I saw someone mentioning this reddit post yesterday and I thought "This would make a good Coach Curtis video". And of course, the next day coach delivers, as always

@GubbiGap

12 күн бұрын

Hope they link the video to them or that this video in some way reaches them

One thing about warding and map awareness, I used to ward constantly, but I was never looking at the map so it didn't help much. I've found now that I look at the map much more often, I'll notice when we have no vision and WANT to ward because I can't see anything. I feel like telling people to ward doesn't help the underlying issue which is map awareness. If you build map awareness, you'll want to ward though

@geli95us

12 күн бұрын

And the underlying issue of lack of map awareness is bad threat assessment, if you feel threatened you'll want to look at the map, if you look at the map you'll realize that you don't have vision and thus feel unsafe, which will make you want to ward to increase safety

@soul0172

12 күн бұрын

wards help others too

@unremorse

11 күн бұрын

if your team doesn't lay vision, take the enemy champions that you can see on the map, and then make a guess based on what objectives are up, wavestates and probability of champions that you can/can't challenge in each lane

Is no one gonna talk about how a rabbit ate tristana's keyboard cable....

@tylertenreiro4045

12 күн бұрын

18:02

@mindlessducc

12 күн бұрын

damn

@JacobTheSunPreacher

12 күн бұрын

The same happened to me, but instead of the kb cable it was my notebook charger cable.

@ailst

12 күн бұрын

I can relate hard. I also have 2 rabbits. The one I most recently adopted found ways to circumvent my cable-security. By pushing away boxes and squeezing through narrow passages. While my keyboard-cable is safe, he killed the Internet connection twice. I now have barred the access to the cable and it's running over my door instead of along the floor. And yes, one of the times it happened while I was playing lol.

@L9nexah

11 күн бұрын

@@ailst LMAO literally the same happened to me, I also have 2 rabbits and they ate the internet cable multiple times

"Confirmation bias" was the term you were looking for

@Gloriankithsanus

8 күн бұрын

In fact, I think he meant selective perception. Confirmation bias is the broad overall term for a lot of smaller things that play into it. "I am bronze" is not really a preconception which you could have a confirmation bias for. It's the result of selective perception from playing and ignoring your bad plays.

@tails5388

8 күн бұрын

no. Confirmation bias is starting with a conclusion and only looking evidence that promotes that conclusion instead of looking at all the evidence available and making a reasonable decision. He was likely talking about "Positive associate" bias. Where we tend to remember or focus on positive traits and experiences over negative ones. Like ignoring red flags in an abusive relationship because they are nice *sometimes* for example.

getting flashbanged by white mode reddit

@HamsterPants522

10 күн бұрын

Physical damage from the white light, and psychic damage from it being reddit. GG

@brunomacias460

8 күн бұрын

are you the guy that comments on runeterra twitter with this same profile

Just came back to play League after years and I noticed that even "silver" players nowadays seem to know some concepts that used to be "intermediate" 3-4y ago. In terms of mechanics, it seems the gap really increases after Esmeralda though...

@argyrisrodis3660

12 күн бұрын

Yea I thinks after the gipsy girl and Quasimodo the level of mechanical plays has increased a lot

@thirtyseven8284

12 күн бұрын

@@argyrisrodis3660😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@eight8muzik

12 күн бұрын

Esmeralda

@eight8muzik

12 күн бұрын

​@@argyrisrodis3660😂😂😂😂

@goticogordo

11 күн бұрын

It’s weird because players are much worse now, but it’s because we have more players and more elos, I do believe the avarage player know more given the information around, but league was much harder to climb before, I peaked challenger on season 9 but was master (grand master when it released) since season 5till season 10, and I stoped playing on 2020 and came back at the end of last year, like, I feel that climbing now is just so easy, no promos, a lot of elos, like, master tier players before are pretty much what challenger is, I was passing by masters and it was like playing with and vs play players back then, it’s like people know the basics but the rest they are just brain dead at

you're a better person than me, to take the story seriously after they reveal they are playing on a second account

@dickwallace8567

12 күн бұрын

What does that matter? Lots of people have multiple accounts. I have two myself.

@setajucizbun7073

12 күн бұрын

it was clear "I can tell youre an iron 4 because the way you move" is a bunch of spoon fed bs for the audience. He doesn't see sht xD

@JoshDoes

11 күн бұрын

@@setajucizbun7073 You can tell actually.

@setajucizbun7073

11 күн бұрын

@@JoshDoes that he is iron or not iron?

@haiimcookie

10 күн бұрын

idk if after playing 100 games I'd still be iron 4. I probably wouldn't but I made that post just because I was upset at the way things were going w me and I want to improve.

Hearing Coach Curtis say "weed edible" is the highlight of this video for me

@scarl2t

12 күн бұрын

lmao

@anii3611

12 күн бұрын

Yeah it felt maybe a little too specific...😅

@youvegoattobekittenme6908

11 күн бұрын

I thought it was funny as well

"Confirmation bias" - favoring the information that supports what you already believe.

It's refreshing how helpful this video is to a new/iron player with specific and practical things this player can work on. It's not always easy to review your games and see where you went wrong, for example where he thought there was nothing he could do about the Brand gank, when most of it was not seeing him show up on the map and not reacting to it properly. This game can be overwhelming, very toxic and demoralising when people flame you for not playing perfectly. Thank you for not shaming him for being iron and giving decent advice for him to make improvements to his gameplay 😊

Great stuff, Curtis. Your philosophy on the game and podcast with Nathan has given me a new vigor for league of legends. I have played league casually off and on since season 3. I got emerald last year in flex with friends and really want to try my hand at solo/duo. The last time I played solo/duo was season 5 probably.

i think oop would even benefit from never playing ranked again if they're not looking to main league of legends. this is a game you have to constantly stay on top of. that's why i quit playing ranked: i didn't want to constantly focus on getting better. I just wanted to have fun and play once in a while.

@Gloriankithsanus

8 күн бұрын

These people then feel like playing is pointless. At least from my personal experience.

@louc.6735

8 күн бұрын

@@Gloriankithsanus it kinda is. Unless you get high enough to make money off this game, there's really zero reason to play it. You could be building real skills instead, or going outside, or learning new things. If you're below challenger or don't have a successful youtube channel, there is no point to the game. Play to have fun. If you're not enjoying it, stop.

I main jungle, but have had my laning phase both mid and top periodically. For me it was such a red flag when annie goes for Kennen Kennen Kennen when they have 1100 gold and NEED to base asap. If their focus was 90% on the wave and just dumped W R on it at multiple points and pressed B they would have a 500% bigger chance to win that game. And he can fix these things, he is not hopeless at all, as long as he gets that chip off his shoulder about ranks and stuff. I remember your video which I hate to bring up, when you played in bronze to demonstrate the points we could say this Annie needs to work on. As you said yourself later, it doesn't mean anything when a competent player goes smurfing and does it, BUT this kind of demonstration really hits it home big time. Since it's a genuine iron player, again, no insult to Alex, it shows the things needing fixing, and you commenting it as a coach in the background does the job beautifully. I think we can use more of this kind of content when you feel like it, since open minded and curious people across the ladder might need just this message and a relatable case study to watch with your explanation in the background. Much ❤ for this, Big Curtis W video.

@skylerashe

12 күн бұрын

There was a skillcapped video that probably added the most consistency to my gameplay over anything else and that video was the how to recall like a challenger or something like that. Getting a good reset is such a major fundamental part of the game I have to remember about when I leave my aram cave and do some ranked. Learning how to get good recalls without tp also made me appreciate having tp so much more. I've been playing jhin and brand adc this season and I always take tp on brand so any unfortunate bot fiesta isn't and instant game loser. But yeah making sure to crash a big wave for a cheater recall and then not letting your opponents get a good recall is winning lane 101 for me these days. Different matchups make things different every game of course but crashing that wave to make sure they lose minions and you don't is majorly important. Toplane will teach you quickly what a good death is when you get dove for a 1v1 but the wave you lose is so big that you never recover. Your opponent in that case took a great death in order to set you behind.

8% in iron has to be like hospital diff

@williammeincke9071

12 күн бұрын

Its a joke a team got like 14% 4v5 and it should be higher in lower elo

Thanks for another great video, Coach! Hope to be able to join MLA one day if I can!

I actually think there is a lot of stuff high ELO players are out of touch with. I was trying to take ranked seriously. my account is lvl 283 and i've played a significant amount of league. At least a few years. I struggled to get out of iron and i'm pretty hard stuck bronze 4. My buddy said my MMR is fucky and said i should make a new account. My new account i trained it up to 30, played my privisonals, was placed in silver 4 and i'm about to hit gold. I do SIGNIFICANTLY better in these silver1-gold 4 lobbies than the iron 1-bronze 4 lobbies. My team feeds like crazy in the iron/bronze lobbies. on my bronze 4 account, i would have to play at a plat + level in order to carry how bad my team mates are on average.

@GatsuRage

3 күн бұрын

THIS... iron/bronze boils down to how good can u carry ur team or get carried by, is not about learning the game and playing ur role as u should is literally u better carry the S#!TOUT of this game and pray ur other team mates don't feed or int constantly which happens 7 out of 10 games in bottom tier elo. Sure there are legit new players who deserve to be in iron but there's also lots of vet players who do know how to play the game and often get called out to be "smurfing" just cos can't climb and hard stuck in low elo for one reason or another. I should also start a brand new acc and get better placement but why should I have to do that? I wanna play in my main and only account that I've been playing for years riot should fix this crap but they will never cos they rather have ppl creating more accounts.

"burden of knowledge" brooo i had this with a lot of real life related stuff when watching too much content without applying it. this can really mess you up mentally and physically, i try not to watch too much stuff about things that are really important to me

Does Coach Curtis not know about dark mode?

@KingprosBr

12 күн бұрын

i'm not sure if he have an account

@eight8muzik

12 күн бұрын

People without dark mode are legit psychopaths

@RecoveringDilatentte

11 күн бұрын

light mode clears "dark mode"

@zaine7715

7 күн бұрын

@@eight8muzik Dark mode is worse for your vision long term.

the umm at 20:23 with it being on the screen 1 second later is crazy. curtis iron 4 confirmed?

That tip for practicing CS under tower by placing an enemy dummy in your base in practice tool is super helpful

i saw this post yesterday and genuinely felt sad for them

the flashbang is real

curtis what are your thoughts on the infamous NEACE’s approach to coaching low elo?

@saloscontent

9 күн бұрын

approach? since when? he quit for long time ago

The second account works because of the tanked MMR of the main account. There are players who are completely new, dont even know what items are or do, just played 1 champ and rank and get directly to bronze-silver (I know several of those, including my 2nd account easy silver when I knew nothing about the game). It works. If you play long enough then you get to Iron where your gameplay really is. So the second account is a consolation for most new players.

I'm just into the video and I know the feeling. Years ago in season 6 I went on a 86 game lose streak. I literally could not win a game. I just got in a super negative feedback loop. Fortunately I broke out of it. But yea, losing a ton sucks.

He has played 13 games. With this small sample size, the rank doesnt mean a lot. Its more of a vague indicator

@jacksonferretti3159

12 күн бұрын

Its great you mention that... i play mostly norms... and when people look up my rank in game they flame me for being iron... i ignore it mostly, but im like i played 20 games lol... i enjoy league for the most part and tbh id rather play with a 5 stack or play in amateur leagues like when ESDL was around... it then feels more like a pick up basketball game then some ultra troll ego fiesta

@lennyauspacken

12 күн бұрын

@@jacksonferretti3159 people will find any reason to flame. mostly i play without chat at all. And when i have turned it on, i mute faster then my shadow

@krekk2751

11 күн бұрын

AND THATS WHERE THE VIDEO SHOULDVE ENDED LOL. this "coach curtis" is a goddamn fad and an embarassing clown. lol. The person needs to play his 500games and then he can ask why hes in iron. this video is garbage and advice is garbage.

You should put your browser on dark mode

the part about normals is very relatable, im a d1 jungler and play normals with friends pretty frequently, i will lose to bronze players off role, while drinking and having fun and will get genuinely egod by them in chat.

One with your analogy. There are no new players, hence dying in NA and EU (I mean for ranked play). Simple fix: If someone is afk for 15 minutes, it terminates the game. Always have +ev double or closer to double compared to -ev. At least Dimond always rewards playing. Now with Vanguard punish players who are sorting (easier said than done) or hard inting. (Yes, there are more things to do, but this is the best way to let new players get in and stick with ranked. All popular games do this like Fortnight, CS, etc.)

Players have gotten better in general too man. I've been platinum one season, back then I even met Ocelote in one of my ranked games, most other seasons I ended up in gold. This season I even touched Iron 1. What I realized is even in Iron 1 people aren't so bad, they know how to play their character and they cs really well. Could be I've gotten older, I'm 39 now, and lost my quick reflexes. So yea, I can really understand how people end up in Iron 4.

@Gloriankithsanus

8 күн бұрын

You don't need reflexes. As he says in the video, league is a game of anticipation - most of the time you know what's going to happen - the moment you get surprised, is the moment your personal game knowledge was lacking. People who are iron just really don't play enough with intention. Or not frequent enough to begin with. Which is totally fine.

@reosin2536

5 күн бұрын

@@Gloriankithsanusyou dont get it. At laning i can concentrate barely on cs and enemy movement simultaneously. Adding smth more like minimap/mana/level progress overflows the brain. More older i get less stuff my brain can process.

Regarding people thinking they are better than they are. The problem with a game like league is that it's very easy to recognize when your doing something good, but impossible seeing when youre doing something bad (except maybe deaths). There are a million things you can do that is bad but how would u know if u dont have a lot of experience playing the game?

@eight8muzik

12 күн бұрын

I think I'm worse than I am. 😂

I feel humiliated because I don’t actually know how brand q works or Kennem for that matter and I’ve been in emerald

@numbertj4730

9 күн бұрын

Lol I thought I was alone in not knowing this stuff and I was only gold 1. It's crazy how much there is to know, and so much of it is just so boring to learn from their wiki page.

@skeley6776

7 күн бұрын

Just get Gamepass for a month for 1€/$ and cancel after and connect it to ur Riot acc. Simply play every champ once in a norm and look up builds on UGG master+ euw.

lol I just got out of iron and I swear it wasn’t this hard to get out back in the day. It’s crazy, I’ve been having success but! There’s always that ticking time bomb when you’re in a game with people that are using champs they don’t know what they’re doing.

@Gloriankithsanus

8 күн бұрын

Guess it kind of depends what role and champ you're playing. I played toplane mordekaiser in Iron IV up to Bronze IV and I swear it was literally impossible to lose games at times. The amount of people who just don't know that morde is like next to unbeatable in a 1v1 on lv1 is astonishing. Even more amazing when they fight you again on a 2lvl lead right when they come back from base only to die again, making me start with a 650 gold lead and 2 level lead. You're very quickly so dramatically ahead that you can 1v4 their team at their inhib tower at min15 if necessary. You obviously can't do stuff like that on leona support.

title had me laughing my mf ass off

5:20 survivorship bias / confirmation bias

19:48 Annie wards and the immediately leans the opposite side of the lane from the ward 🤷‍♂️ I’d judge, but I’ve probably done the same 🥲

confirmation or survivor bias

midlane low elo micro guide pls

@Gloriankithsanus

8 күн бұрын

learn what the champions do, learn the different ranges between you and your opposing champion and then start baiting their abilities by stepping into their range and dodging preemptively. Nothing else matters until you can do that.

cant believe curtis made this whole video just to cope with the fact that a silver owned him in norms 😥

My First 700 games were bronze 5. I am NOT good at league. but I never gave up and peaked 3 LP away from diamond in season 9. considered that good enough and haven't really try-harded ranked since. which sucks cause deep in my heart im sad I never actually got diamond.

@Gloriankithsanus

8 күн бұрын

I've never even been plat. Pretty sure only playing like 30 games a season is the main reason for that. Usually I get placed in silver and play myself to gold. That's the standard I hold for myself xD

Somebody knows the tool he is using to draw?

@Typhlan

11 күн бұрын

It's called 'epic pen'

What do you do tho when your overall kda is 4-1 and every second game you will have 1-2 turbo feeding lanes going 0-12?

@saloscontent

9 күн бұрын

dont blame others. look at your pov and fix your issues.

@Marrtinike19

9 күн бұрын

@@saloscontent so my overall kda of 4-1 is not good enough? Got it, dam, its just all me huh

@0__Vector

9 күн бұрын

@@Marrtinike19 you're not translating your lead to a win so yes. Maybe youre overfocusing on kills or not dying. Also every second game has to be an exaggeration. either way that's such a hard blanket statement to even answer without seeing actual games to look at.

@Fyrelangs

6 күн бұрын

Vector is right. Kda alone is hard to make conclusions from, especially the more u focus on kills.

My guess is that he's not going to be interested in doing this work because he's just "casually playing," not realizing that means that he's an iron 4 ladder player.

before i even watch, 12 games is not ENOUGH play 100 then we can talk.. gl OP

I have just created a new account YT account and subscribed again. I am evil, stop laughing!

I feel that half of what u said contradicts what u said on the BBC podcast.. From what i understood if he is Iron, they shouldn't be that much emphasis even on the champ specific things - its just supposed to be 'your iron - stop playing ranked, and just have fun and play different champs and role, and next time u que up, it should be when u playing at least with bronze players consistently in norms, and ur queing is in bronze lobbys'.. Idk, thats what i understood from the BBC episode.. Just a confused Iron (4) player 🥴

btw he's not using smartcast, that'll make your life easier.

This video should have been called coulda woulda shoulda--

Honestly he doesnt have an Iron level from my perspective. I think he is slightly above the level of his rank, but this rank is so chaotic that the level gap is not high enough to make the difference

@user-sg2pc2pc3g

12 күн бұрын

he might have a bad mental even though he might have bronze skills or maybe low silver

@DannyJava

12 күн бұрын

This is false. He plays like I played when I was level 15-20 just starting to play the game in 2014 with no prior MOBA experience.

@user-sg2pc2pc3g

12 күн бұрын

@@DannyJava but his gameplay doesn't seem to be iron 4 gameplay or iron in general, maybe it's because they made it easier to hit iron...

@GodHandFemto

12 күн бұрын

@@user-sg2pc2pc3g It's easy to look better than you are when you're playing in as low of an elo as Iron where a lot of your mistakes go unpunished and you can look kinda okay despite doing nothing properly. Once they play against higher level enemies, like Bronze or low Silver, those kind of mistakes get punished harder and it becomes very obvious they belong in Iron.

@lestonclark2398

12 күн бұрын

he is iron im iron and wished i was facing someone like him in lane..lol hes confusing what league is years ago like i did i didnt know why im iron because before i quit 3 years ago and came back i was a gold player now im bouncing between iron and bronze guys in iron talking about prio splitting map freezing waves its surprising actually... the players are better now so much info now, they not freezing properly but the fact they attempting it when they know they have an advantage rather than just shoving it shows how player skill in the game as a whole improved

only 13 games played, no wonder they're are still in iron. you need hundreds of games to climb to silver from that point

I genuinely thought you had to be trolling to be in iron, much less iron 4. Are we sure this post isn't a troll or a meme? I think you might have taken the bait.

@omegaminoseer4539

11 күн бұрын

The main issue is that the account can be verified as Iron, as seen in the video. If the dude is trolling, then that's more of a mark of the other 9 people actually IN Iron with him. More than likely, he isn't and the post is 100% genuine. His mental is garbage. I was 50 games hardstuck in Iron before I thought I was an Iron player. Now I'm Upper Gold/Low Plat.

tbh with this guy, the ranked system is a lot better now with bots. I don’t find any in my games so players are all going lower because bots filled those iron spots mostly

Lesgooooo

Demoralized for loosing in a game, not impossible, but you gotta keep things in perspective, life is more than a game

I'm gonna be honest. I peaked gold 1, but at no point have I ever known what every champion in the game does. I don't think a lot of challenger players fully realize how massive the number of games required for that is. You just don't see some champions, like Azir, Ryze, and Gragas often enough. Plus memorizing the new champions' abilities before they got nerfed was pretty exhausting.

@emprahsfinest7092

2 күн бұрын

Yeah pretty much only people who play league for a living can know every champ.

even iron's buy smurf/boost to leave that shit rank....the game is dead AF

lol @ redditors giving advice on wave management and abusing ability cooldowns for this iron 4 player averaging 10 deaths and 4cspm

talon guide please!

@inksword6029

12 күн бұрын

dont play him mid play him jungle lol

@user-sg2pc2pc3g

12 күн бұрын

@@inksword6029 why? his wr mid is higher and I'm a midlaner I'm not just gonna switch to jg and learn the role

They all smurfing on iron , as a new player cant stand there. Do not play leuge!.

I can start a fresh account and get plat all day in like 50 games but my main decayed from plat to silver elo after 2 years of no play and it’s a nightmare on my main but fresh accounts are a joke

@inksword6029

12 күн бұрын

hand leveled or bought accounts?

@TheXxemarosaxx

12 күн бұрын

@@inksword6029 always level myself because I will normally spend a few bucks just to buy 1-2 champs I main

@notieming

12 күн бұрын

I would like to see you to play 500 games on your stuck silver account and then 500 games on a new account and see how the ranks match up. That’s how you really know if it’s the account, the system or just you.

@TheXxemarosaxx

12 күн бұрын

@@notieming no need I got my account back up to play with about 300 games. I used to stream my games D1 but I don’t play enough games for that anymore. I’m just saying it’s way harder to win games in lower elo people are that unaware of the game.

@inksword6029

12 күн бұрын

@@notieming who has the time to do that for a game that isnt even fun

I don't think that the confirmation bias thing is as true as some people think ngl. I feel like it has more to do with league being a team game where everything you do effects the team for better or for worse meaning that a lot can go wrong whether you play well or not. You just have to try and make eniugh good decisions to balance it out. Many times I've lost matches where one lane got fed and could 1v5 the rest of the team. In situations like that, you just gotta chalk it up to the game. Unfortunately that happens a lot in low elo and depending on the champs you play, you may not be able to make up for someone doing bad.

@joshuaharris2245

12 күн бұрын

It's probably MORE true than some people think. I promise you, for every "mistake" you see your teammate doing that drives you crazy wondering how they can be in the same elo as you, you're doing a similar level mistake 20+ times without noticing. But you'll either say "ah shit" and then move on and never think about it again, or think "i rarely do that, its ok", or just straight up not notice you did it. We as humans REALLY don't like admitting to this. I'm well aware of the phenomenon, and know its true. And yet I *still* get defensive about it. So just nature of the beast. It's a much bigger deal than you think.

I disagree with taking teleport over ignite, you said it's easier for lane but I see it the other way around, because teleport it's harder to use it well and understand how to use it, I see teleport has adding complexity since it requires a better fundamental understanding of wave states and reset timers. In my experience when I was gold I tried to recreate and copy other mid layers who would take teleport, but then failed to know how to use it well, on the other hand ignite I see it as the easiest spell to use. Let me know what you think

@krekk2751

11 күн бұрын

your disagreement is meaningless. it's wrong. don't ever give advice.

@jaketerpening3284

11 күн бұрын

Teleport lets you basically "cheat" a reset. If you don't have a good understanding of when to reset, you can instead just farm for an amount of gold, then use the teleport to get back to lane without losing many minions. Don't try to think of it as, "do I have to use teleport here?" Just think of it as a way to make an important purchase or refresh you resources safely.

@pilapila183

10 күн бұрын

Yeah I’m gonna trust the challenger’s advice over yours

There is no reality where this is legit. The guy is trolling.

There is also a chunk of smurfs in iron 4. I mean there's a meta of certain players putting their accounts there on purpose. And the system doesn't detect them; And why would it when Riot doesn't even play their own game to know of these issues. The point is; it's like playing any new account. You're going to run into players that are on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc account. You aren't actually playing at Iron 4 despite being Iron 4. The reality is the rank system in these games are extremely flawed, and in this game in particular. One season the system will favour duo queuing. Another season the champions you enjoy/play are sub-par (or the counters have been buffed), Or maybe the roles you play have less impact, etc, etc. Fact is that the ranked system isn't really an indication of skill (I mean it is and isn't), it's more of an indication that you follow the current flavour of Riots BS balance. Hell, if you want to increase your win rate, dodge every Red team game and play only Blue side. That automatically improves your rating (not by much, but a fraction of an increase can be enough to climb). And the fact the riot hasn't fixed that shows how they really give a shit about competitiveness, especially when champions are balanced for pro-play and not balanced for the 99.9% of players that actually make the company money. /rant

@geli95us

12 күн бұрын

This comment is a giant red flag, you're focusing on factors outside your control when it's perfectly possible to improve your situation using just the things you do have control over. Also, you're making a lot of faulty assumptions, riot doesn't balance champions around pro-play, they mostly balance them around the elo at which they are strongest, they don't want simple champions to run rampant in low elo just so those champions can have a 50% winrate at challenger, and vice-versa. Role impact doesn't matter for climb, it makes it faster, sure, but it doesn't affect the maximum rank you can achieve, the reason is that in your games, every role is matched except your own, for example, if 90% of games were won based on who has the best toplaner, you'd auto-win 45% percent of games and auto-lose 45% of games, so they balance out, in the end, the only thing that matters is your performance compared to your counterpart. Any tricks that improve your rank won't take you very far at all, say that dodging some games gets you from 50% to 51% winrate, what happens? you go up a division, the games become harder and that 51% becomes 50% again, almost no change at all, other than wasting time dodging games. The difference is meta is more of the same thing, playing a 52% champion can maybe net you a few divisions, but having to learn a new champion each time the meta changes means you're better off developing mastery with one champion even if they are not the strongest, there are a lot of challenger players who otp sub-optimal picks, so it's obviously possible.

@Zombiesbum

12 күн бұрын

@@geli95us I don't think you understand my main point of view: Anyone who doesn't see ranked for what it is; A fucking joke, are in fact not very bright. Nobody cares about your rank. It's not an achievement. It's a waste of time. And even more of a waste of time when it's not designed properly. That being said. I will refute your argument that riot balances around all elos. Champions that are problem champions in the competitive scene are usually gutted into the ground until Riot decides to rework them. But that's rarely done for champions that are a problem in lower ranks and are non-competitive champions in proplay. It's happened time and time again. I mean look at Sivir and a lesser extent Janna. Both very strong with a team and coordination. But they are on the weaker side for solo Q carrying. What part of that is "balancing for other elos"? Janna has been so nerfed over the years that she does literally no damage anymore, meanwhile Riots lovechild Karma can and does annihilate lanes. You're also missing the point about role imbalance. If jungler and support have the most impact in the game, then logically you should play those roles to carry and win the game. You're kidding yourself if you really think all roles are equal, and "they don't matter". Games are won based on impact on the lobby, not based on whether you win or lose your island game, please don't get that mixed up. You could be playing a champion all the time that does extremely well in lane, but doesn't scale or team fight effectively. Warwick top is an example of this. He's generally a champion to side-line team fights or push (ironically his passive is yet to be fixed to actually work against towers, meanwhile Vayne top gets love and attention (while warwick has more bugs in his kit than vayne has skills)). And your argument of learning new champions isn't really a valid argument. If you don't know the champions of the meta, then you're not really equipped to beat them in lane (as you seem to imply just beating them wins you more games). I will grant you that JUST winning your lane (and doing nothing else with it) at lower elo brackets is probably enough to climb. But then again, if you're in iron I'm pretty sure you can just turn up to lane and that increases your odds of winning. But that's more to do with enemy players quitting rather than you having an impact on the actual game. You didn't make that player quit. Just as you can't make others tilt, only nudge them in hopes they do. But then, is that really being better at the game? Or just being good at annoying other players? At that point you're not really playing league. You're playing the ladder. The take away from all of this is that Riot doesn't understand their own game. They keep releasing new content before fixing bugs of champions that are years old. So to sit there are pretend like their ranked system isn't broken/unbalanced is peek ignorance. That's the biggest red flag here.

@soul0172

12 күн бұрын

​@@Zombiesbumleague of legends has by far the most accurate ranked system in such an obvious way. Every little delusional thing you type is an attempt to save your ego man

@Zombiesbum

11 күн бұрын

@@soul0172 Okay, how is it then? You want to be passive aggressive, but bring no evidence or argument when you make a sweeping statement. Maybe check your own ego at the door there buddy.

@cccbbbaaa110

10 күн бұрын

Wrong, smurfs put in queue with other smurfs. They also start in silver mmr. Real iron players will never see them

Making it a but complicated. Just give them 200 games in a month and talk about it after that

Make a new account and refresh the mmr. I find it hard to believe someone is that bad for that long. You get into low iron and it’s all content smurfs and account leveling companies wrecking games.

8% winrate just can't be real just think about it that would mean u win 8 games out of a 100 like who in the right mind believes that? aren't there even people that showed how hard it is to even get to iron 4? even if they trolled and inted the game away it's super difficult and you want to tell me u have a 8% winrate in iron 4 even tho u actually try to win? but I want to say its ok to be iron 4

22:20 Sorry if this sounds mean but. . . If you get into a fight for your life and FORGET to use summoner spells, there is something seriously wrong with the way you are thinking in this game. They have cool downs that are 3-5 times longer than your R ability! This means they are 3-5 times MORE IMPORTANT lol. If you wouldn't forget to use your R in a fight, you surely shouldn't be forgetting to use summoner spells. . . I do know people in Iron 4 that main Kayle and constantly forget to use their R to save people or themselves. I suggest getting more familiar with the key binds and spending a LOT of time in bot matches to get comfortable piloting the characters. Good luck!

@geli95us

12 күн бұрын

Looks like a mental stack problem to me, they are so overwhelmed that they forget to do some things, I'd argue that it's only a symptom and not a root cause, once they get comfortable piloting their character, know what all champions do, etc. their mental stack will be much more freed up and they'll stop forgetting to use abilities

A WEED EDIBLE XD

ngl the whole thing looks like fake and content farming this guy knows what he is doing creating a post uploading a video and it gets 26k clicks cause people wonder how tf u get iron 4 and then 1 day later he posts another video seems kinda weird to me

@haiimcookie

8 күн бұрын

I genuinely couldn't care about the views from a single video. I was just trying to ask for help, excepting a few redditors to respond, and my post randomly blowing up. Sorry that I made a reddit post asking for help bc I was genuinely demoralized from losing like every single one of my ranked games except for 1 lmao . I've gotten a lot of help thankfully though and I feel like I'm on the right path now ❤️

IQ diff

Definite a bait post. He could afk and do nothing and still achieve 50% wr in iron 4

For you to be hardstuck iron 4 with 8% wr for years you should have a hard mental or physical disability

@shironeko2781

12 күн бұрын

Even my 7 yo nephew is silver 2

@slapwalker

12 күн бұрын

He's not hardstuck, he only played 13 games lmao

I disagree with the soloq not being an on and off game. However, the point I disagree to is the timeframe. playing once every week or every other week is actually good for consistency. It allows you to experience the world and retain the information you gained much better, than straight out spamming league games every day. At one point, you will enter information overload and then confirmation bias, selective bias and all the other issues that stop you from retaining information, both good and bad, is going to get hampered. Soloq, is a lot more on and off than we would like to think.

Just stop playing this game, I have never hit gold playing League over years; literally any other game with ranked ladders I hit gold/platinum equivalents easily; League is rigged.

real i have literally played normals on a heroic shroom dose

@wrlck4841

11 күн бұрын

I played plat diamond jungle on LSD for 24 hours

In iron you are not learning league, you are learning how to play a real time video game on a computer. Theres no shame in that. Ppl should manage their expectations and not get defensive over whatever they think is their "skill". Also casual gamers need to get told that League is not a game where time necessarily correlates to any progress. The gameplay loop is literally 30 mins - its closer to irl "pvp" sports than to campaign shooters, mmorpgs or round based strategy

I disagree. I've play it on and off (often with months long breaks), and i get to low gold pretty easily everytime. Been to platinum once. i would also have been ok in high silver. So you can absolutely play it casually. When i do play I have fun, so i wouldn't consider it time waste at all.

@GubbiGap

12 күн бұрын

I think it depends on how long you've played overall and how long the breaks are as well. Like 2 years of on and off play isn't that long time and I don't think we don't know how long the breaks were for this person.

@byleexs1991

12 күн бұрын

Humble bragging

@theunwanted37

12 күн бұрын

I agree with you that you can be a casual player and not be in iron 4. But I think Coach Curtis was more saying you can't play League casually and also complain about your rank. It's like only going to the gym for a couple weeks in January each year and complaining about not being able to bench 100 pounds. Yes, some people might have that as their natural strength baseline and can do it but that ties into what Coach was saying about the gaming background. If you were complaining about being in low gold when you think you're an emerald player Coach would probably say the same thing to you as he's saying to Alexis.

@ntap8668

12 күн бұрын

All people are diffrent, maybe you are just better at mmo games and can play it on and off for fun

@BouncingTribbles

12 күн бұрын

The key was "improving", this person was feeling self conscious about playing casually and not improving.

league is older than 98% of these clowns who play it.

6th

Coach Curtis ✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅

learning every champ is why this game is not for casual players. it's really a 9-5 job to play in competitive.

@SaSo-mk6yh

12 күн бұрын

I found it fun in my younger days so it did not take that long but I understand the notion.

Mathematically, if smurfs are common enough then it's possible to be stuck because there are 4 vs 5 randoms which means the chance of a smurf on the opposing team is higher. I don't think this is actually the case in league but "you can always climb" is not necessarily always true.

@Josher2-n1w

12 күн бұрын

Iron smurfs are uncommon and are typically some of the more expensive smurfs to get. This largely shouldn't prevent climbing

@vroomzoom4206

12 күн бұрын

Smurfs aren't that common

@adamschmidt4671

12 күн бұрын

you're assuming that the ranking system doesn't work. For an individual game, absolutely the chance of there being a smurf on the enemy team is higher, however smurf accounts very quickly get moved to align with the skill of the player, therefore we can assume that for an average game all 10 players in the game have a true skill level in line with their rank.

@zabrac1566

12 күн бұрын

Despite the stigma regarding smurfs, League of Legends has an incredibly aggressive matchmaking system and very very quickly places smurfs in higher mmr games despite their account rank being lower. When playing through bronze and silver the amount of noticeable smurfs was astonishing low and the ones that felt like they were smurfs played more like they were low plat or mid gold, often throwing their leads and losing games despite being ahead. For me personally, it's only in plat games where I've started encountering the truly disgusting smurfs that are very clearly smurfing. I assume it's because of the very aggressive matchmaking where a smurf who plays in anything below platinum will be placed in plat mmr incredibly quickly before again being boosted up if they continue to stomp. Naturally this is all anecdotal and just my own experience.

i have to rant somehwere lmfao, idk why midlane feels so miserable recently, its like its toplane 2.0, its only the gross kind of mages or adcs being picked, just counterpick for days or afk brain farming lanes, it feels like playing a melee ad that isnt yone is a waste of time unless you have the ideal draft, wonder if i should just change my champion pool to champs i dont like playing at all just to be able to compete

Bro pick a new game lol

Do you think it's worth doing an in-depth 30 minute review when this is someone that barely plays the game and is quite literally crying over nothing? Even the post title, "I have 8% winrate" when he had like 10 games played total is insane. It's like if someone was completely new to piano and was complaining they can't play the Moonlight Sonata after 2 days of practice. Yeah no shit you can't. The only actionable advice you can give imo is "you're being delusional, just play the game" but I'm curious what you think.

@ricardorodriguez8497

12 күн бұрын

Well. Half of all players are silver or below. I am gonna guess, then, that this contains info relevant to more players than anything more complex considering silver mid layers still can't execute basic concepts correctly...that's why they're silver!

@geli95us

12 күн бұрын

This video serves several purposes, it's not just for that player, anyone who is silver or below can take useful information from this. Plus, it serves as advertisement for curtis' coaching service, "here's what you can expect if you join the mla"

Bro has the dumbest takes out of nowhere all the time. You’re playing league of legends, the game where literally everyone uses multiple accounts for multiple purposes and literally no one that has played the game for a long time runs ranked on the original account they created, but it’s suspect that they play on more than one account? 💀

The truth is that this account is simply too fucked to play on, even if this player improved by a lot and got to 52% WR the MMR is too fucked and the players hes playing with will literally be all trolls / smurfs / griefing players. He is kinda forced to make a new account imo.

@johnkirk1772

12 күн бұрын

I have that issue...been playing league for 7 years with a 4 year break in-between and was bronze every season I played with recent demotion to iron...I dropped hard into iron 3 within a week from demoting to iron 1 and its taken months to climb back to bronze 4 with the amount of trolls & smurfs down there - my mmr is legit fucked, I lose more lp than I gain in bronze 4 but at least there aren't that many smurfs in bronze games compared to iron 3

@dannyyous

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I played casually forever but always stuck silver to gold. On a whim decided to make a new account made it to diamond in less than a week…

@Noctis-lg7xp

12 күн бұрын

Got the pattern of falling into bronze 4 and then climbing into silver with 70-80% win rate just to stabilise around silver 4-3 with coinflip match making. It really comes down to perspective since some players 'see' things that others do not to help them climb ig... Ik it's a me problem too but this sucks iwl.

@jacksonmagas9698

2 күн бұрын

20 games played "gg accounts too fucked go next"

@ZadenWoW

Күн бұрын

@@jacksonmagas9698 bro it's iron 4 .... 0 games played its still fucked. Nobody in iron is interested in playing a real game let alone getting 10 real humans in the game 🤣

People should also realise that they shouldnt even attempt ranked until like 2 years of playing solidly. Not even faker went straight to ranked.

This particular line is pretty entertaining. "The rank system doesn't lie." Well, it sure doesn't, but it sure can and will f you up quite a bit in the matchmaking.

@nynthes

12 күн бұрын

equally likely to fuck up the enemy too. You are the only common factor

@lobobanguela6349

12 күн бұрын

@nynthes Yeah, and this common factor is always the top damage on every game. Yet, most times, the enemy team has more players that do similar damage while I'm generally stuck with an adc that does 9k damage on a 33 minutes game. But hey, you're right. The matchmaking system on league of legends is pure perfection.

@nynthes

12 күн бұрын

@@lobobanguela6349 Same as i said previously, its equally likely to happen to the enemy. You are the only common factor.

@lobobanguela6349

12 күн бұрын

@@nynthes Like I said previously, that's your take on believing the matchmaking system.

@nynthes

12 күн бұрын

@@lobobanguela6349 What exactly do you not believe about it? Do you think they're targetting you specifically?

At that point... is League of Legends your game. Listen I had friends who played smash bros constantly. They spend hours in training mode wavelanding and practicing cancels and shorthop neutral air ffs and stuff, every day for years. And they are still so bad. But some of those same people were B+ on ICCUP for Brood War. Fighting games are just not their thing. But you CANNOT watch videos to become good at league. I think watching them as a new player is actually detrimental. You need to naturally learn the phases of the game. Also, play support or toplane first.

Contrary to popular belief, Iron players are not actually terrible at the game. it's just that everyone else is a lot better.

@ryanharris7891

7 күн бұрын

I'm a new player myself, I once went on a massive loss streak and dropped to Iron 2 (I was trying to learn new champion like an idiot) I swapped to my main champion and won something like 11 games straight got back to Bronze 4 before losing that win streak in the first game back in bronze haha.

@skeley6776

7 күн бұрын

I think u misspelled Emerald lol

That guy should uninstall LoL or try chair and rope build IRL xD

dude u need to not use big words and shit when explaining this, theyre obviosuly new to the game just literally give them the bare basics the way u speak about stuff is way too complicated like just be simple and dumb it down for them this video wont be useful for them

The only question in an iron game is: who has the better smurf in his team. I play support, maybe the weakest role in low elo, and my main account is hardstuck iron. A friend told me to make a second account, which i generally dont like, and now im in gold with positive wr and feel like i still can climb. I play other competive games (shooters, rocket league) and i have NEVER seen a game that has a more random ranked mode than LoL. I don't know why the players in low elo games have such an extreme variety of skills. Maybe it's Lol's unmatched 'culture' of extreme toxicity and afk'ing that makes at least one player per game go mentally boom but the fact that i went from iron to gold just by creating a new account shows how random Lol is. And now a diamond player can unwillingly prove my point by telling me that he can climb out of iron playing a carry champ. Congrats, you are a smurf and part of the low elo randomness.

@Spamua13

12 күн бұрын

I super doubt this. Support is probably equally strong at any rank. You probably have to change your playstyle slightly at super low ranks but I am really really skeptical that you couldn't carry games out of iron on sup. Maybe you belong in iron on support and like curtis says you should come to terms with reality. As an adc main in emerald I have 100% confidence that I could easily carry out of iron on the support role regardless of smurfing or role agency so again I think you're masking your skill by blaming it on smurfs. Many players still rank up and win despite smurfs including myself so what is your excuse? What I typically see in low elo is players getting massive leads because low elo players don't know their limits and then becoming unkillable raid bosses going 24/2. Then people say hes a smurf hes a smurf. But that same smurf will queue into the next game and go 3/16 because they only know how to win when they get a huge lead there is no off button. I would be suuuuper skeptical of any low elo saying someone is a smurf because how can someone with an inferior understanding of the game tell what higher level gameplay looks like? Again I see a lot of low elo mistake massive leads for a gap in skill because they don't understand how much value levels and gold have. League is really not random like you think it is it's actually very structured because people have mostly figured out optimal gameplay. This is how I know you probably have not experienced higher elo gameplay. As soon as I climbed out of gold to plat to emerald all on the same account btw, I felt a massive shift in game flow. Players strangely become more predictable because the good/bad choices are obvious and necessary to win. Lower ranks people just position terribly with disregard to macro or objs and will take ANY fight so it feels random, but it's not. It's okay to not understand the game, but the whole point of this channel is being critical of your own gameplay and not shifting blame to factors outside of your control.

@DanarkKing

12 күн бұрын

same. main is hard stuck in iron and on a new account i instantly went to gold. smurfs make it impossible to gauge skill level vs rank

@DeathBean89

12 күн бұрын

Play a couple hundred games on both the hardstuck iron account and the new gold account. If you're trying equally hard every game on both accounts, you'll find that they both gravitate towards the same rank over enough games played.

@zabrac1566

12 күн бұрын

Echoing what others are saying in replies. Play more games, like many more games and the accounts will meet each other if you're playing the same on both. In lower ratings games are incredibly throwy so it often requires you to play differently and learn to adapt so you can take advantage of it. Example, if you're an enchanter player you would expect your role is to protect and buff your bot laner (or whoever is doing well), so after you have established a lead for them, it falls onto them to not throw it. Smurfs or not, you are placing your gold, effort and time in the hands of an player. Do you trust them? Alternatively you can play an engage support or a carry support or even just play anything your comfortable on so that when the leads come, the responsibility to not throw is on you. Simply not throwing and capitalising when you can will allow you to climb through Bronze -> Gold. In league there are 9 other strangers in your lobby who you have no idea how they play, how good they truly are or even if they are going to perform that game. The only person you can rely on to focus, is yourself. You have to be the one to take control of the game especially in lower ratings where every single player will attempt to throw their leads 10 different ways every couple of minutes.

@momoaa

12 күн бұрын

Playing 20ish games on a fresh acc isnt indicative of anything, especially not riots broken matchmaking system. keep playing, you will probably go negative wr and drop, otherwise if your skill level is actually gold, keep playing your main, you will climb. Not a lot of people smurf in iron, its legitimately hard to play that below your rank (diamond to iron for example) and not win 60-70% of your games and be out of iron in like 20 games tops. An actual smurf will drop 20 kills, 1v5, and again have a 70% winrate and be out of iron very fast. What you are more likely experiencing is iron players not knowing how to play from behind and dying 20 times to another iron player and getting 1v5ed, but like a previous commentor said, the next game they wont drop those 20 kills. If you were consistantly getting smurfed on and abused, those accounts will very quickly naturally climb out of iron, and suddenly there wont be smurfs anymore. Gold-emerald is where id expect to start seeing more smurfs, because the average game understanding at those ranks is high enough that there is actually (some) value in a higher elo player being in the game. Your victimization and quickness to externalize blame makes me think you are lower rather than higher on your iron-gold potentia, btw

its actually amazing that this guy can actually read and write holy fuck

@leeyoungho9717

12 күн бұрын

This is the type of sentiment is one of the reasons its so hard to get out of iron when its already difficult enough and people add unnecessary stigma for no reason. Climbing is hard no matter what rank you are. Not everyone has a gaming background etc.

@aviebadgal

12 күн бұрын

Ur mom go sky

@blz6895

9 күн бұрын

@@leeyoungho9717 lmaoooooo bro if you cant get out of fucking IRON just give up, you have bigger problems

4:00 there is an ancient go/baduk/weiqi proverb for new players that applies here. It is "lose your first 100 games as quickly as possible". Basically, some things can only be learned by just getting in the reps and doing it. Yes, you will lose a lot of those games, but you need a bunch of repetition before you can even begin to understand any of those videos.

if ur bottom of iron I refuse to believe u know how to put on ur pants. Unless ur somehow lvl 50 BRAND new playing ranked. By the time u hit lvl 50 u should atleast be bronze level player.

@slapwalker

12 күн бұрын

Imagine playing the game for years and not hitting at least diamond. You have to be mentally challenged or something