to climb with each rank" episode of his podcast he basically said "iron players shouldn't be in ranked" like ok I guess I have to play 1000s of normals games, I'm level 80 not 30 but feel like I learn way more in ranked than norms where no one is trying
@momoaaКүн бұрын
@@ShadowSerpent9797 im way higher elo than you and have base mechanics down pretty solid, but i still play a normal to warm up before ranked grind or normal for learning a new champion, i dont think theres all that much difference between normal and ranked game quality but maybe theres a bigger disparity in match quality at low elo. Not sure about the context behind 'iron players should just play norms', i dont think theres anything wrong with just playing ranked but if you are playing ranked your play should be very intentional, you should be improving and thinking about what you are doing ect. I was a trist main (adc) for a really long time but she is so gutted for adc role because of her midlane power that ive champ swapped, personally i can see your point about trist being overall pretty simple and not bad for beginners but her w being a free int button is just too much of a detriment for less aware players, which you would tend to find in low elo. If you are enjoying it though, dont let that stop you, i think trist is rediculously fun so i dont blame u for wanting to play her
@ShadowSerpent9797Күн бұрын
@@momoaa oh I also play a normals game before every ranked session to warm up, and I played her in normals for like 20-30 games before bringing her to ranked. I even played intermediate bot games with her before normals cause I never played an adc before. My norms games now though the match matching is fucked I'm either playing against level 5s and stomping them because they downloaded the game today or people who have been in gold and I get stomped lol. I just don't see her as a champion like an irelia or azir or even a yasuo or riven where it's like you need to be good at the game first. The W is an int button when limit testing for sure but I came from mages playing passive the whole game I needed something different
@dinkleberg65003 күн бұрын
Sooooo you went 50/50 in bronze using the method you tell people in bronze to climb with… which means you wouldnt climb if you were to keep playing. Kinda sounds like you proved t the Reddit post right
@kollinpoindexter88593 күн бұрын
I quit LoL a while back, so maybe they fixed this issue, but there is/was a fundamental difference to climbing in master, GM, and challenger then there is to climbing in iron through diamond. One has divisions and promos that will reset your LP, and the other doesn't. In master if you can keep a 52% win rate on your climb, you will increase your LP long term. If you can maintain 52% win rate over 1500 games with on average 16 lp gain/loss a game you will end up with around 960 more lp then you started with. The minimum LP to enter grand master is 200 and challenger is 500 to put this into perception. Below Masters, promotional and divisional games are/were things and dropping rank was/is east The problem with 52% win rate is it is extremely hard to reliably win the 3/4 games needed to advance a division or the 4/6 needed to promote. In addition when you failed to advance your lp would reset to a benchmark. You start a new division 0 lp. Lose 2 games and your back to your previous LP, but not at 100 LP, but at a predefined 60 lp. This means in order to advance a division you didn't just need a 52% win rate. You also needed a properly timed set of roughly 8 games where you only lost 2 times. If you lost more then that you would fall back to the previous/current division 60 lp. The chance of winning 6 out of 8 games at 52% win rate is: C(8,2).52^6.48^2 ~ 12.75%. So every division takes roughly 8 attempts to climb past (at 8 games each). This is in addition to getting to the point to climb. assuming 16 lp a game again. It takes 64 games to gain 30 lp and 110 games to get to the point in the process where you are oscillating between divisions (the other 70 lp).This means to gain a full 100 lp with a 52% win rate, it takes on average 175 games. If you played 1500 games like the master player you would go up roughly 8 divisions. If your goal was to go from bronze to gold you would probably need to play more then double the games a player would need to to go from masters to high challeneger, at the same win rate. The way to climb in below master is/was not with a 52% win rate. It is/was by getting better at winning games then everyone else your playing against/with. Not sure if LoL ever got better. I quit because this system was so punishing. After seeing the ahri drama I kind of want to come back just to ban ahri, but I am not sure my mental health could handle it.
@rafa-ariel.94873 күн бұрын
Give me 4 unskilled people who think like you, and I easlly going to gold
@pepajust40993 күн бұрын
Hit diamond thanks to this guide !
@viego294 күн бұрын
I need help, how do people actually do this, the lux just rush me straight up, she dont care about hitting minions
@CollectorVX4 күн бұрын
In iron you are not learning league, you are learning how to play a real time video game on a computer. Theres no shame in that. Ppl should manage their expectations and not get defensive over whatever they think is their "skill". Also casual gamers need to get told that League is not a game where time necessarily correlates to any progress. The gameplay loop is literally 30 mins - its closer to irl "pvp" sports than to campaign shooters, mmorpgs or round based strategy
@sonel_43754 күн бұрын
Very good content, thank you very much for your work guys!
@garrettbillington72304 күн бұрын
Very similar experiences for tristana on bot vs mid based off what I'm hearing except you have several things that make her harder to perform. You're in a 2v2 on bot, so your lane is dictated differently and "war of attrition" is not always necessarily a playable option. Your passive is a downside in unfavorable 2v2's because it forces you to forever push. You're against 2 champs, not 1, so your goal is to set up for support plays and hope they perform well and be ready for kill opportunities especially at lvls 2-3 and 6 when they decide they can move. If you don't get a kill by lvl 2-3 on tristana on bot, your game is going to be incredibly more difficult and you're hoping to play on a random jungle or dragon skirmish with wave prio in order to create some kind of lead, or for a bot lane dive by the jungler or a roaming mid for an advantage. You can't take demolish as a bot laner, so tower plate destroying is only a "sometimes" option as well, and then as you enter the mid game you might want to split in the same style in some moments, but now you have to do so while down 2 levels compared to everyone else, so you get less opportunities than you would had you just played her mid, plus again, you don't have demolish so its not as good as just dueling it out in a fight. It's much more emphasized on playing fights well for bot lane than macro plays. Basically tristana mid is easy mode while tristana bot is hard mode. She seems like such a better mid laner to me.
@BigKadeemFan4 күн бұрын
Bro has the dumbest takes out of nowhere all the time. You’re playing league of legends, the game where literally everyone uses multiple accounts for multiple purposes and literally no one that has played the game for a long time runs ranked on the original account they created, but it’s suspect that they play on more than one account? 💀
@specialoneekko36704 күн бұрын
w vod
@codynewsom78685 күн бұрын
if Tyler1's strategy can get him to challenger in all 5 roles then its a good strategy idc what region its in, its obviously working.
@akbarihamid21815 күн бұрын
i dont play league anymore but i like your cognition
@L0sdef5 күн бұрын
This video should have been called coulda woulda shoulda--
@Elwind_of_Arathor5 күн бұрын
Woof... I feel like my luck lately has been so bad that I've just been getting so many Auto loses every time I jump into a block. And it's nothing but ranged tops and blind picking into top lane counters... So I'm too demoralizing and tilted to capitalize on any of the games where I might have agency to be the carry because I've been slowly losing more of my focus and intensity every game day after day... I'm thinking I should just go play normals and start learning a new role or a new champion so the game can be fun again.
@omgwat5 күн бұрын
Bro what is this gameplay... How do you expect to improve with this gameplay? Just focus on the fundamentals. Focus on farm, stop trying to get kills. You're a Malzahar. You push towers.
@haroldpham66935 күн бұрын
I'm gonna need you to delete this video and release a S14 Lucian mid video instead, Mr. Curtis we do not need more filthy Tristana mid players on the rift 😢
@dotaportalvideo5 күн бұрын
gr8 stuff
@MrAstarcius-Chan5 күн бұрын
bro have perfect farming perfect recalling perfect team fighting do you really thing all bronze people know all this staff? i mean sure they can improve their farming but map awareness and design making isnt something you get easily or everyone have it. dont take me wrong you prove a point you must learn how to be chill and dont do unnecessary calls to rank up but nah this play style for p.ssys we plat players hard stuck bronze bc we are not p.ssys
@Vortex_Tornado6 күн бұрын
That tip for practicing CS under tower by placing an enemy dummy in your base in practice tool is super helpful
@wuuren77556 күн бұрын
@CoachCurtis , I think you should really do a Yone video , since Chovy, Caps, Jackies, Faker,... seem to have play this champ since his release. I really think you're sleeping on him otherwise LOVE YOUR CONTENT!
@tiziosempronio86435 күн бұрын
He's done it already
@wuuren77552 күн бұрын
@@tiziosempronio8643 Then I am corrected , appreciate the correction.
@AninhasMonteiro6 күн бұрын
watching this as an adc :p
@Dronacharya-ki6mx6 күн бұрын
My guess is that he's not going to be interested in doing this work because he's just "casually playing," not realizing that means that he's an iron 4 ladder player.
@jimadler24306 күн бұрын
the umm at 20:23 with it being on the screen 1 second later is crazy. curtis iron 4 confirmed?
@gamerkev306 күн бұрын
Just stop playing this game, I have never hit gold playing League over years; literally any other game with ranked ladders I hit gold/platinum equivalents easily; League is rigged.
@EarthAdder6 күн бұрын
There is no reality where this is legit. The guy is trolling.
@papiertje22616 күн бұрын
btw he's not using smartcast, that'll make your life easier.
@papiertje22616 күн бұрын
Players have gotten better in general too man. I've been platinum one season, back then I even met Ocelote in one of my ranked games, most other seasons I ended up in gold. This season I even touched Iron 1. What I realized is even in Iron 1 people aren't so bad, they know how to play their character and they cs really well. Could be I've gotten older, I'm 39 now, and lost my quick reflexes. So yea, I can really understand how people end up in Iron 4.
@Gloriankithsanus6 күн бұрын
You don't need reflexes. As he says in the video, league is a game of anticipation - most of the time you know what's going to happen - the moment you get surprised, is the moment your personal game knowledge was lacking. People who are iron just really don't play enough with intention. Or not frequent enough to begin with. Which is totally fine.
@reosin25363 күн бұрын
@@Gloriankithsanusyou dont get it. At laning i can concentrate barely on cs and enemy movement simultaneously. Adding smth more like minimap/mana/level progress overflows the brain. More older i get less stuff my brain can process.
@CoffeeKitty.7 күн бұрын
my frustration with this is it is almost a 1:1 ratio and a 100% replicatble thing on NA at least, if you dont compensate for others mistakes in this way, where you follow them into a bad decision, they will literally throw the entire game away in spite. this isn't confirmation bias, this is straight up a fact that ive had to deal with, so i have to find a line between helping and not fucking myself. even my last game had a galio vs me as velkoz constantly roaming bot and camping in bushes i literally could not contest vision for, i ping the bot i tell them exactly what happens, he ults them they die they flame me. then 2x ult i do the same thing i ping he's on the way, get plating like a sane actor, get flamed, so third time, i decide i have 4 plating, his roams have been horrible tempo and are netting him double kills because they are illiterate, so i try to roam to meet him and sure as shit he's waiting in pixel bush and flashes over bot wall and i die, you're put in no win situations by idiots, they dont understand the game and they demand you to do suboptimal things and if you do the optimal things they literally will throw the game in spite, so you HAVE to do suboptimal things to appease them. its part of the game, its another skill you have to master, manipuatling solo q teamates and holding their weak mental together is absoutely part of climbing. it's a balance act, the learning can happen in degrees, how much can you sacrifice vs how much do you just have to bite the bullet and piss them off, there's give and take here, it's not unilateral like you imply
@optamis19897 күн бұрын
I'm just into the video and I know the feeling. Years ago in season 6 I went on a 86 game lose streak. I literally could not win a game. I just got in a super negative feedback loop. Fortunately I broke out of it. But yea, losing a ton sucks.
@BusJACKTV7 күн бұрын
Thank you for this MASSIVE lecture. As an 850k mastery Bronze I / Silver IV Tristana OTP I’m trying to get out of bot lane and this couldn’t have come up at a better time.
@rxpe4 күн бұрын
brother
@momoaa3 күн бұрын
@@rxpe surely the laneswap brings him out of low silver huh
@ronals27 күн бұрын
very thorough thanks for the insight on Tristana.
@inksword60297 күн бұрын
i just got plat should i consider the plat+ coaching or nah
@pinbol57017 күн бұрын
the fucking bot just goes MID lane.. and i don't know how to fix it.
@sohn77674 күн бұрын
Drill Doesn’t work anymore, AI got changed
@csashta7 күн бұрын
I have been playing for almost a year, as an ADC first, during a few months, and then as a support. I tried multiple champs, again and again, and I felt just so bad. At some point, I found out that Zyra was very good to climb (I wasn't playing ranked but my duo was, and I thought that we might play together at some point). I found guides made by an OTP, they really helped me understand the champ. However, I was and still am bad at dealing damage (poke is still very easy with Zyra) and the champ felt somewhat wrong. I started to try again various champs, but my duo had decided to play ADC with me (main jungle) and he told me that I had to pick a pool with basically 1 engage, 1 enchanter and 1 mage, which I did. At that point, I felt useless on the game, whatever I was doing. My ADC was also commenting a lot on my every moves, and... I really lack confidence and self esteem, IG and IRL, so it was not helping. We talked and he diminished his comments. And I don't know why, I decided I wanted to try Milio. I had kind of an affinity with enchanters, but had never found any that "felt good", like I was actually useful. Milio is really expensive, I felt like it was a bet and a last resort situation. Turns out, I really liked him. I was bad, but it felt good. So I started to pick him exclusively, which is good since it's rare to see him. I started to become better, actually better. I saw posts on reddit saying the champ is bad, felt bad, questioned my choices, but it felt good to I kept playing him. Then, I started convincing lots of players that my boy is gold, and it felt amazing. Anyway, Milio is my special champ. I love hearing him say "You can do it, Milio!", it actually motivated me in game. I like running everywhere, even if I am too often missposed. I like helping everyone, sometimes more than they imagine. I love when enemies chase me around the whole map and never catch me because my shield gives me MS and my ball bump them. I started to get more assists (that I deserve) and die less. However, I had developed habits linked to the character and my playstyle. And as I looked at all the bad habits, I realized I needed to diversify my picks to keep getting better. I also wanted to feel more proactive, but my own habits prevented me from doing it with him. I kind of started to resent him for that (I know, weird). So, I started to go back on trying champs, very recently. I like enchanters, so I gave a second chance to a lot of champs. Milio has helped me to gain some confidence, and I can now better play other champs, even though I still have my flaws (a lot of flaws). It feels so good to try other champs. I have started with champs that remind me of Milio for various reasons. I have tried to play champs with skillshots as I'd like to play hookers one day, and found out that Milio's q has helped me in that way. I still haven't found exactly what I want to play, but Milio is my feel good choice (though I try to take him when his kit is going to shine more). I am currently not ready to play engage. I have tried more mage-y poky champs because I want to work on that, but engage... I have a big mental block: I am going to go everything wrong, have everybody get killed, etc. etc. I know you have to try to learn, but it is actually stressful to me, more than the game currently is for me. So, I just can't, and that's ok, as long as I am having fun! Nobody is going to read that, but it actually felt good to write it ☺️
@brooksgunn52357 күн бұрын
4 hours for my highest mastery champ? Yipee!!
@Azzzoth7 күн бұрын
I hope all of you trist mid players lose your games! Gl lol!
@ichdu63627 күн бұрын
On the topic of streaking: What got left out here is the high likelyhood of just random streaks of the same result. Even a perfectly random coin will most likely have a 6 to 7 turn tails streak as its longest streak when thrown 100 times. Randomly getting 5 bad games in a row is much more likely than people seem to assume.
@aronbuch42757 күн бұрын
who the fuck is tristaner
@slimshaneyy7 күн бұрын
Oh no swain is cooked chat
@jimmyhendrix71118 күн бұрын
The mistake this video is making is assuming that you are, at some point, not going to lose all your towers 15 minutes into the game with the entire game hinging on something as one-offish as you losing a fight because you're the only human and you didn't aggressively flash
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i watch league content, solo queue alot, review my games, look at subreddits, and i have over 1million champion mastery and im still in gold
8% winrate just can't be real just think about it that would mean u win 8 games out of a 100 like who in the right mind believes that? aren't there even people that showed how hard it is to even get to iron 4? even if they trolled and inted the game away it's super difficult and you want to tell me u have a 8% winrate in iron 4 even tho u actually try to win? but I want to say its ok to be iron 4
When you guys add taliyah there I will definitely give it a try!
I actually think there is a lot of stuff high ELO players are out of touch with. I was trying to take ranked seriously. my account is lvl 283 and i've played a significant amount of league. At least a few years. I struggled to get out of iron and i'm pretty hard stuck bronze 4. My buddy said my MMR is fucky and said i should make a new account. My new account i trained it up to 30, played my privisonals, was placed in silver 4 and i'm about to hit gold. I do SIGNIFICANTLY better in these silver1-gold 4 lobbies than the iron 1-bronze 4 lobbies. My team feeds like crazy in the iron/bronze lobbies. on my bronze 4 account, i would have to play at a plat + level in order to carry how bad my team mates are on average.
THIS... iron/bronze boils down to how good can u carry ur team or get carried by, is not about learning the game and playing ur role as u should is literally u better carry the S#!TOUT of this game and pray ur other team mates don't feed or int constantly which happens 7 out of 10 games in bottom tier elo. Sure there are legit new players who deserve to be in iron but there's also lots of vet players who do know how to play the game and often get called out to be "smurfing" just cos can't climb and hard stuck in low elo for one reason or another. I should also start a brand new acc and get better placement but why should I have to do that? I wanna play in my main and only account that I've been playing for years riot should fix this crap but they will never cos they rather have ppl creating more accounts.
You know whats crazy I put over 200 hours in this game and im still bronze Pain
I feel you. I am prob sitting at 500 hrs still bronze since S7...
Are there still relevant takeaways from this guide for this season? I realize there are outdated aspects (items like Everfrost being gone) but I'm curious to know if Ahri's build path is as versatile as it was in S13 even now. Or is there only one -effective- way to build Ahri? (like an assassin)
This is absolutely right. What ends up happening is a lot of people become addicted to the dopamine. They start playing with the goal of attaining it, and when they don't, it triggers rage. It isn't a healthy pattern at all and applies to many contexts
I will disagree to a degree, it's easier to give lazy advice because the average player is too lazy to work on intricate advice.
I love playing pyke support. Its fuckin wave states. Adcs dont understand wavestates and its so frustrating. Stop hard pushing the wave when you pyke is 3 0 3 man, i cant tower dive them, force them to walk up man
I've been playing trist mid and really enjoying it but I am iron, I don't understand why my rank means I shouldn't play it, I feel like you should play what you want to play, esp since it's not exactly like she is irelia or azir level difficulty
They pretty much explained it, the champion takes a basic nuanced understanding of the game. You need to know matchups, understand jungle movement, looking at minimap ect so that you can use your w effectively to pressure the lane, cuz the champ is not that good if you are just playing super passive and not snowballing or way too agro and dying a bunch. You can play whatever at the end of the day, if you are enjoying it thats fine, they just dont recommend it to climb/improve at the game when at iron you should be focusing on much more basic stuff than what you need to focus on while playing trist to excel.
@@momoaaAgain, I totally understand when the champion is hard to pilot so when you have to learn the game AND pilot the champion it's too much for a beginner, but I've been playing for a year and don't find tristana hard to pilot or gain muscle memory with at all. Maybe I interpret Coach Curtis wrong but in his "how to climb with each rank" episode of his podcast he basically said "iron players shouldn't be in ranked" like ok I guess I have to play 1000s of normals games, I'm level 80 not 30 but feel like I learn way more in ranked than norms where no one is trying
@@ShadowSerpent9797 im way higher elo than you and have base mechanics down pretty solid, but i still play a normal to warm up before ranked grind or normal for learning a new champion, i dont think theres all that much difference between normal and ranked game quality but maybe theres a bigger disparity in match quality at low elo. Not sure about the context behind 'iron players should just play norms', i dont think theres anything wrong with just playing ranked but if you are playing ranked your play should be very intentional, you should be improving and thinking about what you are doing ect. I was a trist main (adc) for a really long time but she is so gutted for adc role because of her midlane power that ive champ swapped, personally i can see your point about trist being overall pretty simple and not bad for beginners but her w being a free int button is just too much of a detriment for less aware players, which you would tend to find in low elo. If you are enjoying it though, dont let that stop you, i think trist is rediculously fun so i dont blame u for wanting to play her
@@momoaa oh I also play a normals game before every ranked session to warm up, and I played her in normals for like 20-30 games before bringing her to ranked. I even played intermediate bot games with her before normals cause I never played an adc before. My norms games now though the match matching is fucked I'm either playing against level 5s and stomping them because they downloaded the game today or people who have been in gold and I get stomped lol. I just don't see her as a champion like an irelia or azir or even a yasuo or riven where it's like you need to be good at the game first. The W is an int button when limit testing for sure but I came from mages playing passive the whole game I needed something different
Sooooo you went 50/50 in bronze using the method you tell people in bronze to climb with… which means you wouldnt climb if you were to keep playing. Kinda sounds like you proved t the Reddit post right
I quit LoL a while back, so maybe they fixed this issue, but there is/was a fundamental difference to climbing in master, GM, and challenger then there is to climbing in iron through diamond. One has divisions and promos that will reset your LP, and the other doesn't. In master if you can keep a 52% win rate on your climb, you will increase your LP long term. If you can maintain 52% win rate over 1500 games with on average 16 lp gain/loss a game you will end up with around 960 more lp then you started with. The minimum LP to enter grand master is 200 and challenger is 500 to put this into perception. Below Masters, promotional and divisional games are/were things and dropping rank was/is east The problem with 52% win rate is it is extremely hard to reliably win the 3/4 games needed to advance a division or the 4/6 needed to promote. In addition when you failed to advance your lp would reset to a benchmark. You start a new division 0 lp. Lose 2 games and your back to your previous LP, but not at 100 LP, but at a predefined 60 lp. This means in order to advance a division you didn't just need a 52% win rate. You also needed a properly timed set of roughly 8 games where you only lost 2 times. If you lost more then that you would fall back to the previous/current division 60 lp. The chance of winning 6 out of 8 games at 52% win rate is: C(8,2).52^6.48^2 ~ 12.75%. So every division takes roughly 8 attempts to climb past (at 8 games each). This is in addition to getting to the point to climb. assuming 16 lp a game again. It takes 64 games to gain 30 lp and 110 games to get to the point in the process where you are oscillating between divisions (the other 70 lp).This means to gain a full 100 lp with a 52% win rate, it takes on average 175 games. If you played 1500 games like the master player you would go up roughly 8 divisions. If your goal was to go from bronze to gold you would probably need to play more then double the games a player would need to to go from masters to high challeneger, at the same win rate. The way to climb in below master is/was not with a 52% win rate. It is/was by getting better at winning games then everyone else your playing against/with. Not sure if LoL ever got better. I quit because this system was so punishing. After seeing the ahri drama I kind of want to come back just to ban ahri, but I am not sure my mental health could handle it.
Give me 4 unskilled people who think like you, and I easlly going to gold
Hit diamond thanks to this guide !
I need help, how do people actually do this, the lux just rush me straight up, she dont care about hitting minions
In iron you are not learning league, you are learning how to play a real time video game on a computer. Theres no shame in that. Ppl should manage their expectations and not get defensive over whatever they think is their "skill". Also casual gamers need to get told that League is not a game where time necessarily correlates to any progress. The gameplay loop is literally 30 mins - its closer to irl "pvp" sports than to campaign shooters, mmorpgs or round based strategy
Very good content, thank you very much for your work guys!
Very similar experiences for tristana on bot vs mid based off what I'm hearing except you have several things that make her harder to perform. You're in a 2v2 on bot, so your lane is dictated differently and "war of attrition" is not always necessarily a playable option. Your passive is a downside in unfavorable 2v2's because it forces you to forever push. You're against 2 champs, not 1, so your goal is to set up for support plays and hope they perform well and be ready for kill opportunities especially at lvls 2-3 and 6 when they decide they can move. If you don't get a kill by lvl 2-3 on tristana on bot, your game is going to be incredibly more difficult and you're hoping to play on a random jungle or dragon skirmish with wave prio in order to create some kind of lead, or for a bot lane dive by the jungler or a roaming mid for an advantage. You can't take demolish as a bot laner, so tower plate destroying is only a "sometimes" option as well, and then as you enter the mid game you might want to split in the same style in some moments, but now you have to do so while down 2 levels compared to everyone else, so you get less opportunities than you would had you just played her mid, plus again, you don't have demolish so its not as good as just dueling it out in a fight. It's much more emphasized on playing fights well for bot lane than macro plays. Basically tristana mid is easy mode while tristana bot is hard mode. She seems like such a better mid laner to me.
Bro has the dumbest takes out of nowhere all the time. You’re playing league of legends, the game where literally everyone uses multiple accounts for multiple purposes and literally no one that has played the game for a long time runs ranked on the original account they created, but it’s suspect that they play on more than one account? 💀
w vod
if Tyler1's strategy can get him to challenger in all 5 roles then its a good strategy idc what region its in, its obviously working.
i dont play league anymore but i like your cognition
This video should have been called coulda woulda shoulda--
Woof... I feel like my luck lately has been so bad that I've just been getting so many Auto loses every time I jump into a block. And it's nothing but ranged tops and blind picking into top lane counters... So I'm too demoralizing and tilted to capitalize on any of the games where I might have agency to be the carry because I've been slowly losing more of my focus and intensity every game day after day... I'm thinking I should just go play normals and start learning a new role or a new champion so the game can be fun again.
Bro what is this gameplay... How do you expect to improve with this gameplay? Just focus on the fundamentals. Focus on farm, stop trying to get kills. You're a Malzahar. You push towers.
I'm gonna need you to delete this video and release a S14 Lucian mid video instead, Mr. Curtis we do not need more filthy Tristana mid players on the rift 😢
gr8 stuff
bro have perfect farming perfect recalling perfect team fighting do you really thing all bronze people know all this staff? i mean sure they can improve their farming but map awareness and design making isnt something you get easily or everyone have it. dont take me wrong you prove a point you must learn how to be chill and dont do unnecessary calls to rank up but nah this play style for p.ssys we plat players hard stuck bronze bc we are not p.ssys
That tip for practicing CS under tower by placing an enemy dummy in your base in practice tool is super helpful
@CoachCurtis , I think you should really do a Yone video , since Chovy, Caps, Jackies, Faker,... seem to have play this champ since his release. I really think you're sleeping on him otherwise LOVE YOUR CONTENT!
He's done it already
@@tiziosempronio8643 Then I am corrected , appreciate the correction.
watching this as an adc :p
My guess is that he's not going to be interested in doing this work because he's just "casually playing," not realizing that means that he's an iron 4 ladder player.
the umm at 20:23 with it being on the screen 1 second later is crazy. curtis iron 4 confirmed?
Just stop playing this game, I have never hit gold playing League over years; literally any other game with ranked ladders I hit gold/platinum equivalents easily; League is rigged.
There is no reality where this is legit. The guy is trolling.
btw he's not using smartcast, that'll make your life easier.
Players have gotten better in general too man. I've been platinum one season, back then I even met Ocelote in one of my ranked games, most other seasons I ended up in gold. This season I even touched Iron 1. What I realized is even in Iron 1 people aren't so bad, they know how to play their character and they cs really well. Could be I've gotten older, I'm 39 now, and lost my quick reflexes. So yea, I can really understand how people end up in Iron 4.
You don't need reflexes. As he says in the video, league is a game of anticipation - most of the time you know what's going to happen - the moment you get surprised, is the moment your personal game knowledge was lacking. People who are iron just really don't play enough with intention. Or not frequent enough to begin with. Which is totally fine.
@@Gloriankithsanusyou dont get it. At laning i can concentrate barely on cs and enemy movement simultaneously. Adding smth more like minimap/mana/level progress overflows the brain. More older i get less stuff my brain can process.
my frustration with this is it is almost a 1:1 ratio and a 100% replicatble thing on NA at least, if you dont compensate for others mistakes in this way, where you follow them into a bad decision, they will literally throw the entire game away in spite. this isn't confirmation bias, this is straight up a fact that ive had to deal with, so i have to find a line between helping and not fucking myself. even my last game had a galio vs me as velkoz constantly roaming bot and camping in bushes i literally could not contest vision for, i ping the bot i tell them exactly what happens, he ults them they die they flame me. then 2x ult i do the same thing i ping he's on the way, get plating like a sane actor, get flamed, so third time, i decide i have 4 plating, his roams have been horrible tempo and are netting him double kills because they are illiterate, so i try to roam to meet him and sure as shit he's waiting in pixel bush and flashes over bot wall and i die, you're put in no win situations by idiots, they dont understand the game and they demand you to do suboptimal things and if you do the optimal things they literally will throw the game in spite, so you HAVE to do suboptimal things to appease them. its part of the game, its another skill you have to master, manipuatling solo q teamates and holding their weak mental together is absoutely part of climbing. it's a balance act, the learning can happen in degrees, how much can you sacrifice vs how much do you just have to bite the bullet and piss them off, there's give and take here, it's not unilateral like you imply
I'm just into the video and I know the feeling. Years ago in season 6 I went on a 86 game lose streak. I literally could not win a game. I just got in a super negative feedback loop. Fortunately I broke out of it. But yea, losing a ton sucks.
Thank you for this MASSIVE lecture. As an 850k mastery Bronze I / Silver IV Tristana OTP I’m trying to get out of bot lane and this couldn’t have come up at a better time.
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@@rxpe surely the laneswap brings him out of low silver huh
very thorough thanks for the insight on Tristana.
i just got plat should i consider the plat+ coaching or nah
the fucking bot just goes MID lane.. and i don't know how to fix it.
Drill Doesn’t work anymore, AI got changed
I have been playing for almost a year, as an ADC first, during a few months, and then as a support. I tried multiple champs, again and again, and I felt just so bad. At some point, I found out that Zyra was very good to climb (I wasn't playing ranked but my duo was, and I thought that we might play together at some point). I found guides made by an OTP, they really helped me understand the champ. However, I was and still am bad at dealing damage (poke is still very easy with Zyra) and the champ felt somewhat wrong. I started to try again various champs, but my duo had decided to play ADC with me (main jungle) and he told me that I had to pick a pool with basically 1 engage, 1 enchanter and 1 mage, which I did. At that point, I felt useless on the game, whatever I was doing. My ADC was also commenting a lot on my every moves, and... I really lack confidence and self esteem, IG and IRL, so it was not helping. We talked and he diminished his comments. And I don't know why, I decided I wanted to try Milio. I had kind of an affinity with enchanters, but had never found any that "felt good", like I was actually useful. Milio is really expensive, I felt like it was a bet and a last resort situation. Turns out, I really liked him. I was bad, but it felt good. So I started to pick him exclusively, which is good since it's rare to see him. I started to become better, actually better. I saw posts on reddit saying the champ is bad, felt bad, questioned my choices, but it felt good to I kept playing him. Then, I started convincing lots of players that my boy is gold, and it felt amazing. Anyway, Milio is my special champ. I love hearing him say "You can do it, Milio!", it actually motivated me in game. I like running everywhere, even if I am too often missposed. I like helping everyone, sometimes more than they imagine. I love when enemies chase me around the whole map and never catch me because my shield gives me MS and my ball bump them. I started to get more assists (that I deserve) and die less. However, I had developed habits linked to the character and my playstyle. And as I looked at all the bad habits, I realized I needed to diversify my picks to keep getting better. I also wanted to feel more proactive, but my own habits prevented me from doing it with him. I kind of started to resent him for that (I know, weird). So, I started to go back on trying champs, very recently. I like enchanters, so I gave a second chance to a lot of champs. Milio has helped me to gain some confidence, and I can now better play other champs, even though I still have my flaws (a lot of flaws). It feels so good to try other champs. I have started with champs that remind me of Milio for various reasons. I have tried to play champs with skillshots as I'd like to play hookers one day, and found out that Milio's q has helped me in that way. I still haven't found exactly what I want to play, but Milio is my feel good choice (though I try to take him when his kit is going to shine more). I am currently not ready to play engage. I have tried more mage-y poky champs because I want to work on that, but engage... I have a big mental block: I am going to go everything wrong, have everybody get killed, etc. etc. I know you have to try to learn, but it is actually stressful to me, more than the game currently is for me. So, I just can't, and that's ok, as long as I am having fun! Nobody is going to read that, but it actually felt good to write it ☺️
4 hours for my highest mastery champ? Yipee!!
I hope all of you trist mid players lose your games! Gl lol!
On the topic of streaking: What got left out here is the high likelyhood of just random streaks of the same result. Even a perfectly random coin will most likely have a 6 to 7 turn tails streak as its longest streak when thrown 100 times. Randomly getting 5 bad games in a row is much more likely than people seem to assume.
who the fuck is tristaner
Oh no swain is cooked chat
The mistake this video is making is assuming that you are, at some point, not going to lose all your towers 15 minutes into the game with the entire game hinging on something as one-offish as you losing a fight because you're the only human and you didn't aggressively flash